Good catch El. That's actually how I thought it was supposed to be but didn't notice that the extra "P" positions were actually going to be counted during the week, as opposed to just bench spots.

If i may query why was there the change in pitching positions i know have about two pitchers to many as a result of it.I too drafted on the premise that those two extra pitchers would be counted.

Four of my original five bench players were pitchers as well, so this change really hurts me...

sorry guys. an honest mistake :) better that i caught it now rather than when the season started...where we'd be unable to fix it.

So can you fix it.

I too drafted on the premise that those two extra pitchers would be counted.

Four of my original five bench players were pitchers as well, so this change really hurts me...

I drafted, and now have even made a trade in an attempt to perfect my lineup assuming the 2 extra P positions. I do not agree with changing the line-up post draft. If you still feel you MUST change it make those 2 P position into RP positions, but don't drop them completely. :(

Maybe we should vote on this? :scan:

How about we change it to 4 SP slots, 4 P slots, and 2 RP slots, that way you can slot in RP and SP in the P slots. (I.e. similar to the default yahoo setup.) Or a mixture of the above with the emphasis on P slots so people can put RP and SP in there, since people drafted based on the old setup.

That should alleviate the unfairness for people who drafted more RPs, because it gives lineup flexibility. I think the above makes it fair for everyone because everyone's drafted lineups would work under it, as opposed to the new one.

I, personally, assumed the last two were bench players and drafted as such.

i did fix it.

i'm hesitant to change it from anything other than 5 SPs and the 3 RPs. i mean, MLB rosters have 5 man rotations. this is what i had professed since the beginning and i posted it all here in there thread. and in the big picture of things, those last 2 P slots that were in there would have little, if any, adverse impacts on our rosters. i mean, for those that were under the impression that we started those 2 Ps can simply use one of them to fill that last SP spot.

i really don't want to get into an open discussion again about this...not to sound like an a-hole or anything :) i mean, i corrected an error.

Meh, whatever happens happens I'll adjust accordingly if needed.

That's cool. My roster is unaffected so it doesn't matter to me, just offerin a suggestion ;)

i did fix it.

i'm hesitant to change it from anything other than 5 SPs and the 3 RPs. i mean, MLB rosters have 5 man rotations. this is what i had professed since the beginning and i posted it all here in there thread. and in the big picture of things, those last 2 P slots that were in there would have little, if any, adverse impacts on our rosters. i mean, for those that were under the impression that we started those 2 Ps can simply use one of them to fill that last SP spot.

i really don't want to get into an open discussion again about this...not to sound like an a-hole or anything :) i mean, i corrected an error.

I'm happy with this.

I drafted thinking we had two additional pitcher slots to fill, but, frankly, filled them out with low level starters / middle innings men. I don't think anyone can really claim to have based anything from the first six or so rounds of the draft on this misunderstanding.

So I've now dropped a pitcher and pulled in an extra outfielder. No big deal. And frankly, it looks more balanced without those two "all purpose" pitching slots.

In short, I think you've done the right thing, ElJ.

I hate to keep harping about this but...

i just noticed that i made an error when i set up the starting positions for the league. specifically, i put 2 extra pitchers in there at the end of the lineup. they were appearing as P rather than SP or RP. what i had thought was in there was 5 SPs and 3 RPs and that's it. i fixed it to reflect this format now. sorry if i confused anyone :)

EJ may have meant to set-up our roster w/ 5 SP's and 3 RP's (and zero P's), but in reality his first (and last) post about our roster positions was...


Roster Positions: C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, OF, OF, OF, Util, SP, SP, SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, RP, P, P, BN, BN, BN, BN, BN, DL, DL
(in post #43)

and also,
I drafted thinking we had two additional pitcher slots to fill, but, frankly, filled them out with low level starters / middle innings men. I don't think anyone can really claim to have based anything from the first six or so rounds of the draft on this misunderstanding.
the way you drafted and the way others have drafted is what makes the game different for everyone. That said, the P positions is a great place to put middle relievers to get that greatly sought after Hld stat, when your RP position is filled with actual closers!

I guess what I am trying to say here is that with a P position, like a Util position, it opens endless posilbilties for differences on how people want to play their respective teams. Play 2 more starters? 2 more relievers? one of each? or like the with the Util spot...play a speed guy? a power guy? a pure hitter? All great ways to play!

I drafted thinking we had two additional pitcher slots to fill, but, frankly, filled them out with low level starters / middle innings men. I don't think anyone can really claim to have based anything from the first six or so rounds of the draft on this misunderstanding.What's the saying, you can't win your league in the first few rounds, but you can lose it? The league is won in the later rounds?

I filled my two P positions with a combination of a pretty good starter (Kenny Rogers, at least I think so), a very talented and somewhat experienced young starter (Andrew Miller) who went very high that I drafted before I had nine position players, one of the best relief pitchers from last year even with a down year (Aaron Heilman), a decent starter (Wandy Rodriguez), and the not-so-prized Bergmann and Feliciano. In fact, I drafted so pitcher-heavy that I only had one position bench player. Looking at most other lineups, I think my two P positions would have compared very favorably with others'.

That would be my grounds for protesting the change, but I'm happy with my team anyway and pitching depth is never a bad thing. I would lean toward reverting back to those two P spots, but I don't think that those spots will be the difference between 11th place and 3rd.

We shoult just keep it changed.

keep it changed

If you filled your P positions with starters, you didn't lose out because you can slot them into the SP positions throughout the week when it's their turn. This only affects you if you were planning on playing 5 relievers a week.

If you filled your P positions with starters, you didn't lose out because you can slot them into the SP positions throughout the week when it's their turn. This only affects you if you were planning on playing 5 relievers a week.No you can't? Aren't we doing weekly lineups?

No you can't? Aren't we doing weekly lineups?


YesYesYes.

No you can't? Aren't we doing weekly lineups?

You can see when they are starting in advance and slot them in before the week starts. AFAIK the weekly lineups just mean once you set it Sunday for the following week, you can't change it when the week starts Midnight Monday morning.

E.g., it's Sunday night and I'm doing my lineup. I click "Monday," and see two of my SPs are starting that day because they have ^ next to their names. I fill them in. I click Tuesday, and I see two other SPs on my bench are starting. I replace two of the SPs who went Monday with my two bench SPs. Advance to Saturday, and the two guys I started Monday are starting again. I slot them in from the bench. Etc. etc.

you cant be making changes like that after the draft

This only affects you if you were planning on playing 5 relievers a week.

Or 4 and were planning on 2 closers and 2 set up men. I like to be able to compete for saves and holds and this screws that up.

add a P spot back and see if anyone complains ;)

You can see when they are starting in advance and slot them in before the week starts. AFAIK the weekly lineups just mean once you set it Sunday for the following week, you can't change it when the week starts Midnight Monday morning.

E.g., it's Sunday night and I'm doing my lineup. I click "Monday," and see two of my SPs are starting that day because they have ^ next to their names. I fill them in. I click Tuesday, and I see two other SPs on my bench are starting. I replace two of the SPs who went Monday with my two bench SPs. Advance to Saturday, and the two guys I started Monday are starting again. I slot them in from the bench. Etc. etc.

Or if you project that one of your pitchers may have two starts in the week. Could hurt just as much as help, though! ;)

(Edit: Or that was just what you said, but only going day-by-day. Yeah, I need sleep.)

man spring training is moving at a crawl, I can't wait for this season to start! I'm gonna have to find a way to order the dominican league games during the winter to tide me over.

i agree King, it's moving really slow :) must beb/c we drafted so early.

as for the roster error, look, it was an honest mistake. and we're all in the same position. i mean, i drafted just as everyone else did and i had to make changes, too. it's not as if i did it as some sort of ploy to set someone back. this is a free fantasy league after all...and we should just have fun with it :)

i disagree about the concept of having Ps in there as the equivelent to the Util position. that is essentally a DH and there's no such thing for pitchers imo. the lone piece of flexibility we'll all have for our startinglineups for our pitching staffs is the 3rd reliever, either a middle innings/set up or a closer.

the intent to all of this was to simulate the 5 man staffs that all MLB teams use.

hopefully, this is the last time i have to qualify this :D

fine, the rosters are set, I'm gonna let it go, I just have one more thing to say..

i disagree about the concept of having Ps in there as the equivalent to the Util position. that is essentally a DH and there's no such thing for pitchers imo.

what then is a long reliever? a spot starter? while these positions actually exist, they don't carry a designation on the depth chart. Yahoo! usually just gives guys that hold these spots on their respective teams the SP,RP designation. You can't count on 'em to start or to even come in as relief but they do get innings.

Then you'd get their stats whenever they come in or make a spot start, wouldn't you?

In regards to fantasy baseball in general, (and NOT the roster changes ;)), a true "simulation" would be 1 SP slot with 5 or 6 RP slots, a whole bunch of pitchers on the bench, and 1 starting pitcher going every day. That's impossible in fantasy though, unless you draft a single teams rotation or somehow manage to draft a 1,2,3,4, and 5 and become the luckiest man in the universe when they all pitch in order throughout the season :lol:

I agree King, I can't wait for the season to start. I'm going to the home opener in OAK vs. BOS, I'll be one of those 20,000 Massh@les stinkin up the place for the 10 or so A's fans that will be there...

I'm glad I didn't load up on pitchers, some people apparently did so you are screwing them Commish - thats your mistake



play ball

There are a couple of guys that were left out of the league... if any of you

complaining about the settings want to drop out :mischief: . As the man

said 'Play Ball'.

You can see when they are starting in advance and slot them in before the week starts. AFAIK the weekly lineups just mean once you set it Sunday for the following week, you can't change it when the week starts Midnight Monday morning.

E.g., it's Sunday night and I'm doing my lineup. I click "Monday," and see two of my SPs are starting that day because they have ^ next to their names. I fill them in. I click Tuesday, and I see two other SPs on my bench are starting. I replace two of the SPs who went Monday with my two bench SPs. Advance to Saturday, and the two guys I started Monday are starting again. I slot them in from the bench. Etc. etc.As far as I know, that doesn't work. "Weekly lineups" means your entire lineup is set for the week, and unchangeable. At least that's how it worked last year.

As far as I know, that doesn't work. "Weekly lineups" means your entire lineup is set for the week, and unchangeable. At least that's how it worked last year.

Right, "set for the week" meaning you set it before the week starts, but you can plan ahead before the week starts by clicking on each day and setting your rosters for each day a week in advance. Once Monday at Midnight comes, you can only change your roster for the following week.

IOW your lineup can change from day to day, but those day to day changes are made before the week begins.

Then you'd get their stats whenever they come in or make a spot start, wouldn't you?

if they're not on the bench.. :)

I could use some pitching, so if anyone wants to trade one of the guys they think might be wasted, let me know.

Right, "set for the week" meaning you set it before the week starts, but you can plan ahead before the week starts by clicking on each day and setting your rosters for each day a week in advance. Once Monday at Midnight comes, you can only change your roster for the following week.

IOW your lineup can change from day to day, but those day to day changes are made before the week begins.


You better make sure of this. If I remember correctly your lineup is the same
all week, I don't think it will change daily even if you set it up to have a different lineup each day. If you can set before the week starts for changes
each day it will make a huge difference for everyone. Let's make

sure :scan: .

You better make sure of this. If I remember correctly your lineup is the same
all week, I don't think it will change daily even if you set it up to have a different lineup each day. If you can set before the week starts for changes
each day it will make a huge difference for everyone. Let's make

sure :scan: .

Can someone confirm or deny this? El?

It's once a week and that's your lineup. If we do any more than that I'll have to hand over my team to someone else.

You can't spare 10 minutes a week to change your roster?

I can every week but not every day.

same here whomp, that's the whole reason I said I would play.

no way we're going to daily lineup changes. that was established at the beginning. and to clarify, the weekly lineups are se in stone. that means that you can't individualize each dat of the week. you put in your 10 offensive guys, your 5 SPs, and the 3 RPs and that's it for the 7 days (mon-sun).

and for those that think i personally "screwed" you, i'm sorry. again, it was an honest mistake. please get over it. thank you :)

Not lookin for a change to daily, lookin for clarification on what "weekly" means. Now I have sufficient knowledge that will allow me to completely dominate and whoop all of you, thank you very much ;)

:old:

I forget, how were we handling the Japan series?

it's part of week 1 :) which stretches through the overseas series and onto the first real week.

don't forget to set your lineups this week gentlemen :) now, i'm not sure exactly if it'll lock in after today (regular weeks, it locks in on monday mornings). but since it's a weird week w/ that Japan series, i'm not sure...so to be safe, and especially if you have oak or bos players on your team, be sure to set it today.

I have proposed trades to A-town, and Hector's....guys take a look and let me know what you think. :)

I replied to your trade... I can tell it's time for the season to start my pitching staff has been sent down and injured already :) Here's to a year where I wish pitchers were as tough as they were in the old days!

I have proposed trades to A-town, and Hector's....guys take a look and let me know what you think. :)

In the future, I like to be told of a trade beforehand to see what I think. I'm not going to trade Guillén anyways, certainly not for Abreu. The only way I accept is if you throw a SS in there of decent quality.

how about I throw in Guzman? he would just be on my bench anyway...
Abreu and Guillen have the same (roughly) overall rank so I think it would be a fair trade...I'm just sayin'.

...At any rate, if anyone would like to send me offers for Abreu, please do so. I feel like I can trade him for a SP or position player (not OF) because my other 2 OF's are pretty decent and I like the prospect of Milledge as my everyday OF.

how about I throw in Guzman? he would just be on my bench anyway...
Abreu and Guillen have the same (roughly) overall rank so I think it would be a fair trade...I'm just sayin'.

...At any rate, if anyone would like to send me offers for Abreu, please do so. I feel like I can trade him for a SP or position player (not OF) because my other 2 OF's are pretty decent and I like the prospect of Milledge as my everyday OF.

