Welcome to the next Warlords SGOTM
Gyathaar's Mystery Game

Gyathaar is playing this one close to his chest. So far, we know only that it is Prince, Always War, Any victory condition allowed, Epic, Standard size. There's no start position map yet, I'll add it as soon as it's available.

Versions
This game will be played in Warlords Version 2.13 only. Sorry, no Mac players unless Aspyr get their act together in time :(

It will be played using the current version of the HoF Mod. This is version 2.13.002 for Windows. You will need to ensure that you can run the Asset Checker v2 before you attempt to load this game. Typlically, players who have upgraded to Beyond the Sword will have the right assets. Alternatively, you should be able to make your installation compliant by installing the new .DLLs released for WOTM 15 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=251044). If you have a Steam installation then you will need to look at this post by ArcadicGamer for inspiration.

If later versions of Warlords or the HoF Mod are released they cannot be used for this game.

Sign up
The game will start on December 14th. I recommend you plan for a 4 month deadline for completion.

Please post in this thread if you wish to join a team and take part in the competition. The information required to place you in a suitable team is as follows:-


Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before?
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
Do you have a group of players you want to play with?


Starting Position

TBA

Notes

Please visit the Civ4 SGOTM reference thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=168439) to check out the rules and procedures to ensure that you are adequately prepared for this game.

Warlords v.2.13 is supported for this SGOTM. No other versions can be used, and you will have to stick with the same version throughout the game.

Teams will compete for up to four awards - the Gold, Silver and Bronze Laurels for the fastest finishes, and the Wooden Spoons for the lowest scoring finisher. The number of awards may be reduced, depending on the number of teams who sign up.

Awards will be given to teams who win in the least turns.

All saved game files uploaded to the server are parsed through software that extracts and archives data about your save, including reload count for each turn set.

Spoiler information will absolutely NOT be tolerated in this thread.


Please sign up here, now, for this mystery tour of the World of Warlords.

Oooh yes, I'm in I'm in! :D


Emperor
Yes
Yes
Team Smurkz if we can get enough players (though we are always glad to accept new additions :)).
Umm, maybe this option should be removed if Mac players are out of luck anyway?

Thank You!

1. Settler/Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Gypsy Kings of course
5. Ditto Niklas

Please include me as well! :D

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. XTeam please. :hammer:
5. What's a Mac? :mischief:

Hmm i think i'll join for my 1st gotm
1. Emperor
2. No(Proably going to try gotm 25)
3. No
4. I'll be joining the Gypsy Kings
5. XP

Please sign this kiwi up!

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. No - this would be my first sgotm
4. XTeam

4. XTeam please. :hammer:

5. What's a Mac? :mischief:

It runs the OS your team was named for ;) And it's the only hardware on the planet that will run *every* great desktop OS legitimately. But I guess you knew that already :D
[/OS wars mode]

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Warlords ;)
Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before?
No
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
Yes
Do you have a group of players you want to play with?
Team Geezers
Please state if you wish to play in OS X on a Mac. If so you will have to join a Mac-only team.
Win XP rules :p

It runs the OS your team was named for ;) And it's the only hardware on the planet that will run *every* great desktop OS legitimately. But I guess you knew that already :D
[/OS wars mode]
:lol: :lol: :lol:

:xmascheers:

:xmassign:

Please count me in.

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Hmm. I used to say Monarch. Now more like Prince. I'm regressing.

Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before?
Oh yes.

Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
(Checks for scars) Yes. SGOTM05.

Do you have a group of players you want to play with?
Team Geezers (we have previous :twitch: )

1. Immortal
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Murky Waters

[1]Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
[2]Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before?
[3]Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
[4]Do you have a group of players you want to play with?

1) Monarch
2) No
3) The massive LK series SGs plus some SGTOM
4) The Real Ms. Beyond

1. Monarch
2. No
3. Both
4. The Real Ms. Beyond

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? Monarch (you'd think I would have made some progress by now ... :blush: )
Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before? Of course! ;)
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? Yes, for better AND worse :lol:
Do you have a group of players you want to play with? Who else ... Gypsy :king: s

dV

1. Emporer
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Chokonuts of course.

I'm here, i'm here. Some doubt about it?

