Post your post-season related garbage here.

Eight teams are left.

Washington, Pittsburgh, Tampa Bay, and Tennessee are eliminated.

NFC
1 Dallas
2 Green Bay
3 Seattle
4 Tampa Bay
5 New York
6 Washington

AFC
1 New England
2 Indianapolis
3 San Diego
4 Pittsburgh
5 Jacksonville
6 Tennessee

and then there were 9.

also, if the jaguars beat the patriots (assuming a san diego win or a jags win over indy and ne over ten), I will be a jags fan for life. I may occasionally get on bandwagons, but once I do I never leave (one exception to the rule, but it was Anaheim's own fault.)

Well, its official. I'm never watching 1rst Take or anything associated with Skip Bayless ever again. The guests were the Two Stu's or something from that hellhole of sports, Atlanta. One of them said the Cowboys had zero chance because the Giants...can get a passrush...or something...and because Eli Manning is better than Tony Romo (lol). The other guy said that...because the Giants and Eli are weakminded and cant stand their home fans...it would be good for them to play on the road? Even though Dallas beat them at home and in the Meadowlands?

Then Bayless, who said that not resting would hurt the Giants, completely forgot about that stance so he could do what he does best. Bash the Cowboys. Basically, because Romo went to Mexico over the TWO WEEK BREAK and because Sporano and Garrett took some interviews, the Cowboys have no chance. Oh, and Ahmad Bradshaw is god.

Why did I ever even bother watching Bayless? This is the same guy who holds a lifetime grudge on the Cowboys because he was fired from the Dallas Morning News for accusing Troy Aikman of being gay in his "book" on the Cowboys dynasty of the '90s. With no proof, nothing but random conjecture (this is how Bayless usually comes to his baseless conclusions on anything). The story goes that Aikman went to his agent and asked how much it would cost him to kick Bayless' arse himself.

This is the same guy who, after the Cowboys whipped the Giants at the Meadowlands, was nowhere to be seen on his show or anywhere the ENTIRE WEEK AFTERWARDS. Of course he had picked the Giants and pumped the Giants for weeks beforehand, so of course he would not show up and be a man.

I can usually expect more insightful Cowboys banter from ExtremeSkins than from Ballsless, but for some reason, it irks me that a major network continues to supply a forum for such blatantly open haters like Bayless. Hodge also has a job, despite his penchant for always picking against the Eagles and keeping the Steelers in his top 5 teams all year....every year. People may not like FoxNews, but freakin Al-Jazeera doesnt have anything on what ESPN can do.

/rant

I hope the Cowboys watch ESPN.

I just don't pay attention to Bayless. He makes money for angering Dallas fans. Hate mail is good mail, because it means people listen.

As long as there are people who listen, mediots will always be around.

ESPN doesn't hate Dallas, ESPN loves Dallas.

I just don't pay attention to Bayless. He makes money for angering Dallas fans. Hate mail is good mail, because it means people listen.



Actually, Skippy is double-dipping with Dallas these days, what with his
T.O. bashfests and all.

ESPN doesn't hate Dallas, ESPN loves Dallas.

ESPN loves to hate Dallas, it gets ratings ;) Trey Wingo is a Cowboys fan, but Berman hates us (Bills fan, :lol: ) and Skip has his longtime grudges against us.

The only guy on ESPN to pick us, the number 1 seed at home against a team its beaten twice already, was Jay Mariotti. :lol: :lol:

It just seems a bit ridiculous.

ESPN loves to hate Dallas, it gets ratings ;) Trey Wingo is a Cowboys fan, but Berman hates us (Bills fan, :lol: ) and Skip has his longtime grudges against us.

The only guy on ESPN to pick us, the number 1 seed at home against a team its beaten twice already, was Jay Mariotti. :lol: :lol:

It just seems a bit ridiculous.

Watch SportsCenter for 5 minutes and you'll see the love. Jesus, I couldn't watch SC without seeing Romo or Owens this summer.

You mean the "When Owens blow up this year, can Wade handle it?" or the "Is Romo just a flash in the pan?" I remember those topics.

Why do we need this thread?
The 2008 playoffs decide the 2007 NFL champion, so why clutter the forum with another thread, splitting up the discussion? :confused:

Also, why are you guys discussing a journalist/writer? I thought this topic was about football? And I think we can all agree that most journalists write their own opinions, so isn't it fairly logical that some will agree with him/her and some will think he/she is an idiot?

Why do we need this thread?
The 2008 playoffs decide the 2007 NFL champion, so why clutter the forum with another thread, splitting up the discussion? :confused:

Also, why are you guys discussing a journalist/writer? I thought this topic was about football? And I think we can all agree that most journalists write their own opinions, so isn't it fairly logical that some will agree with him/her and some will think he/she is an idiot?

It is the year 2008, and it is not the season. It is called the 2008 playoffs. The 2007 playoffs in 2007 were last year. Look it up. With all these useless soccer threads, I wouldn't call 2 active NFL threads clutter (the prediction thread and this one.

The journalist is commenting on the playoffs.

Skip Bayless is the scum of journalism, he should have been barred from ever writing again...either that or he can cover some highschool track.

Now, is anyone actually giving the Jags a chance? Seriously?

The Patriots will win this game by double digits.

Why don't we change the name of this thread to worried Cowboys fans Thread.

Are the Cowboys in the post-season? Yea, thats what I thought.

Besides, I just asked a question about the Pats.

THat monday night football game bears against cowboys was pretty biased towards the cowboys. Nothing but praise for Tony Romo.

Now, is anyone actually giving the Jags a chance? Seriously?

This guy.

Del Rio! (http://www.ryanparkersongs.com/)

The same pats that berely beat the giants. Squeked past the Jets. And shoult of lost to the ravens.

No, the same Pats that beat every team in front of them with one of the hardest schedules in the league. At Indianapolis and At Dallas were the two most impressive wins for anyone this season, plus 50+ blowout games against Washington & Buffalo, a convincing win against the 11 win Chargers, the 10 win Browns, and the supposedly "close game" against the Giants was a 10 point margin before the Giants made it close when it was basically too late.

The same Pats team that set records in scoring, passing TD's, and scoring margin. The same Pats team that is something like 11-2 under Belichick in the postseason and undefeated at home under Belichick in the postseason. The same Pats team with arguably the best QB in the game, the best WR in the game, the best coach in the game, and a top 5 defense (statistically anyway).

And lets not forget that Tom Brady is perhaps the most clutch quaterback since the likes of Joe Montana or Roger Staubach. The only thing the Patriots don't have is an experienced big game kicker. Stephen Gostkowski is not Vinatieri.

I would not mind seeing them lose, I just don't expect it. I'm expecting Jacksonville to lose by at least 14 points.

@cubsfan, Cowboys-Bears was an NBC game. John Madden ALWAYS has his pet players in every broadcast...since Urlacher wasnt doing so hot, he had to go with Romo ;) It always gets me horrified that he will jinx them.

As long as Dallas does not win the Superbowl. I think the Pats will beat the Packers in overtime to win the Superbowl.

This weekend is feeling a lot like 1996 to me. All that's missing is the Woody Paige column calling them Jagwads.

Are you saying you should be favored? Over the 16-0 team?

Yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. :roll eyes:

If your going to do that annoying smiley, do it right at least :p

What exactly are you saying though? I'm not Nicholas Cage, I can't decipher code.

In 1996, nobody gave the Jaguars a chance in Denver in the divisional playoffs; because Denver is dominant - especially at home, the Jags got extremely lucky in winning in Buffalo the previous week, etc. The circumstances are eerily similar.

Will that result in a Jaguars win? Probably not, I'm just pointing it out for posterity's sake.

The Jags will have to play an almost flawless game to win. Pass rush on Brady, decent running game, no interceptions and a special teams big play
will do the trick :mischief: . Patriots end game is tops, and any mistakes
the Jags make will be taken advantage of like good teams do. Nobody is
pulling for the Jags any harder than I am, but their chances are slim in my
opinion.

The Patriots are vulnerable to mistakes like other teams. An undefeated regular season does not make a team invincible. While their defense is certainly the weaker link by far, their offense has been slowed down tremendously before this season.

The Patriots are vulnerable to mistakes like other teams. An undefeated regular season does not make a team invincible.

Exactly. They may have been undefeated this regular season, but a single mistake or opponent big play or critical injury can end any teams season.

For example, what if Tom Brady gets hurt on the first offensive play of the Patriots this weekend, just like Carson Palmer a few years ago?
What happens to that great offense then?

Post season prediction threads are pretty boring for Pats fans such as myself.

I'd be curious what the Jags red zone efficiency rating is, IMHO their only chance is if they can score at least 3 RZ TDs, because I have a feeling they'll be kicking a lot of field goals. I say this because the Pats typically let teams march up field, protecting against the big play, and then come down hard on their side of the field. Been doing that for years.

This is all assuming the Jags are getting good runs on the ground. Without that they're dead in the water.

Even if Tom Brady is injured they still would win the superbowl. Tom Brady doesn't make the offense, the offense made Tom Brady.

Post season prediction threads are pretty boring for Pats fans such as myself.

I'd be curious what the Jags red zone efficiency rating is, IMHO their only chance is if they can score at least 3 RZ TDs, because I have a feeling they'll be kicking a lot of field goals. I say this because the Pats typically let teams march up field, protecting against the big play, and then come down hard on their side of the field. Been doing that for years.

This is all assuming the Jags are getting good runs on the ground. Without that they're dead in the water.

I guess you weren't a Pats fan in the beginning of the season, when they always gave up the redzone TDs.

Even if Tom Brady is injured they still would win the superbowl. Tom Brady doesn't make the offense, the offense made Tom Brady.

Sure... We all saw this season how effective the Patriots back-up QB's were... :rolleyes:

Holy crap, the Chargers actually won a playoff game?

I guess you weren't a Pats fan in the beginning of the season, when they always gave up the redzone TDs.

I doubt giving up RZ TDs was in their gameplan. Other than the last game they've improved their RZ defense quite a bit, so as I said, how the Jags do in the RZ determines the game IMHO.

