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Harbringer
Aug 25, 2007, 02:05 AM
I just bought it today and although Im not very far I must say Im quite impressed, my immediate impression was that its the best looking game Ive ever seen by far. The water looks almost real and the effects are spot on. Its got some great mechanics going for it and Im only a little ways in but the telekenises is very usefull and works nicely, and the Big Daddies are a freekin blast to fight. Thus far, I think out of twenty reviews it averages a 98%, I dont think its in the greatest games of all time list, but I do thnk that its definately a very good and hi qualoty game, waht do you guys think of it?

Maniacal
Aug 25, 2007, 02:07 AM
I am eagerly awaiting more player reviews, it sounds like a blast and it's on my consideration list.

Kan' Sharuminar
Aug 25, 2007, 06:12 AM
I've only played the demo, but I love the atmosphere and setting. The opening was stunning, and seeing the Big Daddy for the first time was particularly brutal.

I'm probably not going to get this game for a long while, but I'll definitely enjoy it.

steviejay
Aug 25, 2007, 06:22 AM
I'd buy it but I'm skint. So I'm going to buy it when I get paid on Friday.

Played the demo last week. me and two mates, sitting in my room, playing a demo going 'oooh, aaaah, oooh pretty'.

Can't wait.

Harbringer
Aug 25, 2007, 03:11 PM
After playing through some more I have to say its not quite as good as the reviews would have you beleive, they all make this game out to be some kind of revolutionary stomp or something but its only slightly innovative, the powers are cool but plenty of games have those, the weopons are nothing to special and the upgrades are just an RPG element tacked on, the graphics and setting are astounding, the game is very easy on the eyes, and its a very hi quality game but its just lacking something extraordinary rite now. Dont get me wrong, this game thus far is definately a nine out of ten, but its just not making me go nuts like the reviews say it should, o well.

Maniacal
Aug 25, 2007, 03:23 PM
Well the demo worked fine for me, unitl the end of the laoding screen that coems after your biosphere docks, where it crashed to desktop and everyone was stuck in 800x600 resolution and 4bit graphics. When I installed it it did ask me to upgrade my drivers to the latest nvidia ones, which I did.

EDIT: Rumour has it the copyprotection installs a rootkit. BUT IT'S LIKELY THIS RUMOUR IS FALSE.

http://games.slashdot.org/games/07/08/24/213256.shtml

EDIT: It crashed at the same place but did not change display settings.

Shylock
Aug 26, 2007, 02:24 PM
Well the demo worked fine for me, unitl the end of the laoding screen that coems after your biosphere docks, where it crashed to desktop and everyone was stuck in 800x600 resolution and 4bit graphics. When I installed it it did ask me to upgrade my drivers to the latest nvidia ones, which I did.

EDIT: Rumour has it the copyprotection installs a rootkit. BUT IT'S LIKELY THIS RUMOUR IS FALSE.

http://games.slashdot.org/games/07/08/24/213256.shtml

EDIT: It crashed at the same place but did not change display settings.


Do you have Nvidia card?

Maniacal
Aug 26, 2007, 03:35 PM
Yes, Nvidia Geforce 7900GT

sirtommygunn
Aug 26, 2007, 10:20 PM
shamus on shamusyoung.com/twentysided has a rant about this very game.

Harbringer
Aug 27, 2007, 12:21 AM
You know, after playing EVEN more this game is freaking awesome, challenging youself by trying to take down the big daddies on your first try is a blast.

GoodEnoughForMe
Aug 29, 2007, 05:59 PM
I found it ironic that when Ayn Rand is under so much criticism herself in OT, I happen to play this at my friends house. I can't find recommended specs though, anyone know what I would need to run this?

Mirc
Aug 29, 2007, 06:11 PM
I've never heard about it before.

Where can I find some screenshots so I can see for myself how this great atmosphere is like? :)

Harbringer
Aug 29, 2007, 10:42 PM
I've never heard about it before.

Where can I find some screenshots so I can see for myself how this great atmosphere is like? :)

Google websearch, but honestly, even the reviews unanimously agree that this game is absolutely incredible. Valve(the company that made half-life and half-life two) even had to ban tere employees from playing it at there offices becuase they were playing that to much instead of playing Bioshock...its that good. Its an FPS, and it desnt quite follow FPS standard affair thoguh, you wontbe shooting the whole game. But there are eight different weopons, and each except for the camera and wrench have at least three different types of ammunition. You also have these powers that you get throughout the game called "plasmids" which give you abilaties ranging from shooting fire to unleashing a swarm of killer bees. A lt of the games fun comes from expieramenting with the combinations you can make.