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Chieftain (Settler is copyrighted by Gosha)
Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before?
Yes, long time ago (see my complaints in pre-GotM 25)
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
Since the 2nd one
Do you have a group of players you want to play with?
call us a group if you want, but we are a team: FIFTH ELEMENT
still, i'm afraid we'll have some defection due to Warlords, let's wait and see.

And thanks for have started this thread.

.)Monarch
.)Yes
.)Yes
.)The Real Ms. Beyond

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Currently in a game.
4. Geezers cause they're not picky.

Yes, long time ago (see my complaints in pre-GotM 25)
But don't eat too much, otherwise you'll spoil your appetite for the complaints you get when our start position is tundra, with no metals nearby ;)

I've forgotten the questions... my guess is:
Monarch/Emp, yes, yes, 5th Element.

It runs the OS your team was named for ;) And it's the only hardware on the planet that will run *every* great desktop OS legitimately. But I guess you knew that already :D
[/OS wars mode]

We were named after something :confused:

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? Monarch
Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before? Yes
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? Yes
Do you have a group of players you want to play with? Xteam (as a player not a lurker this time)

1. Monarch in Warlords (only noble in BTS :cry: but that's another game)
2. Yes, but it's been a while.
3. Yes.
4. Xteam

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Fifth Element
5. I like cheese

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? Yes I am

Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before? You Betcha

Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? Yep

Do you have a group of players you want to play with? Geezers!

Geezers: The only SGOTM team supported by Barron's magazine:


164942

Immortal, yes, yes. I will probably stick with Smurkz, depending on how many of the Smurkzoids return.

1) Monarch
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Fifth Element*

* I was going to say "Boron" but figured the joke was too geeky/obscure for comfort.

1. Emperor+
2. No
3. Yes
4. The Real Ms. Beyond

I was going to say "Boron" but figured the joke was too geeky/obscure for comfort.

Brilliant!

1. Monarch
2. No
3. Yes
4. Gypsy Kings

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Gypsy Kings...they can't play a game without their Knight :D


Geezers: The only SGOTM team supported by Barron's magazine:


I left right before the Geezers got Sponsored?! :eek:

Always war? I love it! :D


1. Immortal
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Murky Waters

1. Emperor (suffered an uncomfortable loss) Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Trash Team if enough return

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Murky Waters

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Gypsy Kings

Oooh yes, I'm in I'm in! :D

Me too!


Monarch, but Prince should be fine too :)
Yes
Yes
Team Smurkz

1. Emperor
2. No
3. Yes
4. The Real Ms. Beyond

1. Prince
2. Yes, a few
3. no
4. a good one ;)

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Trash Team if enough return

Wow 4 of the 5 "core" members already on, only Brian is missing (hey try to not disappear).

And what about the addictions for the last SG?

Congrats Thrallia, i noticed right (only?) now you're a Staff member now.

@Sweeta
don't worry, to complain about something is the favourite Italian sport.
But the nice ting is that often we're right.

Yes, please. My new years resolution will be the make sure RL does not infringe on my Civving. :) It is a promise. :D

Team Smurkz.

I left right before the Geezers got Sponsored?! :eek:

Well they would never have sponsored us if they knew we had a (potential) staff member in the team. :p Congrats by the way. :goodjob:

4. Gypsy Kings...they can't play a game without their Knight :D

Or their pawn (Scout214) :lol:

OK, I'll shut up now ...

dV

1. Still as bad as before
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Once a chokonut always a chokonut.

1. Noble
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Chokonuts...we're bound to get first at some point!

Prince
Yes
Yes
Geezers

Count me in !!!

1. Monarch
2. yes
3. yes
4. Team Smurkz

1. Monarch
2. yes
3. yes
4. CRC
5. XP

1. Monarch
2. yes
3. yes
4. CRC

1. Monarch
2. yes
3. yes
4. CRC

We like signing in a row;)

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3.Yes
4. CRC

What row?

1. settler
2. Yes
3.Yes
4. CRC

Look at CRC MMing already :D
Can I use your spreadsheet?

