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Blue Monkey Mar 14, 2008, 04:25 PM Hope you don't mind that I started a new thread. It made sense to me to get one going for the 2D work that Balthasar & I are doing, and I'm sure others will eventually contribute as well.
Here's where I'm at with the era splashes -
I came up with five images I really liked. So eventually there will be five in the set. Because of the pictures I chose for now I'm calling them:
Age of Clockwork
Age of Steam
Age of Analysis (Babbage or Freud or both)
Age of Electricity
Age of AutomataI've got versions saved with & without titles in case you want different labels or none. Era 1 (Clockwork) is shown in a finished (unless there's an oops) state. The preview of the others shows versions without titles and without palette reduction. I hope it's obvious which is which.
Era 1
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5642/era1titledwq1.png
Eras Preview Thumbnail
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3664/speraspreviewjc1.th.jpg (http://img388.imageshack.us/my.php?image=speraspreviewjc1.jpg)
Blue Monkey Mar 15, 2008, 04:05 PM Here's Era 2. It's a slow process to finish these because a large amount of pixel-by-pixel cleanup is needed around the title.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7757/era2titledfx6.png
Moosezilla Mar 18, 2008, 11:17 AM Go Blue! ...and I don't mean Michigan!
Balthasar Mar 19, 2008, 02:51 PM Sorry it took me so long to spot the new thread! These are absolutely beautiful Blue. I've spent some time trying to come up with constructive suggestions, but these are so perfect that there's almost nothing that I can suggest, save for this: I understand (and vigorously support!) the breakdown of the ages into clockwork, steam, electricity and automata, and I am intrigued by the possibilities of each, but (you can see this coming) why have an Age of Analysis? It doesn't seem to fit. Explain, please.
Blue Monkey Mar 19, 2008, 06:18 PM Sorry it took me so long to spot the new thread! These are absolutely beautiful Blue. I've spent some time trying to come up with constructive suggestions, but these are so perfect that there's almost nothing that I can suggest, save for this: I understand (and vigorously support!) the breakdown of the ages into clockwork, steam, electricity and automata, and I am intrigued by the possibilities of each, but (you can see this coming) why have an Age of Analysis? It doesn't seem to fit. Explain, please.There are only four eras but I had five really nice pictures.;)
Then I had to come up with & justify the specific name. I told myself - how could you have a SteamPunk world without some analog to Babbage's engines? (Gibson & Sterling (http://www.amazon.com/Difference-Engine-Spectra-Special-Editions/dp/055329461X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205971976&sr=1-1), anyone?). Turing machines (general purpose computational devices) would have to precede true automata in a logical progression of technology. The Analytic Engine was more general purpose than the Difference Engine; and also it allowed the word play connecting in psychiatry, which was at least in proto form by the late Victorian Era (conscious machines & man's unconscious).
I'm finishing the pixel clean up on the last of the eras that remained to do. I hope to post the set by the end of the week.
And speaking of difference engines - here's a little sneak peek at my other major project (well more of just a tease) - the one I've been working on for a few months now:
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/3695/diffengsamplejw4.png
Let's just say that it's got about eight bits' worth of brothers & sisters. But keep that under your hat.:p
Balthasar Mar 20, 2008, 06:55 AM YESYes! You are cookin' some good stew there, brother. I'm working on some terrain ideas I can preview soon.
Edit: I wanted to mention that I like the type fonts you're using.
Virote_Considon Mar 20, 2008, 10:00 AM Nice work, Blue!
Blue Monkey Mar 20, 2008, 11:44 AM Thanks, guys.
Edit: The fonts used are "Percival" in the era splashes & "Folkard" for the tech icon.
Blue Monkey Mar 21, 2008, 03:27 PM "Do you dare, Sir, to accept the challenge that faces you?" - Professor Symian Azure
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8153/alicedoor2hi4.png
Balthasar Mar 22, 2008, 11:58 PM "Nothing would please me more; I must warn you though, I am confident of my success" - Phileas Fogg
Great work Blue!
