I wanna hear from you who can devise a plan to finish the UHV of mali. Post it here.

Well gamers, try this strategy:

Found timbuktu SE of your starting spot. Let your 2nd settler move diagonally and your 3rd one straight up north. Move 2 skirmishers, one for each settler to protect them. The rest of the skirmishers guard timbuktu. The next turn, when the workers spawn, group them and build a road to the direction of the 2nd settler. Build a worker at timbuktu at the very start. Guess what? After 4 turns of the 2nd settler moving diagonally, you see iron!!!!! Now, build a city one tile to the north of this resource. When you meet Isabella, trade open borders, NOT DIVINE RIGHT!!!!! Your workers should be done with the first 1/4 of road. The next turn, settle your 3rd settler at a hill in the north near the sheeps. Don't forget to build workers in your cities just once, after that, switch to wealth.

When the road is done, connecting timbuktu to the 2nd city, mine iron, now. After that, when the workers in each city is finished, develop the countryside and the Ivory and the sheeps should be developed. Connect the 2nd city to the 3rd, and after that, build a workboat in your second city. This may sound crazy because there's no fish but you'll find out.

Optional: use worldbuilder and enable the calendar to know the year and to put pressure on you.

After the workboat is finished, explore europe. When you meet louis, william, elizabeth, that's the time you trade DIVING RIGHT. Trade it with elizabeth, then quickly trade it to william, then to loius and last, to isabella.

In this trade you would likely get fishing and other basic techs. You can also get 50 gold for divine right or maybe more.

Remember, this is just a strategy. Tell me if it works.

I mean, develop the countryside and building hamlets, etc.

I like Mali, I like Mansa. I only wish the UHV was possible, and TImbuktu didn't suck.

A couple of problems here:
1. You need fishing to build a work boat, so you can't trade for it unless you trade DR to Isabella first--you'd have to research it yourself.
2. Willem starts with DR.

Alternative: Build one scout on your 2nd city.

yeah, about that.....
Research sailing first before you turn off the research flasky thingy to O% or research fishing.

About Willem......
He traded DR to louis and elizabeth but they never trade it to anyone else. Not even to isabella or ragnar.

consider that the goals have changed to 4k and 16k since the latest patch

Oh, about that......
Rhye, pls. set a real amount of gold in the first UHV, or even in the special case of Mali..... can you put a CIV's money after or beside the stability rate? The first UHV is the hardest man, have mercy to us, players and fans of you mod.

A better idea!

How about you build the city NE of the iron for it not to lose population.

First 2 goals are manageable the third one is the tricky one now, i could not get civilservice&economics after the second goal so never could reach 16k. 4 cities working wealth i had 13k so maybe with grocer and banks it would be doable, gonna do a few more tries when i have the time.

So, you passed the first UHV?

How much money you have?

Do you really think that the 3rd one is impossible?

Yes? - I don't believe you. The first one is the hardest.

No? - I believe you. Pillage......... destroy.......... capture......... enemy cities.

I know this sounds impossible but once you have the mine and surpassed the first UHV, I did build units in my 2nd city because it has iron and after the first UHV is done, I researched once again and I developed the countryside.

It seems hard but i dont think its impossible, i had 2.8k gold.

So true but mine, I had 4k but still hard to achieve the third UHV. So many money.

Had you tried the capture, destroy, pillage strategy thingy? Well, the byzatines are at the collapse, I took advantage of it and built axemans and one by one, their cities fell because.......

THEY ONLY GUARD IT WITH ONE PIKEMAN which can be defeated by 2-3 units of axemans.

Nevertheless, I also siege some cities and I don't loot important cities but sometimes when your really pissed, I mean I, I burn down jerusalem and declared war to that saladin, an idiot AI who don't want to trade even resources, and captured his capital, burned it down.

Mali isn't impossible! Repeat!!!!!! MALI ISN'T IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!

You need to stay away from Arabia and Co. Only the christians shall be your buddies. Ademas, there is no need to rush for a road to iron, the first workers will cottage spam. The other cities will begin building other workers, slavery your friend

Riker, chill, it's only strategy. Even I never tested this anyhow. I finished Mali in other kind of way, THE WEIRD ONE.