This new feature in BTS where a message box pops up and says "The people of x rightfully ask to join the x empire" is very frustrating. I don't mind this idea as a game option but when it is the same pop up that asks you to build a bank or a library it is quite frustrating because you end up clicking on it by accident and giving your city away. :mad: This feature should be changed so that the default is no, and if you select yes there should be another message box asking you, "Are you sure you wish to liberate the city of x?"

I, personally, hate when "The people of x..." appears, and x is one of my original cities! :mad: :mad: :mad: Was this fixed in the 3.13 patch? I don't have it yet. All I know is that it has happened in 2 or 3 of my games. I have a pretty massive empire and a couple of my original cities that I founded will come at me with this message. They have no right!!!

you can turn if off go into options an turn off advisor pop ups, it's annyoing as i dont mind the other advisor pop ups like we want a library etc, but this one is a major stinker

I usually ignore those other suggestions anyway. Half the time, the AI is suggesting buildings that would corrupt my city specialization.

It actually seems to be worse with the patch. Since the patch, I've had this pop up show up several times on the same turn that I founded the city! Once when I hadn't even yet located the territory of the civ that the city wanted to join!!!

That's ridiculous! I haven't patched 3.13 yet for a number of reasons. There's another one.

IMHO, there should be a variable in the coding that checks if the AI asked you this question already for any given city. I'm tired of conquering a city in BC era and being asked every other turn in the Modern era for that same city to be liberated. It's been 2000 years people, get the freakin hint already.

I got tagged by this message once, but it helped me stop giving in automatically to the advisor's suggestions (as a previous poster said, the advisor seems to want to corrupt my specializations.) I tended to let the advisor do what it wanted anyway... to the detriment of my games. I quickly learned to pick the middle option by default.

So this message did a good thing for me and helped break me of a bad habit.

p.s. I didn't know I could turn off advisor pop ups. I'm doing that next!

You can safely ignore such requests when it's one of your own cities, but there are possible horrors lurking. (1) I've had cities asking to join civs which did not have the resources to keep them happy and healthy nor the techs to permit some of their buildings: (2) If you do give a city away, the other civ's borders expand and even more of your cities start asking to be given away: and (3) Worst of all, if you give conquered cities to a colony and then make peace with the civ whose cities you captured, the colony will give them back to their original owner and you can't stop this happening.
I think this is a very, very bad feature.

^^^That's horrible. I never knew point 2 or 3. I'm never liberating a city unless I liberate an entire colony (aka new civ)

I HATE THIS FEATURE.

I wish there was an option not for no popups, but an option FOR NO LIBERATION!

Im glad that i yell at the AI when i say no, it gives me a no-life pleasure

I think there should be a "never" option. We click that this particular pop up for this particular city should go away forever. Just how many times do I need to those morons that they are not breaking away?
This is particularly annoying when you have a tiny vassal whom has strong influence over a few of your border cities, and yet you cannot declare war and destroy him.

I agree it is annoying. I often get this after a city has flipped to me from cultural influence...

I agree it is annoying. I often get this after a city has flipped to me from cultural influence...

This seems to happen more with assal states (either colonies or civs that have capitulated to you). The mechanic seems to be broken. I sure hope that it is fixed in the next patch...if there is an next patch. As it is now, I simply do not vassalize civs, I just burn their cities to the ground instead. It is not very realistic, and contrary to my building and diplomacy model, but since the coders have managed to make this part of the game so sloppily, I have little other choice.

To sum it up, cities should NEVER ask to join a vassal. If the people in a vassal state get uppidy and revolt, that is one thing. A docile vassal that is firmly under your thumb should not have a hidden mechanic that asks for the majority of your cities to "liberate".

I have never noticed this problem because I always play with the adviser pop-ups turned off. Am I missing any actual useful information?

It is certainly annoying, but if you use it right you can cripple the AI's economy by giving up many cities.

Just turn off the advisor pop ups. True you lose the other (also unimportant) pop ups but then your game will run as normal without irritation

I have never noticed this problem because I always play with the adviser pop-ups turned off. Am I missing any actual useful information?

I don't think you miss anything important by turning the advisor off. I turned it off soon after BTS was released, for this reason, and I have not had any problems that would make me want to ever turn it back on.

I don't like this feature either. Kind of stupid. As soon as I build a city near x civilization I get that silly message. Who's idea was this?

I just started a new game the other day. MY closest city was only about 6 tiles away form the Portugese Capital. Our cultural borders were not even touching yet. I build a new city off my coast on a little island for some resources on it, and no sooner had I built it, then I got this message. The cultural radii were no where even close to each other. So rediculous!!!!!

This one's kind of annoying but I always click "Forget it! I'm the one in charge here!" by default on ALL those popups, so I haven't run into accidentally turning over a city. I get it a lot if I drop an early city down nearer to an opponent's capital than mine.

I have never noticed this problem because I always play with the adviser pop-ups turned off. Am I missing any actual useful information?

I think generally they are pretty obvious messages and sometimes counter productive, but occasionally you do forget to build a university as a priority in a city that has decent science. However with this new asking for city liberation pop up message, it tips the scales for me... and I will permanently turn off advisor pop-ups.

Ive never noticed this until i played in the emperor mode, where the human player is continually harassed. Whenever i conquered a city, it would start revolting to some weird random nearby civ which had nothing to do with the original owner of the city. that would happen even after building culture, 20% on culture, and thether etc on the city

soooooo lame