Blue Monkey Mar 23, 2008, 01:17 AM Thank you. I'm still working on the other little project; now it looks like it won't be finished until sometime next week.
Blue Monkey Mar 29, 2008, 07:11 PM .
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8153/alicedoor2hi4.png
Balthasar May 15, 2008, 03:56 PM Reposted in the map creation thread. Look there.
Blue Monkey May 15, 2008, 10:18 PM BM- did you miss the Tsuga graphics I uploaded on post 25? - 0 views since I posted them.Mentally bookmarked - just not at stage where I'm ready to put them to use yet.
Balthasar Jun 12, 2008, 11:18 AM Did you say you were looking for Victorian Leaderheads?
Here's a sample of what you can find in our own database:
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/5300/victorianleaderheadspt1xq0.jpg
Couldn't fit it all into one file, so here's part 2:
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/8248/victorianleaderheadspt2bw3.jpg
To comment on your favorites, imagine them numbered by rows, left to right.
For instance, my picks would be:
Fogg = 1(5), 2(5) Mina Harkin = 1(3)
Moriarty = 2(1) Dracula = 2(3)
Victor Frankenstein = 1(7)
I think that it's pretty obvious that the Tharks are Orks with extra arms, so we can decide, for their Leaderhead between This (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads/tharpreview3_9f8.jpg) guy and this guy (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads/grimpreviews2_H1h.jpg).
I was thinking that any of these we don't use for leaderheads (we only need two of these for that), I could turn into advisors, so your opinion of which would be best for domestic advisor, etc., etc. would also be helpful. In fact, we could probably get a set of "Evil" advisors together as well.
Unfortunately GI Dustin's site went down before I could check out "heads" there, so if that comes back online, we have more options!
And so Gentlemen,the floor is open!
Blue Monkey Jun 12, 2008, 01:35 PM The second "guy", upper left, has a very Barsoom looking background. The Slann LH from WH is another possibility.
"More" 3(1) looks like a passable Ming. There's got to be an Asian LH out there that would work for Fu Manchu.
Maybe one of the LH makers (R8XFT ?) that has made some Indians could be persuaded to make a Nemo with a more SPish background.
Balthasar Jun 12, 2008, 03:26 PM R8XFT did most of the best of these. He's really good with Victorians. King Arthur has said that he's thinking of Moriarty as leader of the Evils, and Phineas Fogg leader of the Gentlemen. The LOEG stories suggest Mina Harkin or Allan Quartermain. We could mix it up in future Steampunk scenarios (there will be more! mwahahahaha!), such as your Other Worlds Map. That one you suggested for Ming (actually at 2(7) as I count it) would be good for that. He's wonderfully evil looking, that's why I couldn't resist having him in here. I'm actually more interested in which of these would go with which advisor? Don't forget there will be units for all these guys as well, if all goes as planned. You know which Indian units are available (and some that aren't, I'm sure) around here, so I'm interested in which unit you'd pick to be Nemo.
Blue Monkey Jun 12, 2008, 04:00 PM I'm actually more interested in which of these would go with which advisor? Don't forget there will be units for all these guys as well, if all goes as planned. You know which Indian units are available (and some that aren't, I'm sure) around here, so I'm interested in which unit you'd pick to be Nemo.Actually I'm not aware of a good Nemo unit. I would think he ought to be turbaned, sort of a nehru-collared jacket, loose trousers with boots, a pistol (tesla/volta*) in one hand and a mameluke sword (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mameluke_sword) in the other. Something like:
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/1892/napoleonicindiansvs6.jpg
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http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9982/retroblastermx7.th.jpg (http://img526.imageshack.us/my.php?image=retroblastermx7.jpg)
As to a science advisor - (personally I prefer Dr. X, second from last):
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/7079/madscientistadvisorgallerytl5.jpg
KingArthur Jun 13, 2008, 03:28 AM I like 2 (6) as Fogg but I also had in mind the Industrial Era Hannibal from PTW. I quite like the 2(1) Moriarty too and agree with BM about the Martian background.