Holy crap, the Chargers actually won a playoff game?

A Chargers team coached by NORV TURNER! :lol:


14-14 at half, Tom Brady had not missed a pass when I last left the TV. I WANT Jax to win, I just dont expect it...but Garrard is playing dynomite right now.

Did anyone see the horse collar tackle by the patriots that was out of bounds.

Did anyone see the horse collar tackle by the patriots that was out of bounds.

Yep. New England still would have won with that call. Tom Brady just had one of the best games I've ever seen.

I am not concerned by the outcome, but if a player commits two personal fouls, isn't that an ejection? The one time the personal foul went to the wrong person, and so I was wondering why Harrison was not ejected.

Erm ... exciting. 28-24 to the Chargers ... a minute to go!

And 'tis done. Another obstacle out of the way for Green Bay's superbowl win.

And 'tis done. Another obstacle out of the way for Green Bay's superbowl win.

And thank god! New England does scare me though.

:)

This tackling is disgusting me...Amani Toomer should never have a 50 yard touchdown in any capacity.

NE v. SD rematch, if it's anything like their last playoff game should be fun to watch.

What happened to Rivers? I missed that part of the game.

He had some leg injury...he was walking around the sidelines, so he should be ready for next week.

What a drive by eli manning.

I've said it before, but the Cowboys have the least clutch D of any "good D" in the league.

Half Time show says Rivers and LT questionable with knee injuries, LT says "I'll be there." Bring it on!

As for the Dallas Game, I'm watching while doing some work but I was able to see how awful the tackling was on that Toomer TD. Three guys should have had him- there was a nice block at the end there but those first two misses were inexcusable.

Dallas just did not show up to play. There is no excuse for such a poor performance. We were not hurt, we did commit those penalties, and all three units were poor.

Green Bay certainly has a good chance to win it all, but New England is still in, and they don't even have to play Indianapolis.

2 playoff wins in 12 years is better than 0 playoff wins. I hope Jerry Jones is forced to eat those tickets he bought.

2 playoff wins in 12 years is better than 0 playoff wins. I hope Jerry Jones is forced to eat those tickets he bought.

0 rings either way. :p

I wonder what the media will now say about Romo's trip to Mexico... :mischief:

All in all the Giants deserved to win. Romo is a very good QB september through november, but he's going to have to exorcise that december-january demon before he'll be among the game's elite. You simply have to take advantage of that depleted Giants secondary at home in the 4th quarter in the playoffs, and he couldn't. Not that I am saying this is all on Romo (the defense and the special teams coverage didn't help either), but that's what was most striking about this loss.

Well, Eli Manning wasnt dominant, Brandon Jacobs & Ahmad Bradshaw (OMG SECRET WEAPON) never really got going, and Burress did not dominate us like he usually does.

The obvious MVP for the Giants was Corey Webster. Covering even an injured TO one-on-one was pretty good and Romo was never able to exploit that matchup. Kudos to the Giants, although I really never want to see Michael Strahan, Eli, Burress, or Shockey win a ring.

It sucks to lose. Some will say it was Romo's trip, but those people would be complete idiots. I need to say nothing else to address this. It was just...there was NOWHERE for Romo to throw in those last two drives. We got 1 bad call (the intentional grounding), they got a few bad calls...so I can't blame the officiating. I still am firmly in the Romo camp, no way he should be anywhere but Dallas for the next 5 years.

In a more positive light, we learned Marion Barber can start a whole game and do very well against a good defense. Glenn could come back for next year. Our team is young, most of our good players are young and all of our important FA's are resigned (I think they are talking to Hamlin). This loss will serve as mega-motivation (last year was kinda expected, this one will sting much more) so I expect Dallas to come out swinging next year.

And I think Peyton, Hasselbeck, and the godking himself Eli all lost a few playoff games to start their careers (Peyton blew a few at home to lesser teams and that 41-0 game to the Jets).

Plus, we would not have beaten the Patriots. Losing in the Superbowl would probably be 10 times more disappointing and is usually followed up with a bad season ;)

Go Packers, go Chargers.

In a more positive light, we learned Marion Barber can start a whole game and do very well against a good defense. Glenn could come back for next year. Our team is young, most of our good players are young and all of our important FA's are resigned (I think they are talking to Hamlin). This loss will serve as mega-motivation (last year was kinda expected, this one will sting much more) so I expect Dallas to come out swinging next year.

Were there questions about Barber not being able to start? And does this mean the end of J. Jones in Dallas?

Go Packers, go Chargers.

I can agree with this, for once from you. :p

#81 crying on the pedastal = priceless

romo blowing it yet again = priceless

sweet, sweet stuff :lol:

I really don't see what Romo's trip had to do with it - then again I am not superstitious.

Anyways, go Pack, and go SD for the upset!

#81 crying on the pedastal = priceless

romo blowing it yet again = priceless

sweet, sweet stuff :lol:

TO is running for president!

Half Time show says Rivers and LT questionable with knee injuries, LT says "I'll be there." Bring it on!

As for the Dallas Game, I'm watching while doing some work but I was able to see how awful the tackling was on that Toomer TD. Three guys should have had him- there was a nice block at the end there but those first two misses were inexcusable.

Just as horrible an example was right before halftime. Eli had just thrown
a long pass to Toomer(?). He was hit by a Dallas guy who drug him out of bounds. Clock stops, Giants get to save timeout they would have had to use if the play stays in bounds, Giants go from thinking field goal to thinking touchdown.

#81 crying on the pedastal = priceless

romo blowing it yet again = priceless

sweet, sweet stuff :lol:

Someone is just jealous that TO is more loyal to Romo & the Cowboys than he ever was too McNabb & the Eagles ;)

And when Romo starts throwing up on the last drive or throws a stinker up like the Bucs/Panthers playoff games...then I guess we can talk about blowing it.

Is it to early to draw up Grossman-Romo anologies.

Is it to early to draw up Grossman-Romo anologies.

I don't think Romo was that bad. Dallas as a whole played a pretty poor game and the Giants D was running the show at the end there. Romo actually made some good plays that game.

Grossman's SB performance, on the other hand, was a failure of epic proportions. It basically ended his career, and it's not like he was ever really that good to begin with.

Grossman's SB line: 1TD, 2 INT (1 returned for a TD) and 2 fumbles on the snap. Ouch. You've got to really try pretty hard to screw up that badly.

I don't think Romo was that bad. Dallas as a whole played a pretty poor game

I must disagree here.
The Dallas defense didn't play that bad. They limited the Giants to 253 yards and 21 points. The offense is what hurt the Cowboys, and IMHO especially the offensive play-calling. Romo wasn't doing very well, yet they kept trying to pass a lot. I wonder why, especially since Marion Barber had over 100 rushing yards in the first half alone... The Giants never led by more than 4 points in the second half, so there really was no reason to abandon what worked fantastically in the first half: Running Marion Barber downhill.
IMHO Jason Garrett tried to do too much when it wasn't working like earlier in the year. When the offense stutters, who not stick with what worked just fine in the first half? Then if the Giants prove they can stop Barber, then you can start trying other things.

Marion Barber had 19 carries in the first half, but only 8 in the second half, with 5 of those coming on the Cowboys only scoring drive of the second half (at the start of the third quarter).
I simply can't understand this: Marion Barber gets 126 yards on 25 carries in the first 3 quarters (when he is quite honestly the only Cowboy on offense that is really performing at a high level), but he only gets 2 carries in the 4th quarter, even though the Cowboys were only down by 4, so there was no reason to abandon the run the way the Cowboys did (especially considering the succes they had with the run in the first 3 quarters).

IMHO this loss shouldn't be pinned solely on Romo. Jason Garrett deserves a pretty big chunk of the blame too.

It's true Romo is not wholly to blame, but given the er, um, "tackling" displayed, the defense has to shoulder some blame, too.

It's true Romo is not wholly to blame, but given the er, um, "tackling" displayed, the defense has to shoulder some blame, too.

On the first drive, and especially on the 52-yard TD, absolutely. And also late in the first half. But in the second half, I thought the tackling was pretty OK...

Blame the Dallas offensive line, whose play was offensive in the 4th quarter

Yeah, i think the Romo haters are just jealous that he's hitting a hot babe, AND TO on a slant route.

Not anymore he's not, not until the fall . . .

Someone is just jealous that TO is more loyal to Romo & the Cowboys than he ever was too McNabb & the Eagles ;)

And when Romo starts throwing up on the last drive or throws a stinker up like the Bucs/Panthers playoff games...then I guess we can talk about blowing it.
heh, no jealousy dude. can't stand either of them really...

btw, when the cowpokes finally win a playoff game - sometime in, say, the next decade or so - then you can can talk smack. until then, the dallas football team are a bunch of choke artists :) and great ones, too! :lol:

Yeah, i think the Romo haters are just jealous that he's hitting a hot babe, AND TO on a slant route.

I don't think we're going to be jealous of getting a Lachey or Mayer STD though. If I was Tony Romo, I'd be jealous of Eli Manning, or Rex Grossman. At least they've won them when it counts most. We got 1 fumble last year and an INT this year, what's next year?

simpson looks like miss piggy anyway...

I don't think Romo was that bad. Dallas as a whole played a pretty poor game and the Giants D was running the show at the end there. Romo actually made some good plays that game.

Grossman's SB performance, on the other hand, was a failure of epic proportions. It basically ended his career, and it's not like he was ever really that good to begin with.

Grossman's SB line: 1TD, 2 INT (1 returned for a TD) and 2 fumbles on the snap. Ouch. You've got to really try pretty hard to screw up that badly.

Yes but grossman is great when he's good. Neither of them are consistent.

heh, no jealousy dude. can't stand either of them really...

btw, when the cowpokes finally win a playoff game - sometime in, say, the next decade or so - then you can can talk smack. until then, the dallas football team are a bunch of choke artists :) and great ones, too! :lol:

Philadelphia has taken choking to a level only the Buffalo Bills have reached :lol:

I suppose Philly fans can talk smack when they win a Superbowl? And who lost three NFC Championship games in a row?