For instance, I froze a guy, while frozen I sicked killer bees on him, also while still frozen I put a ind trap in front of hime. The wind trap is placed on the ground, when stepped on, the unlucky feller is flung into the roof really hard. So immediatly upon thawing he tried to run at me, sending him into the roof. While in the air I lit him on fire and on the way down I hist him with a heat seeking RPG. I then used his body(using telenisis) as a meat shield to avoid being shot by turrets.

Granted, thats the most elaborate combination ive come up with but you get the point.

Maniacal
Aug 30, 2007, 12:05 AM
http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php

Just be careful with your plasmids when using the washroom.

leonel
Aug 30, 2007, 12:31 PM
The game keeps making my computer crash ever 10 minutes. :( I bet it's my processor is too old.

Izipo
Aug 30, 2007, 06:23 PM
I have a reservation on this game at my local store, as its not out yet in Europe.
For sure it looks awesome and there is a very strong atmosphere. Makes me think of F.E.A.R for the atmosphere mixed with Farcry for the eye-candy (remember when it went out, had to upgrade for this one).

Anyway, I can hardly wait, but I fear my laptop won't be able to handle it properly, although its pretty powerful (6 months old).
Is the demo downloadable from somewhere ? sorry, I'm too lazy to search.:blush:

warpstorm
Aug 30, 2007, 08:42 PM
Best single player shooter in ages.

grahamiam
Aug 31, 2007, 09:34 AM
Best single player shooter in ages.
This has been sucking up all my nights this week. Great stuff :) Playing the PC version via Steam.

Harbringer
Sep 04, 2007, 07:55 PM
The endings are both, sad to say, absolute bunk........

Maniacal
Sep 05, 2007, 12:16 AM
I heard the plot described as exactly the same more or less as the two System Shock gmaes (of which bioshock is sort of the third in spirit if not in name). Although I've never played System Shock.

steviejay
Sep 05, 2007, 05:11 AM
The endings are both, sad to say, absolute bunk........

I agree 100%. Not since the Half Life games have I been so dissapointed. Although I will play the game again to see the other ending....

Izipo
Sep 05, 2007, 06:05 AM
Hmm, interesting...
How good is the replay value, then ? Is there any ?

aelf
Sep 05, 2007, 12:25 PM
I've been playing for a week now and it's costing me some sleep, just like all the Civ games ;)

I think this game is great. Unlike most shooters, Bioshock doesn't get boring halfway. There are plenty of stuff you can do, of which taking photos is my favourite, and plenty of ways to develop your character. Sure, the game feels very scripted, but that's part of what makes it interesting. Big Daddy fights are really that great, and the way you fight them evolve as more weapons and powers are given to you. I also like U-Invent very much.

The storyline is fine. It may be a bit cheesy and to some extent predictable, but how it unfolds is great. The excellent voice acting certainly helps a lot. I've seen both endings (yes, I fear no spoilers), and while I was like "Wth" at first, seeing how the story culminates into them is makes them feel better. Overall, I think this is more fun than Resident Evil, the closest thing to it that I've played and which I found fun.

aelf
Sep 05, 2007, 12:29 PM
Hmm, interesting...
How good is the replay value, then ? Is there any ?

Depends on you, I suppose. I think I wouldn't mind replaying the game twice just to try out different ways to complete it. The first time round is like walking in the dark, not sure what your style is. The second time round you should be better able to focus on getting what you really need and play very effectively. Third time round... Maybe I'll try to win only using the wrench :lol: The character development is really what gives it replay value.

steviejay
Sep 05, 2007, 12:57 PM
You'll want to play it twice, one killing all the little sisters, one saving them all. maybe jumping a difficulty for laugh. After that, with no multiplayer functionality (for the 360, a principle I agree with) it's the type of gamew you'll stumble across in a year and play again cause you can't remember exactly how the story goes. But don't expect to play it over and over like you would Saints Row or Oblivion.

Maniacal
Sep 05, 2007, 01:19 PM
I wonder if there will be mods for it.

Harbringer
Sep 05, 2007, 06:04 PM
Afer playing through it a few times I think all of the reviewers were hi when they reviewed it, its a great game, but a 9.5 for this is way to hi, mayby an 8.75. It just didnt do anything revolutionary....but unlike most everything it did what it did do well.

Kozmos
Sep 05, 2007, 06:27 PM
I wonder if there will be mods for it.

