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thomas.berubeg
Feb 11, 2008, 02:41 PM
Is there a written story behind Brigid? (She's always fascinated me)

I know she refused to fall with Bhall, and was impriosoned for it, but why?

also, if Odio's prison is a unique feature, why isn't Brigid's Prison.

I'de imagine it as a glowing citadel of ice, and would probably give culture to the city near it. (Artsist, poets, and composers inspired by the Lights)

Kael
Feb 11, 2008, 03:17 PM
Is there a written story behind Brigid? (She's always fascinated me)

I know she refused to fall with Bhall, and was impriosoned for it, but why?

also, if Odio's prison is a unique feature, why isn't Brigid's Prison.

I'de imagine it as a glowing citadel of ice, and would probably give culture to the city near it. (Artsist, poets, and composers inspired by the Lights)

Brigit is actually on the design doc for "Shaodw" but it hasnt been implemented yet. There is a function I need for it to work they way we designed it that hasnt been created yet.

reverend oats
Feb 11, 2008, 03:40 PM
How? Unique feature? Quest? Just a little hint, please.

thomas.berubeg
Feb 11, 2008, 04:54 PM
:please: :please: :please: Hint :please: :please: :please:

respectfully,
thomas

Rex rgis of Ter
Feb 11, 2008, 04:55 PM
How? Unique feature? Quest? Just a little hint, please.

A Unique Feature is like the Tomb of Suceluus, or Odio's Prison.

QQuests are going to be implemented later in the game.

thomas.berubeg
Mar 19, 2008, 02:37 PM
so, Kael... any update on Brigid?

Kael
Mar 19, 2008, 03:32 PM
Shes supposed to be a unique feature. Trapped in a tile, surrounded by a glowing ring that you have to <<meet the requirements>> before you can enter. If you can enter the tile she is capturable and will join you.

thomas.berubeg
Mar 19, 2008, 04:08 PM
sounds good... is she going to have any powers reflecting her back story?

Kael
Mar 19, 2008, 04:12 PM
sounds good... is she going to have any powers reflecting her back story?

I would think, but that hasnt been determined yet.

xienwolf
Mar 19, 2008, 04:16 PM
Yipee! I want a pet Angel! (So does that mean eventually you can also get Odio free? Could be intriguing...)

thewyrm
Mar 19, 2008, 05:08 PM
God I love this game.

MagisterCultuum
Mar 19, 2008, 06:25 PM
Yeah, freeing Odio too would be quite nice. Would it be too much to ask to have a UNique Feature/rare event that can give you an avatar level hero from each sphere?

thomas.berubeg
Mar 19, 2008, 06:26 PM
I wouldn't mid that as long as it's very rare...

xienwolf
Mar 19, 2008, 06:33 PM
Heh heh. Could always require 5 Nodes of that Sphere, then it'd be bloody rare indeed, until you TRY for them :)

thomas.berubeg
Mar 19, 2008, 07:06 PM
How about requiring one of the towers be built? it'd be kind of rare, even then...

How about both this and Xienwolf's suggestion :p

Mewtarthio
Mar 19, 2008, 11:44 PM
Yeah, freeing Odio too would be quite nice. Would it be too much to ask to have a UNique Feature/rare event that can give you an avatar level hero from each sphere?

That could be a bit much. Besides, what would you do for the Death sphere or the Water sphere?

MagisterCultuum
Mar 19, 2008, 11:51 PM
A simple "yes" would have sufficed. :p

I wasn't really thinking that every sphere needs one, just that having more than one (or two) such unique features/events could be nice. Only those that fit into the back story should be included.

thomas.berubeg
Mar 20, 2008, 11:30 AM
i'd really like to see a redeemed orcish faction, maybe vassals to another civ, under Brigid...

Ekolite
Mar 21, 2008, 05:33 AM
You could make a new leader for the clan of embers? Just make her neutral and there you go.

Fenboy
Mar 21, 2008, 06:29 AM
Hell, convert Sheelba/Jonas to RoK, Order or Empyrean, free Brigid and there you go :p

thomas.berubeg
Mar 22, 2008, 06:11 PM
Here's my Brigid Idea

Brigid is Freed from her Prison.

A new Civ enters the Game with a few settlers and era appropriate units, as well as Brigid Unit. (the Clan, with the leader being Brigid) (works even if the clan is already in the game)

the player is given the option of playing as Brigid (could use the Switch Civ event already in the game)

The Clan (under Brigid) is in a permanant alliance with the freeing civ.

Brigid (the unit) would have a Rantine like ability to convert Barbarian Cities to her civ as long as she is strongest in the city, and would have Fire I, II, and III (divine). hell, she could even convert defeated orcish units to her civ.

This works, as it doesn't create a new civ (no 22 civs, still 21.)

Brigid would naturally be an unplayable laader as the clan from the begining.

Brigid's traits: Aggressive, Charismatic, Spiritual, (agnostic?)

If you get rid of the beard
http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs14/f/2007/093/0/a/Sunset_Fire_by_Saimain.jpg


Brigid would work to try to Bring Bhall Back from evil, to make her rise again, or if she can't do that, Kill her...

Tyrs
Mar 22, 2008, 06:16 PM
Sounds cool, but you'd need to make her barbarian for the Rantine-like ability to work, which I'm not sure fits the flavor of being good. As for the leaderhead pic, the entire face would need to be changed, along with the ears. Other than that it sounds pretty awesome

thomas.berubeg
Mar 22, 2008, 06:17 PM
damn, your right about that Rantine Problem.

Do you think the orcs would let her into thier cities? :p

Seriously... the orcs might let her in, just from her connection to bhall... Bhall might hope to bring Brigid down too... (IIRC Bhall couldn't bring herself to Kill Brigid, but instead imprisoned her. now that she is free, she might try again to bring her down... (which coiuld be represented by events...)

xienwolf
Mar 23, 2008, 01:58 AM
Invisible gets you into the cities as well. Mildly appropriate for her to have that promotion/ability.

MagisterCultuum
Mar 23, 2008, 08:30 AM
Invisible will only get you there if the unit does not have the ability to attack.

I'm not sure that anyone called "the Shining" would be invisible. If her light can be seen from all across Erebus (their Aurora Borealis), I doubt it would not be seen close up.

I was just thinking that it would be really cool for your units to be able to occupy the same space as blinded units without combat. Of course, since you would probably still want the ability to attack these units this probably wouldn't work well. Why can't attacking be a separate command from moving (requiring a right click or something)? I'd much prefer that.

Her having the ability to blind does make sense. It might be nice for the spell to be called by a pyPerTurn function of either the unit (if they add this tag to the unit schema like I've requiested) or a promotion only she has to blind units nearby automatically.

thomas.berubeg
Mar 23, 2008, 09:05 AM
She might be able to contorl her light, only blazing away in prison to try to get someone to save her...

there woudl have to be a spell for her to, once on a tile with other people, lets her attack.


Also, now that i think about it, she wouldn't ally herself with just anyone...
she would hate the Sheim, the Calabim, and any other evil civ, and probably not like the Grigori, and the feeling would be mutual...

thomas

thomas.berubeg
Mar 23, 2008, 10:47 AM
More Possible Brigids:

http://images.epilogue.net/users/jae/Death_from_Above.jpg

http://images.epilogue.net/users/jae/WarWizard.jpg

Kael
Mar 23, 2008, 11:44 AM
Jason Engle is awesome.

Seventh Star
Mar 23, 2008, 11:49 AM
Actually, I would think the she would get along just fine with Cassiel, given her experiences with falling gods.

Fenboy
Mar 23, 2008, 11:52 AM
Also, now that i think about it, she wouldn't ally herself with just anyone...she would hate the Sheim, the Calabim, and any other evil civ, and probably not like the Grigori, and the feeling would be mutual...

thomas

Likewise, Odio would probably refuse to ally with good civs, though neutral civs, even those following RoK could be understood (we put you in the ground, we'll let you out but you follow us now).

MagisterCultuum
Mar 23, 2008, 01:15 PM
I'd expect that Brigit would get along best with Empyrean civs.

thomas.berubeg
Mar 23, 2008, 02:43 PM
I'll bring this up with Vehem, see if he could be convinced to add Brigid to his MOdmod, unless kael is tempted... ;)

and, yes, jason engles is awesome. you spoke to him, right kael?

Kael
Mar 23, 2008, 02:46 PM
I'll bring this up with Vehem, see if he could be convinced to add Brigid to his MOdmod, unless kael is tempted... ;)

and, yes, jason engles is awesome. you spoke to him, right kael?

Yeap, talked to him all about FfH. He showed me some art he is working on that hasnt been released yet that is even better than his current stuff. He said we are welcome to use his art for the mod, he's a very nice guy.

msb45
Mar 23, 2008, 08:14 PM
Likewise, Odio would probably refuse to ally with good civs, though neutral civs, even those following RoK could be understood (we put you in the ground, we'll let you out but you follow us now).

I can't really see any of these characters being coerced by the civilizations of man - these are after all, angels of the same stature as basium and hyborem, temporarily imprisoned for challenging the will of their gods (Brigit was archangel to the most powerful of the gods before her fall) - once free, their power would be far beyond any coercion.

Vehem
Mar 25, 2008, 06:13 AM
I'll bring this up with Vehem, see if he could be convinced to add Brigid to his MOdmod, unless kael is tempted... ;)

and, yes, jason engles is awesome. you spoke to him, right kael?

I think we can assume "Kael is tempted" - though possibly not in exactly the way described.


Brigit is actually on the design doc for "Shaodw" but it hasnt been implemented yet. There is a function I need for it to work they way we designed it that hasnt been created yet.

I quite like the ideas for her as described, but don't want to conflict with something Kael has planned already.

thomas.berubeg
Mar 25, 2008, 11:31 AM
i think he was referring to getting the Brigid Unit.

xienwolf
Mar 25, 2008, 02:24 PM
Well, it'd be a bit silly if Vehem made Brigid a leader, and you were then able to run out and free yourself. Or worse, have one of the OTHER civilizations free you and begin taking over your cities with their highly promoted YOU.

thomas.berubeg
Mar 25, 2008, 02:32 PM
what i meant is that Brigid's branch of the clan enters the game as soon as she is freed... so she wouldn't be able to free herself, unless someone went in and cheated.

Vehem
Mar 25, 2008, 02:50 PM
what i meant is that Brigid's branch of the clan enters the game as soon as she is freed... so she wouldn't be able to free herself, unless someone went in and cheated.

Interesting option, but I think I'll still wait to see what Kael has planned :D

Rex rgis of Ter
Mar 25, 2008, 05:37 PM
A new civ for her in Vehem could be added. A mixture of Orcs (low level) and Aasimar (high level) units. They enter once the Pyre has been destroyed or Brigid is freed. She then becomes an ally of the freeing/destroying empire.