I've have found out to install a civilization (unzip, put in a folder that is in a folder, load that mod), so do you do the exact same thing for a downloaded pre-made map and open it in load-a-mod in advanced options to use it?

And if anyone knows how to, how do you install a update and do you have to install earlier versions of the update before you can update the game with the latest version (sorry for the lack of intelligence I hold)?

When I try to install patch v.2.13 (version for the Mac) it says "The following disk images failed to mount Civ4_Warlords_2.13.dn: not recognized.

1. Maps go in the Public Maps folder in your ~/Documents/Civ4 ... folder chain. Then you open them by selecting Play a Scenario.

2. The patches from Aspyr always state explicitly that they update any previous version of the relevant game. SO, no, you don't have to install them in sequence.

3. It sounds as if you have a corrupted download. The disk image file should be called Civ4_Warlords_2.13.dmg, not Civ4_Warlords_2.13.dn

What do you mean with "... folder chain" because I've tried placing the map in the public maps folder and opening it Play a Scenario and it didn't work? Also, am I supposed to place it in the Civ4 documents or Civ4 Warlords documents?

For the patch, the name was cut off by the second part of the message so I assumed it was ".dn" but I've checked and it is ".dmg". I got the error by doubling clicking on the file which resulted in opening it with DiskImageMounter, am I supposed to place the file in a folder rather than installing it on to my computer?

I was simply trying to tell you the general direction to head down in your file system to find the PublicMaps folder. I deliberately left the final part of the folder path unstated, because you didn't specify whether you wanted to play the map in vanilla or warlords.

To spell it out:

Maps for vanilla go in:

~/Documents/Civilization IV/PublicMaps/

Maps for Warlords go in:

~/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords/PublicMaps/

Which map are you trying to get going?

- xxxx.dmg files are Disk Image files.

- When you double click a .dmg file it should mount as a virtual disk in your Finder and on your desktop called Civilization IV Warlords 2.13.

- The Warlords patch installer is a file within the virtual disk, called Civilization IV Warlords 2.13 Installer.

- Double click the installer to install the patch.

I am trying to get this map going... http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=156907 . I've tried opening the map in Civilization 4 by placing it in the Warlords documents, PublicMaps and then Playing a Scenario but it didn't work.

I try to mount the .dmg file as a virtual disk in my finder by double clicking on it but it says it failed to mount.

That's a WorldBuilder save, so you put it in ~/Documents/Civilization IV/Saves/WorldBuilder/ and then use Play a Scenario to start a game on it.

You can put it in ~/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords/Saves/WorldBuilder/ to run it in Warlords. It will appear at the bottom of the scenarios list with (Civ4) appended to the name, because its file name extension is .Civ4WorldBuilderSave file, not .CivWarlordsWBSave.

If the disk image fails to mount then it is probably a corrupt download - my original suggestion. I guess you'll have to try downloading it again.

I've tried putting the file in the place you suggested again, however, again it didn't work so I will try to download it again.

It still didn't work but I did notice that the place where I am supposed to put the file is a different format of the other one and that file works. What I mean is the northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave file is a Unix Executable File while another one of my files in this folder is a document. Am I missing something here?

I assume you have unzipped it before putting it into the ~/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords//Saves/WorldBuilder/ folder? I can't think of any reason why it would not appear in your Play a Scenario list if it's in there as northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave. It works fine here.

The system assigns a file type description based on what it knows about that file extension. It's not critical information in this case, as it only affects which application teh Finder tries to use when you double click the file. Double clicking any Civ4 file has very little value on the Mac, as the Civ4 application will not try to open the double clicked file. If the other files in the Warlords/Saves/WorldBuilder/ folder are .CivWarlordsWBSave files then the system may consider them a different file type, but it really doesn't matter.

Sorry, now I have not unzipped it, I will do that right now. By the way, you were fast replying to my reply.

Update: I tried to unzip the file but this came up,

Processing archive: /Users/~/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords/Saves/WorldBuilder/northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave

Error: /Users/~/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords/Saves/WorldBuilder/northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave is not supported archive

It seems to be that whenever I try to do something, there is always a problem!