Without a doubt. One of the video reviewers suggested that some sick fellas will make a little girl nude patch XD

Maniacal
Sep 05, 2007, 11:56 PM
Without a doubt. One of the video reviewers suggested that some sick fellas will make a little girl nude patch XD

Sick youknowwhats.

They're going to have trouble hosting that. Even if they have their own domain, I bet Unisoft and a LOT of groups nad probably the police too are going to go after that with torches and sharp n pointy pitchforks.

===

Anyways, mods won' be out until next year (like anything major anyways), I'll buy it next year then.

EDIT: The author (of this vid) likes the game still, even if most of the vid is comparing to to System Shock 2. Waring: Very fast speaking narrator.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1394-Zero-Punctuation-BioShock
XD

steviejay
Sep 06, 2007, 04:00 AM
It seems that there might be some Downloadable content coming in the near future.

Snatched from 'Gaming Today' (via Evilavatar)

Possible new content for Bioshock (http://news.filefront.com/rumor-new-plasmids-for-bioshock/)

Murky
Sep 06, 2007, 08:43 AM
Sick youknowwhats.

They're going to have trouble hosting that. Even if they have their own domain, I bet Unisoft and a LOT of groups nad probably the police too are going to go after that with torches and sharp n pointy pitchforks.

===

Anyways, mods won' be out until next year (like anything major anyways), I'll buy it next year then.

EDIT: The author (of this vid) likes the game still, even if most of the vid is comparing to to System Shock 2. Waring: Very fast speaking narrator.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/zeropunctuation/1394-Zero-Punctuation-BioShock
XD

I think that fact that you can kill little girls in the game is bad enough. Even if the little sisters are supposedly monsters, I would feel guilty for do that.

Maniacal
Sep 06, 2007, 01:07 PM
It seems that there might be some Downloadable content coming in the near future.

Snatched from 'Gaming Today' (via Evilavatar)

Possible new content for Bioshock (http://news.filefront.com/rumor-new-plasmids-for-bioshock/)

Well, if they try to charge people for that content now, (even without this pre-knowledge) they are going to get a nice big fat backlash. Having to pay for something already in the game is BULL. Even if they aren't going to charge for it, they should still release an editor, a lto of games have survived many years BECAUSE of the editor.

warpstorm
Sep 06, 2007, 04:11 PM
Well, PrinceScamp, it is a known fact that a lot of 360 DLC is actually on the disk in the first place and all you are downloading is the key to unlock it. MS even makes this easy for the developers to do.

Maniacal
Sep 06, 2007, 04:20 PM
Well, PrinceScamp, it is a known fact that a lot of 360 DLC is actually on the disk in the first place and all you are downloading is the key to unlock it. MS even makes this easy for the developers to do.

That's dumb. I'm glad I don't have a 360 then.

steviejay
Sep 07, 2007, 06:18 AM
Without deviating TOO much from the thread of Bioshock you know what I think Xbox Live really needs? mods made by fans. I mean you can do it for the PC and I think simply looking at Civ shows how well it can be done. The idea of having 'official' mods all the time just seem to curtail any potential development you can have with games you've completed and just forgotten about.

I'm going back through the game now on Hard and saving all the little sisters just to see the new ending. After that there better be some brilliant DLC otherwise BIoshock's getting put on the shelf and forgotten about for a few months.

Rheinmetall
Sep 09, 2007, 01:05 AM
And finally the money question. Is it worth to pay 50€ for?

Maniacal
Sep 09, 2007, 01:22 AM
FIFTY euros? That's like $71 Canadian! that's way overpriced. Most new games are $60, some are $50.

Harbringer
Sep 09, 2007, 01:26 AM
And finally the money question. Is it worth to pay 50€ for?

Honestly no........the games only about ten hours long......

Rheinmetall
Sep 09, 2007, 02:10 PM
Then it's settled, I'll stick to dwarf fortress.

Maniacal
Sep 09, 2007, 04:32 PM
Then it's settled, I'll stick to dwarf fortress.

XD

Headline:

DX10 Bioshock owned by ASCII game.

Dwarf Fortress 1
Bioshock 0

Harbringer
Sep 09, 2007, 04:59 PM
But ot take my word for it if a games not at least fifty hours long I wont bother paying fifty dollars for it. I think of it this way, If I pay a dollar for something I should at least get an hour of at least low quality entertainment for it. For example, It takes me about an hours to drink a 16oz bottle of Doctor Pepper, So therefor the cost of a 16 oz doctor peper where I live works out for me because I pay a dollar for an hour. Of course, there are exceptions....such as condoms....which BTW are freeking extortion.