1. Don't have Warlords :D :D (Though I'm sure I'd be comfortable with Settler if I did have it)
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. I'll officially lurk in XTeam

Well they would never have sponsored us if they knew we had a (potential) staff member in the team. :p Congrats by the way. :goodjob:

thanks, but you've got two former geezers, now staff members :p

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. CRC

Party on, the SGOTM is here again!

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Trash team

1. Prince, but i'm almost comfortable on monarch
2. Yes, GOTM 23-24
3. I have not played a SGOTM, but have followed some team threads to get the feel and enviroment of the game
4. I will play with anyone who wants me. (sexy body pose)

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Gypsy Kings (as an official lurker this time)

Grey Cardinal missed by about 12 hrs though...

1. Emperor / Immortal
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Gypsy Kings

Always war... :D :D :D :D :D :D

1. Monarch/Prince
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Chokonutty.

1. Emperor
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Murky Waters

@ AlanH: Oyzar is joining Gypsy Kings (see his modified post #5), posting here also since you might not monitor the old posts for revisions.

dV

Immortal
Yes
Yes
X-team

Monarch
Yes
Yes
I was a Misfit, but I don't see any of them around. (Anywhere I can learn more!)

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Chokonuts

1. Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?

I often win at Monarch and often lose at Emperor.

2. Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before?

No, but I played a few Civ3 GOTM games.

3. Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?

No. I've played years-long Alpha Centauri PBEM though, so I know how to stick with it through the long haul.

4. Do you have a group of players you want to play with?

Someone friendly?

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. XTeam

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Chokonuts

1) Monarch
2) Yes
3) yes
4) One Short Straw (OSS)

I love AW.

1) Monarch
2) Yes
3) Yes
4) Geezers

1. Monarch-Emporer
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Misfits

Immortal
yes
yes
Office of Strategic Services/one short straw (OSS)

Emperor
Yes
Yes
OSS - If they have room for me to join again

1.) Monarch
2.) No
3.) Participated in SGOTM 1 and 2, signed up for 3 but didn't participate:blush:
4.) No team, no preference

immortal (lose plenty tho)
yes
yes
OSS

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. No
4. Gypsy Kings

1. Noble/Prince
2. No
3. Yes
4. Misfits

Emperor
Yes
Yes
OSS(Office of Strategic Services)

Of course YES !!! :)

Murky Waters was my team and still want to join it !! Go for gold this round !!

Regards all

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? Prince/Monarch
Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before? Yes
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? Yes
Do you have a group of players you want to play with? Any team that will have me or gets stuck with me ;)

PLEASE NOTE:

I have to make some family visits between now and Monday, December 10, during which I shall not be on line for any length of time, and I shall be away from my systems. So I shall not be able to prepare the team lists until Monday /Tuesday. I shall still try to start the game on schedule, but it may be a bit tight.

Meanwhile, here are a few tidbits from the Master ...


You play as the Charismatic, Protective Churchill of the English Empire.
You start with Fishing and Mining.
Your unique unit is the Redcoat, replacing the Rifleman.
Your Unique building is the Stock Exchange, replacing the Bank.
The map is a highly modified Cylindrical Big And Small map, using the BtS map script. It is Standard, Temperate, Medium sea level.
Always war. All VCs are enabled. I think the barbs are at default setting.

Here's the start - click the picture for one a bit bigger.

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/civ4games/images/SGOTM06small.jpg (http://gotm.civfanatics.net/civ4games/images/SGOTM06.jpg)

Wow....what a sweet location. Good luck and have fun everyone.

Those blue circles are bizarre. I've never seen the AI tell me to settle on the gold.

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. No
4. CRC

When are team threads going to go up so we can start disucssion?

Monarch/Emperor
No
Yes
Trash Team (official lurker initially due to lack of a PC)

When are team threads going to go up so we can start disucssion?

Previously answered.

PLEASE NOTE:

I have to make some family visits between now and Monday, December 10, during which I shall not be on line for any length of time, and I shall be away from my systems. So I shall not be able to prepare the team lists until Monday /Tuesday. I shall still try to start the game on schedule, but it may be a bit tight.

Monarch/Emperor
Yes
Yes
No preference

Edit: XTeam has invited me to join them.

1. Monarch
2. no
3. yes
4. CRC

I can't believe I missed this thread!!!

