View Full Version : If you Add +1 Atck/def value to artillary will AI use them more?


T.A JONES
Jan 21, 2008, 12:00 PM
Yep that what IM askin

With The seige crowbowman I noticed the AI buildin lots for its war agaist Egypt in the Far Horizons mod

My question is will AI use the bombard attack if its been awarded a higher number then its attack or defence. If not, what about if its just given a defensive value, no attack, or vise-cersa will that help?

Anyone who has expiernced this or has some feedback they can share it would be most welcome. I am lookin forward to learning more about this. Thanks

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/81549/artya1.JPG

http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/81549/CATERPULT_CRUSH.JPG

Virote_Considon
Jan 21, 2008, 12:20 PM
I seem to remember FinnMcCool knowing something about this, although he doesn't frequent the forums much any more...

embryodead
Jan 21, 2008, 12:28 PM
The AI can use only one strategy flag, so if the unit was built for its offensive value, it'll be used only for attacking, not bombardment. I had it in Warhammer mod as well e.g. with dragons, they have the best attack, bombard and good offense as well but the AI only uses them to attack.

It's the same thing as with workers with attack/defense value - it's either a worker or an offensive unit - the AI is incapable of treating it as both.

WildWeazel
Jan 21, 2008, 12:30 PM
Are you trying to get the AI to use artillery as it was meant to be used, or to use this combat unit to bombard as well as attack? From my experience, the AI uses normal artillery units just fine when it has them- usually stolen from me, but they can be pre-placed or spawned.

(crosspost with ed, he explained it better)

T.A JONES
Jan 21, 2008, 02:05 PM
Ya thanks Embyo sir. That about says it. On your remark Weasol OP, Yes I wanted to see if the AI would use more artys correctly. :)

I to have no quams with the way they things are now tell you the truth. Ive seen AI use artys in tow from the last seiged town all the time. Sometimes they amass quite a bunch!
It just seems they do not produce alot after each city has one or two garrisoned. They stay shelled up, thats the main problem with artys today atleast thats what I say...
I was hopin to trigger a massive Arty attack, one ton he scale some humans reley on before they come out of their shell :)

Hey mybe this is what charm does?!..or not :(

Ozymandias
Jan 22, 2008, 09:09 AM
Will a unit w/AF & DF defensively bombard if its strategy is Attack or Defense?

Thx,

Oz

embryodead
Jan 22, 2008, 04:15 PM
Yes, defensive bombardment is automatic. See archers in a lot of mods (or did they even put this into vanilla?).

The Last Conformist
Jan 22, 2008, 05:46 PM
Yes, defensive bombardment is automatic. See archers in a lot of mods (or did they even put this into vanilla?).

Well, they put it into the C3C epic game. :)

againsttheflow
Jan 24, 2008, 05:37 PM
@ TA: this is a little OT but what what program do you use to magnify pics? I would find it handy to quickly magnify a certain portion.