This is thread where players of Alleid countries from NES III will discuss the post-war world.

To allies:

I suggest an immediate technology study of Nucleur Weapons. Also, we should rename our alliance. Now, for war talks, I think our first target should be the French, as they pose a threat through terrorism against our innocent citizens. The Greeks have been weakoned, and maybe Russia should concentrate on them, while British and Germany, also with aid from the USA, should commence attack on French soil?

Agreed about the atom bomb, but before I continue...

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NES III - Separate Thread - POST-WWII PLANS ALLIES!

POST-WWII!

Oh ,well, I guess this shall do it, but I actually created this threat for Tehrean,Yalta, several, several...

Anyhow I suggest to finish off the enemy in Lybia, then please, help General Chugunov in Iraq! Are we the only ones who opposses them in Middle East?! Also I suggest that Russia, Germany and Hugnary will start preparing for Operation "Nomad", the mass invasion of European Greece.

I suggest that: Hugnary will invade towards Thesallonici, Germany towards Athens and Durres and Russia towards Cosntantinople.

LET'S START IN FRANCE.

This isthe main map which yo ucould use. Note, this is the political map, with not frontline marked.

Okay, now the black borders are the new borders or the areas that switched poccesioners outside of France Proper. Grey are the current political borders.

As you may see, France will loose a lot of it's territory, and will also be divided to the occupation zones.

Even more, I plan a new nation: Spain.

Also, Paris will be divided between Spain, Netherlands, Germany and UK.

Great idea, Russia, but i believe that the majority of the land should be British and German, seeing as I have lost more lives over this dispute, and it seems that France hostiles are aimed directly at me. Also, I am recruiting major armed forces from my colonies, seeing as I am second only to Russia in land size. I belive also that our allied nations should be more of allies. I definetly send Britiain greatest research and scientists to develop Allie technology, i.e. jets, Atomic bomb, and ICBM's. We should group up in Moscow, seeing as the European nations are unsafe from terrorism.
-Britain.

What about Greece?

I would like to aquire Serbia, Macedonia, Romania, Bosnia and Bulgaria. Possibly Thrace if things go well enough. As Hungary, I don't have many other options for expansion--I would hope that most of the resulting defeat of Greece would go to my Balkan gains. After all, I'm an ally, and the only other way for me to go is North.

I would suggest that Russia aquire Georgia and UK give up some land in Arabia. We should make the peace treaty acceptable, but still have them lose a good share of land.

As soon as the war in Greece is over I'll help in Libya and the Mediterranean islands. However, I want my Balkans.

Personally, I would like to see Greece's empire cut up into many different countries so this doesn't happen again.

Hungary:
I am sorry, but I don't know the reason for giving up British territory. I won't give anything up after the war that was mine before the war.

Germany:
I would like to see all the facist nations divided for now, until we can set up a new government for it's people.

To All allies
Form: Britain

Seing as losing a battle in the middle east would be devistating, I am preparing 10,000 british troops to aid Russian army in the region.

Okay, Your Majesty King William I Hannover-Windsor, but what exactly do you want.

Okay, now to discuss Greece. I agree with Germans. We left Greeks too strong after World War I. We should probably liberate soem of their ethnic minoriies, mostly Arabs so they will create theoir own states, and Greece's economical powerbase in Middle East must be taken away from them. After all, Greeko-Arab War in 1871-1879 was a war of Agression by Greeks, and they've conquered the remaidners of Arabs, that left after British conquest of Arabah. So first I will give you them main map on which you could make your suggestions, and then my own suggestion map, jsut like with France.

I believe that I should control the Greek Slavic lands in the Balkans. Hungarian, Serbian, Macedonian, Albanian, Croatian, Romanian, Bosnian and Bulgarian blood all runs close so that we should be able to live under the same roof of democracy.

The Arabic nations should most likely be divided up into Palestine, Syria and Iraq (I believe we have no Zionists in this game, correct?). Maybe we should let them keep Thrace and the Aegean coast of Anatolia, as a great deal of Greek citizens reside there, and create a new country around Ankara/Angora.

I maintain that Russia should only acquire Georgia. The Middle East has no Russian population or relation and as suggested should become their own independent democracies.

