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ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 08:04 AM Country: Brazil
Scenario: 1936
Tech Team Takeover: Yes
Full IC takeover: No
Difficulty: Normal/Normal
Goal: First: To unify South America under Brazil, Second: Steamroll everything else!
Ok, so this is my first attempt at doing a AAR, but that won't stop me! Now, to make this more interesting, I will make it interactive! Sort of. Your avatars can be interactive anyway.
What I will do is that I will mod you into the game, if you can provide me with a picture that is 96 by 96 pixels. Then just provide me with what kind of ingame representation you want: Military Leader, Minister or tech team, or any combination thereof. (Note that the picture has to be bmp).
We will also do this democratically, we will decide on a nation to play, and I'll mod the files, etc.
Note that I'll be playing HoI 2 Armageddon, so we have some extra options: Tech team takeover on annexation and full IC from non-national provinces.
My recomendation:
Country: Brazil (excellent expansion opportunities, assuming we can avoid being crushed by the Americans)
Settings: Normal/Normal, 1936, Tech team takeover (but not full IC (messes the game up too much)).
So, what do you think? Anyone interested?
Current roster:
SuperBeaverInc: Head panzer leader, Chief of Army and Minister of Security
Rhinemetall: Head panzer tech team and armaments minister
PrinceScamp: Head air marshal, chief of the Air force and Foreign Minister
Nodikus: Head Naval man, chief of the Navy and Head of Military Intelligence.
ArneHD: Head Commando leader, Head of State/Government and Chief of Staff.
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 20, 2007, 09:13 AM I'm interested.
Subi, the military leader
http://tinypic.ca/files/xjqk1q2sw3sq5m0h35c9.bmp
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 09:27 AM Right, your in. Any thoughts on skill and specialties?
Hitti-Litti Oct 20, 2007, 09:29 AM Can you assign pics to other nation leaders? I'd be so happy if that'd be possible!
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 20, 2007, 09:43 AM Right, your in. Any thoughts on skill and specialties?
Skill: 3
Traits: Panzer Leader, Offensive Doctrine
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 09:59 AM Can you assign pics to other nation leaders? I'd be so happy if that'd be possible!
Sure, want to be Finnish Head of State?
Ok Subi, you're a Brazilian Lt. General with Panzer leader and Offensive Doctrine.
PS: You could sign up as a doctrine tech team.
Hitti-Litti Oct 20, 2007, 10:39 AM ^^
No, I was just thinking something like Perfection as the leader of USA, Raisin Bran in Canada, Swedishguy in Sweden etc.
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 20, 2007, 10:58 AM Sure, want to be Finnish Head of State?
Ok Subi, you're a Brazilian Lt. General with Panzer leader and Offensive Doctrine.
PS: You could sign up as a doctrine tech team.
Sure, I'll be a doctrine tech team too. I'll figure out the traits when I get back to my home computer.
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 11:02 AM ^^
No, I was just thinking something like Perfection as the leader of USA, Raisin Bran in Canada, Swedishguy in Sweden etc.
I think we should save that for a CFC HoI game. Perhaps one when I am done with this one.
Rheinmetall Oct 20, 2007, 11:03 AM I'd like to get in even though I don't own HoI2. I'll be happy with any job involving tanks.
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 11:05 AM I'd like to get in even though I don't own HoI2. I'll be happy with any job involving tanks.
Can give you a job as a general of some sort with panzer leader, OR you could be a tank tech team OR you could be a pro-panzer minister, which will it be?
Oh, and what ideology should we get?
I'm thinking a free market oriented paternal autocrat. How about you?
Rheinmetall Oct 20, 2007, 11:14 AM I'll take the tank tech team. Will whip up an avatar shortly.
I will order my copy of HoI2 soon. ;)
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 11:19 AM I'll take the tank tech team. Will whip up an avatar shortly.
I will order my copy of HoI2 soon. ;)
Go for the anthology box, you get HoI 1, HoI 2, HoI 2 DD, HoI 2 Armageddon. And a medal!
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 20, 2007, 11:41 AM Go for the anthology box, you get HoI 1, HoI 2, HoI 2 DD, HoI 2 Armageddon. And a medal!
A shiny, shiny medal! :yeah:
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 12:05 PM With 4 skill points I don't think I will be using this one much
Muniz;T4400;4;1930;1970;aeronautics;technical_effi ciency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
More decent than the last one, but still not good
4401;CCNA;T4401;5;1930;1970;aeronautics;technical_ efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
As good as CCNA when researching tac, or CAS, worse on everything else
4402;CCNC;T4402;5;1930;1970;aeronautics;chemistry; electronics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
I might use this one for a few Industrial techs
4403;Companhia Siderúrgica Nacional;T4403;5;1930;1970;industrial_engineering; general_equipment;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;x
Not really that usefull
4404;Departamento Nacional da Produção Mineral;T4404;4;1930;1970;industrial_engineering;m anagement;mechanics;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
Decent, but not good naval tech team, probably my main in this area
4405;Ilha das Cobras;T4405;5;1930;1970;naval_engineering;technic al_efficiency;naval_artillery;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;x
I can use this, I suppose
4406;IPT;T4406;6;1930;1970;aeronautics;management; electronics;industrial_engineering;technical_effic iency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
Main for machine tools techs
4407;Organizacão Henrique Lage;T4407;6;1930;1970;industrial_engineering;mana gement;chemistry;naval_engineering;naval_artillery ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
Comes in too late to be very useful
4408;Eurico Gaspar Dutra;T4408;4;1940;1952;large_unit_tactics;central ized_execution;combined_arms_focus;training;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
This one is great for spearhead
4409;João Mascarenhas de Morais;T4409;4;1937;1954;small_unit_tactics;decent ralized_execution;combined_arms_focus;training;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
Not all that great, but I'll use him
4410;Aristides Guilhem;T4410;4;1930;1938;large_taskforce_tactics; centralized_execution;naval_training;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
Worse than the one above
4411;Brazilian Navy;T4411;3;1930;1970;small_taskforce_tactics;dec entralized_execution;naval_training;seamanship;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
4412;Salgado Filhõ;T4412;4;1930;1947;fighter_tactics;bomber_tac tics;aircraft_testing;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;x
Do I have a choice?
4413;Epaminondas dos Santos;T4413;4;1930;1945;fighter_tactics;decentral ized_execution;aircraft_testing;piloting;;;;;;;;;; ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
This one is the best tank researcher I have
4414;NMC;T4414;5;1945;1970;mechanics;electronics;t echnical_efficiency;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
Can someone say "Infantry"? Well, not for the first half of the game.
4415;Cordeiro de Farias ;T4415;6;1940;1964;artillery;general_equipment;man agement;training;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
I wish this guy was available sooner.
4416;Nero Moura;T4416;6;1943;1964;fighter_tactics;bomber_tac tics;aircraft_testing;piloting;centralized_executi on;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;x
What we really need is infantry, tank and, well lets be honest, just about everything, but infantry and tank are the most important (we are likely to be using a lot of infantry given that this is south America we are talking about).
Rheinmetall Oct 20, 2007, 12:12 PM http://koti.mbnet.fi/jatt/C96x96.bmp
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 12:19 PM http://koti.mbnet.fi/jatt/C96x96.bmp
Great, you're in. Hope you like Brazil.
I have decided on a tech team! Skill: 5 General Equipment, artillery, mechanics and training, for some BADLY needed early infantry techs. Fir myself that is. You can have Artillery, mechanics and technical efficiency at skill 5.
Hitti-Litti Oct 20, 2007, 02:36 PM http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3439/servomerellavu0.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=servomerellavu0.jpg)
Could you resize that, as my Photoshop is uninstalled, and my bro hasn't installed the new one yet? And make it the Finnish head of state, please. :)
I also have ideas for other nation leader photos... :mwaha:
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 02:44 PM http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3439/servomerellavu0.th.jpg (http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=servomerellavu0.jpg)
Could you resize that, as my Photoshop is uninstalled, and my bro hasn't installed the new one yet? And make it the Finnish head of state, please. :)
I also have ideas for other nation leader photos... :mwaha:
What kind of head of state?
List found here (http://www.paradoxian.org/hoi2wiki/index.php/Minister_Traits#Head_of_State).
Hitti-Litti Oct 20, 2007, 02:57 PM Popular Figurehead and Autocratic Charmer.
Charmer of course, can't you see the charm in his photo? :D
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 03:13 PM Ok, done. I made him a popular figurehead.
Edit: Anyway, we need some more people interested in Brazil, the nation we are playing, interested in joining Brazil in some manner?
Maniacal Oct 20, 2007, 03:24 PM PrinceScamp
Air Force
http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/Avatars/thAviator_Scamp4bmp.jpg
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 20, 2007, 03:27 PM General name Mascarenhas de Subi
Army name 1o Corpo 'Cobras Fumantes' (replace 1 with whichever corps number I am)
Skill 3
Traits Panzer Leader, Offensive Doctrine
Tech skill 6
Tech traits
Training
Combined Arms Focus
Small Unit Tactics
Decentralized Execution
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 04:14 PM Ok, modded you in. Really, Paradox made modding like this easy with the editor. Shame there isn't an SDK, well anyway, I gave you a tank division, and two mountain divisions for myself. And I gave two interceptors to Prince Scamp.
Edit: I think I'm signing off now, need my sleep after all. If you want to be in, post a clearly marked request in the style of SuperBeaver and put you in.
Maniacal Oct 20, 2007, 04:20 PM Since I don't have the game, I don't know what tech traits there are. But just give me something good for air force.
ArneHD Oct 20, 2007, 04:29 PM Since I don't have the game, I don't know what tech traits there are. But just give me something good for air force.
I have, suppose I'm not signing off just yet.
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 20, 2007, 04:34 PM Perhaps for PrinceScamp:
General name Falconeire do Scampo
Skill 3
Traits Superior Tactician
Tech skill 6
Tech traits
Piloting
Fighters Tactics
Bomber Tactics
Aircraft Testing
Rheinmetall Oct 20, 2007, 04:45 PM Great, you're in. Hope you like Brazil.
I have decided on a tech team! Skill: 5 General Equipment, artillery, mechanics and training, for some BADLY needed early infantry techs. Fir myself that is. You can have Artillery, mechanics and technical efficiency at skill 5.
Brazil sounds intersting considering it's 1936.
nodikus Oct 21, 2007, 12:28 AM I'll join too if you'll have me. I'll be an Admiral or a General. I don't have the game so i'm not sure about traits.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/5039/tdmovsmobius6ji9.png
Maniacal Oct 21, 2007, 12:45 AM Perhaps for PrinceScamp:
General name Falconeire do Scampo
Skill 3
Traits Superior Tactician
Tech skill 6
Tech traits
Piloting
Fighters Tactics
Bomber Tactics
Aircraft Testing
Awesome, thanks.
ArneHD Oct 21, 2007, 04:27 AM I got you in: PrinceScamp, you're superior tactician and tank buster.
Nodikus: you're an Admiral with superior tactician and spotter.
Anyway, we should get started soon, I'll make some ministers out of you (if you want), and perhaps rework some events and give us national provinces in all of South America (hey, were already cheating pretty heavily).
Edit: If anyone knows of any free, but more powerful than paint image manipulation software, please point me in that direction. I havn't got anything on this computer.
Edit2: never mind, I found a way around it, but it would be nice for future games of a similar sort. Anyway, unless someone objects we will be starting soon. Our goal is to UNITE SOUTH AMERICA UNDER OUR RULE (we have national provinces everywhere)!
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 21, 2007, 11:06 AM Edit: If anyone knows of any free, but more powerful than paint image manipulation software, please point me in that direction. I havn't got anything on this computer.
Try GIMP
http://gimp-win.sourceforge.net/stable.html
Sparrow55 Oct 21, 2007, 02:04 PM Well Id would like to join , but i don't have nor experience nor knowledge in HoI series :P
Captain2 Oct 21, 2007, 04:52 PM Raisin Bran in Canada
:(
*walks to his corner*
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Captain2/untitled-3.jpg
I can't think of anything not claimed so whats left?
Maniacal Oct 21, 2007, 06:44 PM Wait a second, Raisin Bran isn't Canadian, is he?
Captain2 Oct 21, 2007, 06:55 PM technically no, Quebecer :p
Maniacal Oct 21, 2007, 06:58 PM technically no, Quebecer :p
I rest my case.
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 21, 2007, 09:06 PM :(
*walks to his corner*
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y156/Captain2/untitled-3.jpg
I can't think of anything not claimed so whats left?
There is more than one general per nation you know. :p
ArneHD Oct 22, 2007, 12:57 AM Sure, besides, we need a good non-doctrine ship tech team, how would you like to design the latest and greatest within Brazilian ships?
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 22, 2007, 01:06 AM Naval Jarda Do Capitão has a nice ring to it
Maniacal Oct 22, 2007, 01:26 AM Naval Jarda Do Capitão has a nice ring to it
Jarda Do Capitão II
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 22, 2007, 01:38 AM Or Naval Jarda do Capitão Dois
Berrie Oct 22, 2007, 03:26 AM Really, Paradox made modding like this easy with the editor.
Uhm, you do know that the editor is broken? The savegames it produces, are in 90% of the cases corrupted. You have to do the modding manualy.
But if you succeed, I would like to participate. Make me an airforce leader. Preferably a tank buster and spotter with skill 3 (major general will do).
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/86042/flamingo3-avatar.png
EDIT: And if needed, I could also be an air doctrine tech team. Fighter tactics, Aircraft testing, piloting and decentralized execution
ArneHD Oct 22, 2007, 07:53 AM Uhm, you do know that the editor is broken? The savegames it produces, are in 90% of the cases corrupted. You have to do the modding manualy.
Hm, I've never had any problems with it, and, savegames? I unless you mean the saves produced by the game when I save, a problem I've never had, you are thinking of another editor.
Berrie Oct 22, 2007, 09:01 AM Hm, I've never had any problems with it, and, savegames? I unless you mean the saves produced by the game when I save, a problem I've never had, you are thinking of another editor.
I'm talking about the scenario editor that was introduced with Doomsday. There were lots of problems with it that never got fixed. Maybe they fixed it in Armageddon?
Look for example here (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=240241) and about the corrupted savefile here (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7483550&postcount=3).
But if it works for you, great!
Now, how about that position as an airforce leader? :p
P.S. I've seen you post on Paradoxplaza
ArneHD Oct 22, 2007, 09:10 AM I'm talking about the scenario editor that was introduced with Doomsday. There were lots of problems with it that never got fixed. Maybe they fixed it in Armageddon?
Look for example here (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=240241) and about the corrupted savefile here (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7483550&postcount=3).
But if it works for you, great!
Now, how about that position as an airforce leader? :p
P.S. I've seen you post on Paradoxplaza
Have a look here and take your pick:
Head of Government: Captain2, Popular Figurehead, Social Conservative
Head of State: ArneHD, Social liberal, Silent workhorse
Armaments minister:
Foreign Minister:
Head of Military Intelligence:
Minister of Security:
Chief of Staff:
Chief of Army: SuperBeaverInc., Armoured Spearhead Doctrine
Cheif of Air:
Chief of Navy:
Take your pick.
Oh and we need a Brazilian sounding name for Nodikus and myself.
OK, edit: ALL MINISTER POSTS NOW UP FOR GRABS Just say which one you want, also state type, if you want. If you don't I or someone else will chose for you. You can also choose ideology, again, if you want.
I will take Head of State as Silent workhorse!
Captain2 Oct 22, 2007, 03:56 PM I'll take Head of Government Popular Figurehead if nobody else has taken it
Social Conservative I believe
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 22, 2007, 04:33 PM Chief of Army; Armoured Spearhead Doctrine
ArneHD Oct 22, 2007, 04:34 PM I think we will start by tomorrow.
Berrie Oct 23, 2007, 04:00 AM Minister of Security, Man of the People or Compassionate Gentleman (which ever you can use the most)
nodikus Oct 23, 2007, 02:17 PM Chief of the Navy, Right wing. Don't know about traits.
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 24, 2007, 12:39 PM I think we will start by tomorrow.
:bump:
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ArneHD Oct 24, 2007, 01:31 PM :bump:
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Sorry, university work is taking a larger toll on me than expected. I'm going to get the last stuff done tonight, then I'll start tomorrow (as I'm off then). NOW however, I am going to take a break since I have a headache that is marginally more painful than having your nails ripped from your fingers (this actually happened to me once, but I suppressed the memory).
ArneHD Oct 25, 2007, 10:55 AM Beginnings
There is a storm on the horizon. That storm is Brazil. And Brazil has a target...
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/91446/BeginingAAR.jpg
Capitão II, the president of Brazil was tapping his fingers restlessly against the table. On all sides sat his ministers: Arne HD, his Prime Minister and Chief of Staff, Falconeire do Scampo (just Scampo for short) his Foreign Minister and Chief of the Air Force, Berrie his Minister of Armaments and Security, Mascarenhas de Subi (Subi for short) his Minister of Intelligence and Chief of the Army, and finally Nodikus his Chief of Naval Forces. MY ministers! he thought, I wonder just who holds sway over these men. He had a place in the cabinet, but he knew that to many he was just a popular man, a front, a figurehead, useful, but ultimately dispensable. They will have to learn just how capable and cunning I am.
Arne HD cleared his throat, "Next on the agenda is the position of Rhinemetall, specifically the Brazilian division. They have held an official stance of neutrality on the issue of the new government."
"Rhinemetall represents a threat. They cannot be relied on, most of them are still loyal to Germany! We should make sure that as many as possible take oaths of loyalty to Brazil." That was Berrie, the Minister of Security speaking, a friendly sort of fellow who keenly felt the need of the poor. But behind his sentimentality there lay a sharp mind, he knew full well that Rhinemetall could be essential to Brazilian economic progress.
"There is no need for haste in this," Said Arne HD "Rhinemetall will follow the money, they will not dare deliver a poor result to their German owners." Arne HD was a silent fellow, though thoroughly competent at his job. As chief of staff, he preferred to let the NCOs and other low level officers command troops, making sure that they were as highly trained as possible.
"Of course, it would be easy to put agents inside of the firm. I could replace the entire leadership within months if you give me the word." That was Subi, a master at industrial espionage, perhaps a natural affinity to mechanical things, as he never stopped boasting about the advantages of the tank. He had also taken quite a shine to Rhinemetall after they donated a large number of old tanks they had acquired. "Not that we could afford to loose them, some of their designs are fantastic! With them our military would be unstoppable!".
"Speaking of the military, what should we do about the... er... South Americanism? that is so popular?" said Arne. It was a difficult word, unfortunately there was none better. The depression and subsequent troubles had hit all of South America hard. In Brazil, it had resulted in a new government. "We should ride it, of course!" That was Scampo, an iron fisted brute at first sight, he was a major asset to the cabinet, having a much more cynical outlook on politics than the others around the table, not to mention his skill as Chief of the Air Force. "Our main target should be Argentina, they are our only real enemies in the area, with them gone, we can conquer all of South America, and beyond as well."
"If we are to look over seas, we will need a navy, something better and larger than the pitiful scrap metal that we call battleships today" That was Nodikus, a capable naval man and an excellent battleship commander, he had risen to power, partly as a result of his skill with ships, and partly due his friendship with Capitão II, with whom he shared a common past. Unfortunately, the tiny size of the Brazilian navy had not been fertile soil to grow a political career in. "We will be crushed from all sides if we do not develop our navy properly!"
"Our navy is not important now" said Subi, "What we need to do if we hope to expand is to take those nations that are down on their luck, and who are hungry for a change. I say we start with Paraguay and Uruguay, they are easy targets for our army." "They are also in an excellent position to attack Argentina" Mused Scampo, suddenly thoughtful "We could use them as staging areas". General murmurs of agreement were heard around the table.
"Right, then it is decided, we will acquire Paraguay and Uruguay as soon as possible." The voice was final, the session was over.
Out of Caracter: Uruguay has one VP province, that is also it's capital, flat. I'm sending our tank and our army in the area against it. Paraguay is a single province that is hills, perfect for our mountaineers and cavalry.
SuperBeaverInc. Oct 25, 2007, 01:34 PM Some more Brazilified names:
Nodikus de Souza
Arne Hernandes Dutra
Berrie Vargas
ArneHD Oct 25, 2007, 01:53 PM Some more Brazilified names:
Nodikus de Souza
Arne Hernandes Dutra
Berrie Vargas
Great thanks.
IronMan2055 Oct 25, 2007, 01:58 PM *Brazilian names*
Surnames:
Sousa
Albernaz
Viera
Mendes
Lima
Ramos
Correia
Pereira
Given name:
Alberto
Alexandre
Alfredo
Andre
Antonio
Benjamim
Carlos
Claudio
etc.
nodikus Oct 25, 2007, 02:47 PM Whats our ultimate goal? simply uniting SA further ambitions?
ArneHD Oct 25, 2007, 03:06 PM Whats our ultimate goal? simply uniting SA further ambitions?
South America, for now. After that, well I was thinking of taking on the Allies, then, the Germans, and if we are not too tired of this thing yet, we will take the soviet union as well
nodikus Oct 25, 2007, 04:18 PM World Domination huh? Ambitious, I like it.
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