I don't want that bum (Guzman). I'm going to have to say no, I'm not a big fan of Abreu.

ok..... I guess no one is interested in Abreu? :p
so how about Beltran, or Rios? I want Milledge on my starting roster and I just cant fit him when I still have these 3 as my OF's, I would be happy with an SP, or an infielder/catcher. ;)

I would be interested in Rios if you want to look my guys over ;) .

I would be interested in a deal for Beltran involving my SPs. I might trade Santana if you throw in an IF/C.

did you have an IF/C in mind?

Anyone wish to entertain offers for reliever Bob Howry or Juan Cruz. I want 2B or SS.

17 moves before Opening Day, dg ? Do you really follow Spring Training that closely ?

that's par for the course!

17 moves before Opening Day, dg ? Do you really follow Spring Training that closely ?

Of course I do LS ;) . Also drafting a C/1B and a 3B/OF that got demoted to

the minors did not help things... forced me to scramble a bit.

pffft... My entire bench is in the minors and you don't see me scrambling!

pffft... My entire bench is in the minors and you don't see me scrambling!

Better start :p .

pffft... My entire bench is in the minors and you don't see me scrambling!

Hence your name.

I'm getting killed by bhuerle i the era stat.

Hence your name.

I'm getting killed by bhuerle i the era stat.
:lol: this coming from a dude who tried pawning off a recent waiver wire pick up for someone's starting SS or 2B :p that is backwards logic! :lol:

Wanted to see if anyone was payinh attention. I'll go for a back up.

Is there anyway to put someone on the dl?

what?! :crazyeye: it seems that you are the one who ain't payin' attention :p you can set the DL via the lineup screen. or more aptly, go to next monday on the lineup and set the player you want to reserve.

I know but chavez wasn't officialy on the dl today kind of leaving me screwed.

dang I've been here releasing people I didn't realize you could dl them instead:)

I think you can only have two men on DL, however.

Victor Martinez lasted only two innings for me.... :( I hope it's nothing serious.

And, hey, dg, were all those careful roster moves designed to end up with a team ERA of 108 ? I guess things can only get better, eh ?

:lol: i was thinking of dg as Gordon melted down yesterday :p

I think you can only have two men on DL, however.

Victor Martinez lasted only two innings for me.... :( I hope it's nothing serious.

And, hey, dg, were all those careful roster moves designed to end up with a team ERA of 108 ? I guess things can only get better, eh ?

Yeah, sure were... :mischief: .

I can only put the pieces in place, and shrug if they don't perform :mad: .

:lol: i was thinking of dg as Gordon melted down yesterday :p


I was thinking of Hari-Kari myself :cry: . Gordon = bum

Unbelievable start for both me and the Phils :lol: .

Yeah, sure were... and how many championships have you won :mischief: .

I can only put the pieces in place, and shrug if they don't perform :mad: .
:lol: settle down Beavis! :lol: it's early, man. so don't go dropping all of your dudes right yet :p

Yeah, sure were... <<and various stuff later edited out>> :mischief: .

I can only put the pieces in place, and shrug if they don't perform :mad: .

Given my performance last season, my friend, I need to get my trash talking in early while I've got some material to work with. ;) I didn't even dare wait to the end of the week.

By the way, who's got Varitek, the Strikeout King ?

:lol: that'd be RedDoor :lol: my opponent for week 1 :D

did you have an IF/C in mind?Upon reconsideration I don't think a trade could work.

Xavier Nady, two home runs this season. :D I like making myself feel vindicated.

Given my performance last season, my friend, I need to get my trash talking in early while I've got some material to work with. ;) I didn't even dare wait to the end of the week.

By the way, who's got Varitek, the Strikeout King ?


Sorry about that, I apologize. I have a very bad cold and was in a ornery

mood this morning. Please forgive me, I usually enjoy the smack talk :blush: .

Given my performance last season, my friend, I need to get my trash talking in early while I've got some material to work with. ;) I didn't even dare wait to the end of the week.

By the way, who's got Varitek, the Strikeout King ?

Check my trashtalk.

i saw that Al :)

T,
all's you need now is for Olerud to come out of retirement and for Tyner to get called up :p

God damnit Martinez got knocked out after 3.1 innings. At least I was lucky enough to have the mets long reliever on my team

Tomoyo, what do you think of my trade?

Sorry, I like the guys you offered, but I don't want to trade the hometown ace for anyone other than a prominent Met I like. (or if the offer blows me off my feet)

OK.

Then El Justo's turn. Verlander for Hart. Straight up.

Too bad Pujols's home run was washed out yesterday.

But at least I'm already past the min. innings requirement.

sorry D'Artagnan59. can't trade a top 5 SP for a mediocre OF.

Don't ya love this time of the year? Tomorrow I'm going to the cubs game (because there's a girl I need to meet apparently) and Sox opener on Monday. Weewho! Baseball's here!!

Sorry about that
No problem :)

I see Franklin imploded for me last night just as Gordon did for you the day before.... :(

this direct tv baseball package opny increases my frustration. I can watch the giants give matt cain not even one run of support, at the same time watching feliz suck, and yunel escobar get his first of many errors this season all at the same time!

I need a good SP.

Ben Sheets will NOT keep my team afloat.

Don't ya love this time of the year? Tomorrow I'm going to the cubs game (because there's a girl I need to meet apparently) and Sox opener on Monday. Weewho! Baseball's here!!

Jealous....

But since I have this disturbing habit of checking the league every day, I like that I was up 10-7 today. That may change today, obviously. Especially since Valverde isn't performing tonight, from the looks on the scoreboards.

I am enjoying my opponent's 23.63 ERA for today, though. :D

(Okay, it's only on 2.2 innings, but still...)

I finally figured out how to land a guy on the DL, just too bad it won't take effect until Monday. :)

My relievers are killing me this week. Hopefully my starters pick them up, looks like Westbrook did a nice job today.

Hello, Reyes, yeah ummm can you steal some bases? That'd be great, thanks.

My entire staff with the exception of marmol is killing me.

three pitchers on the DL now and I'm still winning

The other thing killing me is I can't decide which relievers I want to keep. The holds stat is new and scary and I am frightened.

What is the holds stat? By the way does anyone have a team batting average lower then 194.

A hold is when a reliever comes into a game with a lead and leaves without ever having given up the lead.

I'm not sure how it works if the reliever leaves runners on when he exits the game, adn then the runners score.

a Hold is a reliever's stat. My understanding of how it works is much the same way a save stat works. Say, for instance, a team brings their "set-up" man into the game in the eighth inning up by 2, he pitches the inning without giving up the lead he gets a "hold" or "holds" the lead.

On a side note, its almost a lost category in our particular league...if you have 2 closers on your roster that is. Because we lost our "utility" pitcher positions and we have to set our line-ups weekly, you have to either start closers or set-up men for the week thereby losing one stat or the other. Unless your really fortunate to have a single closer that gets 3-4 saves/week then you can start 2 RP's that have the chance to get holds. This is why the "P" position is crucial! Start another SP maybe get a quality outting or W (or L), start another RP and get agood Whip or ERA or HOLDS or a W (or L), or even a rare Save for a set-up man! Lots of possibilties there for a "fantasy" roster.

Seems everyone is going 2 CL and one setup guy, so seems like the de facto lineup setup remains competitive for those two stats if you've got the right guys.

I guess you could go either/or if you really wanted to try and secure one stat or the other, but IMO H's are a little harder to predict so it's the safer bet to use two closers.

I agree there should be P slots though, sshhh don't tell El Justo I said that. :lol:

And BTW Ian Kennedy welcome to the big leagues. He left a nice 22.34 ERA turd on my fantasy doorstep this morning.

And BTW Ian Kennedy welcome to the big leagues. He left a nice 22.34 ERA turd on my fantasy doorstep this morning.

I can't even gloat about that since my Yankees got smashed tonight. :(

162 game season....162 game season....162 game season....

Let's take the lazy way out here, Wikipedia:

link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hold_(baseball))

For the process of keeping baseball runners from advancing bases, see baserunner hold.

A hold (abbreviated H) is awarded to a relief pitcher who:

1. enters the game in a save situation; that is, one of the following three conditions applies:
* his team has a lead of no more than three runs, and there are at least three outs remaining
* the potential tying run is either on base, at bat, or on deck
* there are at least three innings remaining in the game
2. records at least one out;
3. leaves the game without his team having relinquished the lead at any point.

Note that since the hold is not an official Major League Baseball statistic, the definition above can vary. One noticeable difference is that while STATS, Inc. requires the pitcher to record at least one out for a hold, SportsTicker does not have this requirement. This can result in discrepancies in hold totals between different sources.[1]

I'm sure Yahoo! scores it in the above fashion.

I agree there should be P slots though, sshhh don't tell El Justo I said that.

Don't worry your secret's safe with me. ;)

Thanks for the info on the holds.

And BTW Ian Kennedy welcome to the big leagues. He left a nice 22.34 ERA turd on my fantasy doorstep this morning.

Yea, I watched that painful game... At least he's a starter and will get the innings to bring that ERA down. Relievers, on the other hand...

Seasons stats for LaTroy Hawkins:

2 Games, 2 IP, 8 H, 7 R, 7 ER, 1 HR, 0 BB, 0 K, 31.50 ERA

And last game alone vs the Rays:

0.2 IP, 6 H, 6 R, 6 ER, 1 HR, 0 BB, 0 K, 81.50 ERA...

:goodjob:

Ahh good old latroy. I remember when he was on the cubs he was the worst. THis one time he tried to pick a guy off and the ball hit the runner in the head and flew out into the stands to give the other team the game.

Quiet Cubsfan! ;)

I agree Ian Kennedy should rebound, he got some bad calls that game. I'm still tearing my hair out trying to pin down who will be my set up guy though.

Tomorrow is the last day for Week 1, correct?

It'll be fun seeing how all the matches turn out!

Bill Hall is only listed as OF but he's playing 3B in real life, and Akinori Iwamura is listed as 3B only but he's playing 2B in real life.

Anyone know if Yahoo updates that during the season?

They need 5 games started or 10 games played to be listed at a new position.

yes, today is the last day of week 1.

having the 3 RP spots forces us into picking saves or holds (2 RPs, 1 CL or 1 RP, 2 CL) thus presenting a challenge in terms of your roster and lineup. real MLB mgr's don't have the "utility" sopt in their rotations or bp. they have the starting 5 guys, maybe a 6th guy in the wings, and a set-piece BP w/ a pecking order of sorts.

as we can see, closers are very hard to come by. i mean, i have only 1 and i'd like to have another. but life isn't perfect :) so i'll scan the waiver wire or maybe think trade at some point.

the whole point is for us to have to make tougher decisions each week and also to stoke the supply and demand of certain positions.

I went from being up 10-7 to being down 7-13 in one day. I'm hoping to bring it back to 10-10.

I am going to pretend this week didn't happen.

I am going to pretend this week didn't happen.

I think I pulled into a tie with you on HRs and runs. And somehow, with my no speed lineup, I also took SBs (1 to 0, but it still counts!). :D

Wonder when we will meet again.

I'm pretty happy about week 1. I don't think I managed to be above 500 all last season, so this is a slightly acrophobic experience for me...

What is the holds stat? By the way does anyone have a team batting average lower then 194.



Me probably... crapola!!!

Me probably... crapola!!!

Looking at last week's matchup, your team hit .180.


At any rate, very happy with my week, but I'll get probably get pulled down to earth some as we progress.

I think I pulled into a tie with you on HRs and runs. And somehow, with my no speed lineup, I also took SBs (1 to 0, but it still counts!). :D

Wonder when we will meet again.

Can't wait, hopefully next time my pitchers don't go 1-6 with a 7 ERA and my offense hit's better than .210. :lol:

Somehow despite my poor average I did OK in RBI and SLG, I can at least take that as a good sign for things to come.

My team hitting blows... hard. Please give my regrets to M.Holliday, since my

picking him 1st has jinxed his year to sucktitude... sorry buddy.

You wouldn't be interested in trading Holliday by any chance would you?

Fred--no cliff jumping yet, my friend!! Remember last year! It's all good. A week does not make the player. If Holliday sucks in a month then let's talk...

Even though the Tigers ARE 0-6 and we all know there's no team in history that's gone to the W.S. and only two who've made the playoffs after starting 0-6 maybe Holliday does suck. Maybe Fred will trade him.

...but if you must I'll give you someone who rips!

:lol: :lol: here we go! :lol: :lol:

i think my starters logged 5 or 6 losses last week :rolleyes: but i ain't throwin' in any towels.

So much for the fast start, given today's results. :cringe:

But it's one day out of many, many days. :)

What a way to check stats after just getting home. Off to work on some things, maybe something could develop in one more at bat, if any are still left.

Ahh good old latroy. I remember when he was on the cubs he was the worst. THis one time he tried to pick a guy off and the ball hit the runner in the head and flew out into the stands to give the other team the game.

Dude I remember that game. I always felt bad for him because i remember him saying he had always wanted to be a cub.

How in the heck did I lose? I was up like 11-3 until the last day. Even though I think 4 runs scored on errors in the cubs game yesterday, lilly still gets them on his ERA. What a bunch of crap, they KNOW i have him on my fantasy team...

My team hitting blows... hard.


If you want a good bat, I'll trade you Abreu for Hamels.

You wouldn't be interested in trading Holliday by any chance would you?


Which team is yours? :mischief:

Hey it is all luck, I'm not against trading anyone.

If you want a good bat, I'll trade you Abreu for Hamels.


Uhhhhhhh, no. Hamel is my (& El J's ;) ) man. Need to keep my pitching.

Which team is yours? :mischief:

Hey it is all luck, I'm not against trading anyone.

Bronx Bombers. See if you like anything and let me know.

Damnit! I wanted Benoit.

was that you dg who dropped polanco? :shifty:

yeah I noticed that polanco drop, that seemed like an interesting move.

Camel why are you so willing to give up abreau to everyone? The man has had 5 or 6 seasons of 100 rbi's or more. If I had someone you wanted that I was willing to give up, we could make a deal.

I know Abreu is a really good player, and has great stats for FB, but I need a SP or a 1B. I feel that I can sacrifice Abreu, or Rios, or Beltran to get a good SP/1B.
If anyone wants to offer something for these players, I'm ready to deal.

Grief. I swapped in McClellan for Franklin, and the former implodes while the latter finally looks the biz. After Doug Davis' first game, and his impending operation, I think he's not going to focus and should sit on the bench, while I let Chad Billingsley have another chance.

Quality managing, or what ? :(

PS Oh, And I reckoned Matt Kemp needed some bench time as well....

hang in there old boy :) lots of ups and downs as you know :D

was that you dg who dropped polanco? :shifty:

Yep, I see you got him. I figured the only stats he will really end up
helping in (eventually :mischief:) is batting average and hits/and maybe
runs, which I have covered right now with Jose Lopez and Tadahito Iguchi
at 2B.

hey, thanks Chicken Little! :lol: he's good for field %, runs, hits, and the lack of Ks imo :) of course, i already have utley at second. but i couldn't pass him up :mischief:

hey, thanks Chicken Little! :lol: he's good for field %, runs, hits, and the lack of Ks imo :) of course, i already have utley at second. but i couldn't pass him up :mischief:

Hey no problem ;) . We can compare 2B stats at the end of the year between him and the ones I kept. What else you need :D :scan: .

:lol: you're crackin' me up, dude :lol:

I'm psst that I missed him ass Cano is sucking ass right now.

We're what, nine games into the season? :lol:

I'm psst that I missed him ass Cano is sucking ass right now.


Not as bad as Polanco- he is hitting less than .100 and just made his first error in like 2+ years last night. He has 3 hits so far this year.

It seems my team forgot how to hit this week. Win some, lose some.

I made the mistake of telling the team I was playing last week they would lead the league in K's, and I think my team is now. A-rod with the golden sombrero, say it ain't so!

Any site you can recommend which shows a simple summary of which pitchers are expected to have two starts in the upcoming Mon to Sun ?

it's the second week fellas. some of you guys are makin' it seem like it's do or die :lol:

i'll bet a mortgage payment that polanco ends up hitting, like, .285 at least w/ 175+ hits and a microscopic number of Ks :p

Lambert,
you can view your team and the pitchers who are scheduled to go and the ones who are "tentatives" have a ^ symbol next to their name. now, if you go to, say, mon or tue of any week (likely next week), you can see SPs w/ this symbol next to their name and it's likely that they'll get 2 starts that week. i mean, they'll go in the beginning of the week (ie mon or tue) and then at the very end (sat or sun). there's also the browse FAs by "probable".

it's the second week fellas. some of you guys are makin' it seem like it's do or die :lol:

i'll bet a mortgage payment that polanco ends up hitting, like, .285 at least w/ 175+ hits and a microscopic number of Ks :p




Not everyone plays fantasy the same way. Sometimes it is do or die this
early in the season. Occaisionally, good players have rotten years following
career years. Myself I get the most joy in playing fantasy stuff by finding
gems in the rough (and winning of course). Last year I found Tulowicki and
Braun, just in this league... but by the time I did my team was too far behind
to catch up (mostly because relying on years past stats/good playing and bad luck). Maybe cut us move-maker freaks some slack and sit back and have a good laugh at the stupid/impatient/against-the-odds fools. You can always ridicule us at the end of the season.

:blush: sorry bro. just bustin' chops.

:blush: sorry bro. just bustin' chops.

No problem pal. I see Polanco racked up 2 Rbi's last night... it may be

him/they just like playing better on your team :D .

well maybe i can catch lightning in a bottle again like last year when i snagged alfonso soriano off the waiver heap :lol:

--i won't compare the 2 though :) they're very different and i understand why you'd drop him...the soriano drop otoh was a questionable move imo.

We're what, nine games into the season? :lol:

Care to make me an offer for cano?

well maybe i can catch lightning in a bottle again like last year when i snagged alfonso soriano off the waiver heap :lol:

--i won't compare the 2 though :) they're very different and i understand why you'd drop him...the soriano drop otoh was a questionable move imo.


True, I wasn't the one who dropped Soriano and you were one spot in front

of me on the waiver wire :mad: at the time. In another league I'm in with

some wargame buddies someone dropped A.Ramirez (cubs 3B) and I missed

him by that one waiver spot again... might be a sign of things to come in

that league for me.

Who dropped Ramirez?!?! What are they thinking?

:lol: oh i know it wasn't you last year dg :lol: i forget the fella's name...but he had the nascar avatar :confused: in his defense, soriano did poop the bed the first 6 weeks or so last season. but still :D

@Backwards Logic
i think dg is referring to another league :)

I know he's referring to another league... It's still rather odd (okay, idiotic) to drop Ramirez, especially this early.

J--you scooped Polanco on me like you scooped Soriano last year. Grr...

PS saw your SG. Wish I had time but I'll be lurkin' since life is a little crazy with all the ladies chasin' lil' me. :D

Care to make me an offer for cano?

What kind of a player are you looking for in return? I've got several second basemen if you're looking for a replacement. Kaz is on the DL at the moment, but I believe he will be returning shortly. He's already in his rehab assignment. Sanchez should also bounce back if you're thinking of him.

Sabathia is trying my patience! :mad:

I don't remember if he's usually cold in April or not.

Sent you an offer.

Sent you an offer yankee.

That looks fair, accepted. :)

Just checked my team for the first time, and pleasantly surprised to see that I am absolutely crushing D'Artagnan59's BoSox 14-4 with only 2 days left in the week. :D

I made a trade offer to Berzerker.... man texiera is killing me, but I know as soon as i take him out he will catch fire:)

Have fun with Wakefield Yankee, I hope you don't have any pre-existing heart conditions. (Say bye bye to your WHIP)

I don't think he plans on starting him. And hector I started him and mine is only 1.42.

I considered the above, but Wakefield would also be more likely to get me wins if I choose to play him. It's a tradeoff and I'd have to gamble with the guy, but over a longer run, I have an idea of what I could expect from him. Even if it does require a roll of Rolaids on some starts.

I should have kept wakefield after the way my rotation has been holding up so far.

Wakefield sure has been passed around a bunch these first two weeks. :lol:

If it weren't for Lincecum today, my pitching corps turned in a pretty bad overall performance this week (Sabathia, I'm looking at you). But it still seems better than the Gnome Munchers'.

I do love how the season may look more like a roller coaster ride taking these week-long snapshots.

Well, I guess I didn't expect to get JD Drew off waivers... :(

He's turned in some impressive numbers so far this season, so, although I don't like Drew, I gotta ask - Red Door, did you mean to drop Drew ?

Yeah I wanted him too, I keep getting snaked on the waivers. He might lead the league in walks and should be good for at least .280/15-20/70 with very few Ks; not too shabby.

I didn't even attempt to get him on waivers - I figured everyone would want him, and besides, I don't want anymore bum Red Sox players on my team than I already have!

Mmm... J. D. Drew.

Interestingly, the guy I dropped to get him was also the cause of much sickness yesterday. :(

At least it can be considered an improvement of sorts...

Mmm... J. D. Drew.

Interestingly, the guy I dropped to get him was also the cause of much sickness yesterday. :(

What, did you get some bad Pie Tomoyo? :D

Perhaps. I was bed-ridden all yesterday, but am mysteriously fine today. :confused:

I wasn't going to waste my waiver position on Drew, he'll be injured before too much longer anyway :)

must've been the "testicular tortion" that Pie had :lol: that just sounds painful.

note that the waiver order applies only to players that are in the "waiver" heap. at this point, it applies only to guys that get dropped. so this means that any other FA add does not need to go through waivers.

Hmm. My opponent had 4 of his 5 SPs making a start last night, thus presumably making it 4 out 5 will have two starts in a week. Goodbye to IP and Ks at least, and probably Wins and QS as well :(

Worse, whilst I'm trailing 24.2 to 2.2 in terms of innings pitched, I've managed to get ahead by achieving 1 loss in those 2.2 innings (compared to my opponent's 0 losses from 24 innings). :lol:

Which team is yours by the way Lambert :scan: ?

'dems da breaks, Lambert :( i've also has my SP sheet the bed, too. hang in there :D

My pitchers put up an atrocious ERA last week and still won that stat. :smug:

But Neshek's been disappointing thus far.

well, i'm laboring w/ my SPs. verlander looks like Rick Vaughn and beckett isn't up to snuff quite yet. and damn you barry zito! you're a waste of flesh!

on a sidenote, i'm happy to pick up dg's trash again :) (1B Daric Barton)

well, i'm laboring w/ my SPs. verlander looks like Rick Vaughn and beckett isn't up to snuff quite yet. and damn you barry zito! you're a waste of flesh!

on a sidenote, i'm happy to pick up dg's trash again :) (1B Daric Barton)

Have him, has he hit a homer yet? :mischief:


My SPs are strong, since I took them from El J's team of last year :D . See,

I learned something from watching the master at work ;) .

Hmm. My opponent had 4 of his 5 SPs making a start last night, thus presumably making it 4 out 5 will have two starts in a week. Goodbye to IP and Ks at least, and probably Wins and QS as well :(

Worse, whilst I'm trailing 24.2 to 2.2 in terms of innings pitched, I've managed to get ahead by achieving 1 loss in those 2.2 innings (compared to my opponent's 0 losses from 24 innings). :lol:

Well we know the score can at least be 16-2 you...

Considering how awful my team has been the last two weeks I wouldn't be very worried, unless my collective sucktitude happens to break this week.

Have him, has he hit a homer yet? :mischief:


My SPs are strong, since I took them from El J's team of last year :D . See,

I learned something from watching the master at work ;) .
heh, i follow your lead, bro :D

i actually had a claim in on barton back in spring training and as usual, you snaked me on the waiver wire :lol: so i figured my one dude got benched (KC of gaithright) and why not take on dg's castoffs. can't hurt, right :p

Well, I guess I didn't expect to get JD Drew off waivers... :(

He's turned in some impressive numbers so far this season, so, although I don't like Drew, I gotta ask - Red Door, did you mean to drop Drew ?

Yep. He wasn't going to crack my lineup and I figured I'd take a chance on a no-name who could produce similar numbers, if not better.

Anyone have interest in Jason Bay.

Well we know the score can at least be 16-2 you...

Considering how awful my team has been the last two weeks I wouldn't be very worried, unless my collective sucktitude happens to break this week.

Heh. I'm sure it won't be 16-2 - your pitchers had 4 very decent starts on Monday. Still, my batters had a bit of a breakout last night, with 4 of them hitting HRs, and you had Kent and Reyes (at least) performing well. Makes it look like quite a decent match-up :goodjob:

Hey. Now that Jose Guillen has benefitted from an amnesty and no longer has to serve his 15 day drug ban, anyone interested in acquiring him ?

I mean, there can be few teams out there who wouldn't benefit from a .158 hitter.

All offers considered.

geez my only save guy is injured, pitchers are worthless! What happened to the good ol days people could throw 300 innings and relievers would break 100? Geez even in the 80's the only reason pascaul perez would miss a start was because he couldn't find a way to get off the highway. This new generation has no respect for the game!

heh, i follow your lead, bro :D

i actually had a claim in on barton back in spring training and as usual, you snaked me on the waiver wire :lol: so i figured my one dude got benched (KC of gaithright) and why not take on dg's castoffs. can't hurt, right :p

Right pal :D . I really like the guy, I was just worried that he is a little hurt-
hand/wrist problem. He usually rakes, but not hitting... so the dump. Same
for Polanco, I think his back is aching but they will probably 'catch fire' for
you. Good luck anyway--- my team is your team as you know ;) .

*How about the comeback vs Houston, amazing :goodjob: .

that was a nice one G :D but i'll admit that i turned it off in the 8th while down 3-nil to watch the flyers-caps game :D so it was a nice surprise.

King of Town said "Pascual Perez" :lol: he and his eefus pitches :lol: anyone remember those? they were hillarious.

Anyone have interest in Jason Bay.


Yes. What are you looking for in return? :scan:

Anyone have interest in Jason Bay.

not to be outdone by dg, I am also interested. What are you looking to get for him?

I don't know if people know about this or not, but under the "League" tab is a link called "trading block." Here, you can list players you'd like to shop around or if you're looking for a particular stat and would like to trade for it. It would be a good tool to help everyone and might encourage more deal making.

I don't want to make a move till next week so what's your guys teams and I'll like.

I feel like beaning C.C. Sabathia.

At any rate, that trading block section can be mightily useful. Not quite ready to offer anything, but I will when the time comes. Negotiation can still happen here or elsewhere.

Or whatever, everything's kosher.

that was a nice one G :D but i'll admit that i turned it off in the 8th while down 3-nil to watch the flyers-caps game :D so it was a nice surprise.

King of Town said "Pascual Perez" :lol: he and his eefus pitches :lol: anyone remember those? they were hillarious.

I loved the man's hair, personally.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/pascual_perez_autograph.jpg

Cabrera has awakened!

9AB's/3 runs/5 hits/7 RBI/1BB/1 K in the last 2 games! :goodjob:

Yankee that looks like you signed that card yourself:)

I loved the man's hair, personally.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pics/pascual_perez_autograph.jpg
:clap::clap::clap:

i probably have that exact card sitting in one of my many boxes of cards somewhere :lol:

Yankee that looks like you signed that card yourself:)

I probably did, though I tend to leave out letters in favor of a long, wavy line.

:clap::clap::clap:

i probably have that exact card sitting in one of my many boxes of cards somewhere :lol:

1988 Donruss? I probably have it either here or in North Carolina.

It looks like another +/- 1 game for me coming up.

A pitcher! A pitcher! My kingdom for a pitcher!

yes The Yankee :) it was a lousy set really...poor card stock and not too many stars from that set :D although i bought mad packs of them as a kid :D (among others).

I bought all my cards in complete sets. (Contained every non rookie card for a year.)

I have a bunch of factory sets from the late '80s and early '90s. I bought many packs in the mid to late '90s as a youngster when there was a card/memorabilia/comic shop in the neighborhood. Pulled out a special card in an Upper Deck series that my friend had to go home and price...turned out to be worth $80 at the time (I'd have to go find it, it's probably in North Carolina). Not the huge hit, but still pretty darn something for a 12 year old. :lol:

Of course, one of my favorites has to be a picture of Ted Williams and Babe Ruth with Williams' signature. Hmm...maybe this would be a good thread. ;)

More on topic, it looks like Cubs here caught me on a terrible week. I should be getting in my starters at the end of this week, but if Cubs even puts in a pedestrian performance, I won't catch up in some key stats (especially ERA....apparently my pitchers thought batting practice was more fun).

I know, I know, the ups and downs of a 162-game (or 23 week in our case) season....

Dunno if you guys have seen this....
Pitching nightmare (http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUST28700020080418)

I'm sure that kid has been learning from some of my pitching staff...

that's awful Lambert :mad: that kid should've never been allowed to throw that many pitches. that can absolutely destroy a kid's arm. that coach should be hung up to dry!

i've got tons of cards, mostly from the 80s and some from the 70s and 90s w/ a smattering from the early '00s. a few complete sets but mostly singles; lots of rookies, too, just about all of the big-whigs from the 80s and 90s :)

my 3B Kouzmanoff had 9 ABs last night :eek:

Pulled out a special card in an Upper Deck series that my friend had to go home and price...turned out to be worth $80 at the time.

Wasn't that the Ken Griffey Jr Upper Deck rookie card?

Hey El J, awhile back a old middle school buddy of mine (now a local superior

court judge :eek: ) gave me Steve Carlton's and Tommy John's card, both

autographed :cool: :cool: . We used to argue about who was better :D .

The guy goes to New York and plays in those Yankee Fantasy Camp games

where regular guys get to play and wear Yankee uniforms.

nice dg :goodjob: carlton w/out a doubt imo although john was a craft type, especially after his famous transplant.

i've got hordes and hordes of old phils cards, too :) i even have them arranged in binders w/ the sheets and all. it's been a while though since i organized them...probably 10+ years or so.

i think Yankee's $80 card was likely a special insert w/ Williams' autograph on it. i'd bet that it'd fetch more than $80 now; i mean, w/ him being deceased and all.

I've got the full '91 Topps set.

I got the full 87,88,89,90,91,01,03,04, and 05 sets. If you look on the ebay you can get lots of sets really cheap. I got 87-91 for 50$.

I really didn't know people still collected baseball cards, at least for a purpose other than finding the insert cards with real bats in them or whetever. I had friends that use to look for those cards and then just throw the pack away. I collected pretty heavy in the 80's. I realy liked that 88 donruss, because I'm pretty sure that was the year when there was a warren spahn puzzle piece in every pack.
The best part I liked about collecting cards were the people you seemed to get in every pack. I seemed to get a cecil espy in every tops pack, a mariano duncan in every fleer pack, and an albert hall in every donruss pack. Man I hated Albert Hall.

I've got complete sets from 87 to about 90, lot of good rookies in there. I have that old Griffey rookie card (upper deck?) that did not actually wind up appreciating in price as crazily as people thought it would back then. Also my heavy investments in Canseco and McGwire rookies back then doesn't look so amazing now as it did when I was 10 years old. :lol: I also messed up the order of a lot of my sets back then when I would move cards around according to team, and take out all the A's and Red Sox players, so most of my sets are out of order and incomplete and thus almost worthless. Guess I can't retire on them :( :lol:

I also still have some unopened fleer packs with the gum still in them from '89.

.

Wasn't that the Ken Griffey Jr Upper Deck rookie card?Hey, I ain't that old yet!


i think Yankee's $80 card was likely a special insert w/ Williams' autograph on it. i'd bet that it'd fetch more than $80 now; i mean, w/ him being deceased and all.

I think it was a Frank Thomas card, but I forget the year. Had to have been 1997 or 1998. I'm sure it's gone down as his career declined but since he's a 500-homer guy, it might still have a halfway decent value.

But at any rate, thanks El J for bumping the card thread (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=169677).

As for my New Yawkers, they became the Mets this week (My Entire Team Sucks). ;)

I've got some guys on the trading block if anyone is interested in my trash!

I got four qs's this week and only one 1 win.

I've got Alfonso Soriano on my real team and he's a freakin' hot dog who hopped himself onto the DL. Dork mania...catch it.

Ooh pretty. Right before I picked up Adam Kennedy, I had

2 C
2 1B
2 2B
2 SS
2 3B
5 OF

8 SP (1 DL)
2 CP
and their respective set-up RPs!!

So set for a no-move-moves-in-the-season league.

Sorry, just thought it was pretty.

Good looking team you have there, Tomoyo. At first glance I thought it might be a tough decision leaving Bill Hall on the bench (sure, he's not hitting often, but when he does manage to hit, they tend to go out of the park - kind of like a Giambi with talent...), but it's hard to argue with Drew, Nady and Ordonez at the moment.

And you got some good pitching there too...:cry:

My one good week I run into a team hitting 350 with 76 hits, awesome. WTF?

Uh-oh, I run into four double-start starters this week...

well, no disrespect, but you know it's bad when you lose to an auto-drafted team that has guys missing from lineup spots and dudes on the DL in the starting lineup...

My one good week I run into a team hitting 350 with 76 hits, awesome. WTF?

Yeah, my guys had a brilliant week.

.352 and 76 hits on the offense;
2.48 ERA, 0.98 WHIP, 4.43 K/BB.

Best in the league in all of those 5 categories for this week.

Can I have an extra point please ?

(oh and, sorry, illram.)

Edit: Wow, illram. For the week, I also lead all-comers in RBIs, while no-one bettered you for HRs, slugging Pct, IP and Pitchers' Ks. Together we could have ruled the world, my friend! :goodjob:

Yeah, my guys had a brilliant week.

.352 and 76 hits on the offense;
2.48 ERA, 0.98 WHIP, 4.43 K/BB.

Best in the league in all of those 5 categories for this week.

Can I have an extra point please ?

(oh and, sorry, illram.)

Edit: Wow, illram. For the week, I also lead all-comers in RBIs, while no-one bettered you for HRs, slugging Pct, IP and Pitchers' Ks. Together we could have ruled the world, my friend! :goodjob:

That's what's so frustrating, I had great stats for the week (for the first time in this young season), but them's the breaks I guess. I'm hoping that getting Granderson back boosts my SBs and avg a little, and my slumping players (Thome, Damon, C. Pena, Zimmerman all hovering around or below .200) can kick it into gear. The only guy I can't ask anything more of is Manny, but he is streaky and I'm not looking forward to his inevitable cold streak.

My pitching also needs to get some more wins. 68 IP (10 total starts) and 2 wins for the week? Wow. And here you were worried about pitching! ;)

And oh yeah, Ian Kennedy you suck.

Man my guys choke in the last game for the second week already this season. I gotta start winning some, this season goes by faster every year...

A-town Road Runners, what would you take for one of your 1st basemen?

Troll, Would you take Quentin for Crosby? Both of these players are on our respective benches, but we could both benefit by this trade (and then by putting these fellas in our line-ups ofcourse)

A-town Road Runners, what would you take for one of your 1st basemen?

How about Helton for a SP and Milledge.
Or Guillen for Rios and a SP.

How about Helton for a SP and Milledge.
Or Guillen for Rios and a SP.

you wouldn't trade Gordon then?

My guys have stopped hitting anything other than an occasional rinky-dink single :-(

Just as well that Whomp's pitchers imploded en masse last night, eh ?

(Whompy, are you really going to have 4 of 5 SPs double starting this week ? Being up against that for two weeks in a row is a bit painful.)

At first I was miffed Wood blew his save. But then Wood got the win and then marmol got the save, so I go both. :)

to think I almost got marmol from you. Would have been a masterpiece of a deal for me.

You did but then you dropped therio (wasn't the entire deal.) and there wasn't anything left that would of been remotly fair.

who is the gm for the Troll Gnome Munchers?

EJ, now that you're asking...I noticed that Troll hasn't visited the Baseball site since April 1.

If Troll, isn't going to play, anyone interested in trading a 1B? I will entertain all offers.

hmm...very well then :)

you know Camel, i saw the other day that your boy Cabrerra is getting moved to 1B. and iirc, it takes 5 games, i think, to become eligible. so there's your 1B :D

Carlos Delgado? I need to check this thing more often... seeing how I'm 6 hours late I doubt I'll win the waiver claim (again!)

the gnome munchers are Striders team. I haven't heard from him since the first week or so of the season.

Carlos Delgado? I need to check this thing more often... seeing how I'm 6 hours late I doubt I'll win the waiver claim (again!)


It is not who tries to pick up the guy first. All teams are in 'waiver positions'
since the draft. 1st pick in draft was 16th in waiver order. So if your current
'waiver position' is above another team's and you both are trying for the same
player the team that has the lower 'waiver position number' will pick up the
player... then that team will drop to #16 in the 'waiver position', your team
will move one position lower in the 'waiver position' so you will have a better
chance next time when you try to grab someone off waivers. Does that explain it a little better?

*Look at the League page over in the right side column it shows each team's
'waiver position'. So it doesn't matter about who tries first to get the player,
what matters is which team has the higher position (lower number).

Delgado's having an awful season, though. Guess if I was missing a first baseman I might gamble on him coming good, but I'm not convinced he's worth using up a high waiver position, at least not on current form.

C'mon Tomoyo, you're the man with the local knowledge here - what's the deal with Delgado ? Loss of form or loss of class ?

well, he's been killing me when i had him in the lineup. anyways, he's a non-flag saluting waste of flesh imo :) so to the waiver heap he goes! [i'm loaded w/ 1Bs anyway]

Ah, I had forgotten all of that not standing business. The Mets said he had to stand if he signed with them, right ?

not sure on the 'have to' thing but when he was in fla and/or toronto, he'd go down the tunnel during the anthem and then again during the stretch when they play God Bless America. this was right after 9/11, too.

now, i'm ok w/ guys protesting and all...but when you come to this country and earn big bucks, it'd probably behoove you to STF up and just play ball :D

it pained me to draft that douche in the first place :cool:

I was a little :eek: at the time when you picked him :D . I forgive you though ;) .

:lol: i was feeling a little green when i picked him :ack: but it was slim pickins' at the time.

anyhow, i ended up w/ that kid from fla, Jacobs, who has been knocking the snot out of the ball. and i have 2 others who can play 1B...pues adios puto :D

Dunno if it was right after 9/11 - I thought he was protesting against the Iraq war. Still, this is not the place for this kind of debate, I guess. (And I suppose, as a leftist non-American, I'm not going to necessarily understand why you guys might be outraged in the first place. Trust me, even a week after the London bombings, if you had tried playing "God Save the Queen" at a Scottish national football game then it would have got the usual series of boos, whistles and catcalls...).

Maybe I should pick him on waivers as he clearly needs an "understanding" manager to get the best out of him...:mischief:

it's a matter of disrespect imo; i mean, protest all you want but don't pull those types of shenanigans. there's a time and place for everything...that's all.

plus, he plays for the mets now. so that makes it even worse :)

It is not who tries to pick up the guy first. All teams are in 'waiver positions'
since the draft. 1st pick in draft was 16th in waiver order. So if your current
'waiver position' is above another team's and you both are trying for the same
player the team that has the lower 'waiver position number' will pick up the
player... then that team will drop to #16 in the 'waiver position', your team
will move one position lower in the 'waiver position' so you will have a better
chance next time when you try to grab someone off waivers. Does that explain it a little better?

*Look at the League page over in the right side column it shows each team's
'waiver position'. So it doesn't matter about who tries first to get the player,
what matters is which team has the higher position (lower number).


Makes sense, thanks. I thought it was based off standings at first, then I kept losing it so I thought it was first come first serve.

I figure if Pena keeps sucking, between the two of these guys there's got to be something there, although Delgado does seem to have permanently lost any sort of 40/120 kind of skills. And I could care less if a guy stands or not during the anthem or whatever, big deal. *yawn*.

if he played for the cardinals you would :rolleyes:

? Not a Card's fan.

If he pulled that while on the Red Sox, I could see him getting run out of town, definitely. I can't see any team fan base anywhere in the US taking too kindly to that, maybe San Francisco, but even here there would be plenty of people calling him all sorts of names. I mean I get why it's disrespectful (isn't that his point?) and highly offensive to some but I just don't care personally, and never would regardless of whose team he played for.

Still wouldn't have been as bad as when B.H. Kim flipped off the fans at Fenway when they booed him (what a dumbass).

Definitely feel like I could use another two roster spots. :lol:

Couple of interesting possibilities, but there's the tradeoff between who I'd pick up versus who I'd have to let go that makes it all hard. It's always like that no matter what, but it feels tougher this week than I've usually had it in fantasy leagues.

Anyway, the New Yawkers Joisey player of the day is Miguel Batista for that horrible outing tonight.

sorry illram :blush: i mistook you for a cubs fan.

sorry illram :blush: i mistook you for a cubs fan.


How dare you! :lol:


On an unrelated note I can safely laugh at Ian Kennedy now that he occupies a firm spot on my bench.

I currently have four players capable of playing first base. Lance Berkman, Casey Kotchman, Matt Stairs, and Kevin Millar, though I would rather trade one of the latter three. If you are interested in any of them, I am mostly looking for SP.