Rheinmetall
Sep 10, 2007, 08:53 AM
Thus far I've paid 20$ for Dwarf Fortress and I've gotten way more that 100 hours of quality entertainment.

The condoms are worth it. Ofcourse the quality of "entertainment" may vary.

Maniacal
Sep 10, 2007, 03:45 PM
You paid for DF?

Rheinmetall
Sep 11, 2007, 11:10 AM
You paid for DF?

Yes, donated.

Tykinruoka
Sep 12, 2007, 03:30 AM
I'll probably buy it when stores drop it into the bargain bin. It wouldn't even work on my current outdated computer.

Murky
Sep 12, 2007, 08:13 AM
I'll probably buy it when stores drop it into the bargain bin. It wouldn't even work on my current outdated computer.

I used to buy software that way too. Oddly, some software doesn't drop it price like it used to.

Rheinmetall
Sep 13, 2007, 09:12 AM
I tried the demo and it sure looks impressive. Even on my flupump computer.

Kan' Sharuminar
Sep 15, 2007, 08:43 AM
I think I might just buy it today to give me a quick shooter to play. Haven't played a new game since, well, two weeks ago.

Harbringer
Sep 15, 2007, 11:59 AM
I think I might just buy it today to give me a quick shooter to play. Haven't played a new game since, well, two weeks ago.

I wouldnt buy it....just borrow it or something is not even five hours of game and it has no replay value...but it is great.

Murky
Sep 15, 2007, 01:31 PM
BioShock sales have benefited greatly from all the hype but it does have an interesting storyline too. Some aspects of the game play can be frustrating at first until you better understand how the AI works.

Lozzy_Ozzy
Sep 15, 2007, 06:28 PM
I used to buy software that way too. Oddly, some software doesn't drop it price like it used to.

PC games still seem to.
Preys already down to £5 here.

I have played Bioshock round my mates house, I really loved it.
I would buy it but a) when it came out it was broke b) I am hooked on Gears/Rainbow Six and c) HALO 3 :mischief:.

Maniacal
Sep 15, 2007, 08:00 PM
Yeah, Prey is only $10 here, but the "bargain bin" (which rarely have PC games >.>) are like $18.95, not much of a bargain. Jewel cases are cheap though, $8.97, or close to 10.

Kan' Sharuminar
Sep 15, 2007, 08:11 PM
I got Defcon instead. But I shall own Bioshock one day :)

Izipo
Sep 17, 2007, 04:07 PM
Same here.
Defcon rocks.:goodjob:
For those who have spare time (and love RTS) you should try the demo (http://www.everybody-dies.com/).

Luckymoose
Sep 17, 2007, 10:26 PM
Bioshock is amazing. I am surprised it wasn't hyped up more. It really was not hyped compared to Gears or Halo 3.

steviejay
Sep 18, 2007, 03:43 PM
Probably because it was the first. Just wait, the next one will be pumped up like mad.

sirtommygunn
Sep 18, 2007, 04:07 PM
Probably because it was the first. Just wait, the next one will be pumped up like mad.

bioshock is practically the sequal to system shock 2...

Waffles
Sep 18, 2007, 09:14 PM
Just finished it today for 360. Man, this is one of the BEST games for 360 i've played. It rocks. Atmosphere is great, innovations are not too complex, and the game is driven by the great plot.

steviejay
Sep 19, 2007, 03:37 PM
Waffles, didn't you think it a bit...... short though? I mean it seems tyhey spent so much time making it look sexy as hell and the like and as a result the length took a beating. I mean I completed it within a few days...

Kozmos
Sep 19, 2007, 05:01 PM
Uninstalled it, didnt even bother with the second playthrough. Just watch the other ending on youtube. Good game no doubt, but once you finish it it's done.

steviejay
Sep 19, 2007, 05:25 PM
I must admit, the playability (is that a word) dies the death once you've done it a second time (or a first time in your case Cleric :) )

I've done the two different 'ethical' choices given (lets be honest, should have been more). This game had potential, not saying it was a brilliant game, it was but there just wasn't enough to make me pick it up alot and go 'oh aye, this rocks'

FriendlyFire
Sep 20, 2007, 10:47 PM
Three endings BTW

Kozmos
Sep 21, 2007, 07:01 AM
The third is basically same as the second(evil) except that the good doctor uses a sadder voice.

Rheinmetall
Sep 23, 2007, 04:11 AM
A friend of mine lended me his copy so I get to play it for free now.