what do you think. if he does they will have a good chance to make it to the superbowl this time.

Favre will return but it won't be good for the packers. He is aging and attempts to throw the ball to much. He forces it into coverag and rogers displayed himself in the cowboys game to be far superior.

so you think aron rodgers is better than brett farve. Brett farve had his best year in his whole carer this year

You're spelling his name wrong it's Favre.

Yes Brett Favre is a play off choke.

Of course he shouldn't, due to the fact that he is almost 40. He has had a steelar career and should han up his glove.

Of course he shouldn't, due to the fact that he is almost 40. He has had a steelar career and should han up his glove.

Before the 2007 season I would have said the exact same thing, but his performance this season showed he has plenty left in that old right arm. The only thing that matters is if he wants it enough. If he's willing to go through training camp etc. again...

After the disappointment of the loss against the Giants (in which Favre hurt his team with those two dumb picks) is dealt with, I think he'll announce he's coming back for one last year. I think he will not allow himself to walk away now, with the team clearly on the rise. He will want to be part of that, and see how far it'll go in the 2008 season...

I don't see why not.

He's been pretty healthy/injury-free his whole career, he's in good shape, and they have plenty of young talent on both sides of the ball to complement his experience.

Yes Brett Favre is a play off choke.

:lol: :lol: Laughable, biased statement from Bears fans...again.

Favre will be back. He'll throw 30 TDs and 16 INTs, but the Pack will make the playoffs, win the Wild Card, go onto play the 'Skins at FedEx, and lose badly, with 38 year old Todd Collins leads coach Bill Cowher to another playoff win.

so you think aron rodgers is better than brett farve. Brett farve had his best year in his whole carer this year

No, 1995 - 1998 were all a lot better.

Of course he will return. The Packers are the youngest team in the NFL even with Favre skewing the numbers, and Aaron Rodgers can't touch the field without breaking his foot.

Favre is not a playoff choker...how do you win a Superbowl and make it to 4 NFC Championships by being a choker?

It's really hard to care, given how he has made such a soap opera of it the
past couple of years.

:lol: :lol: Laughable, biased statement from Bears fans...again.



Perhaps not in the beginning but he sure as hell is now. I remember I think it was six years ago the pack were in the playoffs and he threw a pick right to a defender. He has a tendency to force the ball. Not a very good come from behind quarterback. He can sur as hell get ahead but can't really catch up.

Favre is not a playoff choker...how do you win a Superbowl and make it to 4 NFC Championships by being a choker?

Damn you answered you're own question there. Four nfc games and only one superbowl win.

Perhaps not in the beginning but he sure as hell is now. I remember I think it was six years ago the pack were in the playoffs and he threw a pick right to a defender. He has a tendency to force the ball. Not a very good come from behind quarterback. He can sur as hell get ahead but can't really catch up.


Damn you answered you're own question there. Four nfc games and only one superbowl win.


QB play isn't the only thing that determines who wins the NFC championship game or the Superbowl. It is very important, but if Trent Dilfer can win a Superbowl then you can't argue that QB play is the only thing that wins championships... ;)

No offense intended to Trent Dilfer of course, but he's simply not in the same class as other recent Superbowl winners (Brady, Manning, etc.)

Damn you answered you're own question there. Four nfc games and only one superbowl win.

Let's not forget that his running game in his BEST years was Dorsey Levens. His best receivers were Antonio Freeman, Bob Schroeder, and retreads like "Bad Moon" Rison.

And yet, how many playoff games did he win to get to 4 NFC Championship games and 2 Superbowls?

Your a Bears fan, you made the Superbowl last year and might have an argument on alltime tradition...stop being so jealous :p

I'm terribly jealous of the not nfc champion packers.

I'm terribly jealous of the not nfc champion packers.

They have more Super Bowl wins in your lifetime, so I would be too.

Maybe he will, return, he was just one game away from the Superbowl. I think he might give it a try for one more time, maybe the Pack will make it next year and he can retire at the top of his game.

He'll return probably but won't be as successful next year. The Vikings and the Lions are getting better every year, not even mentioning the Bears, I really don't see the Pack dominating this division. I predict Favre retires at the end of the 08-09 season after going 6-10.

i hope he comes back, he's been playing since i was a kid. Being a dolphin fan it's all i have to look forward to next year. haha.

Favre will be back

Favre will be back

Not coming back. I guess he didn't want to run up that INT record.

Not coming back. I guess he didn't want to run up that INT record.

Or the wins record? TD's record? Completions record? Win another division championship? Try for another MVP to build on his own record?

John Elway is still the greatest QB ever, but Favre is in the top 5.

It'd be smarter if he didn't.

John Elway is still the greatest QB ever, but Favre is in the top 5.


Elway was good, but he's not the best ever. Gotta go with Joe Cool here...

Elway has thrown for more yards in his career (but he also played 40 more games than Montana), but Joe Montana was way more accurate, has a better TD-INT ratio and has won more Superbowls.

A short (regular season) comparison:
Elway: 234 games, 51475 yards, 56.7% completion percentage, 300 TD - 226 INT (1.33 : 1 ratio. 9 Probowls, 5 All-Pro's, 1 NFL MVP.
Montana: 192 games, 40551 yards, 63.2% completion percentage, 273 TD -139 INT (1.96 : 1 ratio). 8 Probowls, 7 All-Pro's, 2 NFL MVP.

Postseason:
Elway: 22 games, 27 TD, 2 superbowl wins, 1 SB MVP
Montana: 23 games, 45 TD, 4 superbowl wins, 3 SB MVP

I will immediately agree that Montana was on better teams than Elway (and that the 49ers system was way more QB-friendly than Denvers' system ever was), but these numbers don't lie: Montana was miles better than Elway. Hell, he was probably miles better than anyone (although current QB's like Brady and Manning may be up there with him eventually, but that's hard to say because they are still playing).

The 5 best quarterbacks of my viewing life are:

Montana
Young
Elway
Marino
P. Manning

If we're talking purely about adulation, Brett Favre is absolutely up there -- he might be the most popular/beloved quarterback I've ever seen -- but I do need to say, the things everybody loves about Favre; "love of the game," competitive fire, being a gamer, being entertaining to watch because he's having fun and/or can think on his feet.

All those guys I mentioned above had that too, and managed not to have it translate into so many forced throws and interceptions. They knew when to fold 'em.

That's the one thing I have NEVER understood about the Cult of Favre in this country; any other quarterback would be castigated for "trying too hard to make something happen" and most quarterbacks are. Yet somehow with Brett Favre it was always "aw shucks he just loves playing the game and trying to make something happen and NEVER GIVE UP" instead of "that was a very stupid thing to do and a starting QB should know better than to hurt his team by forcing that bad pass there" as they say for every other quarterback, even other great ones. Somehow Brett Favre is Leader Of The Party, and The Party Can Never Be Mistaken.

And to be fair Brett himself has little to do with that. I lay this mostly at the feet of Football broadcasters and sportswriters. For several years I've been actively rooting/hoping for him to retire and go away, just so I don't have to listen to all of that anymore.

Apparently he is having a press conference tommorow morning so I think he is done

Don't worry, he's fine (http://www.theonion.com/content/news/packers_tell_fans_they_gave_favre)

I have no idea what this thread is about, but I still participated in the poll.

I have no idea what this thread is about, but I still participated in the poll.

I have no idea what you just said, but I still quoted it.

From John Czarnecki at FOX Sports (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7951584/Favre-hasn't-filed-...-is-it-just-a-formality?&MSNHPHMA):

When Brett Favre finally called it a career earlier this off-season, he certainly gave the impression that he wasn't having any second thoughts about riding off into the sunset.

But almost a month later, Favre still hasn't taken the final step to make his retirement official. He hasn't filed his retirement papers with the NFL Management Council.
I am curious about Favre not filing his retirement papers. What if he got all emotional about the Packers not making a second attempt at signing Randy Moss — this playoff team is so far under the salary cap it's ridiculous — that he simply became frustrated and quit? People can make some strange decisions when they get mad about something.

Couple that with his feeling that Coach Mike McCarthy and GM Ted Thompson weren't exactly begging him to return for another season, and I can see Favre making a knee-jerk reaction. When he retired, Favre said it was tough living up to his image. But even after 17 seasons, he was a top-five quarterback last season. He can still play.

I wrote before that McCarthy seems quite willing to move on without Favre. Aaron Rodgers needs to play before he reaches free agency. But you can bet that neither McCarthy nor Thompson wanted to be known as the men who nudged Favre out of Green Bay. That would amount to political suicide throughout Wisconsin.

The next move belongs to Favre.

If Favre doesn't file his retirement papers pretty soon, the only conclusion is that he is having second thoughts and still wants to play. How wild is that? Well, it isn't totally crazy because retirement is the toughest decision in sports; it's why grown men cry at those press conferences, knowing they will never again play the game that they've loved for years.

But if Favre wants to play, will he force himself back onto the Packers? Or will he ask for his release?

I hate to say this, but Thompson would never give Favre his unconditional release. He can't afford to have Favre playing somewhere else; it's just bad politics.

But, to be honest, if Favre really wants to play again, he would be better off on a team like Baltimore or Tampa Bay, a playoff-caliber team that needs a quarterback shot in the arm. We all know it would simply be a one- or two-year stint.

In the past, whenever a trade seemed to make sense, Favre always said that he'd retire before finishing his career somewhere else. He was old-fashioned; he wanted to keep his legacy intact.

The next move is Brett's. File those papers and the speculation ends. But until he does, fans must wonder what he's really thinking

Perhaps this thread ain't dead yet.

It's time for him to go. He's jerked the Packer's chain before. by delaying his decision in the off-season to play or not. If he does it again, he's only hurting the team's ability to plan for the future. Leave already....: