I think sometime your civilization's leader should appear at the historically correct time in RFC as unit. What do you think of this feature?:nuke:

wel, considering that the mod is done.......

Wow, I'd have a Gandhi unit! Or a very powerful Victoria one... Really, how could we forget about such a wonderful possibility?

Wow, I'd have a Gandhi unit! Or a very powerful Victoria one... Really, how could we forget about such a wonderful possibility?

Ahem, Gandhi isn't the Indian leader in RFC.:p

Could open the path to a regicide game.

Ahem, Gandhi isn't the Indian leader in RFC.
damn... I would have gone nuts fighting with Gandhi in the jungle!

Here are the RFC leaders for those who don't know.

Egypt/Ramses II
India/Asoka
China/Qin Shi Huang
Babylon/Hammurabi
Greece/Pericles
Persia/Cyrus
Carthage/Hannibal
Rome/Augustus Caesar
Japan/Tokugawa
Ethiopia/Zara Yaqob
Maya/Pacal II
Vikings/Ragnar
Arabia/Saladin
Khmer/Suryavarman II
Spain/Isabella
France/Loius XIV
England/Victoria
Germany/Bismarck
Russia/Stalin
Netherlands/Willem van Oranje
Portugal/Joao II
Inca/Huayna Capac
Mongolia/Genghis Khan
Aztec/Montezuma
Turkey/Mehmed II
America/????? (I don't know)

America is Washington

Edit- Wait a mintue......Don't the leaders change over time?

They do.

And seriously, what is the point of that whole idea? I mean...why?!

All the civs have all their leaders, except Hatshepsut.

I think there's no need to be exactly the same leader we have in RFC. For example:

Greece - Alexander The Great, spawns ~330BC.
Japan - Oda Nobunaga, spaws at ~1550AD.
Portugal - Sebastian of Portugal - ~1570AD.
France - Joan of Arc - ~1430AD.
Russia - Vassili Zaitsev :eek: - ~ 1940AD.
Spain - Christopher Columbus - ~1490AD.

And so on. (could someone help me with other examples?)

Most of then would spawn as a Great General. Except people like Columbus. I think he would born as a Great Merchant, or as a fleet of Ships after discovery of... Navigation? This is intended to avoid Columbus spawning after America is already colonized. :mischief:

Christopher Columbus was Italian dude...

Christopher Columbus was Italian dude...

Yeah, sure...
But there's no Italian Empire in RFC, right?
And what if Isabella didn't help Columbus? Would he build a fleet of ships with his own hands and reach America by himself? I don't think so. :lol:

Yes, I just wanted to be sure. Here in Spain they have festivities around Columbus and they all believe he was Spanish.
In Genoa we have a fake Columbus home, btw...

Riker,

According to History, Alexander the Great was born under the Babylon Empire. Although he was son of Philip II of Macedon. :crazyeye:
IMO, he's much more likely to spawn as a Greek leader, for obvious reasons.
The same with Columbus. ;)

wait, before we dive in.....why?

I dont know whether to laugh or cry...

Christopher Columbus was Italian dude...

Oh, there are many theories which nationality he was. There was even a version that he was a Jew. I wonder that Russia didn't lay any claims on Columbus' nationality yet...

Ahem, Gandhi isn't the Indian leader in RFC.

Yes, leaders change over time. Ghandi replaces Asoka in 1700 AD.

I wonder that Russia didn't lay any claims on Columbus' nationality yet...

In Poland when USSR existed we had a joke that the guy who discovered America wasn't Kolumb (Columbus) but Soviet explorer- Kola Umb (I don't know Russian and never saw this joke wrote so I could misspelled). The most famous mathematician was also Soviet- Pietia Goras. :P

wait, before we dive in.....why?

Because we all love GP (specially G. General!) :p

Actually it's quite frustrating to see Joan of Arc born in Kyoto, Moses born in China, etc.

Rhye could think about giving unique names to Great People of each Empire. It would take a lot of time to get all those names... (God bless Wikipedia builders!!). But Rhye, come on... is it possible?
For example: William Shakespeare (Great Artist) would born only in England, not in Spain or in India. :cry:
Since nobody tries to get 20 Great Artists during a game, all we got to do is search for about 8 Great Artists real names for each empire (IMO, it's quite easy, nobody needs to go a library). The same with all the other great people.
What do you think about that, folks?

If Rhye tells me He is able to do that, I'd start searching for names.

Rhye could think about giving unique names to Great People of each Empire.

Gaius Octavius' mod component already does this: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=199344

i think he is avoiding that due to the translation issues...?

Gaius Octavius' mod component already does this: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=199344

Wow!! This is exactly what I was looking for!!
Can Rhye incorporate this to RFC?

Some miscellaneous remarks:
This mod may be freely distributed and incorporated into other mods, provided that the author is given credit for its original inspiration and implementation. It was, after all, very time-consuming to look up all those names.:goodjob:

Wow!! This is exactly what I was looking for!!
Can Rhye incorporate this to RFC?

Some miscellaneous remarks:
This mod may be freely distributed and incorporated into other mods, provided that the author is given credit for its original inspiration and implementation. It was, after all, very time-consuming to look up all those names.:goodjob:

I doubt he will due to exactly what Mowque said about translations. After all no one has done the translations for the German dynamic Civ names.

I doubt he will due to exactly what Mowque said about translations. After all no one has done the translations for the German dynamic Civ names.

For GP names translation, it's not necessary to find a German translator, since we can use Wikipedia.

Example:
Alexander the Great (English)
Alexander der Große (German) Here (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_der_Gro%C3%9Fe)
Alexandre le Grand (French) Here (http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandre_le_Grand)
Alejandro Magno (Spanish) Here (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_Magno)

And so on... Just search for a name and click on the left menu (of Wikipedia) to redirect it to the language you want. :cool:

Didn't we have a tread like this last year?

and i think it was becuase wikipedia (as much as we love it) isn't perfect? i'll ask Rhye.....

In Poland when USSR existed we had a joke that the guy who discovered America wasn't Kolumb (Columbus) but Soviet explorer- Kola Umb (I don't know Russian and never saw this joke wrote so I could misspelled). The most famous mathematician was also Soviet- Pietia Goras. :P

Well, AFAIK it was Amerigo Vespucci to first explore the American continent, and unlike Colombo, he realized he was exploring a new continent and not Catay, so I would think it's more correct to say it was him to "discover" America (which took his name).
Btw, if Isabella wouldn't have helped Colombo, someone else would have had, so it isn't a good idea to make Colombo or Vespucci spanish (btw, there are no theories whatsoever about their nationalities), just use someone else, there have been real spanish explorers throughout history, you know.

I'd rather see a real leader unit. If you leader gets kill, it could do a lot of damage to your stability. It will be hard to implement this, becuase you might have to learn the AI to use it.

I would think it's more correct to say it was him to "discover" America (which took his name).

He discovered that land discovered by Columbus is not India.

someone else would have had

No one other did. If Armstrong wouldn't land on the moon someone eventually would. But he did, so he is the first. And Columbus should be represented by (or better- represent :P ) Spain.

If you want to see explorers by nationality: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_explorers