This is outrageous! :mad: They are tampering human nature :eek: by intervention. I'm so againts this. :)

Although it may also beneficial in some aspects, like military. Generals can clone they're soldiers and defend the frontlines efficiently.

On the bad side though, the generals may revolt.

How do you define "human nature"?

I'm not sure why the military would be interested in clones - do they seek out identical twins?

Other than cloning specific organs for already living people I don't see human cloning really taking off. Except for a small percentage of people most of us already have the ability to create new people.

This is outrageous! They are tampering human nature by intervention. I'm so againts this.

is using science tampering with human nature? or is it human nature to use science? :cool:

This is outrageous! :mad: They are tampering human nature :eek: by intervention. I'm so againts this. :)

Although it may also beneficial in some aspects, like military. Generals can clone they're soldiers and defend the frontlines efficiently.

On the bad side though, the generals may revolt.You've been watching too much Star Wars :p

Cloning has several benefits, such as being able to cure a sibling.

Military wouldn't have any uses for clones as they still need to mature for at least 18 years to be useful

Military wouldn't have any uses for clones as they still need to mature for at least 18 years to be useful

People just don't seem to get this. The main use of human cloning will be to probably clone tissue and organs.

It will be centuries before we can do the whole Star Wars clones in the tubes thing so the military use is non existent. Human cloning would near exclusively be for medical purposes and very rarely I could see wounded parents cloning a lost child in desperation. Honestly I have little to no moral objections to cloning, its just the intentional creation of an identical twin.

How do you define "human nature"?

I'm not sure why the military would be interested in clones - do they seek out identical twins?
It could only be beneficial if we had many Audie Murphy's, Eddie Rickenbacker's, Alvin C. York's, George Patton's, etc, etc.

Not to take anything away from the unmentioned servicemen. These are the only ones that came to mind.

The thing I oppose about human cloning is if it's used to replace normal human reproduction.

Hopefully animal cloning will become cheap.

The thing I oppose about human cloning is if it's used to replace normal human reproduction.

Other than the fact that in its current state it's utterly pointless to do such a thing, even if it was perfected, so what? It will just be one, incredibly expensive choice to create a child which happens to be a younger twin of yourself.

Maybe we can clone Hitler to start World War 3 ,eh?

Only if you inject him with enough stupid serum. :rolleyes:


I mean SERIOUSLY.. WTF is this thread? Cloning is a serious moral dilema and you have turned it into a circus.. :nono:

Maybe we can clone Hitler to start World War 3 ,eh?

Just because you clone someone evil does not mean the clone is...never mind. How much education in science have you had?

I'm guessing Zhuge is ~13 years old.

It could only be beneficial if we had many Audie Murphy's, Eddie Rickenbacker's, Alvin C. York's, George Patton's, etc, etc.

Clearly, you have forgotten that a clone is nothing more than a genetic equivalent of a sample. Bringing a genetic twin of any of these people into the world would assuredly result in no new military leaders. Every person is a product of not only nature and nurture (genetics and environment), but also time and place (family and culture).

Talk of 'bringing back Hitler or Patton' and such things is less than non-sense. It's a waste of electrons.

I support cloning. I would like to keep myself identical self around for the entire rest of human history to enjoy. ;)

I don't think most people understand cloning. Being a clone just refers to how the zygote is created, not where it spends the next 9 months. Growing-people-in-a-jar technology is unrelated; for now, most clones would have to gestate inside a person, and if we do perfect an artificial womb, we can put regular fertilized eggs inside. And reducing human maturation from 18 years is a whole different technology.

Also, I suspect that Hitler owed far more to his upbrining and contemporary political climate than to his genes.

If Hitler was cloned, the only thing the clone would share with Hitler is his genetics. The clone's personality would be completely different.

and if we do perfect an artificial womb, we can put regular fertilized eggs inside. And reducing human maturation from 18 years is a whole different technology.

That idea just creeps me out :ack:.

Its ignorance like this that keeps human cloning from advancing, its even more sad that people are willingly ignorant of it beuase they feel they have some kind of moral obligation to oppose it.

Well, I don't think that potential ethics questions should just be ignored in the name of progress. Then again, given what human cloning can actually do, I don't have any particular moral problems with it.

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