View Full Version : Will there be offline multiplayer?? Elizabeth2k do you know?
bernie77 Mar 11, 2008, 08:51 AM Please can someone answer this for me, I know there is online multiplayer but I would like to know if there will be offline multiplayer. I don't play online and would like to play against my friends offline when they come over my house. Does anyone know if this game will support offline multiplayer (Elizabeth2k do you know)?
XxtraLarGe Mar 11, 2008, 11:05 AM By offline, do you mean local wireless, or do you mean hotseat play? Hotseat might be cool too.
dshirk Mar 11, 2008, 02:00 PM Right now it's all online, with the exception of System Link (up to 4 Xbox 360's over a lan).
Kadazzle Mar 11, 2008, 10:22 PM I used to play Lan CoD3 with 7 of my friends, it was great fun. Playing offline Rev on one console would seem off to me, for some reason.
CivGeneral Mar 11, 2008, 10:32 PM There should be an offline multiplay such as hotseat. I mean you have more than one controllers :p.
warpstorm Mar 12, 2008, 05:05 AM There should be an offline multiplay such as hotseat. I mean you have more than one controllers :p.
Not on the DS (which I suspect will be the biggest selling platform for this game).
How would you keep your info secret on the 360 and PS3 versions? Tell your friends to look away for the next few minutes?
bernie77 Mar 12, 2008, 02:16 PM How about if I want to be more than one civilization? I would like to play with more than one civ.
Kadazzle Mar 13, 2008, 10:49 PM That would be "cheating" considering it's like you having a Perm. Alliance with another Civ, while everyone else is by themselves.
GeoffgoB Mar 14, 2008, 06:09 AM Sorry with the various consol formats being talked about can I just confirm something. I'm waiting for the DS version of this so I can hook up at lunch times with my mates over a coffee. Are we saying you can do local "multi card play" or you can't? :confused:
dshirk Mar 14, 2008, 02:43 PM Correct, as long as each of you have the game, you can sit down wherever and play peer to peer. :)
GeoffgoB Mar 14, 2008, 03:22 PM cool, cheers
:goodjob:
warpstorm Mar 14, 2008, 04:33 PM That is perfect.
Thrallia Mar 14, 2008, 06:50 PM but no hotseat? :( tis a shame...I'd love to play with my brothers, as they aren't likely go out and pick up CivRev so without hotseat, I won't be able to play multiplayer with them.
warpstorm Mar 15, 2008, 10:07 AM Back to my earlier question, how would you keep all the hidden information hidden in a hot seat game? Keep in mind that I'd like to see if you were attacking me and not just be told about it later (since Civ resolves combat immediately). How would you handle hot seat diplomacy? Note that I don't want to tip off the guy we are planning on backstabbing. (I'm not asking to be argumentative, I really don't see an elegant solution and would like to know a good solution for my own selfish (future) reasons).
Most games that have tried this and succeeded use a different turn structure than Civ. In nearly every case that worked well (that I am aware of), they used an orders phase and then a resolution phase. By this I mean that everyone puts in their orders, then after everybody has put in what they would like to do the game churns for a while and tells everyone what happened via reports.
Edit: I just learned that MP in CivRev is simultaneous with everyone taking their turns at the same time.
Thrallia Mar 16, 2008, 02:19 AM hm, if turns are simultaneous in CivRev, then hotseat the way you mentioned could work, I believe.
if not, I'm not sure how you'd keep it secret...my brothers and I used to play MP Master of Orion II games hotseat all the time...we just made the others look away when we were doing our turn. It worked for us, but I suppose that might not always work for others.
King Jason Mar 16, 2008, 02:26 AM How would you keep your info secret on the 360 and PS3 versions? Tell your friends to look away for the next few minutes?
Isn't that a factor with all Hotseat, regardless of platform? Hotseat civ2 had the same problems as my brother and I pulled up two chairs in front of the family computer.
I don't understand hot hotseat for any of the other civs suddenly becomes different when the players are on a couch using controllers as opposed to sitting at a desk or passing a laptop back and forth.
It's an inherent dynamic you have to deal with through playing that way. "Look away" is a very simple way to deal with it if you're attempting serious competition between each other. Anyway, no reason not to have it for both versions. The same cons to the mechanic already exist on the PC versions. Yet the option remains.
