Ploep suggested I create a thread for pics of buildings I've been creating for the WHFB mod. I'll put up in game shots as I finish the buildings/wonders. Please feel free to offer suggestions and also to put up links or pics of your own of buildings you think I should attempt for this mod. Good pics aren't real easy to find except from the WHO site which I frequent a lot. ;)

P_L - feel free to throw in your in game shots of anything you create here as well. I think we'd all like to see them in action.

First up, the Tribunal which is already in the game.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/Tribunal0000.JPG

Next, Bugman's Brewery which is also in the latest patch.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/Brew0000.JPG

And finally, the Bloodbowl stadium which Ploep hasn't added yet.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/BB0000.JPG

More to come as I'm currently working on a runesmithy model and have a dwarven temple ready to texture.

Colleges of Magic

The Celestial College:

Description: Wizards of theCelestial Order study the lore of the Heavens, or Astromancy, that lies under the province of the Wind of Azyr. The Buildings of the Celestial College lie close to the cntre of Altdorf, guarded from curiosity of passers-by by many cunning spells of concealment. It may come as a surprise to many, therefore, to discoverthat the towers of the Celestial COllege are the tallest of all buildings in the city, overlooking the temple of Sigmar and rising far above the Palace of the Princes of Altdorf. there are 16 of these tall, elegant towers, which is 4 times 4. 4 being the number of Azyr.

its about 1300 polygons, but i figured its a big wonder so, what the hey :D (if its a problem i can chop off a couple of towers to cut the count by a couple of hundred.)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/celestial_College.jpg
http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/celestial_College2.jpg

Heres the link: CELESTIAL COLLEGE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Celestial_College.zip)

The Amethyst College:

Description: The wizards of the Amethyst order study the Lore of Death, which some call Necromancy or Spirit Lore, which lies under the province of the Wind of Shyish.The college buildingof the Amethys order is Dark and Sepulchral, Shutteres against the light and dimly illuminated even at the dead of night. its Domed towers are the abode of bats and its cellars crawl with verminouscreatures. the Buildign overlooks the misty Cemetary of Old Altdorf where thousands were hastily interred after the devastation of the Red Plague. Though the citizens of Altdorf are fully aware of where it is, none trouble the Wizards of the Amethyst Order.

this one is also around 1350 pixles.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Amethyst_College.jpg

Here is the link: AMETHYST COLLEGE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Amethyst_College.zip)

The Jade College

Description: Wizards of the jade order study the Lore of Life, the Wind of Ghyran. The Jade college is the centre of the order, but few wizards abide there , and even those who would learn the Lore of Life are likely to do so under the stars. Within the city of Altdorf itself, the college takes the form of a walled enclosure, plain and unimposing to the outside world, yet hidden within is a living College of trees whos boughs form the beams and bridges and pillars of mighty halls. Amongst the glades of this hidden world are numerous pools and streams where running water pours into a wonderous silver lake.

this one is also around 1000 pixles. Im workign on the water, so i might upload another version later :p

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/jade_College.jpg

Here is the link: JADE COLLEGE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Jade_College.rar)

The Amber College

Description: Wizards of the Amber order study the Lore of Beasts that lies under the province of the wind of Ghur. Of all the Orders of wizardry, the Amber college is the only one which has no buildings or representation within Altdorf. Instead the Masters of the Order inhabit a number of caves that lie beyond the city amongst the Amber Hills, which are named after them. these are rocky and wooded, unsuitable for agriculture or other purposes. these refuges are not easily found and visitors are not welcomed.

again this one is around 1000 polys. mainly from the trees.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Amber_College.jpg

Here is the Link: AMBER COLLEGE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Amber_College.zip)


Resources

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/new_resources.jpg

the tall eggy one is the Eerie, The low eggy one is the Breeding Ground, and the one that looks like a bunch of red things is the Mushrooms :D

Mushrooms

Heres the link: MUSHROOMS (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Mushrooms.zip)

Breeding Grounds

Heres the link: BREEDING GROUNDS (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Breeding_Grounds.zip)

Eerie

Heres the link: EERIE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Eerie.zip)

Thanks P_L.

Yeah, the orc cityset was done by myself and winddelay. We're almost done with it finally.

I'm happy with Chamaedry's Orctents but I might use it for the Ogrelords once it's done:)

yeh, they suit Ogres better than the orc tents (they are bigger ;)) (oh, that reminds me ploe, Ogres have no city art in the game :confused:)

very very nice :)

The orc (Ogre) cityset is done. It looks much better as a large city than this screenie depicts.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/Orc60000.JPG

Nice! I'll grab it at once.

Thanks.

Any suggestions for what shadow to put onto this Runesmithy?