Oh really. Well first of all, Much of Coutnries have right for independence! Also Russians, Serbs, Bulgars and some more people belogn to the same ethnical group - Slavians.
But anyhow, here is my suggestion:

The Transylvanian area you claim holds large amounts of Hungarians.

I'm not about to make aggression against my allies, but unless you allow me my fair share in the Balkans I might have to. I won't attack my cousins in Macedonia and Bulgaria. The Slavic and Magyar populations of the Balkans should be put under one nation. A tinderbox only supports more war here.

NO. Slavic people in Balkans deserve freediom, but anyhow I did gave you a lot of land. Also, I don't want Transylvania.! I already offered it to you. I just want Romania, sicne RUssia has a historical and over 1000 Years Old claim (well, it does HISTORICALLY). Maybe we should merge Bulgrai and Macedonia to Slavonia? Also, I gave you much of Serbia, and all of Montenegro, and the Greek half of Transylvania. ANyhow, everyone, please place your offers on the maps! It's much easier to udnerstand it that way!

Okay, but let us think into the future. Ladies and Gentelmne, I fear of NATO. I know they are also alliance of democracy, or at least they are trying to do this, but I think that we should persuade them after the war to stop being such conservatists.

I am also afraid that their localization will lead to collapse of their democracy. So NATO is a possible Codl War opponent, but to win, we've got to persuade them to stop being such localized alliance.

Maybe I am wrong.

Other part is that we should reform League of Nations to somethign moe functionable - United Nations.

And finally, if UN fails, then the former Allies from now on are now Mutual Protection Pact of Eurasia (MPPE).

To All allies
I agree with Russia in the NATO conflict, but am still tumped on the solution. How should we try to bring them into the eastern world? Through trade? The longer we wait, the more powerful and the more of a threat they pose to our life. I also move to agree in the rename of the alliance to UN.

In the Middle East coflict, I believe the nations of Israel and Palestine should be formed, in which the muslims will hopefully migrate too in order to populate these lands. I offer British territories and Greek lands should be liberates. Here is the map of my proposol:

I beleive that Greece should be carved up even more than both of you suggested.

I however do not support the creation of Isreal, I feel it promotes zionism. We in Germany wish to keep our jewish minority IN GERMANY, not have them go into the middle east area. A large jew population in the middle east would only cause problems, much as if mass amounts of arabs started to move into Europe.

My proposed map:

I know, but Jews have the right for their own state. Even so, O think that if British will gain Palestine, they shoud allow Jewish immigration there as i'ts historical home of Jews, not Arabs. I also think that Israel should be liberated, if Britain agrees to and you should know that it's a sacrifice for us too. But it's the only way to find out can Arabs be trusted to be in peace.

Here is my new plan. I still think that Kurdistan is related to Russia as much as Georgia is. Also, Must I remidn you thtat we fought orethen anyone else in Mdidle East during this war, and Kurds supported Greeks, and resisted Chugunov. Also, you must rember, thqat Iraqi patriots have fought valiantely udner Al Armsah for Allied cause. Jews have the right for thir own state fi they want one. They were in over 3000 years of Galluth. And tjpse nations that want to call themselves democracies should ask their people, do they want Jewsh sttae. They should ask their Jews, do they deserve their state? I've asked my people, and they want Jews to have RIGHT FOR THEIR OWN STATE!

I can agree with your map for the most part. However, I do not want Judea to become a totally Jewish-run country. There can be encouraged immigration, but we should not turn it's government completely over to the Jews. Both the palestineans and jews should be able to co-exist in a secular government, with both cooperating in the running of the government. If there are any problems with the Palestineans rejecting the jewish immigrants, the whole deal should be dissolved.

I agree totally with Russia, the Jews may have their own state, and if they wish, take more British land. But it's not a 'Jew' state. It should be called whatever (I will use Israel for now) and let any immigration in. It should be that it is a FREE nation, a democracy if you will, and will have the people elect a president, whether he will be Jewish, American, Palestinian, Russian, who cares, it's who the people in that land want to rule their land.

Are the NATO countries allowed in here?

If so, I'd just like to ask das one OOC - how many divisions does each army size have roughly?

