Simple question, is there any way of knowing when the diplomatic victory vote will come up once the UN is built? Reason I ask is I currently have a game in the bag and could self vote my way to a diplo win, as I have around 65% world pop. I am just off a domination win but I'd rather avoid a tedious war at this stage, as some of you might understand. I have just built the UN, become secretary general, and out of interest I [shift+enter]ed about 50 turns ahead but I never got the chance to vote a diplo win -- anyone know when it might arise?

If you're playing BTS 3.13, the opportunity for a diplomatic victory won't come up when you have enough votes to vote yourself to victory, you need to need at least one other team voting for you.

If you're playing BTS 3.13, the opportunity for a diplomatic victory won't come up when you have enough votes to vote yourself to victory, you need to need at least one other team voting for you.

Really? So I if I want a diplo win I have to drop my population back a bit so that the other civs' votes count? Makes sense, but this is the first I've heard of it.

You can make colonies. they, as vassals, must vote for you.

I don't know when the vote come. Sometimes the vote was coming each 10 turn and one time it took more time than usely . But 50 turns without a vote is not normal at all.

I've win a diplo victory without any vassal. We was playing a 5 players mp game. 3 played quited. The last guy on the server was at war with one of the IA. I was at peace with everybody. When 15 turn remained, the vote pop up, I was secretary, I voted for myself, the other guy for himself, his enemy for me and the last bot abstain. This is it, I've won.

I also won many other vote, like nuke proliferation and free-market.