Have a look at this video. It is the Singapore cup final and national star striker (in Singapore terms of course) Alam Shah goes berserk.

player going berserk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1_zZ2ErAVE)

This is one of the worst incidents one can see in soccer IMHO. The defenders lies on the ground and he still uses his knee to hit him, according to doctors the defender could have died.

But, don't worry, there are still people who defend the actions as they want the striker to play for Singapore in the WC qualifiers. For your info, this is his 3rd serious incident...that man has a mental problem and should be banned for life from playing professional soccer...what you think?

He should be charged with a criminal offence.

Mr Miyagi would have been proud of that first kick.

His first go at the player after he had just gotten rid of the ball by heading was a red card offence. After that it became criminal.

That's shocking. If that was done in Scotland there would have been a riot. and the guy wouldn't have gotten off the pitch alive as he'd have been lynched by the other ten members of the team. Mass brawl and then some.

What was the reason for the knee kick? Has his opponent said something. Still minutes after the incident he still goes ballistic. Strange...

If you read the comments of the video, the other player apparently was having an affair the with offending player's wife, allegedly.

So what sort of ban is this guy getting, anyway?

Is this a FIFA thing or is it up to Singapore?

Is this a FIFA thing or is it up to Singapore?

Let's hope it's up to Singapore, because FIFA are a bunch of old ladies with regards to penalizing people...


Very filthy play. Especially the knee after the defender was down.

Still, I've seen worse. South American football sees these type of things quite often. I've actually seen a fragment of a player kicking and hitting a referee so much that army personell came onto the field to protect the referee. IIRC that player got a lifetime ban...

that guy is an idiot

That Alam should have been made mince-meat of by the goalie and the defenders.

Bet they were just so taken by surprise, what a psycho.

That is deserving of a lifetime ban IMO.

If you read the comments of the video, the other player apparently was having an affair the with offending player's wife, allegedly.

Then again, they're YouTube comments. The greatest abomination of the English language to date.

Criminal.

The hit alone isn't what I'd ban over. Seen many athletes loose it in the moment. Dirty hits and all.

It's the last 5 minutes of the youtube video where he's still 'lost it' that makes him a danger to continue playing.

I don't think the claim about affairs etc have any substance. I am also ot so sure whether it is beneficial that Fifa is not involved. I expect a very lenient penalty for the player as they want him to play in the qualifiers for the World Cup. The team already consists of a lot of imported players, they wouldn't want to let a home grown player banned from it.

Not sure why he got sent off. Both players are entitled to go for a 50-50 ball. Are we suggesting that his foot was a bit high ?

Not sure why he got sent off. Both players are entitled to go for a 50-50 ball. Are we suggesting that his foot was a bit high ?

If by 'ball' you mean 'defender's head' then yeah, I see what you mean.

Not sure why he got sent off. Both players are entitled to go for a 50-50 ball. Are we suggesting that his foot was a bit high ?

:lol:

The worst thing is that the defender tears down his knee when he was trying to get up. That was shocking!

Duncan Fergusson got jailed for worse...

Not sure why he got sent off. Both players are entitled to go for a 50-50 ball. Are we suggesting that his foot was a bit high ?Good try, but a pretty lame joke...did you actually bother to watch the video?

Good try, but a pretty lame joke...did you actually bother to watch the video?

You obviously do not share Lambert's taste of humour!

Not sure why he got sent off. Both players are entitled to go for a 50-50 ball. Are we suggesting that his foot was a bit high ?
I think it was because he pulled his shirt off at the end of the video. I'm not sure but I think that's a bookable offence nowadays...

Taking out the shirt means getting a yellow card. I never understood that rule! But as he already got the red card another yellow one would be superflicious.
Anyway that kick was worth of a karate WC final and no soccer final! Was that guy trying to invent a new kind of sports? If yes, he should ask at first Mr. Blatter. If he bribed him enough it would be okay. But as he didn't he should thbink over all for the end of the season resp. the next half season played! If he does something like that again he should be banned and brought to jail! In all cases he should visit a good psychatrist.

Adler

Ah, this explains at least something:


If you read the comments of the video, the other player apparently was having an affair the with offending player's wife, allegedly.

But....

Then again, they're YouTube comments. The greatest abomination of the English language to date.

Even if those comments on youtube are correct, then it still is not an excuse to use on the football field.

:eek:


I am glad there was no other player with such emotional instability on the field - they'd have killed each other. I hope this guy gets a lifetime ban and a criminal trial. This is no longer 'rough play' or a 'blackout action' - this is nothing but assault and battery. Six months suspended sentence should suit him. And a fine. A very stiff one.

The worst thing is that the defender tears down his knee when he was trying to get up. That was shocking!

Indeed. I didn't even spot whether he got carded for that.

I think it was because he pulled his shirt off at the end of the video. I'm not sure but I think that's a bookable offence nowadays...

Ahh, I see. So perhaps the ref just meant to give him a yellow ?

I think it was because he pulled his shirt off at the end of the video. I'm not sure but I think that's a bookable offence nowadays...

That only happens after scoring a goal.

I didnt think it looked that bad really, I dont watch much soccer though.

I didnt think it looked that bad really, I dont watch much soccer though.

you must watch hockey then? :P

Honestly if that same thing were to happen in Scotland, Poland or somewhere like that, the fans would've all just jumped on the field and start fighting each other while the players try to escape... Good thing Singapore isn't like that...

He watches Rugby, which is why. ;)

Ahh, I see. So perhaps the ref just meant to give him a yellow ?
Yeah, yellow would have been fair. We don't want football to become a sport of sissies, now do we?

That only happens after scoring a goal.
I'm pretty sure you can also get yellow for pulling your shirt during play. The only question would be why somebody would do that.

sentence for the player (http://www.todayonline.com/articles/226844.asp)
Now, isn't that ridiculous. I wouldn't be surprised if he would still play for Singapore as they need him. Never mind he is a gangster on the pitch, Singapore needs to win games...

Singapore is actually quite a pathetic sports country, but in their quest for glory to overcome their inferiorty complex, medals must be won now by all means. The soccer team now has 7 non native Singaporeans such as Nigerians, Chinese and Europeans.
The whole table tennis team consists of China players. Luckily so far that policy hasn't paid off.

The punishment is quite fair imho.

Should've been harsher IMO, but it will do.

What's a football player make? $2,000 (I assume this is Singapore Dollars too) is nothing.

the fine is way too low - unless they also made him accept counseling. The ban is fine. But it should apply everywhere and in any tournament.

:agree: Yes, he should be banned anywhere. I hope the officials won't let him to the WC qualification as he didn't play. Otherwise, except a too low fine, the ban is okay.

Adler

I agree that the ban should apply everywhere. It would be too easy to go play abroad.

But if he doesn't do that he will have a hard time getting match pratice to play for the national team.

Allowing him to still play for the national team really stinks. It's just gross expediency.

And I'd agree that the fine appears too low (though I've no idea what he earns).

The one point I'd (genuinely, this time;)) take issue with is the length of the ban. It certainly seems a suitably harsh penalty. On the other hand, in my experience it's well out of kilter with other penalties given for deliberate foul play (including repeated pre-meditated foul play). Have we got any comparisons with sentences passed on European footballers for potentially career ending tackles ?

His headbutt was an illusion by evil Mazzerazzi Paparazzi!

worse than that:

schumacher 82; look around 1mn30 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQgUuiIXp1A)

worse than that:

schumacher 82; look around 1mn30 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQgUuiIXp1A)

yeah, that was a bad one - making it even with the penalty kick.

The lenght of the ban seems good to me, but I agree with everyone that it should apply everywhere, so the player can't move to a different league and still play


Have we got any comparisons with sentences passed on European footballers for potentially career ending tackles ?

In december 2004 Rachid Bouaouzan committed perhaps the most horrible foul ever seen on Dutch football fields, when he recklessly flew in, and broke Niels Kokmeijer's right leg.

Video: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=tC_c_71Cbcg

The Dutch FA suspended Bouaouzan for 10 games. Bouaouzan's team (Sparta Rotterdam) was not satisfied with the suspension and suspended the player for 6 months.

Niels Kockmeijer will never play football (or any other sport) again, and to this day he still walks with a very noticable limp.



Needless to say the Dutch FA . .. .. .. .ed up here. Bouaouzan ruined another players' career. IMHO he should have been banned from ever playing again.

With this reference in mind, the punishment given to the Singapore player seems good to me.

With this reference in mind, the punishment given to the Singapore player seems good to me.

I think we share the same general view here, that the sentence in the Singapore case was much beyond what has been given for dangerous play elsewhere, but is a reasonable level of punishment if viewed in isolation from other such cases. But where you are seeing this as a much more appropriate period of disqualification, and perhaps as indication of the level of penalty to be applied in future, I see it as a one-off, and quite disproportionate to what others have received (and will receive in the future) for just as bad offences.

I guess previous excessive leniency isn't that good an argument for not tackling the problem properly, so if this was the start of a series of appropriate punishments, then I'd be all :) :goodjob: . I bet it isn't though....

I guess previous excessive leniency isn't that good an argument for not tackling the problem properly, so if this was the start of a series of appropriate punishments, then I'd be all :) :goodjob: . I bet it isn't though....

Unfortunately I agree with this... :(
(with the 'unfortunately' referring to having to agree with the sentiment you express, not to having to agree with the person who I'm agreeing with).

with the 'unfortunately' referring to having to agree with the sentiment you express, not to having to agree with the person who I'm agreeing with
:lol: That's OK, I wouldn't have rushed to take offence..

Latest news are ,that he might play for an Indonesian club. Hope they will 'smack' him properly if he goes on a rampage yet again.

:lol:

That's a cruncher and a half that one. I wouldn't be surprised to see him homeless due to a "bad employment record" within two years...