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/RS0000.JPG

Looks absolutly great! No idea what shadow would fit though. But doesn't really matter they're all simple planes.:crazyeye:
you can send it without and I'll look into it;)

Ok. I'll send it when I get home from work unless I feel ambitious and attach something to it prior.

Here's (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7454) a shadow version of the Runesmithy. 2 nifs included.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/Runes0000.JPG

Thx. downloaded:)

A Dwarven Vault (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7473), idea borrowed from WHO.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/DeV0000.JPG

thats my favourite one yet :) just a question, do you know how to put effects onto buildings? like flame effects, or reflective surfaces like on metals?, or just freaky twisty lights? im trying to make a mage guild and want to add some effects :)

thats my favourite one yet :) just a question, do you know how to put effects onto buildings? like flame effects, or reflective surfaces like on metals?, or just freaky twisty lights? im trying to make a mage guild and want to add some effects :)

Thanks. I like how it turned out as well.

I've never done effects myself, but Ploeper was going to try to mess with glowmaps eventually so hopefully that will work. Also, Rabbit might have covered this in his nif tutorials. Maybe.

I'll ask winddelay if he knows how if the other options don't pan out.

cool :D ta

I found a pic of a Cold Ones Corral last night and whipped this up.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/COC.jpg

I've since misplaced the link to the pic. :( Does this need a door or won't it matter once it's in game, if it makes it into the game?

very good. suits the DE style nicely :) i dont think a door is necessary, but you can add on if you relaly wont to :)

Yep that will be useful!:)

Would be nifty slave pen as well for Amazons, DE etc

Very nice job as well :D

Would be nifty slave pen as well for Amazons, DE etc

Very nice job as well :D

If you have ideas for attachments or modifications let me know. I don't mind re-using models.

Ok, well ive finally redone my woodelf city art's textures and most modles

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/WE_city_set_teaser.jpg

however the three buildings that have trees arevery high polys, ~800 polys, whereas all the others are between 100 and 400 polys. does anyone know how to get normal trees from civ into the city set, like Hrochland's elf city set? (or can we just blend his and mine when i get it into the game?)

im also having trouble applying a dds texture to the modles, it comes up with an "error creating Direct 3D Device" message.
any ideas :confused:

They look nice P_L. Why are the tree buildings so high poly? I don't think you can blend city art since they need to use the same dds file.

That error sounds like what I have on my laptop, something to do with Vista I think...

oh no, i have vista ... how did you fix it?

the trees have such high poly because i forgot to give them an extended base, so i extruded the edges without realising it would also extrude all the hidden useless edges too :( ill end up making more, lower poly ones later i think, once i know how to do this whole city art thing ;)

oh no, i have vista ... how did you fix it?

Good question. So far there isn't a fix that I know of for max 7 and Vista. I simply model on my older computer and use the laptop for texturing. Pain in the ass, but it works until someone posts a fix.

bugger :( i guess im not meant to ever finish this city set :(

It's just attaching the dds to the unwrapped models. If you have it textured correctly someone else can most likely help out.

hmmm, ok, ill check in the graphics forums, thanks :)

I was bored today so i decided to make some modles for resources that i want:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/new_resources.jpg

the tall eggy one is the Eerie, The low eggy one is the Breeding Ground, and the one that looks like a bunch of red things is the Mushrooms :D

(obviously i dont have dds files for these either, so i cant upload the files, but im working on finding someone to help out with that now ;) )

so what do you think?

I think they look good P_L. :goodjob:

Fantastic stuff PL! I really hope you can get your comp to work with max properly. Maybe the best solution is to install win xp as secondary OS at least that's definitly what I will do as soon I get my new machine. What for do you need Vista anyway?
I'm not sure I want to put eggs as ressource. That seems to be good for more types of lairs though!

Woot ! All i need for the map: mushrooms as a food ressource for the greenskins (right now i'v put toads for them to represent some sort of squig food ...) and eggs for the monster/cold ones.

Moreover i need smoke tiles that doesn't break into fire x turn later but stay there as smoke.

im glad you all like :)

the eggs thing was my idea of being a requirement for all bestial units. those that fly require and eerie (griffon, terradons, Dragons etc) , those that walk require the breeding grounds (hydra, stegadon, Kroxigor, coldones etc) but they would also work as lairs, perhaps even as a special resource generated by lizardmen units/buildings? that boosts lizardman unit production? (just ideas)

i still have my old laptop that i might be able to get working with Max as a last resort (i really dont want to have to go through the painful process of transfering data between computers.)
i got vista because it was the only opperating system they would sell me :( and i desperately needed a new comp. i might look into installing XP as a secondary OS.

Ok I will add those three as ressources once I get the gfx.


Moreover i need smoke tiles that doesn't break into fire x turn later but stay there as smoke.
May I ask what for?

Just for "cosmetic" in places like the "smoking caves of Sotek" ,to add some flavor to the darklands and to represent some world edges mountains volcanoes that won't blow away the poor dwarves city at turn 2 ;).

Speaking of terrains, i remember that in the Civ III warhammer mod they had jungle and swamps that had a chance of killing (from disease) units that stood on them (exept undeads and LM). I think that would be fun to add a "lustrian jungle" terrain with the same effect. A moving isles terrain (having a chance of killing any boat unit on it exept asur ships) would be also neat. But this is not a priority i know.

The mamoth ressource from ffh ice age would be really nice (moreover the model is pretty) and a "wolf" ressource would be appreciated. For the eggs, perhaps only one as a ressource and the other one a lair ?

i like the idea of a 'dense jungle' or whatever casuing disease (the promotion) in units. and the mammoth would be nice too ;)

Do we need a new city art texture for the dark elfs, I always thought that they make something that look like spires and all that sorts of stuff.

i believe Hrochland is working on a Darkelf City set

I grabbed this pic from the WH online site and made the model that winddelay textured for me. I think it looks amazing. Since I can't do thumbs for some reason here are some BIG pics. The top is the original and the bottom is my model.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/CA0707_20.jpg

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/sideview.jpg

WOW... thats all im going to say... absolutely beautiful Woodelf one of the best looking building i have ever seen for civ 4 and absolute masterpiece :D

Thanks Masada. winddelay said :wow: about my model and I said :wow: about his texture. It still needs a shadow before I upload it though.

it took me a while to spot the difference between the two, it magnificent woodelf, i agree that it is by far the best building in all of civ, (including Vanilla) you put me to shame :p

guess whats going to be replacing the Shrine of Salvation wonder :mischief:

Very impressive, woodelf ! I believe this can be a base for Believers HQ ( not palace! ) as well.

Here is a church sigmar himself would have been proud of :goodjob:

lol i dont think Sigmar would have approved of having a church built of himself... he was after all a mortal... and it was only after his death that people began to build statues of him :P

Fanatastic work woodelf and windelay! That church rocks!

Thanks guys. I'm still waiting on winddelay to shadow it before uploading it. Plus I'm playing Shadow so modeling is taking a back seat for a month or so. :D

Finally uploaded the Cold Ones corral (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7659).

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/COCorral0000.JPG

Eventually I'll get the shadow on the model above.

Here's the Dwarven building without shadow in game.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/DP0000.JPG

Once I beg winddelay to put a shadow on it I'll get it uploaded.

Thx. downloaded the corral, looks perfect. The sigmar temple is for the Empire(humans) not dwarves;)

:lol:

winddelay labeled it Dwarf Palace because we're working on a dwarven cityset. :p

Woodelf those are beautiful :D

Here it finally is, the Sigmar Temple (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7685).

Here's a dwarven cityset winddelay and I created for Dragonia II.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/dwarfcitytest.jpg

Excelent work! :thumbsup:

wow.....i really like the cold ones corral. we dont have a model for an actual cold one do we?

I'm not aware of a cold one model yet.

Here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7697) is the dwarven cityset file.

I'll be...

I think this WHFB-mod should be a reason big enough for me to buy civ4... :)

What!? is that aaglo? the great anti-civ-4ist contemplating turning to t he dark side :D;)

Oh, no - I'm not that anti-civ-4ist. I'm just against the graphic format of the game... and mainly so because I can't do jack to help the civ4-community :(

;)

lol fair enough :p Civ 3 was so much easyer to mod :(

dont worry Aaglo we all know they could have made life easier for everyone by doing this and that... but its Firaxis we love them even when they do screw up... :lol: (well at least i still do...)

I love "borrowing" your building models aaglo for inspiration. I still need to find another copy of C3C so I can play WH in CivIII again.

its always nice to see another orc and gobbo supporter aaglo. Death to da 'oomies! waaagh!

*good thing im not a oomie :p "Woodelves forever!!!"

Oh, wez gonna gets youz skinny elveses after da oomies! could you just come outta yer big scary forest fer a minuite? we have cake!

i still occasionally play the civ 3 warhammer mod. those were simpler, non-3d times....

Wooden elf iz dumb, dey call demselfes wooden, but dey are not made of wuud. Dey is silly. :)

Oh, no - I'm not that anti-civ-4ist. I'm just against the graphic format of the game... and mainly so because I can't do jack to help the civ4-community :(

;)

Your civ3 models continue to amaze me. I really hope one day you change your mind and try your hand on nifs. I'd be happy to help with any trouble you might have with this format.

Your civ3 models continue to amaze me. I really hope one day you change your mind and try your hand on nifs. I'd be happy to help with any trouble you might have with this format.

Amen to that :D

Eh.... thanks :)

Nifs? What are they?
My modelling skills are totally useless for civ4, because I use pov-ray to make my units. And pov-ray uses completely different 3d-method than most other programs. I won't go into further details, but I assure you - my models cannot be converted to civ4.... :(

We use Blender or 3DSMax to modle and Paint or GIMP to render them, then we export the files through a thing called a Nif Viewer (Nifs are the graphics files the the Civ 4 game reads i think)

whats pov ray?

POV Ray = Persistance of Vision Raytracer -> http://www.povray.org/

Eh.... thanks :)

Nifs? What are they?
My modelling skills are totally useless for civ4, because I use pov-ray to make my units. And pov-ray uses completely different 3d-method than most other programs. I won't go into further details, but I assure you - my models cannot be converted to civ4.... :(
Yes that seems unlikely. In order to mod civ4 you either have to use Blender(that's free btw) or 3DS max. Animations can only be done in max atm. But many existing animations can be reused if you keep similar bonestructures for new models(it's normally not necessary to create a new animation for a new biped, also some machines can use existing animations i.e. our empire steamtank uses the default animations for the tank in civ4).
Both programs have plugins available that can convert files to nifformat which is what the civengine(gamebryo) can read.

Edit: I have no idea how pov works btw. But as long as it involves modeling 3D objects your skills should be portable even if the fileformat isn't.

Here is another of my Buildings, The Celestial College (based on the image o got for the button)

its about 1300 polygons, but i figured its a big wonder so, what the hey :D (if its a problem i can chop off a couple of towers to cut the count by a couple of hundred.)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/celestial_College.jpg

Ive figured out how to get DDS textures to work on my comp (FIANLLY) so im pretty sure im able to put my work into Civ now :D ill practice on this one :p, then all get all my old stuff finished well and proper :D

EDIT: It works :D ill post a link tomorrow :p

This looks great PL!

Terrific looking stuff P_L.

Care to PM me how you got Vista and Max 7 to allow dds mapping?

Heres the link to my CELESTIAL COLLEGE (http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Warhammer.zip)

nice model PH

Here is my attempt at the Amethyst College:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Amethyst_College.jpg

Im not terribly happy with the texture job of the main building (the hill and graves i think are fine, but i dont really like the purple) what is everyone elses opinion? suggestions?

Far be it for me to ever criticize someone else's texture, but it seems blurry P_L. The main roofing is fine, but the brighter purple needs something, maybe a slate style that's colored purple?

The windows are also fuzzy, but the more I look at them that isn't a huge issue. I like the model a lot. :goodjob:

Hows this:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Amethyst_College.jpg

imuch prefer it without the fluro green windows, and your right that it was very blurry. the slate style is much better i think.

Much better P_L. This is a keeper. ;)

cool. i put the link in my first post :p

Nice work on the Amethyst College. :goodjob:

Thanks Darque :)

wow that looks amazing! i think its fine that the model is so big, these colleges are a big deal in the warhammer world.

Thanks Slaanesh :) they will be in the next patch for the Spell Mod.

(but im going away for 9 days to Tasmania on Holiday :D, so i wont be here to do any modding then. :( )

Heres a preview of the jade College

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Jade_College.jpg

there will be a circular lake surrounding the base of the trees, and im going to play around with transparencies on the leaves :)

Nice one PH

I like the looks of that one P_L. Leaves and transparencies always boggled me so I wish you luck.

The Erythnul Temple (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=7786) from Dragonia II.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/32561/Erythnul0000.JPG

which building do you thuink we should use that for woodelf? one of the colleges?

It's high poly so definitely a Wonder.

Excelent work on that one woodelf :D

if you can add a large flame effect the the red glob in the midle of the stadium, and add flames o nthe top of the pillars it would make a nice Bright College :)

The Jade College

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/jade_College.jpg

See my first post for the link

Great work on the Jade College, PL :goodjob:

Thanks Darque :)

The Amber College

again this one is around 1000 polys. mainly from the trees.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/71834/Amber_College.jpg

link in my first post

I also added descriptions of each college.

Great job P_L. Good to see that you figured out transparencies. :thumbsup:

well, ive sussed out transparencies on trees fine, but now im struggling with transparencies on scratch built modles. im trying to do the Ligth College, which is a white pyramid. it is supposed to be semi transparent with glowing orbs floating inside, but i cant get the transparencies right :(