I was just wondering, why is Israel a mere independant in RFC? Wouldn't it be a good civ to play.

I know it would be 1 city but they could exploit the BTS addition of espionage. Their UP could be 2X espionage production or more (since it's one city,) and their UU could be a spy that does cheaper missions.

I know it won't be added now but it would be cool to have one huge espionage production civ always on your back that you have to look out for. I really don't use espionage at all right now to be honest.

It will not be done.

I was just wondering, why is Israel a mere independant in RFC? Wouldn't it be a good civ to play.

I haven't really played RFC too much, but I'm assuming it's because Rhye only used Firaxis-made civs.

There is Babylon in Warlords. It is only an exception, through.

Everyone would like their own country in RFC (or in Civ for that matter), but it's just not practical. Sorry.

Everyone would like their own country in RFC (or in Civ for that matter), but it's just not practical. Sorry.

I'm not a Jew. I knew it wouldn't be done in all probability but it would be good to have a civ dependant on espionage.

Try playing as russia, you have really bad research because of the number of cities, but you get an awsomke amount of espionage because of the amount of cities you have. (and therefore can build more courthouses, jails, etc..)

I think you could have guessed that an Israeli might be unlikely to have "aryan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan#Racial_connotations)" in their name.

Yes, I wasn't implying that he was a Jew. By 'own' I meant one they had preference for - perhaps 'favorite' would have been a better choice of words. No offense meant.

Even if Ryse wanted to add Isreal, the Middle East is way too crowded as it is.

Ukraine deserves much more

Yes, Ukraine is the TRUE HOME OF THE COSSACKS!

:p

Israel is the only "civ" I know of that existed in 2 completely different ages of our history. How would you deal with it in RFC ?
Also, it didn't have much an impact on the world to justify its presence, except in the last 50 years, during which it gave and is giving a big contribution in the destabilization of the always fragile world peace equilibrium.

Poland? :D

Can't wait to play as Lichtenstein!

Israel is the only "civ" I know of that existed in 2 completely different ages of our history. How would you deal with it in RFC ?


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At least Ukraine could reasonably have two cities on the map...

Poland? :D

Warsaw is one of the best city sites on the map IMHO.

So Poland-Lithuania is a possibility!

I wouldnt mind a modcomp swapping the maya for Austria, Hungary or poland, would probably download it too...

Why does all "add a civ" related topics in this forum become instant Poland threads...

Because the was a huge argument for their inclusion a while back.

I only suggested Israel because of the fact it is small and not capable of too much but could allow for new and interesting gameplay methods via espionage. I don't see a 1 or 2 city civ in eastern Europe with nothing special to offer being justified.

I don't see a 1 or 2 city civ in eastern Europe with nothing special to offer being justified.

You don't know what you just started...

You don't know what you just started...

Lol I don't mean to upset anyone. I'm new so I don't know about this whole argument but in Rhye's map Germany's Berlin is pretty close to Warsaw and Germany would have to expand only westwards because of this; giving them more eastern land alows them to become the major threat they were to colonial western Europeans. Mainly France and Britain.

Copenhagen and Hamburg won't exactly give Germany the boost it needs.

You don't know what you just started...

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Those Poland debates were so great... though I think that more people were against Poland in the end, as people wanted the flame war to end.

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Those Poland debates were so great... though I think that more people were against Poland in the end, as people wanted the flame war to end.

Berlin and Warsaw would have 2 empty tiles between them, it wouldn't work and certainly wouldn't allow Germany to control the northern historical bits like east Prussia.

Warsaw wouldn't necessarily have to be the capital, though. Krakow could work.

Warsaw wouldn't necessarily have to be the capital, though. Krakow could work.

But Warsaw would have to exist surely, and it's too close.

But Warsaw would have to exist surely, and it's too close.

this is simply BS, there's the same problem with Jerusalem and Sur, and there should be with Jerusalem and Medina. Not to mention that having Poland would be as interesting as having Israel, or probably more.

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LOL, and that translates how in a human played game ? Play a few turns with one goal, vanish and autoplay for 300 turns, come back in the last 50 turns to achieve the last goal ? Wow, sounds very interesting indeed.