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futurehermit Aug 24, 2007, 05:15 PM When you win in BtS, what is the average year you are currently winning?
Please include your skill level and settings when posting.
Also any comments about whether you feel this timing is faster or slower or the same as warlords would be great.
Also victory condition.
I'll kick it off:
-So far I've mostly been going for space wins or modern era domination. I play monarch/standard/normal/hemispheres. I've been consistently winning ca. 1925AD +/- 25yrs. This is about 50+/- yrs longer than I used to consistently win in warlords.
Sorry, I don't know how to convert years into turns. If anyone could provide me with this info we could do it in turns instead.
Cookie Crumbs Aug 24, 2007, 06:41 PM Well I've played three games to completion so far:
William of Oranje of Netherlands, Prince/Big+Small/Epic/Huge, Space Race 1914. I could have won a little earlier but I wanted to mess around with all the new features and didn't bother to time my spaceship builds properly.
Darius I of Persia, Prince/Big+Small/Huge/Epic, Domination, 1950-ish.
Pacal of Maya, Prince/Big+Small/Epic/Standard, Space Race in 1850.
Domination is a LOT slower to me, for several reasons. First, Anti-Tank units slow down conquest of cities. Second, the revolt times seem to be longer but then again I was conquering some pretty big cities. Third, your economy takes a nosedive if you have to conquer intercontinental territory, which meant I could only run 30/40% culture, which slowed down border expansion.
Space Race is more tedious now since I lose tech parity a lot earlier, so I have to research so much more by myself. This happens around Engineering/Guilds in BtS, while in Warlords I could trade for odd techs up to Physics or so. Cristo Redentor speeds things up a little, since you can switch to Universal Suffrage/Caste System/Bureaucracy instantly for production boosts after I've finished researching all the techs. The improved Golden Ages+Mausolleum of Mausollos give you an extra boost and pump out enough great people for a second Golden Age near the end. In spite of all this it feels longer, but that my just be because of the new turn measurement.
futurehermit Aug 24, 2007, 07:51 PM Update: Just got a 1840s diplo win with Darius. Was on pace probably for an early 1900s space win. Diplo win could've been ca. 1800, maybe earlier, but Issy wouldn't vote for me at pleased and I was missing about 40 votes :( I was conquering Charlamagne to try to vote myself in, but couldn't complete it because if I took him down enough to give me votes he would lose his place as my rival and everyone loved Freddy--the next contender--so I had to leave Charly his land. Sucked :( But I was happy with the win.
Quagga Aug 24, 2007, 08:07 PM Space Race is more tedious now since I lose tech parity a lot earlier, so I have to research so much more by myself.
I've found the Internet to be helpful. It can be built earlier than before and there are more techs after, so it's more valuable than in Vanilla/Warlords. I build it and work on the more unpopular spaceship techs. The AIs work on other techs and whenever two research the same one, I get it too. Speeds things up a bit, plus I get Advanced Flight and other things I wouldn't research.
bonafide11 Aug 24, 2007, 08:23 PM I've been winning on Large or Huge maps, Epic speed, Monarch difficulty, Big and Small maps, around 1950 or so. It's been coming down though, since my first victory was after 2000. Each game was a domination except for one space race victory.
Carnage04 Aug 24, 2007, 10:55 PM I've been playing on Normal Sized maps, Normal Speed, Pangea or Continents. My Wins seem to come between 1925-1975 (The earlier are mostly space Race...the later Domination) on Prince or Monarch.
I've won 2 Emperor Space Races one Pangea (Pericles) and one Continents (Dutch) (Same settings) in 2003 and 2008. My first Emperor game ever, playing with Huyana, I won a domination in 1948.
Fookison Aug 25, 2007, 12:04 AM I'm the same as Carnage.....Seems like early 1900's to get a victory. I once had a good game end at 1876....
Monkeyfinger Aug 25, 2007, 03:01 AM Just got an AP win with Willem in the 1750s. Monarch, epic, standard size, hemispheres.
Built the AP with christianity, spread it to all my cities, all the ones of my closest neighbor Mansa Musa, and all the ones on the other continent (Julius and Frederick) as soon as I beat everyone to Optics (my continent hogged all 7 religion techs, Mansa Musa and I split 'em 4-3) There was one guy on my continent, Hammurabi, who didn't get Christianity until ~1730 when he plopped a new city and christianity randomly spread to it. Real grinch, wouldn't open his borders to any of us, our missionaries couldn't do anything so we had to wait for that. Anyway, a world leader vote came up, I didn't win. I switched from FR back to OR + Christianity, buttered everyone up with free techs, and got the votes 10 turns later.
hvevo Aug 25, 2007, 03:09 AM Space race in the late 1800s
Cultural in the late 1900s
Domination by the 1850s
Diplomatic with Apostolic Palace during 1200-1400AD (the trick is to bee-line to Optics for Caravels)
Diplomatic with UN in 1800s
Conquest by the late 1800s
I play random leaders on Prince or Monarch (mostly the latter), Epic speed, standard sized Fractal/Hemispheres/Big+Small maps. I will probably move up to Emperor in a few days.
Arlborn Aug 25, 2007, 03:15 AM 1900s cultural. I prefer it.
I never won Space Race in CIV4.
The rare times I rush early, it is around 1500AD I guess.
Kevin J Aug 25, 2007, 04:14 AM Winning? People win this game?
Arlborn Aug 25, 2007, 04:19 AM Winning? People win this game?
An? :lol:
Nah we are just showing off :crazyeye:
xifeng Aug 25, 2007, 01:15 PM I finish 3 games in BTS, in Noble, Prince and Emperor respecitvely.
Using China (I like Qingshihuang more but the computer keeps giving me Maozedong) on Standard map /Pangea /Marathon. Consistently won by domination between 1260-1360AD.
As usual, after Alphabet, go for Metal casting and Machinery (1 great engineer will finish 98% of the research for Machinery). When all other siege machines are nerfed, Cho-ko-nu is quite effective and can last a long time.
In one game, I have a elite CKN that carries 192 experience points.
Cookie Crumbs Aug 25, 2007, 03:24 PM If you calculate the equivalent year in Warlords/Vanilla, which I did by taking (turns to victory/750)*660, that 1843 victory equates to 1692 victory in Vanilla years. If you just take the number of turns and convert that to years (not as a fraction of the total number of turns), then it becomes 1796.
Years per turn in Vanilla/Warlords: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=161172
MrCynical Aug 25, 2007, 03:32 PM I'm playing mostly at Immortal level at the moment. Mostly large hemispheres maps, and the occasional big/small map, marathon speed. I'm mostly winning either space race or domination, between about 1900 and 1950. Earliest win I've had in BtS so far was an early domination in 1602AD, in one of my first games (that one was at Emperor, not immortal level).
Grimz101 Aug 25, 2007, 09:26 PM played 4 games on prince, 3 of them all won in 1890s, one diplomatic i had 50% of the population :), and two domination.. its spooky that they all been won in the 1890s, its really because i get lazy at the end and well in my lazy game i had tanks fighting longbowmen and musketmen, the most advance Non vassal AI had just got Riflemen as i won the game from diplo..
johnny_rico Aug 27, 2007, 08:33 AM monarch/standard/normal/hemispheres
got an early 1800's diplomatic win (with the U.N., not the A.P. - Darius)
space wins have been in the early 20th century - 1925 +/- 25 years (Zara Yaqob, Pericles).
2 domination wins both in the 1970's - disco mechanized infantry ftw (Boudica, Sitting Bull).
No cultural, conquest, or AP victories yet.
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