Don't mod this to the sports section. The most important thing to happen to Britain in the last twenty years just occured! This is a matter of National Pride!

Argentina lost!

:goodjob:

Hmm... If this wasn't just a group game, you might have a point. If this is the high point, you haven't been doing so well, lately. :p

Yes, I suppose the fact that Britain now has a robust economy that is the envy of Europe where, in 1982 it was barely escaping being the laughingstock of Europe is obviously secondary.

R.III

Okay, beer may have had something to do with me opening this thread.

The reformation of the House of Lords and giving independence to the Bank of England might also feature somewhere on the list of important things to happen to Britain recently.

This thread may now be officially closed!

:D

(But we still won!)

The thing that bothers me the most is that you would have opened this thread on beer. Why aren't you out drinking with the rest of the lads? I would be if I were you...

As a pedantic note, most important thing to happen in ENGLISH history I might be willing to accept.

The Irish might feel peace after 30 years of terrorism and bloodshed mattered a bit more to them.

The Scots and Welsh might feel that moving towards a devolved, federated "United Kingdom" was quite important.

But if the English can't think of anything better than a first round World Cup match.....?????

Well put, Mad Scot. Which is, incidentally, why I hate the English team and root for Argentina. Because (a) Argentina is a cool country, and Argentines are great, but (b) I choose to root for them because I am (by descent, and perhaps soon by residency as well) a Briton, and this "English" football team crap is treachery to the Union! The wonderful bloody Union!

And I'm 3/4s Scot, goddamnit, and am I the only poor bastard out there who sees the value of a Unionist team?????

R.III

If beating Argentina in a 1st round WC tournament is the best thing to have happened to the English in the last 2 decades, I feel sorry for the people of England. :( :rolleyes:

I want a single British team, and a single American team. At the moment there are teams from England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland, America and Peurto Rico. Now this is unfair however you look at it. Either America has two chances to win and Britain four, or that neither team has as many players available as they could. Damned unfair, non?

Puerto Rico isn't techniclly part of the US. it's protectorant. While they use our currency, build projects w/ our tax dollars, and live under the cover of our military, they refuse the join the Union, they protest our using part of thier smaler islands as a naval bombing range, and are, in my experiance, very rude to American tourists.

Did anyone notice me terminate this thread?

Clearly not, well anyhow seeing as you're up for a fight :rolleyes: :

I put British deliberatey to wind you anti-English Scots up!

British, because the English are part of Britain, as are you Madscot and Richard III - live with it! You are sad individuals if you want to get this serious over a football game.
People like you make me sick to the back teeth.

Knight-Dragon, I'd already qualified my previous posts.

Richard III - I'd had more than my fill and had to go back to work.

Monkeyman116 - The scots wouldn't put up with a British football team (pride) and the fact that the majority of a British team would be English, which I agree would be unbalanced.

(Draws a deep breath)

Anyhow, well done to Ireland for getting through the group.

...Is this thread done now or are we up for more anti-Anglo feeling? 'Cos I can face you all down. :D

Why do I get the feeling I'm arguing with a bunch of teenagers?

JoeM - apologies, I did not notice it had terminated.

But incidentally - not a teenager. A unionist Scot who has a hard time selling that position to his nationalist friends. (And, for that matter, 50% English by descent AND lived there for 14 years)

Good we're all friends again Madscot :goodjob:

Scotland and England are both beautiful countries, let's hope it stays that way.

(I won't post to this thread again)

Originally posted by JoeM
Why do I get the feeling I'm arguing with a bunch of teenagers? You started it. :p

What I'd give to be a teenager again. :D Peace.

I think a UK team would be very good.

I mean Scotland do need to get in the world cup!

I think that the most important event was in 1982, was the last serious conflcit in British history, well right about now....

Anyhow, well done to Ireland for getting through the group.

and whooping Scotland 2-0 last wednesday without some of our best players:D

booha:goodjob:

For me it would be the falklands, i remember it quite well even though i was a child at the time.

A major operation for a country whose military had been underfunded for many years, the after effects where rethinking of the dismantling of the royal navy, margeret thatcher staying in power for 8 more years, a wave of patriotism at the time. Wether these were good effects is a personal matter

People rarely realise how close the conflict was, its without doubt that the british elite troops sent were far better trained than the argentinian conscripts, many of them forced to fight. The land troops sent by britain such as the parachute regiment and the S.A.S etc are second to none.

Yet the british were greatly impressed by the bravery of argentinian pilots. Had we lost a carrier, it would have been all over. One british commander (forgotten who) remarked at the time @that was a damn close thing@

Ellie

Thatcherism and The Constitutional reforms after 1997.

Yes, I agree with Richard and Hamlet - the economic reforms of the 1980s has got to be top of the list, with some football match way, way, way down. http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/icons/icon22.gif


The ERM debacle might be a contender, too. It finished off the Conservatives for a decade and still counting, but also helped to kick-start ten years of constant economic growth. Of course, that's linked with Thatcherism, but as a single event it's pretty important.

The independence of the Bank of England. We were dancing in the streets that night.:beer: [party] [dance]

Originally posted by Pillager
The ERM debacle might be a contender, too.

Forgot about that one.

Originally posted by Pillager
but also helped to kick-start ten years of constant economic growth.

Pfffffftttt.

And the fact that it resulted in the loss of billions in one day, which apparently we 'didn't have' to spend on schools and hospitals. And this apparently was such a minor oversight that it was insufficent for anyone to actually resign afterwards, or for John Major to sack anyone.

All of which originates at Thatcher's decision to take us in when we did, of course, so I suppose I could link it to Thatcherism.

Oh, and the fact that she'd consistently pissed-off a large section of mainland Europe for the best part of a decade, which might, dare we say it, had something of an influence on a lot of countries unwillingness to help out on the actual day.

The construction of supermarkets up and down the land.

That is the most important change :)

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true, without the falklands conflict it wouldnt have happened as thatcher would have lost.

Ellie

I'm not sure she would have, considering the fact that Labour were utterly unelectable at that time. I still think people would have voted for The Tories, even if she had lost the war. It wouldn't have been on such a huge majority, but they would have still got in.



Having to chose between Michael Foot and Margaret Thatcher .... brrr, doesn't bear thinking about.

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hmm i know many villify thatcher and critisise her. But altho she had many faults, imho she was a great prime minister.

Ellie

Wow, who dug this one up from it's poor man's grave?

The successful marketing of the inimitable "Furry Dice" a product that swept the land in Capris and Mark IV Cortinas alike!