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Shattered
Mar 21, 2008, 03:09 PM
The Coalition.

I am Shattered, Enlightened One of the Philosophers,I have been tasked with forming a basis on which we may spread our Knowledge wide and far. I have worked tirelessly with my brothers on an idea to unite our tribe and seek a brighter tommorow. I ventured to the Church Of Giruvegan, seeking consul. I came across two important people, an Atlantean leader, and a Warlord ambassador. Inviting both the Atlantian leader, and the Warlord ambassador into our hall, we have negotiated a way of governance acceptable to all our interests. We shall unite under one flag, bringing our different Ways of living together, to lead our tribe across the plains, and to a better existance.
We have accepted an alliance with both the Warlords, and the Atlanteans. The provisions of the alliance are as follows.

We have granted the Atlanteans the right to control all religious aspects of our government. They have the right to spread religion and faith throughout the lands. They will also recieve a city to govern.

We have granted the Warlords the right to control our offensive military armies.They will also be granted the right to control exploratory forces. The warlords will be given their own city to govern.

We have chosen Alexander to lead us through the ages. His aggressiveness shall aid us in times of glory, and his logic shall carry us to the highest echelons of power.

(OOC:Aggressive: Free Combat I promotion of melee and gunpowder units. Double production speed of Barracks and Drydock. Philosophical: Great People birth rate increased 100 percent. Double production speed of University.)

Philosophers of the Legion Platform
Fellow citizens, never in the history of democracy games has there being a faction like The Philosophers of Legion. We are a well rounded faction that will appeal to many. We will succeed, because not only do we represent the wants of our faction, but the wants and needs of our nation. We welcome the opinions and concerns of all. From blood thirsty mercenaries to the most high priest, everyone will have their moment, their time. We plan frequent polls and threads to discuss national interests.

Our main goals as the prime faction is to establish a well placed capital that well be developed to help start at least one or two more cities in our term. We plan on at least having one scout exploring our surroundings. We also want found a religion that we can rename and appropriate to the Church of Giruvegan. We want to build an army big enough to fulfill simple enough functions such as escorting settlers or guarding cities and workers as well as provide for a common defense. Everything we do, we do to provide a good, solid foundation for our civilization.

Faction Government
The head of our faction is the Enlightened One. Currently that is our creator Shattered. He makes all the final calls, and delegates tasks and decisions among our faction. He also decides what wonders we build. Under him we have several departments we call Ways. Each Way is lead by a leader appointed by the Enlightened One.

The Way of the People: Led by Ballazic. The Follower of the Way of the People controls capital city production, workers, city placement, and tile usage.

The Way of the Pure Order: Led by Rex. The Follower of the Way of Pure Order determines our faction laws and our national laws when we are in power.

The Way of the Fist: Led by Warlord Faction. The Follower of the Way of the Fist controls offensive military operations (not foreign policy) and exploration. The Follower is also in charge of a city intended for military production.

The Way of the Shield: Led by Churchill. The Follower of the Way of the Shield is in charge of our military defense, such as defense of our cities and non-military units (workers, great people, settlers, etc.).

The Way of the Zodiark: Led by Church of Giruvegan: The Follower of the Way of the Zodiark is in charge of the religious aspects of our nation. This Follower controls missionaries, and Great Prophets. This Way also controls cultural and religious expansion .

Way of the Spoken Word: Led by Blastoid. The Follower of the Way of the Spoken Word is in charge of foreign diplomacy and espionage. This includes deals and trades with foreign entities. This Follower is also in charge of inter-faction diplomacy.

Turn Play
We plan on having at least 10 turns done a week. We want to play at least 50 turns during the first term.

We as a faction want our nation to be the most glorious. Only together can we do that. Let us unite. Let us succeed.

Written by Ballazic. Edited by Lostcause and Shattered


The Chamber of the Triad
The Triad will consist of NZL, Strider, and Shattered, the leaders of the coalition factions. They shall be in charge of all intra-faction affairs. Other powers of this group are still in debate and will be posted shortly.

Proposed Land Law
Giruvegan Land Law

Philosophers of Legion Faction:

Philosophers of Legion has the ownership of all land surrounding the capital,
and the Enlightened One, Shattered, would own the capital itself. Each of the other
members of the Legion Faction (16 members) will be given one tile each in the area surrounding
the capital.

Atlantis Faction:

The Atlantis Faction will have the right of control over the Religious City, the right to appoint their governor by
local election/appointment and the right to distribute land freely within the city limits (Religious city + 16
surrounding tiles. The location of that city will be decided by the Atlantis Faction.