One was too a team that had never won a game where the temperature was cold...the next year it was to a team they were heavily favored to beat...and when they finally make it, their leader throws up on the final drive.

Maybe the Cowboys have choked the last two years, but the Eagles have made a franchise out of it :lol:

Were there questions about Barber not being able to start? And does this mean the end of J. Jones in Dallas?

There had been a few. Hopefully this means we won't trade the farm for McFadden now.

JJ has been gone for a while


Oy, and now it looks like the Chargers are smack talking.

Maybe the bears can pick up J. Jones. We had his bro and him and benson were great as a team.

Azale,

us eagles fans took our medicince :) now it's your turn :p couldn't pick a better fan base either!!

Speaking of chokers, when Norv Freaking Turner can win playoff games with
a team that Marty couldn't...

I hate to inundate this thread with more Cowboys news but...Jason Garrett is staying! He is now the highest payed assistant in the NFL, but who cares, this keeps some continuity! :party:

Rivers & Gates did not practice, but they are likely a go. Tomlinson is also a go. They are going to need an epic gutsy performance to pull this one out...

I hate to inundate this thread with more Cowboys news but...Jason Garrett is staying! He is now the highest payed assistant in the NFL, but who cares, this keeps some continuity! :party:


What's the over/under in Vegas for how long it is before Wade is fired?

I hate to inundate this thread with more Cowboys news but...Jason Garrett is staying! He is now the highest payed assistant in the NFL, but who cares, this keeps some continuity! :party:


Smart move by Garrett.

That will give him time to grow as a play-caller. IMHO he needs that. He's got a very bright future ahead of him (potentially also as a head coach), but he's not ready yet. He messed up the play calling in his first really big game (second half against the Giants)...

The last time a team made an assistant the highest-paid assistant in the league, the offense was terrible. :mischief:

Great, now I have no one to root for.

Worst Superbowl Ever.

Worst Superbowl Ever.

Agreed. :shake:

Agreed. :shake:

The only reason I might watch it this year is as a social thing or for the commercials. That said, I'm rooting for al-Queda this game.

This will be an incredible ratings Superbowl...highest ever, no doubt.

That said, good job...uhh...Jeff Feagles? Your about the only Giant whom I wouldnt mind with a ring.

Go Patriots :vomit:

Go Giants!

Too bad the game's not in Foxboro. :(

Go Patriots. :vomit: I am going to go cry now.

Great, now I have no one to root for.

QFT

yuck yuck yuck :vomit:

Worst Superbowl Ever.

Tony Eason & the '85 Patriots would disagree.

Seahawks-Steelers, Redskins-Bills (the one with Rypien), Chargers-Niners, Falcons-Broncos are all worse too.

At least this has some intrigue. Will the Patriots go undefeated? Will they place themselves among only the Steelers of the 70's as the only 4 time superbowl winners in a dynasty? Will Eli ever change facial expressions? Will Brandon Jacobs tear his ACL throwing the ball at a handicapped kid in the stands after a 3 yard touchdown to draw the Giants within 28?

Worst Superbowl Ever.

Agreed:( And a regular season rematch:(

Worst Superbowl Ever.


Don't know yet. 23 (Niners-Bengals) looked to be a snoozer, and would up
being possibly the best ever. And I'd put up several of the Super Bores of the
70s as the worst ever.

Who could ever root for the pats in this?:nono:
Comon people Giants FTW!

Who could ever root for the pats in this?:nono:
Comon people Giants FTW!

Eli Manning. Tom Coughlin. Jeremy Shockey. Brandon Jacobs. Corey Webster. NY Giants? Do I want any of those players wearing rings, hell no.

Plus, I want the Giants to lose so they get the Superbowl hangover effect and totally suck next year :p

Plus, I want the Giants to lose so they get the Superbowl hangover effect and totally suck next year :p

They will, even if they win. Every team has a fluke season once in a while.

Plus, I want the Giants to lose so they get the Superbowl hangover effect and totally suck next year :p

It would be better for NE to lose, that way they get the hangover...although my view is biased by being a Bills fan

Giants only so NE can go 18-1. that would be too funny. I'm rooting for the pro-line commercial that says anything can happen, and a team of nobodies wins cause the stadium collapses on everyone else.

Eli Manning. Tom Coughlin. Jeremy Shockey. Brandon Jacobs. Corey Webster. NY Giants? Do I want any of those players wearing rings, hell no.

Dont forget about Plexico Burress. He literall ran by the packers bench and yelled he can't cover me and pointed towards Al Harris. I thought it was funny because it was the packers. I guess Al harris was playing dirty to. That aside I'm rooting for the giants I just can't stomach Bill Belicheck winning another one. Especially because I am getting incredibly psst of by the lack of spygate coverage.

Did anyone catch Favre's post game interview. If anyone but Favre had done that interview they would of gotten roasted. He litterally said " Well we lost because we didn't ahve a runing game." Just kind of throws Ryan Grant under the bus who is the only reason the the Packers were in this. He then says "maybe I didn't make some throws." Ya think. Maybe throwing a pick in field goal range in overtime isn't a good thing.

Burress is the dumbarse who once spiked a football after a catch...forgot it was a live ball, and had it returned for a TD :lol:

Can't forget Strahan either. Who honestly wants this guy to have a ring?

Seau, who I used to respect, is likely to get a ring. After totally ditching the Dolphins. Sure, ask to be released, maybe ask for a trade...but do this big retirement show and then join the Patriots less than a week later?

Rodney Harrison is a steroided up dirty player. He already has a ring, two too many.

Who knows what Moss actually did (the "accident") to deserve that restraining order. All I know is that he also tried to run over a police officer once and is the mastermind behind quotes like "Straight cash, homie". Yea, I could do without this guy having a ring.


Ok, enough complaining. In the end I think this will be a fantastic game.

oh man, i was a huge packers fan. i dont know how long it will take for me to get over this. Giants do not deserve to be in the superbowl.

Giants do not deserve to be in the superbowl.

Why not? :confused:

They were good enough in the regular season to qualify for the playoffs, and their run in the post season has been very impressive. 3 wins on the road against quality teams. Seems to me like they deserve to be there...

They beat the top two seeds on the road to get to the Superbowl, so yea...they deserve it.

i mean both teams (cowboys and packers) played horribly when they played the giants and only lost by a little when the giants were playing there best. So the cowboys and packers are better than the giants and would have a greater chance to beat new england so that is what i mean by they dont deserve it. well i should think positive if favre returns the packers will beat the giants again.

Yes, and I am confident we can beat them 3 times next year -_-

i mean both teams (cowboys and packers) played horribly when they played the giants and only lost by a little when the giants were playing there best. So the cowboys and packers are better than the giants and would have a greater chance to beat new england so that is what i mean by they dont deserve it. well i should think positive if favre returns the packers will beat the giants again.

The Cowboys and Packers aren't better than the Giants right now, or the Giants would've lost either of those games. In case you forgot, the Giants were one of the closest teams to take down the Patriots (the other being the Colts) in the regular season.

The Redskins outplayed the Packers when they played. The Redskins also outplayed the Giants twice. I think the Redskins deserve to be in the Super Bowl looking at the two NFC Championship games.

Also, Jim Fassel - Jim Zorn - Rex Ryan.

HC - OC - DC of the Washington Redskins for 2008. It's tough to like a team with such a stupid owner.

In case you forgot, the Giants were one of the closest teams to take down the Patriots (the other being the Colts) in the regular season.
the packers did not even play the patriots this season. also a bunch of teams almost beat the patriots. do you remember the eagles game.

are the schedules for the 2008-2009 season out yet. i want to see how many MNf games the packers are in

the packers did not even play the patriots this season. also a bunch of teams almost beat the patriots. do you remember the eagles game.

No, they did not give as good a game as the Giants did. Did you watch that game?

Giants deserve to be there. Last year the bears didn't. this is different. they have had their best 'late season collapse' ever, going 3-2 including nearly beating the Pats. They were 2nd in the (based on my rankings, 2nd, definitely one of top two) divisions in football, and had a 7-3 out of division record, and showed that they could learn from their mistakes, beating the cowboys, and fight the weather, beating the pack. good on them.

i mean both teams (cowboys and packers) played horribly when they played the giants and only lost by a little when the giants were playing there best. So the cowboys and packers are better than the giants and would have a greater chance to beat new england so that is what i mean by they dont deserve it. well i should think positive if favre returns the packers will beat the giants again.

Come one man the pack can't ven beat the bears they don't deserve to be in the playoffs.

"Last year the bears didn't."
How so.

yeah, i don't buy it that chicago shouldn't have been there last year. they had a very good season last year. i mean, their defense was stellar, jones and benson lugged it pretty well, and hester was and still is outstanding.

it pains me as an eagles fan to see the NYG in the super bowl. can't really say whether they "deserve" to be there. they beat some good teams, i'll admit. but i think it's more of a Colorado Rockies Syndrome where a team gets hot at the right time and sort of morphs into this thing that people think is the best team in the nfc and all.

anyhow, a good litmus test re the ginants would be to listen to what their fans say. i guarantee you all that they did not expect this...very good run...and would've probably been very surprised had you told them, say, 2 months ago, that their squad would be playing in the SB.

nonetheless, i could care less about this game. i dislike both teams. i really had wished for old man favre to be there but alas...

Colorado Rockies Syndrome

YES! we have something named after us!

they had a great d, and st. however, generally an offense is rather important. sure, defense wins chanpionships, but rex grossman, muhsin muhhamad, and that crew...

heh, i've got two words for ya: Trent Dilfer :lol:

and i guess i should re-phrase the Rockies Syndrome thing...at least the Giants legitamately made the playoffs! yes! sour grapes! :lol:

Colorado Rockies Syndrome

YES! we have something named after us!

they had a great d, and st. however, generally an offense is rather important. sure, defense wins chanpionships, but rex grossman, muhsin muhhamad, and that crew...

Grossman didn't have an wful year last year. It was more of this year. Besides offense isn't al passing we had one hell of a running game.

I'm surprised no ones mentioned the whole Al Davis wanting to get rid of Lane Kiffin after one whole season thing. That franchise is just a mess with Davis as the owner.

