I'm just wondering do you guys restart/regenerate the map if there's no copper/iron available to you ? I just played this terra game, Noble ... the nearest source of iron available to me was all the way down south, where there was ice.

Kinda pissed at the map -_-

I could only produce nothing but pathetic horse archers while my neighbours had access to iron and were almost at knights ... no ivory for me too :mad:

What do you guys in situations like these? Declare war early and rush before they can take advantage of copper/iron units?

Well you have horses... I would have just used chariots and HA's for defense during REX and tech to gunpowder, build trebuchets and musketmen and see how it goes from there. Also, why not try to trade for iron/copper (copper is all you need for macemen) from a friendly civ?

You could also rush to Astronomy and try to be the first to colonize.

I'm just wondering do you guys restart/regenerate the map if there's no copper/iron available to you ? I just played this terra game, Noble ... the nearest source of iron available to me was all the way down south, where there was ice.

Kinda pissed at the map -_-

I could only produce nothing but pathetic horse archers while my neighbours had access to iron and were almost at knights ... no ivory for me too :mad:

What do you guys in situations like these? Declare war early and rush before they can take advantage of copper/iron units?

What's that line from US Marshals again?

"Get yourself a Glock and lose that nickel-plated sissy pistol."

The BC version is something like "Trade for iron and lose those sissy horses (unless you are Persia)."

well, as luck would have it, no one wanted to trade iron ... due to most of them having Judaism as their state religion and mine being Confucianism...

I dont think i could hold out till i had musketman ... my neighbours were demanding techs from me and i had to keep giving in -_-;; Only upside about that game was that I was culturally dominant... but damn im pissed about not having copper/iron :mad:

Copper/Iron isn't usually a deal breaker for me. Oil or aluminum can be, though. I've had to engage in way too many "War(s) for Oil" and I hate it. Yet somehow, the computer always seems to know where those resources are even if they don't have the tech to see it...hmmm....

Well those of us who are "purists" dont peak at the map via world builder or anything else. So how about you stop cheating and play the game the right way?

Well those of us who are "purists" dont peak at the map via world builder or anything else. So how about you stop cheating and play the game the right way?


Who exactly is that supposed to be aimed at? :rolleyes:
No one said they looked at the map first, you can play the game and find out that you don't have iron/copper etc.

An apology might be in order.

Well the computer also gives you hints as to where future resources might be. I believe the 'Suggested spots' for settlers to pop cities factors in resources you can't see.

I'm just wondering do you guys restart/regenerate the map if there's no copper/iron available to you ? I just played this terra game, Noble ... the nearest source of iron available to me was all the way down south, where there was ice.

Kinda pissed at the map -_-

I could only produce nothing but pathetic horse archers while my neighbours had access to iron and were almost at knights ... no ivory for me too :mad:

What do you guys in situations like these? Declare war early and rush before they can take advantage of copper/iron units?

Build a whole crap lots of mines (and make sure you are working them) and hope that either IRON/copper pops up!

Copper/Iron isn't usually a deal breaker for me. Oil or aluminum can be, though. I've had to engage in way too many "War(s) for Oil" and I hate it. Yet somehow, the computer always seems to know where those resources are even if they don't have the tech to see it...hmmm....

Yeah, two games in a row, Iv'e had no oil. First game I beelined to plastics and founded standard ethanol. Then in this game, i managed to snag an offshor oil source, and beelined to plastics again and got a platform up...

And as for the computer knowing were reasources are. Ive noticed that too. Ill randomly see a foreign fort in a random desert tile, then later, oh, wadda ya know? oil!

No copper/iron sucks, but can be dealt with. You can conquer a lot of territory with archers/catas/harchers. Catas to take down defenses and soften up defenders, including spears, harchers to take the city (improved in BtS), and archers for stack/city defense. The key here is to strike before longbows. You only really need to take out one opponent prior to renaissance/industrial anyways. You just need to make sure you have 15+/- cities by that point. Then the key is to look for oil and go for tanks. With that amount of cities, I'd be surprised if you don't have oil. But if you don't, you should be able to take out another opponent with gunpowder troops. Alternatively, with 15+/- cities it is possible to win without further war.

well, as luck would have it, no one wanted to trade iron ... due to most of them having Judaism as their state religion and mine being Confucianism...

Why did you go for a late religion instead of converting to judaism? If you are lacking strategic resources you should be more diplomatic and try to make good friends with your neighbours and trading partners.

Horse Archeries and City Revolt kicks butt.

Easy. Catapult spam!!!!!! :D :D :D :rotfl: i always wanted to say that! :lol:

I'd probably regenerate it but I would have regenerated it before I got too far into it.

You can only regenerate on the first turn.

I like a quick chariot rush almost as much as I like an axeman rush. You don't need too many more chariots, and you get the job done faster.

But this is only effective for so long. But if Monty or Shaka is at your doorstep, and you have no copper or iron, best to just chariot rush and get them out of your hair.

Helps to have some diplomatic tools to use in the early phases if there are no key resources. I try to get lots of friends around me so I don't have to go to war until I am able to trade for what I need.