I decided to play one last game before I took off to go to bed. I figured a quick Marathon game with a Cultural Victory as my ideal way would be fun to do, so I attempted to do so on a Custom Continents, each team having their own. In the end, I won, but during the game, I came across a few issues that I'd very much appreciate some help on.

Firstly, I placed as Greece, and by end game I knew that the original rivals were Mehmed II and Asoka. By the time I bothered to go out and meet the rest of the world, it was rather late game and there were 4 Civs in the 3 Civ game I had set up. At end game, I saw that Mehmed had created Sitting Bull as a Vassal because he had taken over a Barbarian city on Asoka's continent. This is where things got odd. See, I never knew who the original Civs created were, and who the Vassal was, but when I checked the score, I noticed that the graphs only showed Sitting Bull, Asoka and myself, leaving Mehmed out. I went around, checking and I noticed that Sitting Bull was a Vassal... so why was he appearing in my Powergraphs, and not his Master Mehmed? Below are two images showing my situation.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170024&stc=1&d=1204016931

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170025&stc=1&d=1204017041


I'm just wondering what happened.


With that, I'd like to add that Athens was very, very hard to place according to the map script.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170028&stc=1&d=1204017552


With that, I'd like to also show off my great finds if I may :lol:

Look at the image below. You see where there are Gems, Gold and Silver all basically right on top of each other? They weren't there when I originally found the city, but popped into mines I had created... for my Production powerhouse city. It had Plains/Pigs, 5 water tiles, and 1 normal Plains tile total, the rest of the cross was hills. Best production site I had, and built the city atop a flood plains to get the most of it... then all of that popped. Would have been GREAT anywhere else, but not in my production powerhouse :lol: The Iron would have been a great pop... had I not popped two of the same in the mines by my Great Person Farm.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170028&stc=1&d=1204017552


Any input on my question is greatly appreciated, and any comments on my luck getting Gems, Silver AND Gold to all pop around one city are more more than welcomed :p

Did you assign a weight to Mehmed in the espionage screen? You can only see their demographics charts after you get a certain amount of espionage points. If you did assign a weight to him, perhaps he managed to outspy you and increase the required points far over what you had.

Did you assign a weight to Mehmed in the espionage screen? You can only see their demographics charts after you get a certain amount of espionage points. If you did assign a weight to him, perhaps he managed to outspy you and increase the required points far over what you had.


I wasn't going for a demographics look, I was going for score, power, culture and the graphs. Even though I could see his score in the list, I couldn't see anything affiliated with him in the graphs.

I decided to play one last game before I took off to go to bed. I figured a quick Marathon game with a Cultural Victory as my ideal way would be fun to do

A quick Marathon game O.o

Ontopic: No idea mate, it should show, weather he is Master/Vazal or free state. However, I do find it interresting that the AI actually creates its own colonies :D

I wasn't going for a demographics look, I was going for score, power, culture and the graphs. Even though I could see his score in the list, I couldn't see anything affiliated with him in the graphs.

That it's called demographics in the espionage screen is a terrible mislabeling. When I first got far enough to be able to see the "demographics" of someone I spent half an hour trying to find out how to display them. Turns out they actually DO mean the graphs.

Did you assign a weight to Mehmed in the espionage screen? You can only see their demographics charts after you get a certain amount of espionage points. If you did assign a weight to him, perhaps he managed to outspy you and increase the required points far over what you had.I wasn't going for a demographics look, I was going for score, power, culture and the graphs. Even though I could see his score in the list, I couldn't see anything affiliated with him in the graphs.

I think Milly is correct, you still need a certain amount of espionage points to see a civ in the power graphs.

I decided to play one last game before I took off to go to bed. I figured a quick Marathon game with a Cultural Victory as my ideal way would be fun to do, so I attempted to do so on a Custom Continents, each team having their own. In the end, I won, but during the game, I came across a few issues that I'd very much appreciate some help on.

Firstly, I placed as Greece, and by end game I knew that the original rivals were Mehmed II and Asoka. By the time I bothered to go out and meet the rest of the world, it was rather late game and there were 4 Civs in the 3 Civ game I had set up. At end game, I saw that Mehmed had created Sitting Bull as a Vassal because he had taken over a Barbarian city on Asoka's continent. This is where things got odd. See, I never knew who the original Civs created were, and who the Vassal was, but when I checked the score, I noticed that the graphs only showed Sitting Bull, Asoka and myself, leaving Mehmed out. I went around, checking and I noticed that Sitting Bull was a Vassal... so why was he appearing in my Powergraphs, and not his Master Mehmed? Below are two images showing my situation.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170024&stc=1&d=1204016931

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170025&stc=1&d=1204017041


I'm just wondering what happened.


With that, I'd like to add that Athens was very, very hard to place according to the map script.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170028&stc=1&d=1204017552


With that, I'd like to also show off my great finds if I may :lol:

Look at the image below. You see where there are Gems, Gold and Silver all basically right on top of each other? They weren't there when I originally found the city, but popped into mines I had created... for my Production powerhouse city. It had Plains/Pigs, 5 water tiles, and 1 normal Plains tile total, the rest of the cross was hills. Best production site I had, and built the city atop a flood plains to get the most of it... then all of that popped. Would have been GREAT anywhere else, but not in my production powerhouse :lol: The Iron would have been a great pop... had I not popped two of the same in the mines by my Great Person Farm.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=170028&stc=1&d=1204017552


Any input on my question is greatly appreciated, and any comments on my luck getting Gems, Silver AND Gold to all pop around one city are more more than welcomed :p


Hi, Mehmed created SB as a colony, so thats why he just appears after some odd years.