(Also, the DS hotseat could work easily as well, simply by passing the DS back and forth, which is exactly what I've done with civ4 using a laptop)
King.Bahamot Mar 16, 2008, 07:32 AM buy two ps3 and have fun :D
bernie77 Mar 16, 2008, 05:04 PM I still would like to know if offline multiplayer has been confirmed. :wallbash:
warpstorm Mar 16, 2008, 06:20 PM To summarize the thread, dshirk (a Firaxian) confirmed it for the 360 (in system link mode) and the DS (in local peer to peer mode). There is no hot seat (since all players need to give their orders at the same time).
Padma Mar 16, 2008, 07:04 PM Thanks for the succinct summary, warpstorm. :)
XxtraLarGe Mar 21, 2008, 06:48 PM but no hotseat? :( tis a shame...I'd love to play with my brothers, as they aren't likely go out and pick up CivRev so without hotseat, I won't be able to play multiplayer with them.
Hotseat shoulda been a no-brainer for the DS. A hotseat game of Civ Rev would have the been the perfect thing for long car trips!
Magwill Mar 24, 2008, 12:46 PM To summarize the thread, dshirk (a Firaxian) confirmed it for the 360 (in system link mode) and the DS (in local peer to peer mode). There is no hot seat (since all players need to give their orders at the same time).
Is this information available somewhere officially? From what I read it looked like you just had the option of running a game with simultaneous moves or traditional.
About hot seat. If you can only do simultaneous moves then it will be hard to have hot seat considering you wont see anything on a small TV if you are going split screen in a strategy game. The only hot seat that would work is that you take turns sitting by the computer and that what happened while your friend was playing is replayed for you.
The only hotseat I want is to play as allies with my friends though, and then you don't have this problem since you are both working together. It shouldn't be hard to include this feature really and they should really allow the traditional way of playing.
In the official 2kforums in the question & answers thread one guy says "Yep, we should have hotseat" while Elizabeth answers on a question about online hotseat something like "no we wont have hotseat multiplayer". What this means I don't know, I can only hope that it means hotseat is still there but that you cannot play online with it since it would be strange with 2 players using the same network account. But still you could have unranked matches like this. It is starting to become a trend that developers do not include small features that really matters to some people and that wouldnt cost them too much time of development.
And hi everyone :)
XxtraLarGe Mar 24, 2008, 05:45 PM Is this information available somewhere officially? From what I read it looked like you just had the option of running a game with simultaneous moves or traditional.
About hot seat. If you can only do simultaneous moves then it will be hard to have hot seat considering you wont see anything on a small TV if you are going split screen in a strategy game. The only hot seat that would work is that you take turns sitting by the computer and that what happened while your friend was playing is replayed for you.
The only hotseat I want is to play as allies with my friends though, and then you don't have this problem since you are both working together. It shouldn't be hard to include this feature really and they should really allow the traditional way of playing.
In the official 2kforums in the question & answers thread one guy says "Yep, we should have hotseat" while Elizabeth answers on a question about online hotseat something like "no we wont have hotseat multiplayer". What this means I don't know, I can only hope that it means hotseat is still there but that you cannot play online with it since it would be strange with 2 players using the same network account. But still you could have unranked matches like this. It is starting to become a trend that developers do not include small features that really matters to some people and that wouldnt cost them too much time of development.
And hi everyone :)
Just in case anybody is confused, hotseat is a type of gameplay where you take a turn and then somebody else takes a turn all at the same computer. You get up and leave the computer when it's not your turn, since the other person(s) is(are) in the "hot seat". Obviously you couldn't have a hotseat game if it was real time. On the DS it would be extremely simple, as you just pass the DS back and forth. :king:
dshirk Mar 25, 2008, 07:14 AM Just to confirm, there is no hotseat in Civilization Revolution. While it is something that some people enjoy on the PC, Sid didn't think that it would work very well sitting in front of a TV with friends, especially with the ease of online play on this gen of game consoles.
Magwill Mar 25, 2008, 07:30 AM Just to confirm, there is no hotseat in Civilization Revolution. While it is something that some people enjoy on the PC, Sid didn't think that it would work very well sitting in front of a TV with friends, especially with the ease of online play on this gen of game consoles.
I see a Firaxis logo, is this then a official statement from a developer? It saddens me if there is no hotseat as to many sitting in front of the TV with friends is all what consoles are about. But I shouldn't contradict myself, consoles are becoming more and more like PCs so its not all about sitting in front of the TV with friends anymore. However I think that if hotseat is working for PC it should really work for consoles as well if not better.
Padma Mar 25, 2008, 07:44 AM Consider it an official statement from Firaxis. ;)
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