Why not? :confused:



One word: Eli

I'm surprised no ones mentioned the whole Al Davis wanting to get rid of Lane Kiffin after one whole season thing. That franchise is just a mess with Davis as the owner.

Denny Green is probably going to be the hire...I think he will find out soon enough that the Raiders ARE WHO WE THOUGHT THEY WERE!!!


@rhawn, I would be very surprised if Eli carries his postseason success into the regular season next year. The guy had 20 picks and was coming off a very mediocre middle-late end of the season before the lights came on against the Pats. I think he falls back to earth next year (never against the Cowboys though...he never has a bad game against us).

My mantra is "anyone but Dallas", so I'm happy no matter what happens.

Without multi-quoting I suppose that could be interpreted any way one chooses.
To Clarify-
Paraphrased statement of some guy: Giants don't deserve to be in Super Bowl
Paraphrased reply to statement in question: Why not?
My answer: Eli- Mr. "I"m a Manning, I'm not going to play for the team that drafted me."

Washington D.C. hates Dan Snyder...a lot.

Without multi-quoting I suppose that could be interpreted any way one chooses.
To Clarify-
Paraphrased statement of some guy: Giants don't deserve to be in Super Bowl
Paraphrased reply to statement in question: Why not?
My answer: Eli- Mr. "I"m a Manning, I'm not going to play for the team that drafted me."


Sorry rhawn, but I fail to see why Eli Manning refusing to play for the Chargers makes it so that the Giants don't deserve to be in the superbowl? :confused:

IMHO they do deserve to be there. They beat the no 4, 1 and 2 seeds in the NFC on the road, playing very good football (even Eli). Seems pretty deserved to me...
Now if Eli can do the same next year in the regular season remains to be seen. Personally I wouldn't be surprised if he can't, but we'll have to wait and see...

I'm not making a rational argument, I'm just displaying my dislike of Eli Manning.

I'm surprised no ones mentioned the whole Al Davis wanting to get rid of Lane Kiffin after one whole season thing. That franchise is just a mess with Davis as the owner.

Davis' time has passed. The guy revolutionized Football economics and made everyone richer, and he USED to be an amazing talent evaluator but he's done. Unfortunately he is going to continue to demand to see film every week and take control of talent evaluation and signings from the coaching staff until he's wheeled out of there in a coffin.

Darrell Green and Art Monk in the hall. That's what I'm talking about.

Darrell Green and Art Monk in the hall. That's what I'm talking about.

Yeah, but where's the love for L.C. Greenwood?

Zimmerman made it in!

So, the only channel I can watch the final is........................................,

The German public channel ARD.....

Screw me! I do understand German. But this is quite rude: German commentary to Yankee Rugby....

Greatest Upset Ever.

MIKE DITKA IS GOD

GIANTS WIN, 17-14

Eli MVP

:band: [party] :banana: :banana: :dance: :cheers:

Yeah, but where's the love for L.C. Greenwood?

Or Chris Carter?

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA GO TO HELL PATRIOTS....TOO BAD PRETTY BOY (BRADY). NO PERFECT SEASON. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Now I (an Eagles fan) have to root for the Giants all next season (part of the deal I made with the devil for a Giants' victory).

Bill Belichek with yet another classless move. What a surprise.

Eat it Bill Simmons.

I AM SO INCREDIBLY HAPPY RIGHT NOW, AND ITS THE SECOND TIME IN MY LIFE CHEERING FOR THE GIANTS!!!!!!

(first was week 17)

MANNING FAMILY FOR THE WIN!

Worst Superbowl Ever.

I believe this statement was proven false yesterday. And I was pulling for the Patriots. Awesome game.

I believe this statement was proven false yesterday. And I was pulling for the Patriots. Awesome game.

Agreed. If any, this might go down in history as one of the best in recent times.

I'm not making a rational argument, I'm just displaying my dislike of Eli Manning.

God, this Superbowl must have sucked for you... :p ;)

Seriously: Absolutely fantastic game. :goodjob:
Eli was great again, especially when it counted most. New York's defensive line was spectacular... Great, well-deserved win by NY...

I'm thinking the Washington Redskins' head coach search was just decided. If Snyder doesn't get Steve Spagnuolo as his next head coach then he's even more stupid than I already thought he is...

Strahan totally owned Brady!

And somewhat surprisingly, Bill Simmons did not blame the Pats loss on the
refs or some other external factor.

Congratulations to the Super Bowl Champion New York Giants.

One word: Wowzers

Now I (an Eagles fan) have to root for the Giants all next season (part of the deal I made with the devil for a Giants' victory).
Don't do it man!
I believe this statement was proven false yesterday. And I was pulling for the Patriots. Awesome game.

Quite. I'm stunned.

Well, I hated both teams, but the way I look at it: 1. The pats didnt go undefeated and 2. the NFC won, so I guess it is a win for me.

The eagles need to pick someone to block for mcnabb and a wide receiver. I wouldn't have minded chad johnson.