The downloaded file was a .zip file. However, if your browser is Safari, and is using its default settings, then it will have automatically unzipped the file to create the northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave file. So, there was no need to try to unzip it again, and I'm not even sure how you managed to persuade the system to try to do so. I only wanted to ensure that you were not attempting to use the zip file. That being the case, the file should work as it is.

Just a thought ... Have you manually edited the above file paths to include the '~'? When I, or anyone else, gives a file path starting with '~/' this is shorthand meaning "your home folder". So if your home folder is called 'matthew', the correct full path would be:

/Users/matthew/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords/Saves/WorldBuilder/northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave

If you have a real folder called /Users/~/ then this would be a bit strange.

First off, sorry I took so long to reply, I thought I was waiting for you to reply, guess I was wrong!

Can't you access the users folder from Macintosh HD? I thought everyone could?

I will try again...

Update: I tried and it didn't work, however I did realize that the other document in the Saves/WorldBuilder is a file that I accidentally created because when I was reading the tips when the game was loading, it said a short cut for a quick save and I misunderstood what it meant for, so I can delete that file. You did say that I had to open in "Play a Scenario" right?

Can't you access the users folder from Macintosh HD? I thought everyone could?


Of course. Sorry if you're having problems understanding my twisted logic. Let me explain what I was trying to understand:

You posted error messages that said:


Processing archive: /Users/~/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords/Saves/WorldBuilder/northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave

Error: /Users/~/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords/Saves/WorldBuilder/northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave is not supported archive


it is unusual for an error message to identify the file path as "/Users/~/Documents/... etc". It would usually either say "~/Documents/... etc" or "Users/matthew/Documents/... etc"

Since I don't know how you persuaded the system to *try* to process northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave as an archive, I can't reproduce those error messages, but I was concerned that there may be something odd about your file system. That's all!

Oh, ok, sorry about that, I did misunderstand what you were trying to say but the folder doesn't say that it self, I was just saying it so that no one could found out my real name (prevent identity theft). It shows my real name on my computer I just didn't tell you that. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Huh... AlanH? Are you still there? Either way, if you get this (forgive me if you think I am being impatient), the map still doesn't upload, do you have any idea after reading my message above?

Hi

My last relevant comment was "That being the case, the file should work as it is."!

Let's summarise what I think we know:

- You have put the northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave file into your existing ~/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords/Saves/WorldBuilder/ folder.

- You have launched the Warlords application, and selected "Single Player"->"Play a Scenario".

- If all of the above is correct, then it should work. But, when you look at the bottom of the Select a Map list you do not see northamerica (Civ4) as an option. So it doesn't work!

Do you see ANY maps listed in that screen? If not then maybe Warlords and/or Civ4 needs to be reinstalled. If you do see other maps listed then there should be no earthly reason for the northamerica.Civ4WorldBuilderSave one to be missing. All it needs in order to show up is that it must be be in the right folder and it must have the right file name extension. At this stage Civ4 doesn't care what's inside the file.

I am assuming you mean ~/Documents?Civilization IV Warlords/Saves/ WorldBuilder/folder... other than that, everything thing else seems the same. I will go check.

Update: Okay, weird, now I can't open "Play a Scenario", the only other thing I have done since then I have played is check out multiplayer and there the game said I had to update my game to version 2.13, then it said to quit Warlords and install the patch, which I don't know how to. However, I do know that in ~(my real name shows up)/Documents/Civilization IV Warlords/Patches/folder, Patch_213.exe shows up. Other than that, I haven't done anything.

I am assuming you mean ~/Documents?Civilization IV Warlords/Saves/ WorldBuilder/folder Correct. The slash should be a space. I've edited it. You haven't answered my question: "Do you see ANY maps listed in that screen?". But since you can't even open "Play a Scenario" now, I guess that explains it. If that has failed now, then I seriously recommend a reinstallation.

There's absolutely no point in trying to use the in-game upgrade menu option. It downloads the Windows updater, which is the Patches/Patch_213.exe you now have. It will do nothing for you, but neither would it be responsible for the loss of your "Play a Scenario" menu option.

If you want to upgrade to version 2.13 then you need the Aspyr updater, not the Windows one. Go to the Inside Mac Games link in the relevant sticky thread in this forum. However, upgrading to 2.13 is unlikely to affect your problem with the northamerica map, and there's no guarantee that it will help with multiplayer either!

Have you tried putting that map file into ~/Civilization IV/Saves/WorldBuilder/, and launching Civ4 vanilla? Does Play a Scenario show up there? If so, does northamerica show up?

Oh, sorry I was meaning to answer that but I got carried away with wondering why Play a Scenario didn't work. Before this happened, I remember there were other maps in the list, assuming all the ones that are included in the Warlords expansion pack (there was like Alexander the Great etc).

I will reinstall, check if the map file works in Vanilla and upgrade to version 2.13.

I will be back in a while...

Oh, sorry I was meaning to answer that but I got carried away with wondering why Play a Scenario didn't work. Before this happened, I remember there were other maps in the list, assuming all the ones that are included in the Warlords expansion pack (there was like Alexander the Great etc).

I will reinstall, check if the map file works in Vanilla and upgrade to version 2.13.

I will be back in a while...

Update: Darn, I deleted the Windows version of the patch and it still doesn't work, I guess I will have to reinstall now, however, would the patch I installed from multiplayer you be talking in the Patches folder that is in the Warlords documents? Also, as I mentioned above, I did install version 2.13 for the mac however it said it failed to mount...

Internet multiplayer demands version 2.13, assumes you are on Windows, and gives you a .exe patch file to install. A .exe patch file installer is irrelevant when you are running the Mac version, and it does nothing for you, positive or negative. It's just dead disk space.

Let's just try to get your basic Warlords working to the stage where it can see and open a WorldBuilder save. We can worry about upgrading to version 2.13 later. However, if your OS X system is incapable of opening a .dmg file then we may have more than just Civ4/Warlords to re-install!

I installed Civilization 4 but when I got to Warlords, it said to install Civilization 4 again because it was properly installed (I am assuming they mean reinstall) so I have to uninstall and install Civilization 4, maybe this will give you a clue as to way the map won't show. By the way, the Load a Scenario button was only greyed out, it didn't vanish or anything, I was just in able to open it.

Are you suggesting to re-install my whole computer?

Update: I re-re-installed Civilization 4 but still the error comes. The error exactly says:

Civilization IV does not appear to be installed correctly.

The installation of Civilization IV (located at /Applications is not valid. Install Civilization IV again to fix this problem.

I re-install Civilization 4 again, but the same message comes up.

Update: I had to copy the Civilization 4 game from the folder to the Applications folder and then it worked, problem solved (so you can just forget about the previous update I am just not gonna delete it because someone else might have the same problem and can use this as a solution).

Update: I re-installed Civ. 4 and Warlords, so good news and bad news. The bad news is even after I re-installed everything, the Play a Scenario button is not ungreyed meaning I can't open it, same thing with Custom Scenario (that happened too before re-installing). The good news is I can play the North American map in Vanilla. I am assuming this means the map and my Vanilla is perfectly fine but the Warlords expansion pack is the problem because I just re-installed, that means I am missing nothing from the expansion pack. So, perhaps I have to add or change something in the expansion pack. I did add the map, so if I take that out, it should be working perfectly fine, if not something's really wrong and I have no clue whatsoever it is. I will check if Warlords works fine without the map in the Vanilla documents.

Update: Ok, with and without the North American map in the documents of Vanilla, the Load a Scenario or Custom Scenario doesn't show up in Warlords. I tried again by putting that map in the location provided for Warlords, same result occurred. I looked in Load a Mod in Warlords and I found a Barebones Mod I was able to open, I remember not downloading any mod other than the Canada one and the other mods in the menu didn't have the mod word in the name. So I figured that the company probably didn't make this file. So I opened it and I was able to play the American Civilization with Barbarian leader showing in the sidebar with the creator person (I think it is Sid Meier) in the center. Do you have this or not, I find it really weird?

Are you suggesting to re-install my whole computer?
I was half joking (but only half!) when I said you might need to install more than Civ4 if you can't mount a disk image in OS X.

Update: I had to copy the Civilization 4 game from the folder to the Applications folder and then it worked As far as I recall that is the standard way to install Civ4. You certainly can't run it from the DVD.

Ok, with and without the North American map in the documents of Vanilla, the Load a Scenario or Custom Scenario doesn't show up in Warlords. Files of any kind in either vanilla or Warlords /Saves/WorldBuilder folders should not affect whether the menu buttons are enabled.

I looked in Load a Mod in Warlords and I found a Barebones Mod I was able to openI remember not downloading any mod other than the Canada one and the other mods in the menu didn't have the mod word in the name. So I figured that the company probably didn't make this file.
Barebones mod comes from Aspyr/Firaxis as part of the Warlords installation. I don't know whether Firaxis *made* the mod, but they certainly supply it as part of the game.

So I opened it and I was able to play the American Civilization with Barbarian leader showing in the sidebar with the creator person (I think it is Sid Meier) in the center. Do you have this or not, I find it really weird?
Yes, I have the same options. What's weird? Sid Meier appearing as a Barbarian? Or the American Empire being lead by a Barbarian? Personally, I have no problem with either concept :p

However, none of that fixes your inability to use the Play a Scenario button. I have no idea what's stopping that. You say you can use it in vanilla, so I can only imagine there's something wrong with your Warlords installation. Are you auto-loading a mod when you launch Warlords? Maybe that's preventing you from opening scenarios?

First off, sorry for writing so much!

I guess I should've known that WorldBuilder saves wouldn't affect the menu buttons.

Ok, I was scared for a second thinking that I might have had a virus or something on my Mac (even though I know Macs don't have any viruses).

I find both of the concepts weird. I mean, Sid being a leader for the Barbarians and the Barbarians representing the American Empire. Seems all far-fetched.

I am not auto-loading any mod, not at least that I know of. When I load Warlords, no name shows up in the top right hand corner, so no mods are being automatically loaded.

I do remember that before I had the Canada Mod, the same thing happened to me, I was enable to open Load a Scenario or Custom Scenario but it didn't bother me as I didn't need it. I will try installing the Canada Mod and see if it has any effect.

Update: No it didn't work, I am not surprised, I am guessing you would say a mod wouldn't affect the menu options... lol

Update: Well, I guess this is a big problem. I simply looked at you and expected an answer (no offense). I guess you shouldn't expect to much. I mean, thank you for at least trying to help me, no one else has even bothered a suggestion. :) I will have to hope that someday, randomly, the buttons will work and everything will work out fine.

I know it's a bit far fetched, but have you considered getting professional help - contacting Aspyr Tech Support?

No, I actually have not. That is a good suggestion, but let me try some things before I might.

Update: Couldn't figure out anything, so I have contacted Aspyr Tech Support. How does the ticket system work? Is like these forums?

How does the ticket system work? Is like these forums?
Not really. You can only see your own tickets, and you get email copies of the replies from Aspyr support.

Okay, how long do they (Aspryr Support) usually take to answer (edit- doesn't matter now I don't need the answer after doing it myself)?

Also, I have downloaded the latest version of the patch for Warlords (I downloaded it the same Aspyr Support said on their website), but it says which Warlords to update, the one in my applications or the one in my desktop folder... which one should I update (edit- never mind)?

Update: Sweet! Because I was trying to make all the Warlord applications the same kind to only have to update one, I deleted all my Warlords applications except for the one in my desktop folder then copying that Warlords to applications and again the first Warlords (the one from my desktop folder) to my dock, the Play a Scenario and Custom Scenario came up in Warlords, including the North American Map in the scenarios! On top of that, my update with the patch worked perfectly as I checked trying to play multiplayer.

I guess that Load a Scenario and Custom Scenario didn't show up because I remember dragging the Warlords from the desktop folder into the applications and then I dragged the one from the applications to the dock, I don't know why that would affect the game but I am assuming it did (I hope this isn't too confusing).

Again, my problems are solved. :)

I'm pleased to see you're sorted. I really don't understand how you ended up with two Warlords applications, which was a little tidbit that you omitted to mention. The Warlords application *has* to be in the same folder as Civ4 as far as I know. But I guess it's water under the bridge now.

Does your Warlords upgrade that mean you are now able to get disk images to mount?

Apparently, when I looked up on Aspyr Support, it said that the 1.74 version of the patch had problems with Leopard and that Safari automatically mounts the disk images which causes problems and in order to work it out you have to use Firefox and save the patch to the disk and then drag the file to the desktop. There double click on the file and it will go from there, if you want to view this go to http://support.aspyr.com/index.php?x=&mod_id=2&id=484...

...I don't know what I did either but as long as it's water under the bridge now, it's good...