This will be the final release, with only bug fixes and SP RFC changes added in.

Changes from SP RFC.

No civ switching in-game. You must leave and re-enter as the new civ.
No option to refuse city flips.
No world congresses.
No Mercenaries

Date: Oct 7th, 10am PST.

We would appreciate a large group of players for this.

Where do I sign up?

Can I be Russia?

Also where there be a few rules laid down? Like 'no waiting by a player's spawn point with the intention of destroying them in the first few turns of their spawn?' XD

Also where there be a few rules laid down? Like 'no waiting by a player's spawn point with the intention of destroying them in the first few turns of their spawn?' XD

Please explain to me why this is a bad thing.

Wow! How have I not heard more about this??? Do you have an estimate for when it will be available for public download?

Wow! How have I not heard more about this??? Do you have an estimate for when it will be available for public download?

October 7th. The current version we're working on is for the upcoming patch, so we can't release it before Firaxis does. Here's the thread on the previous version. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=238054) Although, the 3.03 version is not available to download anymore and we don't have a working version for 3.03.

Am i assuming correctly 10 AM PST would be 6 PM GMT?
If yes, count me in for one of the earlier civs ;)

Should be Monday, October the 8th, 19:00 CEST. Why not during the weekend ?
I can be present, my wife too if you need more ppl.
Btw I have the older version, I'll upload it somewhere and update this post later today.

Btw I have the older version, I'll upload it somewhere and update this post later today.

Why? Don't do that, thank you.

The 8th? Unless that's a bank holiday I won't be able to play. I'd like to though, isn't there any chance of doing it on a weekend?

Please explain to me why this is a bad thing.

Isn't it obvious? I could see someone spending a lot of their resources on planning to topple you within the first handful of turns, and that would totally ruin it for the one spawning because they obviously can't plan for it :P If more than one person does this, a few civilizations won't even have a chance to get past their first turn. In normal 1 player game you obviously don't have to worry about this. The thing about this mod going mp is if you give a bit of study you KNOW when and where others will spawn, so it's so easy to take advantage of that.

Mayan ripping the Aztecs apart within 1 turn is one example of it. I've done it a few times myself in single player. I once even waited by the Russian's spawn as Greece, and ousted them.

The 7th? Unless that's a bank holiday I won't be able to play. I'd like to though, isn't there any chance of doing it on a weekend?

*cough* It is on a weekend...*cough*

Btw I have the older version, I'll upload it somewhere and update this post later today.

See, that version is broken. This new, shiny, version has tacked down most of the OOS issues.

If you spend resources to do that (Mayas wiping Aztecs that spawn with Longbowmen on Hills require quite some planning eh) then most likely, in a MP game, you will see someone else win. I'm unsure how smart it would be to do that.... provided you play to win and not just to wipe the last come.

If you spend resources to do that (Mayas wiping Aztecs that spawn with Longbowmen on Hills require quite some planning eh) then most likely, in a MP game, you will see someone else win. I'm unsure how smart it would be to do that.... provided you play to win and not just to wipe the last come.

Actually a great way to ensure you'll win the Mayan UHV is to obliterate the Aztecs on the turn they spawn. There's even been a guide released that has this technique in it.

Maybe, but I don't see anything great with it, and good luck with winning the Mayan UHV in MP, the other players will surely let you build the Temple of Kukulkan first...

Maybe, but I don't see anything great with it, and good luck with winning the Mayan UHV in MP, the other players will surely let you build the Temple of Kukulkan first...

Well I don't think most UHV's are possible in MP BTS, so I wouldn't bother with it if I were playing the Mayans. But if I stomped out the Aztec early, and grabbed that rather productive land, there's a higher chance I'll survive the game, and a slight chance I may win through other means. I doubt I'd be the only one thinking this way!

I guess my point is, for the sake of trying to win, some players might spend their resources planning to attack a spawn. Portugal, Aztec, and even Ethiopia come to mind.

Anyone who wants to join the New World Alliance, let me know. Our goal will be to protect our lands from the pale face.

Will it be hotseat compatible?

Dumb question, I know..

I guess my point is, for the sake of trying to win, some players might spend their resources planning to attack a spawn. Portugal, Aztec, and even Ethiopia come to mind.

you could think to a system similar to advanced starts (10 turns of forced peace upon spawn), but that would be a problem with new civs that spawn and take over previous civs cities. Although, now that I think about it, the previous MP version would make cities flip without older civs having a chance to refuse and declare war, so maybe the 10 turns forced peace is doable ?

Anyone who wants to join the New World Alliance, let me know. Our goal will be to protect our lands from the pale face.

I'll be Spain. :cool:

Edit, could you edit your first post and write up everyone who's signed up?

*cough* It is on a weekend...*cough*
Hehe, count me in then.

I'm still Russia!

Are we starting from 3000bc?

I would love to take part in this, but sadly I can't due to being in a wildly inappropriate time zone, not having internet access at home, and not actually having the game out here anyway.

Anyhow, will you be posting screenshots after the game is through? I'd love to see what a multiplayer game ends up looking like in the Rhye's mod.