Sorry Redskins fans, no Spagnuolo on your sidelines next year...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/07/spagnuolo.ap/index.html

Sorry Redskins fans, no Spagnuolo on your sidelines next year...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/07/spagnuolo.ap/index.html

Jim Fassel is being picked up as I type. I don't know whether to cry or root for the Ravens.

Seriously...if you thought the Chargers hated Norv Turner for replacing Schottenheimer, Mr. Fassell is running into a really difficult situation. The players in Washington loved Greg Williams.

Seriously...if you thought the Chargers hated Norv Turner for replacing Schottenheimer, Mr. Fassell is running into a really difficult situation. The players in Washington loved Greg Williams.

You know, as much as I didn't buy into the hype that Williams was the right coach, Fassel is just ridiculous. Now, Blatche, our DL coach is the DC. Jim Zorn is the only semi-positive non-player in this organization. It's ridiculous in 1 month that the Skins have become an embarrasment to the city.

Well, thats what the Skins get for paying Gregg more than anyone and allowing Gibbs to basically anoint him his successor. So when it didn't happen...well, it would ALMOST make me choose Atlanta over Washington if I was a prospective coaching candidate. Almost :p

Blache was a good defensive coordinator at one point. You wouldn't think a team that made the playoffs would have a hard time finding a coach.

The 'Skins owner puts together a team like a lazy fantasy football player. It's like he just signs people he's heard of. "Jim Fassel? Wasn't he a coach once? He did all right didn't he? I saw him on Sportscenter alot, yeah sign him up.

Well, Lord Voldemort has hired Jim Zorn as head coach. I am not real familiar
with him as a coach, but I have to think he's being put in a situation
that is not conducive to success...

Well, Lord Voldemort has hired Jim Zorn as head coach. I am not real familiar
with him as a coach, but I have to think he's being put in a situation
that is not conducive to success...

Matt Hassleback turned out nice, but that's about all he's done...

He was a quaterbacks coach. A position coach. This is the move of a Detroit Lions or an Oakland Raiders. The Redskins under Snyder are many things, but they are not that.

Seriously, at least Fassel has the legitimacy that comes from winning a conference championship. Zorn hardly even did anything as a player :p

Well, Lord Voldemort has hired Jim Zorn as head coach. I am not real familiar with him as a coach, but I have to think he's being put in a situation that is not conducive to success...

Never quite heard of him as Lord Voldemort, but I guess to you guys hes that evil. I would pick almost anyone over Jim Zorn for the skins, I never saw them as that type of team. williams should have had it no problem.

Gregg Easterbrook (aka TMQ) called Snyder Voldemort quite a bit a few years ago.

snyder is a little weasel :) i can't blame guys for turning down the skin's job. and it's too bad, too, b/c skins fans are so damn loyal...it must be painful. reminds me of the norman bramen days in Philly.

Don't think "weasel" is the right term. From what I've read, he's a
straightforward egomanic who only wants to be told what he wants to hear.

you're right...just being fecetious :)

Well his 'wrongs' are swamping his 'rights' :mischief: .

Spygate continues....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/nfl/02/13/specter.goodell.ap/index.html

US senator says that Goodell told him in a meeting that the Patriots have been taping defensive signals since '00...

IF (and this is a big if) this is true, then IMHO Belichick should be suspended for life. This is way beyond a single instance of cheating, and should be punished accordingly...

If it has been for eight years, then why the hell hasn't there been appropriate measures taken?

Darkness sounds like a jaded Rams fan :lol:

I'll pass a judgment on this once a few more coaches and reputable people within the NFL have given their two cents.

Darkness sounds like a jaded Rams fan :lol:

I'll pass a judgment on this once a few more coaches and reputable people within the NFL have given their two cents.


No doubt I'd be seriously pissed off if the Patriots taped the Rams before the 2002 superbowl, but I fully agree with you that one can not judge on the basis of the current facts. More information is needed here, which is why I said:

IF (and this is a big if) this is true...

;)

It's always an if (until proven), but that's sure is a long time without it being leaked somewhere. This thing has a high strange factor.

I want that super bowl trophy in philly is what I want.

Pittsburgh would have beaten Philadelphia that year too. Just so you know :p

oh i won't let you gang up on Mr. Town, Azale :p

we've got Arlen Specter on our side, too :banana: get 'em Arlen!!

I mantain the bears would of won last years superbowl if it weren't for the cheating patriots.

Well the NFL was keeping a pretty close eye on the Pats this year, and look what they did. Perfect regular season under the watchful scrutiny of Goodell, not too shabby.

Does anyone remember Billick calling out Mangini this year for something minor in a Ravens/NYJ game after the whole spygate incident? My theory was it was payback because he and other coaches resented Mangini for calling out another coach over something every coach knows about and every coach takes measures to prevent. Other coaches such as Billick, Cowher and even Jimmy Johnson came to the defense of Belichick, because other coaches know this is not a big deal and happens all the time. Coaches say again and again they know this happens and they change their signals to prevent it, and if you're not doing that you're not a good coach.

we've got Arlen Specter on our side, too :banana: get 'em Arlen!!

That's something to be proud of... I guess.

and what are you saying? save it if it's fresh :nono: