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Rex rgis of Ter
Feb 16, 2008, 08:36 PM
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Fellowship of Leaves Information Post

Introduction and Sources
This guide is used to introduce new players to the world of the Fellowship of Leaves. The Religion Page (http://kael.civfanatics.net/Religions.shtml)is an interesting place to browse through religions. In adition to that, my Council of Esus Thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=6326057) is another religious thread. Screenshots will be added soon.

Basic Lore

The Fellowship is a very unstructured religion in Erebus's lore. It's patron god, Cerruneous, is the youngest an weakest of the gods. This means his authority over the religion is limted, and different strains are plentiful. For this reason the religion is purely neutral, as there is little agreement.The different groups are marked by similar characteristics, a deep respect for nature and life, though not any particular life. They all worship Cerruneous, though I think they also worship Sucellus and Amataon. A team member would be welcome to coorect me. The Fellowship is powerful among the elves, as well as sayts and other sub human races.

The Ancient Forests

A primary focus of the Fellowship is in forests. Forests in the Fellowship's land has two main features. The first is that these forests can turn into Ancient Forests, which increases the tile's food output. When enemies invade, ancient forests can soawn treants, or giant tree men, to defend your land. Whenever an enemy enter a ancient forest, neighboring wnciwnt forests have a 5% cchance of spawning Treants, which last for 3 turns. If the city nearby the forest has a Temple of Leaves, the chance of the treant spawning is increased to 15%.

Heroes of the Fellowship

There are two heroes that require a fellowship state religion, Yvain the Woodelf, and Kithra Kyriel.

Yvain the Woodelf- Yvain is a very powerful druid unit. He becomes avalable at Commune with Nature. He is a definte must have for any FoL player, as he is another unit to vitalize the land, as well as create forests to turn into Ancient Forests. (Civilopedia Page (http://phrasr.com/ffh/pedia.php?p=UNIT_YVAIN))

Kithra Kyriel- Kithra requires Feral bond, and is a mounted horse archer hero. He is one of the fastest units in the game, making even the Hippus jealous. (Civilopedia Page (http://phrasr.com/ffh/pedia.php?p=UNIT_KITHRA))

Saytrs and Fauns

Saytrs and Fauns are two units only available to the Fellowship.Fauns are buildable in any city, and start with woodsman 1. Level 4 fauns can be uprgraded to Saytrs, which have a specail ability called mesmerize. Mezmerize can be cast on any beast or animal unit within 1 tile of the caster, and converts the unit to the player.

Priest of Leaves

Priests of Leaves are very specail priests, they not only cast Divine spells, but also sorcery. This doubles their spells. Priests start with Life and Nature Magic, and upgrade to High Priests and Inquisitros like normal priests.

Guardian of Nature and Temple of Leaves

Guardian of Nature is a economic civic unlocked by a FoL specific tech, Hidden Paths. It allows hiuge cities,with the following bonuses.


+5 health per city
+1 happiness from forest, ancient forest, jungle


These bonuses, combined with the Temple of Leaves, gives huge cities. The temple of Leaves gives additional health and happiness in the city. It also allows the creation of priest of leaves, and happiness with incense.

Overview

The fellowship is all about two things, Huge cities and ancient forests. Using the religion carefully, you can create cities with no unhealth or unhappiness that are size 25+. Ancient forests are effective barriers and places to summon treants from.

Rex rgis of Ter
Feb 16, 2008, 08:40 PM
Fellowship of Leaves Synergies and Strategies

This section is used for refrence of some fellowship strategies, as well as synergies other players have suggested. Please share your strategies for this religion!

Ljosalfar/Svaralfar- Yor workers can build on top of forests, so you can get the effects of an ancient forest combined with a farm or cottage.

When in Hell- Hell is notorius for bringing bad health and unhappiness. Temples of leaves and Guardian of Nature is a good counter to offset these effects while you crusade against the defilers of nature.

xienwolf
Feb 16, 2008, 09:23 PM
Just wanted to say Rex, you make my Sig a better place :)

Hopefully someday Grey Fox returns and can add all of this into the PDF which will be included with the Mod.

Rex rgis of Ter
Feb 17, 2008, 11:08 AM
Glad you like it.:)

Monkeyfinger
Feb 17, 2008, 12:13 PM
When enemies invade, ancient forests can soawn treants, or giant tree men, to defend your land.

lol wut? I wasn't aware of anything other than the Ljosalfar world spell that could do this. Enlighten me?

kenken244
Feb 17, 2008, 12:47 PM
each time an enemy stack tries to enter a aincent forest controlled by a fellowship player, it has a 5% chance of spawning a treant for 2 turns. if the plot in question is in the radii of a city with a temple of leaves, the precentage increases to 15%, this makes the elves very dangerous to pillage even if they spam roads

Darkheart
Feb 19, 2008, 12:31 AM
I asked a similar question about whether the chance was by stack or per unit in the stack. Kael replied stating the chance was for the FIRST unit only to enter the square.

Xienwolf then came up with a brilliant one :-

More important than moving in stacks, it reveals that if you were to leave a trail of units in each ancient forest you would NEVER spawn a treant, because you wouldn't ever again move into an unoccupied Ancient Forest.

..... your attack strat for LJ's :)

Edit: Blaze is good :devil:

Ksi
Feb 19, 2008, 09:45 AM
Is leaves really the answer to hell? Hell does not corrupt trees but destroys them. I would think another religion would offer a better bonus than just +5 health for city.

Demus
Feb 23, 2008, 03:19 PM
don't forget +1 happiness for every ancient forest in the BFC. Besides that, FoL is one of the most defensive religions in the game, cutting down the movement of all non-raider units to a crawl while continuously harrassing them with your woodsman 2 recon units (for this reason alone, i believe svaraltar is better for FoL than Ljos).

As for building up, please add the following subjects to your guide:
1. priests of leaves with nature 2 = bloom = forests in every non-mine/quarry tile. Also makes incense the most vital resource in the game for a FoL player (above the metals, reagents, horses etc)
2. hunters - fawns... which one to build? hunters get a negative multiplier for cities, but are cheaper and get a better bonus against animals (i think, correct me if i'm wrong).
3. farms-cottages. both a CE and a SE are very viable for a leaves player (elven expecially, since they can build farms and cottages on forests). CE because you've still got a decent food and hammer yield, while running cottages on every tile in your BFC. SE because of the high food yield and insane health/happiness.

As for strategies:
I prefer calender first (if you've got plantation res. within range, else skip this untill later), followed with education to get cottages running in your forests (i play FoL as CE). Writing if you think you can get the great sage, else hunting -> myst (can be switched around depending on deer/fur and need for hunters), then FoL. You should have found a city site with incense at this stage.
After founding FoL, go for drama for the great bard (song of autumn, unless you've got a civ like balseraph in your game who will likely beat you to it, in that case pop one or a prophet from your temple), then rush priesthood for your priests of leaves. with their poison blades and bloom they're one of the most important units for FoL.
Afterwards, get your remaining economical techs, then start persuing your recon line. Going for CoE is also viable (expecially for the winter elves).

This is the way i play a FoL civ, i'm sure there are other players around who play at a higher level than me, and have got a better strategy than this one. But hey, it's a start ;-)

Nefelia
Feb 26, 2008, 09:21 PM
Demus, I don't know what difficulty you play at, but I'll add my two cents for FoL Lsoj at Immortal difficulty.

1) Techs.
- Agriculture -> Ancient Chants -> Education (Cottages on every workable tile, including tiles that will later hold plantations) -> Mysticism -> Hunting -> Path of Leaves -> Calandar -> Festivals -> Drama -> Writing

After Writing, I will usually go down the Recon line until I hit Animal Handling (Early Satyrs), then I go for Trade (for Tech Trading, if that is allowed), and only then go I go for Priesthood.

Archery and Hidden Paths are floating techs that get researched based on perceived need. Archery tends to come early, but Hidden Paths can be delayed for a long time. Woodsman II is not worth the research cost and Guardians of Nature should only come into play when you have a few cities breaking the happy caps (with FoL, temples, and plantations, that shouldn't be happening until your cities are at least size 12 or so).

I tend to delay Priesthood unless my core cities are desperately lacking trees.

Units:
- Fawn vrs Hunter: Fawns are considerably more expensive, but are more solid against early barbarians with their free Woodsman I promotion. Spawn as many of these as you can and feed on Barbarians to get them all to level 4 or more. Once you get Animal Handling, you can upgrade them to Satyrs. Str 9 units with a few Combat promotions are enough to take cities. Later on, Satyrs will be reserved for domestic defence (they are usually strong enough to kill enemy heroes, especially once a Priest of Leaves has cast Poison on them). That said, Hunters should be spammed as well and later upgraded to Rangers and beyond. Fawns and Hunters should be the backbone of your military once you have enough production to wean yourself off of warriors.

- Archers: Great for city defence, poor for counter-attacking invading, obviously. Still, if you buod these early you can settler spam freely and not have to worry about losing your Archer-defended cities.

- Melee Units: You can forget about these until later in the game, when you may want City Raider Champions

- Priests: Good for popping forests, serving as medics, and support magic, but too weak and expensive for standard combat. Don't build too many of these.

- Adepts/Mages/Conjurers: Expensive tree that I rarely bother with. I build a few for basic spells and to quell any forest fires. I will try them out during my next Lsojofar game.


Tech trading: If at all possible, trade your religion off as early as possible, even if it is for an unfair trade. If no trade is possible and the other party has no religion yet, give it away. The more neighbours you have sharing your religion, the more secure your empire will be



Weaknesses of my style of play: Conquest gets harder the longer the game goes on. By avoiding the Magic tech line (and playing Lsojofar), I have no access to units that can lower a target city's cultural defence bonus. Coastal cities are still easy though, since Frigates can take the role of catapult.

Strengths: Strong domestic defence and quick expansion. Once I focus on culture, I can net myself cities via cultural flips. Knowing that, I build cities very close to allied cities before their cultural borders expand beyond the second ring. If that makes me a bad firned, so be it. :)