Wow... The picture just says it all, I am first of all really pissed and second... err... pissedededed.... if that's a word...

(Excessive use of periods in this thread needed due to my pissedededness). (Please continue reading).


(and yes I did save as .gif to save time in the uploading process on tinypic).
(Excessive use of parenthesis also needed).

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Anyone tell me what :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: ... won't say it, is wrong? Please help me and I will love you in a none gay kind of way, so you don't get uncomfortable :D .

EDIT: And yes I do realize this computer sucks but my dad won't make one until this new motherboard or cpu (can't remember which) comes out... I think it's an AMD cpu or a Asus Motherboard, either one, doesn't matter.

Anyone tell me what :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: ... won't say it, is wrong?

Easy. It's because you don't have enough disk space. Civilization 4 Beyond the Sword takes up something like 2 gigabytes of hard-drive space, you only have 1.88.

It specifically said 1.7 gb, and I compressed and cleaned up the disk. Yes I do realize I have an old comp, and it's so screwed up that I can't copy files by hand, I have to do it with cmd, and I can't move or cut and paste... heh, I know don't laugh.

It specifically said 1.7 gb, and I compressed and cleaned up the disk. Yes I do realize I have an old comp, and it's so screwed up that I can't copy files by hand, I have to do it with cmd, and I can't move or cut and paste... heh, I know don't laugh.

If I recall correctly, the OS usually prevents you from installing software if the installation will occupy all but a sliver of free space. Which is a good thing, because for starters, you wouldn't have much room for savegames after installation, let alone for anything else.

true, okay I'll try to free up as much space as I can thanks for the advice dude! :)

true, okay I'll try to free up as much space as I can thanks for the advice dude! :)

No problem, glad I could help :)

Let's hug it out dude... lol classic man classic XD

Which is a good thing, because for starters, you wouldn't have much room for savegames after installation, let alone for anything else.
Or more importantly, you wouldn't have much room for your swap file; a lack of space for that will slow your computer to a crawl!

Or more importantly, you wouldn't have much room for your swap file; a lack of space for that will slow your computer to a crawl!

That too, I completely forgot about the swap file.

What the hell is going on in that screen shot? It beggars belief that you would have an 8 GB hard drive, then two other local disks. Has a respectable sized hard drive been partitioned into multiple drives for some reason? If so, why not just install vanilla and BTS on one of those?

do NOT compress your hard disks, especially if you are running the operating system on that disk. You will kill your performance and likely run into other issues.

Like how Dagta? Because then I just screwed myself over

EDIT: But I didn't compress the whole disc, only some parts of it... is that okay??

I wouldnt call it beyond belief to have a bunch of 5-20GB drives, back in NT4 days I knew some programers for Wells fargo that gave me any parts they didnt want after upgrades. A handfull of drives is nice for orginization.

true, okay I'll try to free up as much space as I can thanks for the advice dude! :)

FYI - Windoze likes to have 10-15% of the disc free for its own maintenance stuff (so it can fragment, I mean defrag, etc,. files). You might want to try installing on one of your other partitions (drives?).

Or, dude... get a new computer. ;) You'll appreciate it for the better running Civ IV you'll get. :P

dude, hard drives are cheap. buy the smallest one you can get and add it to your machine and move all your files to that.

here http://3btech.net/ma4054rpmini.html $24 adds 5 times your current space.

Easy. It's because you don't have enough disk space. Civilization 4 Beyond the Sword takes up something like 2 gigabytes of hard-drive space, you only have 1.88.

He doesn't even have that much. Part of that 1.88 is being used by the page file.

He doesn't even have that much. Part of that 1.88 is being used by the page file.
No it isn't. PAGEFILE.SYS isn't accessed like a normal file, but it's stored like one, so the free space reported is accurate.

The correct answer is buried above somewhere. Use one of the other drives in the system for installation. The insistence of Windows on installing everything to the OS drive is a boneheadedness that should have been nipped in the bud a while ago.

He doesn't even have that much. Part of that 1.88 is being used by the page file.


Exactly, the page file needs to be about 2x the size of your memory. So a machine with 512 megs of memory needs at least a gig for the page file.

Exactly, the page file needs to be about 2x the size of your memory. So a machine with 512 megs of memory needs at least a gig for the page file.

I have always been told by comp dudes to never increase it past 1gig. Dont see why you would even need to either. The reasoning for this is that your comp itself has to manage the page file so if your page file is huge then your comp is spending more resources managing it than it is recieving from being larger. Is this correct?

EdiT* I have never seen my page file fill over 400mb..

I have always been told by comp dudes to never increase it past 1gig. Dont see why you would even need to either. The reasoning for this is that your comp itself has to manage the page file so if your page file is huge then your comp is spending more resources managing it than it is recieving from being larger. Is this correct?

EdiT* I have never seen my page file fill over 400mb..
No, it's not correct.

The page file should be set to the amount of memory you have or more. The latter only if you have less than 2GB of memory or so.

It doesn't cost any resources (other than drive space) to have a page file larger than you use in practice. It does, however, cost a lot in performance to expand the page file on the fly, which is why it should have a large initial size.

It should also be non-fragmented. Either use a boot-time defrag, or set the page file size to zero, reboot, run a normal defrag to consolidate free space, then create the page file again.

Mircrosoft training suggests that there should be a pagefile equal to the size if your physical memory place on each logical disk drive.

I dont know why you cant play the game.
What I do know is that you have installed Civ 4 on the C hard drive. The C hard drive is where your windows is installed therefor it is not recommended to install many things there.

The reason why you may not have enough disk space even though Civ IV says it needs 1.7 GB and you have 1.88 GB free could be due to the re-definition of what 1 GB means.

In geek speak, 1 GB is 1024 bytes * 1024 bytes * 1024 bytes = 1073741824 bytes (I think that's correct; my point is that 1 GB is more than 1 billion bytes).

In order to be more "user-friendly", some systems, or some programs within systems, will arbitrarily redefine 1 GB to mean 1 billion bytes when displaying their output.

Windows is notorious for not complying with standard definitions, in the name of "usability" -- even if there is no good reason for the redefinition. Although I don't know in this instance in particular, I have had Windows programs in the past report using the redefined 1 GB = 1 billion bytes instead of the proper definition.