The Slann I see as being Venusian since it conjurs up hot, steamy, jungle type planet; besides the orcs have those tusks that are a prominent feature of Tharks.
For Nemo, I like the top left pic- with a tesla pistol and mameluke sword that would be a really cool look.
Good idea for turning the others into Advisors Balthasar. I have no real preference for who is who but a few females in there might be a nice touch.
Balthasar Jun 13, 2008, 04:14 PM I like 2 (6) as Fogg but I also had in mind the Industrial Era Hannibal from PTW. I quite like the 2(1) Moriarty too and agree with BM about the Martian background.
Oop! I had forgotten to scan my own files for leaderheads. I have to respectfully disagree about the Hannibal as Fogg, though. He has bad teeth.
For Nemo, I like the top left pic- with a tesla pistol and mameluke sword that would be a really cool look.
I strongly agree!
I'm gonna start on those advisors, then. I think I have a good handle on which ones we won't be using as leaderheads, at least in this scenario.
Blue Monkey Jun 13, 2008, 04:41 PM If you can find one that looks like Ada Lovelace, she'd make an excellent science advisor.
Images here (http://www.tgdaily.com/images/slideshows/200803241/ada3.jpg) & here (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ada_Lovelace).
"Researching Precision Gearing would make a Difference, Sir!"
Balthasar Jun 17, 2008, 09:10 PM http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/3451/vicadvisorsad8.jpg
The Victorian Advisors are complete.
And yes, Ada Lovelace is the Science Advisor.
EDIT: The link is here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=9787).
KingArthur Jun 19, 2008, 05:49 AM Looks great Balthasar. And you even found a place for the guy with the bad teeth :)
Balthasar Jun 19, 2008, 12:54 PM you even found a place for the guy with the bad teeth
...and I had to recolor his chin in every frame.
Unfortunately, the response to these advisors has been underwhelming, with only one DL, apparently you (although, as director of this project, you're the guy that counts). I'm thinking of redoing the idea anyway, taking more advantage of the opportunity to animate and back-light the side icons. My thought is to use images of, say, a ledger, a barrel, a globe, etc instead of the "left side" advisor heads, while leaving the "Victorian" heads on the advisor screens. Any thoughts? (I realize it's actually a minor matter - I'm really just looking for something to do.)
Virote_Considon Jun 19, 2008, 02:24 PM I like them, too :)
KingArthur Jun 19, 2008, 02:25 PM You must have another fan as I left my comment at work but downloaded the file just now. I'd say the idea of the left side icons has merit. I had thought of something resembling the old wire-bell-pull systems with name boards underneath: Domestic, Trade etc. As if you were ringing them up on the internal communication system (see attached pic). But I think your icons sound better.
Balthasar Jun 21, 2008, 04:14 AM Ok guys, I changed the Left Side Advisor Icons to look like this:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads/advisor_icons_5t6.jpg
The pages turn, the box opens, the medal waves, the globe turns, the violin fiddles, the electricity crackles. Not bad for a night's work. I just rewrote over the rar file, so you must re-download it if you want these.
Balthasar Sep 02, 2008, 06:28 AM I've been working on Buildings. Here's the first Batch:
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3440/buildingspart1vw5.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/1156/buildingspart2fi2.jpg
Two more sets to go....
Balthasar Sep 09, 2008, 01:20 AM Here's the third batch of buildings:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/8638/buildingspart3gh1.jpg
One to go...
KingArthur Sep 09, 2008, 04:07 PM Those are great Balthasar - the cloudbuster is weirdly Monty Python like but great. I really like the Secret Passage too.
Balthasar Sep 10, 2008, 06:42 AM Thanks, King Arthur. I was going to insert the giant foot nuke here and facetiously suggest it be used for the Fulgerator, but I can't find it anywhere. The originals of all of these look much better, by the way.
Blue Monkey Sep 10, 2008, 08:16 AM Thanks, King Arthur. I was going to insert the giant foot nuke here and facetiously suggest it be used for the Fulgerator, but I can't find it anywhere. The originals of all of these look much better, by the way.I'm sure I could track it down for you, but shouldn't it be the wonder splash?
Balthasar Sep 10, 2008, 03:32 PM I'm sure I could track it down for you, but shouldn't it be the wonder splash?
You're quite right. Something like this, perhaps?
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6950/pythonmachinezk9.jpg
Now I have to get back to making little pink icons....
Blue Monkey Sep 10, 2008, 03:41 PM Something like this, perhaps?
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6950/pythonmachinezk9.jpg
Now I have to get back to making little pink icons....:lol::eek::lol:
Balthasar Sep 19, 2008, 06:00 AM More Buildings:
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/3917/buildingspart4rc9.jpg
Just 3 buildings to go....
KingArthur Sep 19, 2008, 06:23 AM They're brill! Great job Balthasar.
Blue Monkey Sep 19, 2008, 06:55 PM Realized my tech & wonder WIPs should probably be over here.
How's this for Worldwide Commerce (not yet an indexed palette)?
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6500/wwc1kk3.png
KingArthur Sep 21, 2008, 02:18 AM Ooh lovely money. I like it.
Blue Monkey Sep 21, 2008, 08:31 AM Ooh lovely money. I like it.
Next up, scaling & indexing (ooo, that sounds so fiduciary).
Balthasar Sep 21, 2008, 11:38 AM The final three buildings:
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2033/buildingspart5mv6.jpg
For anyone who can't wait for the assembled mod, the whole set can be uploaded here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10743).
Okay Blue Monkey, now I'm looking forward to your Wonder Splashes. Are you going to do the icons too, or could you use help with that?
KingArthur Sep 21, 2008, 02:31 PM Those are great Balth. I can't even pick a fave out of those 3.
Blue Monkey Sep 21, 2008, 04:00 PM Okay Blue Monkey, now I'm looking forward to your Wonder Splashes. Are you going to do the icons too, or could you use help with that?I have no experience with the wonder icons - have at it.
Here's a list of my current work queue for the tech icons & wonder splashes. "Done" is self-explanatory, WIPs are WIPS (the ones with my name are redoes of the old wonders), anything under possible images, a lot of the WIPs, or not on my list at all is free game for anyone - not at all stepping on my steel-toed work boots.
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3774/techwipshp2.jpg
Balthasar Sep 22, 2008, 06:51 AM I have no experience with the wonder icons - have at it....anything under possible images, a lot of the WIPs, or not on my list at all is free game for anyone
I'm on it.
Here's my take on the Sick Asylum Districts Icon:
189384
189383
189385
Florence Nightingale.
Blue Monkey Sep 22, 2008, 08:23 AM An icon to envy. :goodjob:
Blue Monkey Sep 22, 2008, 07:47 PM MARS FOREIGN OFFICE TO BE UNVEILED ?
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/805/mars1lp1.png
If this works for the Mars Foreign Office, then I'll index the palette.
The Lunar will be similar, but with a dark sky & Earth well in view.
KingArthur Sep 23, 2008, 02:36 PM Looks great BM
Blue Monkey Sep 23, 2008, 04:07 PM Looks great BMBalthasar PMed me that perhaps it was a little too yellow. I'm going to try a version with the sky paler, & the whole a bit desaturated. He also expressed the opinion that perhaps the Brits should be larger - what do you think?
The building, by the bye, is Victoria Memorial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Memorial), in Kolkata (formerly Calcutta), India.
AndrewG Sep 23, 2008, 07:22 PM IMO, the sky is too flat -- clouds would be nice.
Balthasar PMed me that perhaps it was a little too yellow. I'm going to try a version with the sky paler, & the whole a bit desaturated. He also expressed the opinion that perhaps the Brits should be larger - what do you think?
The building, by the bye, is Victoria Memorial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Memorial), in Kolkata (formerly Calcutta), India.
Blue Monkey Sep 24, 2008, 08:25 AM Here are some variations on the MFO:
thumbnail
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/606/mfopreviewxl9.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mfopreviewxl9.jpg)
and a late dispatch - a less yellow "D"
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http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/515/mars3gsepiapreviewls9.th.png (http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mars3gsepiapreviewls9.png)
Balthasar Sep 24, 2008, 04:31 PM I tend to prefer images "B" and "F" because of the texture; but is there any way that you can alter the attitude of the Embassy so that the door faces into the frame? I was always taught to try to have everything face into the frame if possible. I like the hint of color in that last one; in fact, if you changed the orientation of the embassy and added just a hint of texture to that one, it would probably be perfect.....
Blue Monkey Sep 24, 2008, 04:58 PM I tend to prefer images "B" and "F" because of the texture; but is there any way that you can alter the attitude of the Embassy so that the door faces into the frame? I was always taught to try to have everything face into the frame if possible.The orientation was a chosen just because it was easier to work with a ragged bottom where other elements of the photo was cropped, but that is entirely doable without excessive amounts of work. I like the hint of color in that last one; in fact, if you changed the orientation of the embassy and added just a hint of texture to that one, it would probably be perfect. The texture is added by a GIMP filter that is called "Old Photo". I'm pretty sure there is a setting that will not darken the photo so much - thus preserving the color you like. I can also try using that filter on a separate transparent layer to see if more of the color can be preserved & to control the texturing without losing the underlying image. Do you think it would look better with or without the image blurring, and also with or without the bordering?
Balthasar Sep 24, 2008, 08:58 PM Without and without. Thanks.
Blue Monkey Sep 25, 2008, 10:17 AM Here's the best I can do - the titles refer to where the mottling has been applied. The darkening is an unavoidable artifact of the mottling process. These are both indexed. If one looks acceptable then I will start the same process on a Lunar version.
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/9857/previewmd8.jpg
The only thing I know I could do differently is to swap the sky between the images. If I just try to lighten the second one I can't maintain a good look for the building & figures.
Balthasar Sep 25, 2008, 10:24 AM I think they both look great. If I was forced to a decision, I'd say the 'Sky only' one.
Blue Monkey Sep 25, 2008, 10:35 AM I think they both look great. If I was forced to a decision, I'd say the 'Sky only' one.My choice also - I like the greater color variation. Here it is.
Mars Foreign Office (MFO) (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10761&act=down)
Now on to Luna.
Balthasar Sep 25, 2008, 01:49 PM Updated buildings files posted in Downloads Database here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10743). Fixes: fixed pallette on Railway Station Small ; added in Salon pcx that was inexplicably left out of the original. If you've already downloaded them all I've attached the fixed files to this post.
Blue Monkey Sep 26, 2008, 10:34 PM Needed to clear my head before I tackle the LFO, so I looked through the WIPs to see what I could bring to a nearly finished form in short order. Critiques & comments?
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9437/80days1fy2.png
Balthasar Sep 27, 2008, 01:14 AM I love the background image. I think the lettering is a little hard to see against that background - putting it in french is an interesting touch.
edit: You might keep that color though, if you move the first 3 lines of the Title over to the left (the darker part of the picture) and let the "en 80 Jours" tail off to the right....
Blue Monkey Sep 27, 2008, 08:38 AM I love the background image. I think the lettering is a little hard to see against that background - putting it in french is an interesting touch.
edit: You might keep that color though, if you move the first 3 lines of the Title over to the left (the darker part of the picture) and let the "en 80 Jours" tail off to the right....I'll try that. If it doesn't work, I've got just the bg in both sepia & b&w.
Blue Monkey Sep 27, 2008, 05:00 PM Bensington & Redwood's Elixir, and Iron Works. Acceptable?
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/9415/brironpreviewwf2.jpg
download (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10780&act=down)
What will next be revealed to the world ... the Giant Rat of Sumatra?
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6787/junglesherlockok3.png
Blue Monkey Sep 28, 2008, 12:44 AM thumbnail
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5001/5wonderpreviewvo3.th.jpg (http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=5wonderpreviewvo3.jpg)
So, what's all this then?
My best shot at the "80 Days" - I'm going for the look of those florid Belle Époque book covers.
I could think of no better "Crystal Palace" splash than Her Majesty Queen Victoria opening the Great Exhibition.
An unexpected (& unasked for) event - "May God continue the unity of our Country, as this Railroad unites the two great Oceans of the world."
2 versions of the "Red Cross" ;)
Download (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10782&act=down)
Balthasar Sep 28, 2008, 12:58 AM I'm really digging these Wonder Splashes. These and the previous two are just inspired. While I'm putting these into the game, I made some placeholder icons which are available here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10783). I'll be making icons for all of these tonight.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads/chancewonder_kv7.jpg
Balthasar Sep 28, 2008, 07:07 AM Here's a taste: Around the world in 80 Days
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2826/80daysya6.jpg
Blue Monkey Sep 28, 2008, 08:26 AM Here's a taste: Around the world in 80 Days
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/2826/80daysya6.jpg
With a little more contrast from the bg it will be excellent.
I'm really digging these Wonder Splashes. These and the previous two are just inspired.Thank you. It's important to remember that these are just rectified readymades (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Readymades_of_Marcel_Duchamp). A very few, like the MFO, rise to the level of montage.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/8211/dada2bn2.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LHOOQ)
Balthasar Sep 28, 2008, 09:44 AM How's This:
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2717/80dayspy8.jpg
Blue Monkey Sep 28, 2008, 01:05 PM I like the coloration on the first better; it just needs to be lighter vs. the green bg.
AndrewG Sep 29, 2008, 01:55 PM Reminds me of the trophy for the Great Automobile Race of 1908...an around-the-world auto race funded by the New York Times and Le Matin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1908_New_York_to_Paris_Race
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1076/1199845901_d6a2dafea4.jpg?v=0
The trophy is said to be the largest ever made for a sporting event. Solid marble, too!
Blue Monkey Oct 01, 2008, 09:19 PM Here are some potentialities for Torchwood. These are all 256 colors, but not yet truly indexed. Several views of Torchwood Estate itself: with & without Dr. W- ; T. E. within the local countryside, guarding the passage between light & dark. & finally, a proto-X-files exploration by two gentlemen.
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http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/854/twpreviewcf5.th.jpg (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=twpreviewcf5.jpg)
Work progresses on the LFO. I need to take these little breaks from working on layering together 6+ images & work on something simpler.
Balthasar Oct 02, 2008, 05:18 AM I like the very first on the left, although I'm also partial to everything in the middle row. I was considering that scene from "The Illusionist" for Wireless Transmission once as, in the movie, it was a demonstration of just that idea by Tesla. Great Images.
KingArthur Oct 02, 2008, 05:50 AM I like the sepia tones of B or any of the proto-x files ones off the bottom row.
Balthasar: just to clarify. Is wireless transmission the transmission of "power" or strictly communications i.e. radio?
Balthasar Oct 02, 2008, 07:08 AM Depends whether you're talking to Edison or Tesla. Tesla believed that electric power lines were unnecessary and would have rather "beamed" electricity to the masses. That's what the Tower was for, and what Tesla was demonstrating in that scene. We know now that such a thing could easily be done with microwaves, and some people have even suggested beaming electricity directly from solar panels in space. Every radio signal, in fact, contains a "carrier wave" of pure electric power to extend its transmission radius. Build the right kind of collector, and you could probably run your home on just the ambient electricity in the air these days. (If you don't mind extremely angry neighbors, as such a thing would probably interfere with every TV in the neighborhood) In the end, it's probably better that we didn't go with "broadcast" electric transmission. I saw a report once that suggested that two thirds of those who have reported alien abductions also live near high tension power lines. And we've all heard about cellphones frying brain cells.....
