View Full Version : 1650 A.D Scenario start


Nahtanoj
Feb 02, 2008, 09:03 PM
Im new at this so i may take some time... Im starting to make a scenario for around 1650 AD, where North America is partially being dominated by spain England France and a little of Russia. So far im researching the locations and names of cities and placingthem. I need some help with renaming leaders like England France and all the others. In World Builder im usiong the 1000 AD map and civs which ill have to switch around so... if you wanna help with this or play as a test or something than your welcome here. So plz help i really want this to get going.

P.S This is my first scenario

Email me at : Jonjonboy123@yahoo.com :king:

Nahtanoj
Feb 02, 2008, 09:17 PM
http://i28.tinypic.com/2yo5mbs.jpg

So far ive just took a blind guess at the North American cities but ive researched more so now i have a better idea as to what their location and names where:goodjob:

JEELEN
Feb 03, 2008, 03:03 AM
Good for you!:thumbsup: (I'm guessing you've corrected the names in the screenshot then...) 't Would be helpful if you stated the scope and/or purpose of your scenario though; for instance, is it North America only? :confused:

Nahtanoj
Feb 03, 2008, 09:20 AM
Good for you!:thumbsup: (I'm guessing you've corrected the names in the screenshot then...) 't Would be helpful if you stated the scope and/or purpose of your scenario though; for instance, is it North America only? :confused:

Yeah... its probably going to be north and south America because i wanna have it when spain controls most of south america and half of north america, english 13 colonies, and french louisiana.

Fin Imperial
Feb 03, 2008, 01:16 PM
I've done some research and discovered the kings of England and France. I'll send them in PM to you, ok?

Nahtanoj
Feb 03, 2008, 06:36 PM
I've done some research and discovered the kings of England and France. I'll send them in PM to you, ok?


On the map im going to have the americas but still incorporateother civs from europe

Nahtanoj
Feb 03, 2008, 06:38 PM
for eastern north america i have this for countries and placments

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.wadsworth.com/history_d/templates/student_resources/0030724791_ayers/images/2.1.map.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wadsworth.com/history_d/templates/student_resources/0030724791_ayers/maps/2.1.html&h=777&w=600&sz=73&hl=en&start=28&um=1&tbnid=l8DKAFty03DUwM:&tbnh=142&tbnw=110&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmap%2Bof%2Bnorth%2Bamerica%2Bcountrie s%2B1650%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26um%3D1%26hl%3D en%26rls%3DSUNA,SUNA:2006-46,SUNA:en%26sa%3DN

Padma
Feb 06, 2008, 11:10 AM
Thread moved. Please keep preliminary discussion in the main C&C forum. When you have a complete scenario, post it in the Scenarios subforum. Thanks. :)

Ambreville
Feb 07, 2008, 11:20 AM
Have a look at my mod. It's for an earlier version of Warlords unfortunately -- but at least it does have lots of useful info as to the location of main colonies and Indian tribes.

Nahtanoj
Feb 13, 2008, 04:07 PM
this is going to be a mod for regular civ 4 vanilla. ive worked on this map and made changes to the last one.http://i26.tinypic.com/b87b5t.jpg


im going to add more of the fur resouce in new france and whale on the north east coast.

i used sevin forkbeard or someone as dutch...because of a lack of space i had to willmington for the swedish.

if anyone can help plz find a link for a map of spanish conquered land in north america and south:goodjob:

Nahtanoj
Feb 14, 2008, 08:04 AM
currently working on south america

Yakk
Feb 14, 2008, 09:56 AM
Honestly, you need a different map. One that zooms in on north america.

See that river on the NE of your image? That's the St. Lawrence. Both Montreal and Quebec are on that river. Montreal is where the river "forks" into two paths, and Quebec is half way between that and the ocean. Both are on the North side of the river...

Ie, you need a larger map! :)

Try grabing a "huge earth map", and then cutting out everything except North America maybe?

Nahtanoj
Feb 14, 2008, 10:06 AM
Honestly, you need a different map. One that zooms in on north america.

See that river on the NE of your image? That's the St. Lawrence. Both Montreal and Quebec are on that river. Montreal is where the river "forks" into two paths, and Quebec is half way between that and the ocean. Both are on the North side of the river...

Ie, you need a larger map! :)

Try grabing a "huge earth map", and then cutting out everything except North America maybe?

Well im doing the colonalization of north AND south america so im probably going to construct my own map or cut it from others


thanks for the suggestion:goodjob:

Fin Imperial
Feb 14, 2008, 11:49 AM
Tried GEM 4.2?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253945

Nahtanoj
Feb 15, 2008, 12:15 PM
Tried GEM 4.2?
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253945

if i get permisson im going to use this north america map. this has all the places that i orginally wanted(but mostly not south america). the best part is that i can include russia with alaska and near the wwest coast.

:) http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=156907

Nahtanoj
Feb 28, 2008, 06:54 PM
rather than trying to get a request for the north american map... ihave updated my computer so i can run GEM!

so now the world will be in corrpurrated or sumtin like that.

i have patch 1.74 and civ vanilla
this will be a simple scenario for all.

i need help with renaming civs

thanks to anyone intrested for helpin

Nahtanoj
Mar 03, 2008, 05:28 PM
This is great!
I can now write my xml documents including the leaderheads and civs!
im actually not using the gem since its my first map :lol:

im stickin with the NA map i found, since i havent gotten any reply im going to use it... if you take a look at it im going to be usin these civs in it

america= kingdom of england led by James VI king of the scotts
Persian= Dutch








editing sooner post on this

kevinman4404
Mar 09, 2008, 12:12 AM
Hey Nahtanoj

For a map you can always cut my map and remove the resources :P

Also, I should have all the historical knowledge you need, all xml/ART!!!, and some coding assistance you need to give. You can consider me a joined team member; pm me if you have a specific request, though I'll watch your thread too (annoyingly, thread subscription's no longer work for me :( )

and thanks for watching my mod grow :P

Kevin :)

EDIT: Also, what do you mean with help renaming civs? Is this going to be a miniature mod?

Nahtanoj
Mar 12, 2008, 02:42 PM
Hey Nahtanoj

For a map you can always cut my map and remove the resources :P

Also, I should have all the historical knowledge you need, all xml/ART!!!, and some coding assistance you need to give. You can consider me a joined team member; pm me if you have a specific request, though I'll watch your thread too (annoyingly, thread subscription's no longer work for me :( )

and thanks for watching my mod grow :P

Kevin :)

EDIT: Also, what do you mean with help renaming civs? Is this going to be a miniature mod?

What I mean by Renaming civs is going into the xml and leader head info and change the names to what they were at that time



any way welcome to the team ill update my sig

kevinman4404
Mar 13, 2008, 10:34 PM
Sorry I may be a bit slow through the forums right now. Do you still need Spanish maps? I'll pm you with what I think of civ names/name changes shortly.

I would suggest, if this is a historic map, that you adapt this from RFC, so that you can control what happens territorially, but if not, maybe we can program some territorial elements in all the same. If from RFC, it would be a matter of making a few settler maps (which I can do in about half an hour per civ), deleting some civs (from xml and sdk) and doing some mild sdk reference adding/deleting.

Kevin

kevinman4404
Mar 14, 2008, 01:46 PM
And second of all for the map- I'm not sure which you are using (the guy's or GEM). GEM is a nice map, but with north america, the land is vertically squished and horizontally stretched, and until recently, had too much tundra. So for a north-am. centered map you'd probably look at something else to cut from. And it should be big- since you're focusing on a smaller area of the world, you really should take advantage of the extra available space.

I just looked at the map you wanted to get permission for, and I must say I was drawn in by the well-drawn outline. But it has a few major flaws. For example, the way he/she drew the land types (tundra, snow, plains, grassland) is really out there, and there is hardly any permanent snowcover. It's going to require a lot of work to fix the land, to add South America if you want it, and there are still a few minor geographical problems that could more easily be fixed.

I'll do a rough outline for a N/S America map, let me know if it is what you're looking for. With something as small as NA, it (the entire map) could potentially be done in a week, seeing as I have my world map to make reference to.

Next question, would you want some North/Central/South American -centered resources? A few examples would be bison and indigo (though I don't know what the latter is).

I do suggest you borrow my thinsoil texture (for most of Eastern and kinda Northern Canada) and my wasteland (for patagonia). I didn't before realize you were making a minimod, not just a scenario.

I'll email you scanned pages from Oxford's atlas of world history, for all the North American and especially Native borders, and (well, I forget).

Finally, note that (and this may be wrong, this is how I've always seen forums) if something is released into public downloads on a forum, it's public domain, as long as you credit it (under some copyright law).

I realize that's a lot to think about
Kevin

Nahtanoj
Mar 19, 2008, 02:56 PM
wow! sounds great.... well if you want to we can use N/S America.
I was planning to balance power out by using northerne part of SA for Spain rather than have it covered with spain.


Bison would be a great resource and same goes for indigo. Thin soil i dea is better then plain grass/whatever else

I'll be adding Native Nations into the civ list along with France Britain Sapin Russia and other smaller.

i've used a mod named REvolution where civs can revolt and break away (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=171127)

RFC is great but that would seem a little hard for me to do so for righgt now i'll think


Thanks Kevman for everything above :)
and Finimperial for historical info:thumbsup:

Nahtanoj
Mar 21, 2008, 08:07 PM
Found a great map!
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=146807

It seems great for this type of scenario
goin to be editing map with resources and adding civs like dutch and portugese.

kevinman4404
Apr 08, 2008, 07:41 PM
A few suggestions for the map you chose:
1) to fix Quebec and the Maritimes
2) to thicken Mexico
3) to fix the West coast, especially Vancouver Island,
4) straigtehn out Florida a bit.

Otherwise it looks OK.

If I have any more suggestions on the map I'll edit into this post.

NwabudikeMorgan
Apr 08, 2008, 08:54 PM
Sounds like good stuff, looking for ward to playing it when it's ready, keep up the good work.

Nahtanoj
Apr 09, 2008, 05:42 AM
kevin im going to do his update your way from your map


kevin> working on the map ight now, brought to my attention mexico and will soon bee adding small islands in pacific


morgan> thanks! one of the first to stop by and check it out:D

kevinman4404
Apr 10, 2008, 11:36 PM
kevin im going to do his update your way from your map
???

Also, at this point, I would reccomend making a todo list, so me and others can find some ways to help out.

If you are intent on doing certain stuff you could always gray it out.

My mod's having troubles loading its map, so I should have some time to assist in whatever tasks.

Kevin

Nahtanoj
Apr 16, 2008, 07:07 PM
???

Also, at this point, I would reccomend making a todo list, so me and others can find some ways to help out.

If you are intent on doing certain stuff you could always gray it out.

My mod's having troubles loading its map, so I should have some time to assist in whatever tasks.

Kevin

nvm on the first one:lol:

im still new at coding stuff so im kinda lost on that (like renaming civs within scenario)

right now im still modifying the map and editing resource placment

still need more research done on time period for colonies



overall is running slow but smoothly :cool: