We now have one working civ (no unique biuldings, art, or anything like that though): dunland

i need the flags for the civs though. i'm not sure what design to use for dunland.

If I remember correctly, they liked to pillage and burn the Rohirrim lands because they thought the lands were rightfully theirs. So what about a hand holding a burning torch?

i've founded this three site:

http://flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/dunland.htm

http://www.games-workshop.es/lotr/oscuridad/saruman_04.asp

http://www.nwa.org.au/lotr/figures/dunland/dunland.htmlAnd there is

an flag bearer (this flag likes warg):

Dead Men of Dunharrow were related to the Dunlendings.

i dont like merp. but i think info about dunlandings can only found there.

Merp Heroes:
Durnan-Fighter
Dagaard Drachoschlar-Warrior
Gustavan Arenrim-Bard
Vallen Gumb-Scholar
Jerramiah Fallowhid-Rouge
Haegwar Haegs-Spy
Maerret Marner-Spy

Merp Cities:
Name Population Type
Angren 1720 medium
Arailt 1918 small
Cillien 1916 medium
Enedhir 1420 medium
Freawul 1922 small
Larach Duhnnan 1817 Big - capital
Nin-in-Eilph 1715 medium
Treforn 2017 small
Wularan 1917 small

thanks :)

For the flag, if we're not using Saruman we could use the White Hand. I think LOTR TCG had a separate Dunland emblem, though, I can look it up.

white hand is good. i had forgotten.

http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/t/thomasberubeg/71422/xfdjvtdxet.jpg
http://static.filefront.com/images/personal/t/thomasberubeg/71422/lxmocxloes.jpg
tadaa!

i haven't added the tech tree elda king sent me yet, but that'll come soon.

That looks great.

AWESOME!

Do you got the new mod?

I got this cool ent pic for a possible nature civylikelywhoo...
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/85420/20060809175928-ent.jpg

Pics look good! I think grey is a better color than brown for Dunland. Also, I thought it was Dunlending, not -er.

it is, i just made a typo in the text file, that's changed since it took that screenshot

@ghandi_rules: nice pic. we'll use it as the wonder pic(instead of movie) for the March of the ents wonder.

Good ent pic, though it looks like the head is part Balrog.

Also, the Saruman leaderhead's hair needs darkening - it looks like it's almost a light source! :p

Its best so...

Great! Truly, there's a limited amount of info about the dunlendings on the homes and other works, but it's sparce and small, so the names Sifaus sugested are good enought. Let's see if this time the whole thing works...

i'm search for "real" dunlending heroes and buildings.
i think that special dunlending building can be "Dunland barracks". Because dunlendings created for war in middle-earth

we're trying to have more than justt one unique building per civ. (at the very least, we want the buildings of the different races to look different)
what bonus would the Dunlending barracks give?

Sincerely,
thomas

can be more str or an special dunlending power or xp
an other building -> dunland mill-food and happy peoples
Dunland Siegers-special siege weapons
House of spys- gives more speed to spys

it would probably be xp :goodjob:

Those are all good ideas :)

i searching.....

Well, what's the use of dunlending heroes, by the way? Great People are general, and most heroes also... But search for city names is good.

ok. i searching for all heroes now

You mean, of all the peoples? We already thought of some, later will search for the list and post it here.

i mean dunland heroes :) but if you need any heroes, i can find for you.

I just said we don't need any heroes for Dunland specifically, so as you said "all heroes" I thought you decided to search for heroes of all the races...

One civ hero...

i can do that too if you want. i start to search internet now...
:bowdown::borg:

Below are some flags I made for Gondor, Mordor and the Noldor. For Dunland I would definitely use the White Hand as a flag (also perhaps the civ could be called "The White Hand" and the plural could be Dunlandings perhaps?

[pic below]

Also I like the axemen (made by sezereth?) but I don't really like the saruman leaderhead I made - is frenchman still making the static leaderheads? perhaps we could use his, for consistency, because I only have 2 and only 1 of them is good (sauron).

Those flags are amazing. Great work indeed.

Thanks xmen guy! However they do look a little "sharp" when zoomed out. Anyway the Gondor flag is the typical tree, and stars with an added white border, mordor is a stylised eye which I modified a bit, and the Noldor flag is a Silmaril (enhanced in photoshop). Also seen as this thread was to do with dunland I made a white hand flag which also has saruman's rune on it (not sure whether to keep the rune there though - anyway picture below, on the far right side. Also may add a red border to mordor's flag.

[pic below]

Nice flags Chuggi

Very niice

very nice, thanks...

Very nice. But the flag for the Noldor actually is based in a woman's heraldic symbol (it's a circle; man's allways are lozenges, and countries are squares), truly on Lúthien's later heraldry. Also, we don't have a single Noldor civ, but three...
Could you please do flags for the remaining civs? The 3 houses of the Noldor, the 3 of the Edain, Sindar, Vanyar, Teleri, Falathrim, Nandor, Arnor, Númenor, Angmar, Longbeards, other 3 dwarven houses. When possible you could use the elven heraldries made by Tolkien (for those who don't know, you may find them here: http://www.forodrim.org/gobennas/heraldry/heraldry.htm).

Very nice. But the flag for the Noldor actually is based in a woman's heraldic symbol (it's a circle; man's allways are lozenges, and countries are squares), truly on Lúthien's later heraldry. Also, we don't have a single Noldor civ, but three...
Could you please do flags for the remaining civs? The 3 houses of the Noldor, the 3 of the Edain, Sindar, Vanyar, Teleri, Falathrim, Nandor, Arnor, Númenor, Angmar, Longbeards, other 3 dwarven houses. When possible you could use the elven heraldries made by Tolkien (for those who don't know, you may find them here: http://www.forodrim.org/gobennas/heraldry/heraldry.htm) (http://www.forodrim.org/gobennas/heraldry/heraldry.htm%29).

I presumed it was a Silmaril because it looks like a jewel, and it's on the front of my copy of the book but you know more than me on tolkien stuff (or is it just the shape you mean? what did the actual jewels look like?). Also the link doesn't work. About the other civs, theres way too many! I think you should merge some if they haven't already been made for BtS but that's just me.

[pic below]

Here's something that could be used for Durin's folk, it's the hammer and anvil. Let me know if the colour scheme could be improved.

I think it looks good... i don't know about colors, but i think it looks good.

They are all great, Dúrin's is perfect, no need to change anything. And you don't need to do all of them, if you don't want - and actually, many civs weren't on the original idea, and were only implemented recently. But anyway, I was just listing all, for you to choose.
About that flag, it's actually a Silmaril, and was in Lúthien's later heraldic symbol. As far as I know, it's a picture made by Tolkien himself, part of a serie of elven heraldic symbols, with rules and everything; as you used it, I suposed you knew the entire serie. The link probably don't worked because there was a ")" after it, and the browser interprets it as part of the link, try removing it and trying.
For the older version, I had converted many of those symbols to .dds and tried to use them, but they were just white flags with a symbol, and only the white appeared (it didn't work)... Could you do some of those for us? And, of course, if you have any ideas for other flags, it would also be great.
Edit: I was thinking... I'd use the flag you made for the Nandor, if you don't mind.

Elven cityset
download (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7108)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/89000/elfset.jpg

Look at this...

of course it will look better with the actuall elven buildings, as well as forest sourrounding it.

The big pavilion thing looks a lot like Southeast Asian architecture, but everything else is fine.

Here's some new flags, I'll remove the other pictures in above posts because they are basically the same thing..

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3078/newflagsgh5.jpg

Sorry about the width, also is frenchman still making static leaderheads? they were quite good.

Here's some new flags, I'll remove the other pictures in above posts because they are basically the same thing..

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3078/newflagsgh5.jpg

Sorry about the width, also is frenchman still making static leaderheads? they were quite good.
these look good. Frenchman hasn't made a leaderhead in a long time... i don't know if he still is making them.

Elven cityset
download (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7108)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/89000/elfset.jpg
I was thinking that this wouldn't look good for woodelves (i can't remember thier real name right now, but legolas's people), though for most elven civs it would look good. i think that for woodelves we should use the Nature city set (hrochland is making it), but instead of like the nature civ, with no buildings, the woodelves should have buildings beteen the trees.

Isnt woodelves named Talari?

The Teleri that made it to Valinor were the seafaring elves, while the ones that remained in Middle-Earth became the Sindar or the Silvan. I think you could call the Silvan 'wood-elves' in a way, though the description is almost as valid for the Sindar.

No, the wood elves were mostly Nandor, but there were also many Avari with them and some Sindar (that were mostly nobles and kings between them), and in Lórien even some Noldor.
These graphics are fantastic... And the flags also, they fit perfectly with the mod, the units, leaderheads and everything.

Hi, elda, could you quickly send me the old leaderheadart file?

Elda I read that page on heralrdry and understand what you meant a little better now, the pic I used is actually just for Lúthien (Thingol's daughter) so it probably doesn't much sense as a flag..

Chuggi, you would't happen to have a DL for those civ flags??

Actually it makes sense to use it as a flag: it looks good! :p Also, the symbol of a important leader is usually a flag used by it's people, and Lúthien lived between the Nandor after her and Beren returned from the dead, so a flag with a flower and the Silmaril would fit perfectly for them.
The heraldries of the men could be turned 45° to be countries/peoples flags (as Finwë's was also the flag for all the Noldor, just turned this way). For the Noldor, I had originally used the heraldries of Fëanor, Fingolfin and Finarfin for the 3 houses, but there are other options. For example, Finwë's (for House of Fingolfin), the Silmarili's (for House of Fëanor), and Finrod's (for House of Finarfin).

Actually it makes sense to use it as a flag: it looks good! :p Also, the symbol of a important leader is usually a flag used by it's people, and Lúthien lived between the Nandor after her and Beren returned from the dead, so a flag with a flower and the Silmaril would fit perfectly for them.
The heraldries of the men could be turned 45° to be countries/peoples flags (as Finwë's was also the flag for all the Noldor, just turned this way). For the Noldor, I had originally used the heraldries of Fëanor, Fingolfin and Finarfin for the 3 houses, but there are other options. For example, Finwë's (for House of Fingolfin), the Silmarili's (for House of Fëanor), and Finrod's (for House of Finarfin).

That's good to know! I'll see if I can create some more :)

Yeah please do mate, they look 'magical'.. lolz :P..!