Anyway, back to the game, I'd like to offer USA help in the war on the Axis, especially France. I pledge three quarters of my army to this cause, and they are in Normandy.

Where would they be best placed, other than Normandy?

Roosevelt

Well, what I want to suggest is that it's Iyudah will have full freedom for everyone, but it will be proclaimed national homeland for Jews - it is already one for Arabs.

Other part is that Iraq fights for it's idnependence right now, and a lot of Iraqis joined the Russian Army duruing Chugonov's campaign.

Now, I would like a joint British-Russian-Iraqi operation in Middle East - Operation "Desert Storm".

Okay now there are several phases, activated by special codewords sent on main forum.

Phase 1: (Russia sends code) To Britain: I will trade you Oil for Ivory.: British forces invade Palestine and Hejjaz (Northwest Arabia).

Phase 2: (Britain sends code) To Russia: Oil-Ivory Trade Agreed. When will we start?: Russians and Iraqis invade Syria and link up with British in Lebanon.

Phase 3: (Russia sends code) To Britain: After three more months.: Joint Invasion southwards and northwards begins.

Do you agree?

Alaska is currently taking control over Sicily and french africa(with germany). Next step is cyprus. After that I´ll probably attack Spain.

The British government fully agrees to the terms of the Russians. British Navy, along with 120,000 men, the soul of the Britain army, are transported by sea to arive in Saudi Arabia in the Next days. After that, all we need is the anouncement.

Good. I also plan that after third messge, we hsould try to link up with "Tetris" Operation executor units to the north, while defeating remainders of Greks in Arabah (Kuwait and Arabian Peneisula), thus successfully grabbing away much of Greek Middle East.

Okay, now all we need is the message saying: "To Russia: Oil-Ivory Trade Agreed. When will we start?"

Okay, now a large map view on it .

Our suggestion for post-war map.

I agree with the map, but more palestinian territory should be added from British territory and Greek?

I don't believe France should be dismantled entirely. I'm willing to accept the proposal otherwise.

The French division makes little room for the ferocity of French nationalism. The revolts and casualties on the side of French rebels and allied occupants could be devastating. Instead, I suggest that Spain have its own border along the Pyrenees mountains, and that Brittainy and Burgundy be aquired by GB and Germany respectively.

It's not dismantele. It will be occupied for 5 years, until special elections will be held at UN, whether to wait 5 mroe years or not.

Oh and the light Green of Iraq will be soon repalced, but it was supposed to be Iraq between Turkey, Iyudea, Russia and Perisa.

I believe that I should control the Greek Slavic lands in the Balkans. Hungarian, Serbian, Macedonian, Albanian, Croatian, Romanian, Bosnian and Bulgarian blood all runs close so that we should be able to live under the same roof of democracy.

The Arabic nations should most likely be divided up into Palestine, Syria and Iraq (I believe we have no Zionists in this game, correct?). Maybe we should let them keep Thrace and the Aegean coast of Anatolia, as a great deal of Greek citizens reside there, and create a new country around Ankara/Angora.

I maintain that Russia should only acquire Georgia. The Middle East has no Russian population or relation and as suggested should become their own independent democracies.
Well romanians are not axacly slavic.

Well romanians are not axacly slavic.
WTF? How did you find this thread? It's 4 years old!!!

Please, try not to bump old threads.

Argh. NES Wars II: Attack of the Necromancers. This is the second one in... two days, I believe. What's up with them?

Argh. NES Wars II: Attack of the Necromancers. This is the second one in... two days, I believe. What's up with them?

A coincidence, that's the official statement. :yup:

ENES was necromanced without a coincidence. :smug:

This is lurking to the extreme.

Perhaps he has an extremely bad connection.

Perhaps he has an extremely bad connection.

1 Nanobyte connection.

Took him 4 years to submit his post.

Even the reason for necromancing this thread is wrong. If you are going to say one of those ethnicities is not Slavic, it would be the Hungarians. Also, while the Romanians speak a Romance language, I do believe that they are Slavs.

It is extremelly hard to say what, ethnically, the Romanians are. But IMHO they definitely aren't Slavs. They are a mix of a wide array of peoples - Dacians, Cumans, Vlachs, Magyars and inevitably Slavs as well, and there were many others as well.

I stand corrected.