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game? Monarch
Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before? yes
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? no
Do you have a group of players you want to play with? no preference, although I'd like to have at least one high level player to learn from

1. Emperor / Immortal
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No

Always war... :D :D :D :D :D :D

Edit: I've signed up to play with the Gypsy Kings.

1. Emperor
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Murky Waters (as a lurker, since I don't have Warlords)

1. (in BtS) Emperor/Immortal
2. No
3. Yes
4. The Real Ms. Beyond

1. Monarch / Emperor
2. what was the question again?
3. what was the question again?
4. The Real Ms. Beyond

Those blue circles are bizarre. I've never seen the AI tell me to settle on the gold.Trust me, i'm not voted to say the contrary of what you post, but it happens often to me. Of course i don't care.

1. Monarch
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. OSS

1. Immortal
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Murky Waters

1. Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) ...? Probably no more than monarch or Emperor
2. Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before? Yes
3. Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before? No
4. Do you have a group of players you want to play with? No preference, other than a very forgiving team :D

Please excuse a minor hijack! Calling all Pretzl's, oops I mean Toller's, sorry, toller pretzl please enable private messages so your team can send you one! Thank you!

Do you have a group of players you want to play with? no preference, although I'd like to have at least one high level player to learn from

Trash team have gracously invited me to join their ranks, and I'd like to accept that invitation.

1. Immortal
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. Murky Waters So LC, may we infer success from this post?

Please excuse a minor hijack! Calling all Pretzl's, oops I mean Toller's, sorry, toller pretzl please enable private messages so your team can send you one! Thank you! Given current team sizes, for pre-thread discussions, could we increase PM sending limit to perhaps 10 at a time (from the current 5)?

We now return control of you television set (er ... thread) to you ...

dV

Not yet, we'll just have ronnie forward all the pms we want to everyone that way you only have to send to one instead of 10 :). Now you can have it back though :p

1. Monarch
2. no
3. no
4. CRC

All this waiting caused me to make a better pic of the start position!

I know this is not the place for pre-game discussion, but for lack of a better thread here is the start. It helps (at least me) to give better view of the start position.


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/remcoverheij/sgotm-6-start.jpg

You should add the lake/ocean too as it seems kinda cruicial.. I see you have marked it as grass? river there while it is obviously a water body... Also pretty sure the two titles N and NE of the gold are plains...

Level: Prince?
Gotm: yes
SG: yes
Team: Trash.

PLEASE NOTE:

I have to make some family visits between now and Monday, December 10, during which I shall not be on line for any length of time, and I shall be away from my systems. So I shall not be able to prepare the team lists until Monday /Tuesday. I shall still try to start the game on schedule, but it may be a bit tight.

OK, I'm back on line, but I'm still a bit bushed from my travels. Thanks for all the sign-ups. I'll try to post draft team lists tomorrow.

Which level (noble, monarch, etc.) are you comfortable playing in a solo game?
Monarch for warmongering victories, Emperor for pansy Cultural / Space wins :shifty:
Have you played any Civ4/Warlords GOTM games before?
Yes
Have you played any succession games or SGOTM before?
Yes
Do you have a group of players you want to play with?
Trash Team :)

Level: Immortal
Gotm:no
SG: yes
Team: Gypsy Kings.

I've talk with R1 to be "official lurker" i.e. as i don't have time for regular play i will join the team's discussions with all other rules on as other regular team members.

Did i understand the term "official lurker" right?

You should add the lake/ocean too as it seems kinda cruicial.. I see you have marked it as grass? river there while it is obviously a water body... Also pretty sure the two titles N and NE of the gold are plains...

Good points :cool:

Picture is updated!

We have 79 active players and 5 "lurkers" so far.

Here is the current status of the 12 teams based on your stated preferences. I have added the six players who had no team preference to the three smaller teams to increase them to six players each. In summary, the player distributions are:

9 active players: CRC
8 active players: Gypsy Kings
7 active players: The Real Ms. Beyond, Xteam
6 active players: Chokonuts, Geezers, Murky Waters, One Short Straw, Trash Team, Smurkz, Fifth Element, Misfits

The detailed lists are below.