Warlords Faction:

The Warlords Faction will have the right of control over the Soldiers City, the right to appoint their governor by
local election/appointment and the right to distribute land freely within the city limits (Soldiers City + 16
surrounding tiles. The location of that city will be decided by the Warlords Faction.


Other Factions and Independents:

Independents first, and secondarily members of other factions can apply for land grants outside the three cities
territorial limits (city + 16 tileS) planned by the Enlightened one.
However, should a fourth faction pledge allegiance to the Church of Giruvegan,
approved by the Zodiak of Giruvegan and the Grand Mystic of Atlantis (Strider), the Enlightened One (Shattered)
and the Warlord (NZL), they would be given the fourth city with negotiated provisions.



All Lands (tiles) would then be given a name by their first owner.
The names are not written in stone but cannot be changed unless ownership changes.
This means a landowner has to live with the decision he makes.
Any player that owns a territory will be given a title respective to the era.
An ancient citizen cannot hold the title of Duke, etc..
The faction leader or representative, whatever the case may be, will appoint all territorial titles within
the specified city and its territories.

Once a new city is founded the Faction Leader ruling the city will appoint
a governor to the new Province. The new city is named by the Faction Leader or whomever they appoint to name it.
The Governor will gain the new cities tile and be given a Provincial title by the Faction Leader.
The territories of the new city are then distributed by the Provincial Governor.
Titles for these territories are appointed by the governor. Governors have no say in in-game decisions of the city.

Breakdown:
Capital City-
Is owned by the Prime-Factions leader.
Is named by the Prime-Faction.
Its territories are distributed by the Prime-faction leader.
Its Territorial titles are appointed by the Prime-Faction leader.
Grants its owner the Supreme Title

City-
Is owned by its Governor, who is appointed by the Prime-Faction Leader.
Is named by the Prime-faction or whomever they appoint to name it.
Its territories are distributed by the Governor.
Its Territorial titles are appointed by the Governor.
Grants its owner (1) Provincial title.
Territory w/ Resource-
Gives owner the ability to start a trading guild.
Grants its owner (1) Territorial title.
If the territory is outside of any cities usable tile radius the Prime-Faction leader will distribute it.

Territory-
Grants its owner (1) Territorial title.

Titles-
Territorial- Titles given to Citizens when they are granted a territory.

Provincial- Titles are only given to Governors.

Supreme- Title reserved for the leader of the Prime-Faction.

A few rules:[LIST]
The Prime-Faction leader and governors may distribute (1) territory to themselves per week.
You must be a citizen of the Dgame to own land but you do not have to belong to a faction.
There are no limits to the number of territories a Citizen may own.
The tiles outside of a cities usable territories hold no value and cannot be distributed unless they contain a resource.
No Faction or its leader are bound to distribute territories. If they so choose they can strip all ownership for their factions stay in power.
A citizen can not be given more than (1) territory per week.
Water tiles cannot be distributed unless they contain a resource.


Sequence of Building Cities under Giruvegan Rule by Philosophers Legion is determined by the basic civilization we
get, 50 % for each outcome:

Atlantis 2nd city civs, Warlords 3rd city civs :

Byzantium
Holy Roman Empire
Arabia
India
Spain
Korea
Mali
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
England
Ottomans
France
Germany
America
Ethiopia
Japan



Warlords 2nd city civs, Atlantis 3rd city civs :

Maya
Aztecs
Inca
Celtia
Vikings
Zululand
Mongolia
Rome
Egypt
Greece
Persia
China
Carthage
Babylon
Khmer
Native America
Sumeria

Written by Civius and Provolution


This is our platform, as well as our claim to run in the election. The factions underneath Philosopher rule will post their own platforms on their powers. Sorry about this taking so long. It took alot of organization to get this all prepared. Glory to the Philosophers!

[EDIT] I would also ask for the endorsements of both Strider and NZL, to publicly cement the coalition. Also, this is all flexible, as we do not trap ourselves in a system. Changes can be made, so we shall keep you all updated.

Shattered
Mar 21, 2008, 03:09 PM
Reserved #1

Shattered
Mar 21, 2008, 03:10 PM
Reserved #2

Shattered
Mar 21, 2008, 03:10 PM
Reserved #3

Provolution
Mar 21, 2008, 03:20 PM
Warlord Faction hereby endorses the Coalition, and I expect Warlord NZL will make a statement within this day.

Strider
Mar 21, 2008, 06:53 PM
As Grand Mystic of Atlantis and Zodiark of the Church I approve this triad.

Ballazic
Mar 23, 2008, 08:45 PM
I Ballazic Follower of the Way of the People, salute all you fellow triad members

NZL
Mar 25, 2008, 04:55 AM
I, NZL, Leader of the Warlord faction accept to be the Grand Marshall of the offensive branch of the Enlightened Army and Governor of the City of the Fist.
We will clear the path of all enemies and expand our empire so our fellow Triad Members can spread our Wisdom and Religion throughout the known world without being exposed to any risks.

NZL
Mar 26, 2008, 08:58 AM
As Leader of the Warlords Faction and Future Governor of the [to be named if elected] Military City, I will depend on our scouts to find a suitable, production oriented city with hills, forest and farms to uphold population and squeeze out an engineer or two later on. Military always costs more than it earns, so will it be in this DGame and we will not build any cottages. If we found the 2nd city, we will produce a barracks first to deliver quality units from the start. If we found the 3rd city, some preliminary 'safety' units will be built prior to barracks. One worker will be produced as well, unless we receive one from another city. Happiness and Health will be kept in check to let our city grow Later on, we will shift our city's building priority between military output and espionage output, favouring military.
We will most likely not build wonders in the military city during the first term, unless we agree within the Triad chambers.
We will urge our Triad Friends to connect our city to Bronze and later on Iron to give us the needed resources for early military domination.

Ballazic
Mar 26, 2008, 12:15 PM
And I will make sure you get copper and iron asap

Churchill 25
Mar 27, 2008, 07:45 PM
Hey fellow Triad members. I am Churchill 25, follower of the Way of the sheild.
Hopefully, united we can go far.

pat123
Mar 27, 2008, 07:50 PM
Hey Churchill, did you go vote in the Prime Faction Election?

Churchill 25
Mar 27, 2008, 08:50 PM
Just voted, We have 8 votes, yes

Ballazic
Mar 27, 2008, 10:16 PM
Everyone Vote.


:)

AljayBoy
Mar 28, 2008, 08:12 AM
Hello all, I have voted and it seems we are looking promising, Timus: 4; Ourselves, Triads: 16 and the Tribals: 6.

civplayah
Mar 30, 2008, 06:40 PM
Team, congrats! WE ARE PRIME FACTION!:king::king::king:

pat123
Mar 30, 2008, 07:33 PM
We will the first turn be played?

Provolution
Mar 30, 2008, 07:44 PM
I think we will make this an official event (chat and chatlogged), so everyone is reassured we are not having any fixed restarts with Alexander.

pat123
Mar 30, 2008, 07:47 PM
That's all well and good, but give me a date! Pretty please? I don't even need you to do anything, I just want to see the map. :D
Plus I don't believe I will be able to participate in the chat anyway.

Provolution
Mar 30, 2008, 07:48 PM
Shattered, Strider and NZL will make this event, we just need to wait.

Lord Civius
Apr 01, 2008, 01:38 AM
I have formatted the proposed land law. I have also respectfully edited some material and it is written in italic. Please feel free to comment on this draft.

Giruvegan Land Law

I. Pledged Land Grants

(a)Philosophers of Legion Faction: Capital City

Philosophers of Legion has the ownership of all land surrounding the capital,
and the Enlightened One, Shattered, would own the capital itself. Each of the other
members of the Legion Faction (16 members) will be given one tile each in the area surrounding
the capital.

(b)Protectors of Faith: Religious City

The Protectors of Faith Faction will have the right of control over the Religious City, the right to appoint their governor by
local election/appointment and the right to distribute land freely within the city limits (Religious city + 16
surrounding tiles. The location of that city will be decided by the Atlantis Faction.


(c)Warlords Faction: Military City

The Warlords Faction will have the right of control over the Soldiers City, the right to appoint their governor by
local election/appointment and the right to distribute land freely within the city limits (Soldiers City + 16
surrounding tiles. The location of that city will be decided by the Warlords Faction.

II. Future land Grants

(a) Other Faction members and Independents:

Independents first, and secondarily members of other factions can apply for land grants outside the three cities
territorial limits (city + 16 tileS) planned by the Enlightened one.

(b) Other Factions:

Should further factions pledge allegiance to the Church of Giruvegan,
approved by the Zodiak of Giruvegan (Strider), the Grand Mystic of Protector of Faith (AluminumKnight), the Enlightened One (Shattered)
and the Warlord (NZL), they would be given a city with negotiated provisions.

III. Land Rights


(a)Once a new city is founded the Faction Leader ruling the city will appoint a governor to the new Province.

(b)New cities are named by the Faction Leader or whomever they appoint to name it.