To answer the question you are probably actually asking, I'd think that in this game it could be either, as Tesla has a significant presence in the Steampunk world.
KingArthur Oct 02, 2008, 08:06 AM Thanks Balthasar. I was trying to remember what we had put down on the spreadsheet (I'm just dipping in and out of here while at work). For example, what building and unit prereqs. do we have for our Wireless Transmission. The Tesla stuff sounds jolly interesting if we can fit something in.
Balthasar Oct 02, 2008, 08:42 AM Ah, I remember now why I didn't use that image. The tech is Wireless Telegraphy, i.e., radio. The Wardenclyffe Tower Wonder is available three techs earlier with Electric Power, so we have already incorporated the Tesla vision....damned smart of us.
Blue Monkey Oct 02, 2008, 11:32 AM I like the very first on the left, although I'm also partial to everything in the middle row. I like the sepia tones of B or any of the proto-x files ones off the bottom row. Unless the two of you have some sub rosa method to settle on an image (Marquess of Queensberry?), since KingArthur seems to prefer sepia in all his choices & Balthasar Torchwood Estate itself perhaps the best choice is B?
I was considering that scene from "The Illusionist" for Wireless Transmission once as, in the movie, it was a demonstration of just that idea by Tesla.I enjoyed the visuals of the filmed "Prestige" greatly, although the novel is far creepier & steampunkish in the Gibson/Sterling PoMo manner. "The Illusionist" was also very enjoyable, especially because of the way they gave it a 19th C. look & feel, even though it lacked any overt SP elements. It did include a practical application of the "Smoke & Mirrors" wonder.
;)
Balthasar: just to clarify. Is wireless transmission the transmission of "power" or strictly communications i.e. radio? The tech is Wireless Telegraphy, i.e., radio.
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http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/706/spcellphonefv5.th.jpg (http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spcellphonefv5.jpg)
The image is far too poor to make an image from. He's got a transceiver in his pocket connected by cable to the antenna/umbrella. Perhaps someone could make a suitable icon?
Build the right kind of collector, and you could probably run your home on just the ambient electricity in the air these days. A description of a 1000 foot loop antenna array (built by Art Bell) that gathers 400 volts from ??? (http://www.ccrane.com/library/art-bell.11.19.02.aspx), Another photo (http://www.smeter.net/w6obb/antenna-farm.php) with description of the array, Closeups (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page158.html) of an individual antenna & the lines passing above a more standard antenna, a brief transcript of his radio talk show discussion (http://artbellradioshow.click11.com/Art_Bell_Describes_Voltage_Generated_By_His_Loop_A ntenna,_September_13,_2003) thereof, and a short technical description of the effect (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page1220.html), quoting Tesla, from his talk show's web site.
Balthasar Oct 02, 2008, 03:51 PM Unless the two of you have some sub rosa method to settle on an image (Marquess of Queensberry?), since KingArthur seems to prefer sepia in all his choices & Balthasar Torchwood Estate itself perhaps the best choice is B?
Well, okay, B then. But I still like the colors of A better. More contrast.
I enjoyed the visuals of the filmed "Prestige" greatly..."The Illusionist" was also very enjoyable...
For some reason I always get them confused with each other.
Thanks to the link to Art Bell's array. I hope it inspires somebody. Like Einstein's refrigerator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_refrigerator) (which doesn't use electricity or freon), designs making use of the Tesla effect may belong more to the future than to the past.