Please let me know if I have missed anyone, or hit any sore nerves, or miss-spelt any names, or if you want any other changes. I shall open your team threads in 20 hours or so, to give time for team adjustments based on your initial feedback.

http://gotm.civfanatics.net/submit/team_list/50006.php

Gypsy Kings is correct! Games on boys and girls!

XTeam looks ready to go!! :hammer:

Ms. Beyond's minions are as expected. Good luck all.

Happy to be a Smurkz. Let's start playing... er, whoops, review of Smurkz threads shows the proper response is "let's start talking, we'll play when we're ready."

:-)

Seems like I am a misfit....

Go the Geezers! We're guaranteed to win this time.

If we do better than the other teams, that is.

Trash Team is up to full strength and ready for another trashing...

...one way or another! ;)

Happy to be a Smurkz. Let's start playing... er, whoops, review of Smurkz threads shows the proper response is "let's start talking, we'll play when we're ready."

:-)
:lol: Welcome to Smurkzdom ChrisShaffer! Seems you already got the general idea of what that means...

CRC is correct

@Alan
Fifth Element have 2 new members, and i never see them, so i can't say if their nicks are correct.
Sweetacshon is the correct spelling.

Misfits ... OK, looking forward to it ... :goodjob:

Alan, did you perchance give the Misfits a top caliber player this time? We did okay last time, but we lacked much of the early mapping and decision making I saw other teams doing.

Thanks!

I've fixed sweetacshon (somebody had to :p)

Re. Mastiff_of_Ar and Misfits: The new players are the only ones I have any real discretion over without upsetting a bunch of people, and they are mostly unknown quantities. Maybe ChrisFromLux is what you are looking for. Or, if there's a strategic thinker who would like to make a name for him/herself by helping Misfits, please feel free to come forward and ask for a transfer.

Yeah, somebody have to make the dirty jobs.
Thanks Alan :goodjob:

This post is mainly for my teammates:
please, don't post anything in the team thread, i would like to reserve the first 2 posts for the indexes.

One last thing Alan:
BrianS' last activity was in November 27, IIRC before the sign-up started.
If he wish to join again we'll welcome him, i hope it will be possible.

BrianS' last activity was in November 27, IIRC before the sign-up started.
If he wish to join again we'll welcome him, i hope it will be possible.
Sure, you have six now. Another player isn't going to be a problem.

I've opened the Maintenance Thread and the twelve team threads for this game.

PLEASE ALL SUBSCRIBE to the Maintenance Thread. It's the only place where I'll make announcements that may be important to your games. I do not intend to post notices in all twelve team threads.

PLEASE read the reference information that is linked from the first post in the Maintenance Thread, or in your team thread. This is particularly important for new players in SGOTMs. The rules are important, we enforce them, and if you fail to play to them you risk penalties for yourself and your team.

Please check in to your team threads once your leaders have reserved the posts they want for their indexes etc. Your teams will want to know that you have shown up, and that you have found the thread. And they will want to get started on the pre-game discussions.

All this waiting caused me to make a better pic of the start position!

I know this is not the place for pre-game discussion, but for lack of a better thread here is the start. It helps (at least me) to give better view of the start position.


http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/remcoverheij/sgotm-6-start.jpg

Now that team threads are up, maybe Alan won't mind a brief detour for some humor ...

Hmm ... is that the old Atari version of civ? :lol:

Oooh! ... the pre-graphics era!

dV

:lol:

Even the text version of Civ is fun!

:lol:

Your settler spots a panther. What do you want him to do?

a) Wet himself.
b) Run away screaming prayers to gods who are yet to be discovered.
c) Withdraw slowly into a fetal position and whimper quietly to instill pity in the predator.

I'm declaring my intention to lurk in fifth element thread.

thanks

I'm declaring my intention to lurk in fifth element thread.

thanks

Me too

Calling all waiverers!

Fifth Element are currently at FIVE players, as Strauss hasn't turned up to play and their previous player, BrianS, seems to have left the building.

Please can Strauss report to the Fifth Element team thread for duty.

Alternatively, or also, if anyone else fancies their chances in that team, and hasn't been spoilt by lurking in other team threads, then please raise your hand, figuratively speaking.

Thanks Alan,
Strauss checked in few hours ago, we're OK.

So I saw..