(c)New Cities Governors gain the cities tile and are given a Provincial title by the Faction Leader.

(d)new city lands are distributed by the Provincial Governor.

(e)Any player that is granted land will be given a title, by the cities governor. The title must be respective to the era. An ancient citizen cannot hold the title of Duke, etc..

(f)All Lands (tiles) will be named by their first owner. The names are written in stone and cannot be changed. A landowner must live with the decision he makes, unless permission is granted from the Zodiak of Giruvegan.

IV. Land Ownership Breakdown


(a)Capital City-
Is owned by the Philosophers of Legion Faction.
Is named by the Philosophers of Legion Faction.
Its territories are distributed the Enlightened One, Shattered.
Its Territorial titles are appointed by the Enlightened One, Shattered
Grants its owner the Supreme Title

(b)New Cities-
Are owned by their Governor, who is appointed by the Faction that owns the city.
Are named by the owner faction or whomever they appoint to name it.
Territories are distributed by their Governor.
Territorial titles are appointed by their Governor.
Grant their Governor (1) Provincial title.

(c)Territory w/ Resource-
Gives owner the ability to start a trading guild.
Grants its owner (1) Territorial title.
If the territory is outside of any cities usable tile radius the Prime-Faction leader will distribute it.

(d)Territory-
Grants its owner (1) Territorial title.

V. Rules

(a)Titles-
Territorial- Titles given to Citizens when they are granted a territory.
Provincial- Titles are only given to Governors.
Supreme- Title reserved for the leader of the Prime-Faction.

(b)The Prime-Faction leader and governors may distribute (1) territory to themselves per week.

(c)You must be a citizen of the Dgame to own land but you do not have to belong to a faction.

(d)There are no limits to the number of territories a Citizen may own.

(e)The tiles outside of a cities usable territories hold no value and cannot be distributed unless they contain a resource.

(f)No Faction or its leader are bound to distribute territories. If they so choose they can strip all ownership for their factions stay in power.

(g)A citizen can not be given more than (1) territory per week.

(h)Water tiles cannot be distributed unless they contain a resource.

2nd City Challenge

Sequence of Building Cities under Giruvegan Rule by Philosophers Legion is determined by the basic civilization we
get, 50 % for each outcome:

Atlantis 2nd city civs, Warlords 3rd city civs :

Byzantium
Holy Roman Empire
Arabia
India
Spain
Korea
Mali
Netherlands
Portugal
Russia
England
Ottomans
France
Germany
America
Ethiopia
Japan



Warlords 2nd city civs, Atlantis 3rd city civs :

Maya
Aztecs
Inca
Celtia
Vikings
Zululand
Mongolia
Rome
Egypt
Greece
Persia
China
Carthage
Babylon
Khmer
Native America
Sumeria

NZL
Apr 01, 2008, 02:25 AM
Great work Lord Civius. Just one remark.
AluminumKnight is taking over from Strider and he renamed the Atlantis faction to Protectors of Faith

Lord Civius
Apr 01, 2008, 09:04 AM
Edited to adjust for AK's recent promotion. Congrats :goodjob:

rspeer
Apr 01, 2008, 09:05 PM
I'm confused about something in your platform. You say that you'll distribute 16 tiles of land around every city. Which 16? There are 20 tiles in the "fat cross".

Provolution
Apr 01, 2008, 09:13 PM
We know its 20, but 4 is reserved for bad tiles or national reserve, possibly kings lands.

rspeer
Apr 02, 2008, 09:08 PM
Makes sense. One more clarification: what if there are fewer than 16 good tiles? Such as a city with 5 or more tiles of resource-less water? Are such cities allowed to be built?

NZL
Apr 03, 2008, 12:06 AM
Allowed yes, recommended no!

Joe Harker
Apr 03, 2008, 02:57 AM
How are you going to pick people to play the save? :)

Shattered
Apr 03, 2008, 03:29 AM
Any small turnplays (1-3 turns) will be played by me. The first major session shall also be done by me. The second, by AlKnight. The third by NZL. The fourth turnplay shall be under the control of an independant. I shall hand out 5-6 nominations to people with outstanding roleplaying skills and/or that have contributed much to the game. These people will go under a public vote, and whoever wins, plays the save. I believe this is fair to both our Triad and the people of our nation.

Joe Harker
Apr 03, 2008, 03:34 AM
So if you are not a huge roleplayer then you can't be selected, or unlikely to?

It's just i am not very good at the roleplaying thing yet would like to be at least given the chance to offer to play the save

Shattered
Apr 03, 2008, 03:46 AM
Roleplaying is just one facet of it. If you contribute to the demo-game in the form of workable strategy and awesome ideas, you will have a much a right for nomination as the hardcore RP's.

I guess in my above statement I should of said " to people with outstanding roleplaying skills and/or that have contributed much to the game" [EDIT] It does now :D

Provolution
Apr 03, 2008, 05:26 AM
Well, I have not been allowed to play a save for ages, due to some unofficial quarantine by a select group within the former DP institute, and I am not complaining. I am also happy that we got a new player to play the save from the Warlords Faction, and that I did not seek to claim that for myself, as other veterans could have done.

The model Shattered presented is quite fair, as all the elected leaders of the factions (three) and then a fourth player coming from outside of the Triad (to be voted for in an open, private poll) are to play the save. All these have been voted in for several reasons, 3/4 of them for winning Prime Faction and 1/4 based on merit and vote for a non-faction member by the end of the term, so a player outside the Triad can earn respect and get to play the session.

This will be a different system from before, where a group of acquaintances nominated each other and left someone on the outside. All elections are more or less fair and unfair, depending on what outcome you prefer. Certainly, losing an election means you lost it, and of course, if you clamor for a second chance, you have at least a second chance here, something the DP institute and the allegedly previous democratic systems did not provide. So if you contribute to the game, not running a destructive line, some voters may even reward you with a playsession and then some, even being outside the faction.

I would also find it unfair, that a casual player with no actual interest in the city they are about to found, should do that ahead of the many engaged and interested faction players that will participate in various subgames and city development discussions around their home city. For a casual player that like to meddle into another clans city, it may seem to be unfair, but for those that negotiated the faction cities system, it is very fair. I also think that organization of new players and provide some game content is vital, much more vital than the juggling of perceived rights and the direction of blame. The election outcome is evident of all this.

NZL
Apr 03, 2008, 06:11 AM
Yet, i hereby delegate Provolution to play the 3rd turn since he's our Faction's Master of the Hunt and in turn 3, nothing needs to be done except exploring.
I already discussed with Provolution some basic exploration path..
Also, i haven't bothered installing the HOF mod yet ;) but i will once screenshots don't suffice anymore to keep up with the gameplay..

Provolution
Apr 03, 2008, 06:13 AM
Oh, NZL, it is the third session (2,5 weeks from now), not turn, which means when we found the third city. I hope you redecide, since that is a good session to play.

NZL
Apr 03, 2008, 07:50 AM
Hmm, yea sorry for my DemoGame noobness.
In that case i reconsider :)

AluminumKnight
Apr 03, 2008, 08:04 AM
I get to play? Cool! :king:

Anyway Shattered, how are you dividing the sessions? Or is that up in the air still?

Seidrik_The_Gray
Apr 03, 2008, 08:05 AM
Perhaps with some additional flexibility, Provo could still control the Warband via his Warband RP thread as a scout, no?

Provolution
Apr 03, 2008, 08:28 AM
The plan is to have the Warband to discuss where to go and quite possibly vote over it, but all must be done in convincing roleplay. And remember, if we die due to barbarians or wild animals, we are all dead, and everyone needs to write their deaths in that final battle.

However, the Triad Leaders (Shattered, NZL and AluKnight) can give us initial orders before sunday. The members of the Warband are free to discuss tactical directions of the warband in chat (as long as it follows the main orders). We will post the enactment of the warband from chat in this forum, for all to read. Building up a positive narrative to look back to, is part of the forum/chat/gameplay integration of experiences.

Also, if the Warband falls in battle before we become a future garrison, I will also end my career as "Master of the Hunt", simply because I am dead. :)

Seidrik_The_Gray
Apr 03, 2008, 08:30 AM
I will be as proud of writing of our glorius demise as I will be honored as a member of the first great warband, may we carve our names into the rocks, trees, and the flesh of the barbarian savages!

Provolution
Apr 03, 2008, 08:43 AM
I get to play? Cool! :king:

Anyway Shattered, how are you dividing the sessions? Or is that up in the air still?

You are number two, Shattered is on sunday.

AluminumKnight
Apr 03, 2008, 09:17 AM
Eh, sorry, I wasn't clear at all with my question. I meant how long is each session?

Provolution
Apr 03, 2008, 09:21 AM
How many turns or hours do you mean?

Joe Harker
Apr 03, 2008, 10:09 AM
@ ALK, generally about 10 turns, normally :)

Methos
Apr 03, 2008, 11:06 AM
I will be as proud of writing of our glorius demise...

Timus's preference is their demise. ;)