Blue Monkey Oct 02, 2008, 04:02 PM Well, okay, B then. But I still like the colors of A better. More contrast.I'll play a bit with B & see if I can get better contrast.
Balthasar Oct 03, 2008, 07:00 AM Finally, a reworked AW80 wonder icon.
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4930/80daysut7.jpg
Sorry this took so long, had other things to attend to.
Also, re-indexed the Opium small.pcx file:
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This has been repaired in the Steampunk Buildings Download.
KingArthur Oct 03, 2008, 08:38 AM Looks great Balthasar!
OT: Why not enter a unit idea for Utahjazz's Halloween competition.
I'm thinking: Jack the Ripper or Frankenstein's Monster. I've asked for Jekyll/Hyde as a long shot.
Balthasar Oct 03, 2008, 05:05 PM Frankenstein's monster would probably have the best shot, if I read Utahjazz's prologue correctly. I was also thinking that a Vampire/Vampiress might have a chance - though there's already a vampire unit, there are other ways to do it, and of course there is no female vampire unit available.
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P.S. Just for an experiment, I substituted the Fell Bat Run animation in a Dracula unit, and it works pretty well. Kind of fun to see the Bat suddenly fly away. I'd like to try the same thing with Jeckyll/Hyde and the Invisible man, if I can find the right units to modify (and Utahjazz doesn't make either of them).
Blue Monkey Oct 08, 2008, 06:17 PM for Torchwood I'm doing some final palette work on A, B (with increased contrast), and I (the fogginess reminds me of the early "medium" photos). I'll post the three as a set.
As to the LFO, here's a "rough" of its current state - shown mostly for comments as to composition. This is not the final assembly. I'm still working on individual elements. Then there's a lot of contrast work to do, clouds to add to earth, stars as well, ...
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/2541/trialpostzc9.png
Balthasar Oct 09, 2008, 04:50 AM The set up of the elements is fine, except that I might drop the earth closer to the horizon. I would put a little less contrast on the moonscape, and some refraction on the helmet glass. It might help to "paint" in the space in the background, to give it an "illustration" look. I have some alternative earths for you to peruse:
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I know it's a WIP, but I can't help offering my opinion when it's solicited. It looks good.
Blue Monkey Oct 09, 2008, 10:04 AM I know it's a WIP, but I can't help offering my opinion when it's solicited. It looks good.Hey, that's why I posted it.
The set up of the elements is fine, except that I might drop the earth closer to the horizon.I'll try that. I'm looking for a subliminal "Earth dominant" message.
I would put a little less contrast on the moonscapeI'm still working on the individual elements. The moonscape is going to be greyed out relative to the figures. The LFO building is probably going to be lightened to be a little more prominent.
and some refraction on the helmet glass.I'm trying to avoid anything too realistic - aiming for a cross of the look of the "London Illustrated News" & an Ernst/Gilliam montage.
It might help to "paint" in the space in the background, to give it an "illustration" look.Imageshack is frustrating me this morning. I want to post an image to show the kind of starscape that will be included. It's not at all going to be a blank background.
I have some alternative earths for you to peruseWhat's posted is very much an early prototype. I want a view with Europe looming large. The ultimate version will have a view with Vickie's house much more prominent (;)) & have a few clouds thrown in.
Blue Monkey Oct 09, 2008, 02:22 PM ImageShack finally decided to be cooperative. Here's a source for the kind of sky I'll be incorporating:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/1072/skylargenx0.png
Blue Monkey Oct 10, 2008, 06:28 PM Three versions of the Torchwood Wonder (splash):
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http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3766/torchwoodpreviewit4.th.png (http://img115.imageshack.us/my.php?image=torchwoodpreviewit4.png)
download page (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=10900)
Balthasar Oct 11, 2008, 06:34 AM I've decided that I like the sepia building best after all.
Blue Monkey Oct 11, 2008, 08:00 AM I've decided that I like the sepia building best after all.I took your advice & widened the contrast. That probably helped.
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