Anyhow, will you be posting screenshots after the game is through? I'd love to see what a multiplayer game ends up looking like in the Rhye's mod.

It looks exactly the same.

EDIT: How about a teaser of the current game Rhye and I are testing?

Our test is going pretty well this time.
If this luck continues, the Oct 7th could be a inauguration of 1.0 rather than a test.

Did I miss it?

Whitefire, a teaser would be cool :)

My mighty Roman empire. With 7 vassals in tow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Arethi/Civ4ScreenShot0033-2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/Arethi/Civ4ScreenShot0034-2.jpg

Impressive. How did you manage with stability?

and I'm one of the vassals :sad:

This is a screenshots of a multiplayer version of the mod?
Amazing.

How do you keep it...?

and I'm one of the vassals :sad:

So much for playing one game in 2 years :lol: Let me guess, you played as Ethiopia.

@ Whitefire making Rhye a vassal is truely a deity victory.

Seriously, though, it's great that you can make a human player a vassal.
This mode really looks promising.
What kind of platform do you have in mind to get people together for MP games? This very forum or something else?

i think i'll open a sub-forum

I can't wait to play.

Impressive. How did you manage with stability?

Rome has lenient expansion penalties, so the mount of territory isn't problematic. Also, the stability bonuses from vassals pile up quickly, and I would recommend smaller nations becoming vassals of more expansive ones (Mongolia, Rome, Arabia, Spain, etc.) to benefit your team. The only time I lost cities was after I jumped into Universal Sufferage and Emancipation. The ensuing great depression caused Egypt to rise, which I quickly smushed 4 turns later.

With smart teching and tech trading with Rhye, we were able to get Medicine in ~1500 AD, which allowed us to miss the last 2 waves of it. With 3 players working in concert, you could conceivably tech Medicine in the 1300s, letting you mis 3 plagues. In that screenshot, I was just starting on Combustion and Rhye was about to finish Assembly Line. With Destroyers and Infantry, I was going to march through China to link up my Empire, then take out those pesky Euros to make a empire that spans from Londinium to Tokyo. There's not much challenge when it's 2 players vs. the AIs, hopefully a number of players on other players will increase the intrigue.

I think that "no tech brokering" should always be enabled in MP

Very interesting.
And what civ was Rhye?

Looks very fun, and kudos for beating Rhye at his own game :P

I think that "no tech brokering" should always be enabled in MP

What will that fix? Presumably, the players working together will follow specific tech paths separate from one another. They'll still be able to trade the techs they research to one another freely. It's doubtful that another player team will trade with them, so tech brokering never places a restriction on tech trading.

well at least it would limit this exploit to just 2 players

well at least it would limit this exploit to just 2 players

If you discover a tech, you can trade it to anyone. So the exploit will work regardless of the number of people in a team.

I wonder how do the techs awarded at start count for the "tech brokering" system. Do they count as if the civ researched them or not ?

May i aply to , i will be Hanibal of Carthage, and what we gona use for the multiplayer game??? direct ip, gamespy etc.....

hi Dimitri,
first the new BTS patch must be released, then if everything works we'll announce everything here

Ok i will be waiting ^^

I wonder, is a vanilla RFC being developed for multi player? I know it must be difficult to do the coding to make a huge mod like this multi player compatible for one version of the game, 3 must be ungodly. I'd probably assume vanilla RFC multi player would be developed last if at all, however if such a thing is in existence, I would be very excited to know about it.

no, it's not gonna be.
Imagine that every little change I make, I've got to export it to all the 4 versions (the 3 + MP). Which will sooner or later become 5 (random map version).
Imagine if there were 3 MP...

(random map version).


Amazing news! When? It's got to be really soon if you talk about it. Please give us a few more details on that. Like are civs going to spawn at the same dates for example? Will we be able to play on a Europe map?

no, not soon. It'll begin when no more adjustments are needed and MP is released.
There's already a thread about it somewhere.

I'll be here for the October 7th game/release. If its possible, I'd like to reserve the Vikings, and possibly the Americans.

Today then. Are we starting from 3000BC?

it's entirely up to Whitefire.
I'll be online from 6 to 7 PM GMT+1 (9 to 10 AM Pacific)

You can add me on MSN, ICQ, YIM at that time so that I can send you the links of the download

I will be on at around 3pm Rhye's time, after I pick up my pay check.

@Rhye What is your MSN?

hoho.

where's the dl link? where are you.

my MSN, as well as my other IM are written on the readme.

I'm online now and be going in less than one hour

Well I added your msn but I missed you. Damn :/

What's going on?

I think I might have missed it.

So how did yesterday's game go?

yeah I couldn't make it sorry. But is there a chance to have the updated MP version ? ;)

I'm sorry guys. I just moved into a dorm and they effed me on the internet connection. I can't connect form my room and, on top of that, their router went down on Friday and their tech guy was gone. So it wasn't fixed until today. What pissed me off most is that they wouldn't let me check out the router (which only needed a cable jiggled since it had come lose).

So... will multiplayer Rhye's be released soon? I'd really like to get a game going. :)

Multiplayer Mod of Rhye's? Excited about it.

I'm excited as well