Do you think that I should attack immediatly on a tiny map on Monarch level? Say the enemy capitol is 2 squares away from yours after the first cultural expansion.

I personnally think that it works well enough. Once when I was the romans, I captured Thebe with my first warrior and put the egyptiens out of the game only a few turns after the game had started.

Yeah sure why not. I makes it a lot easier to claim land.

Probably yes, but I'd have to know what civ you're playing, what neighbors we're talking about, etc.

Lets say your playing the greeks. Surronded by the english, zulu and the persians. The zulus are the closest and they have 1 warrior on Zimbabwe and a unprotected settler somewhere off. The english have one spearman, and probably a warrior and an archer exploring. The persians have two cities with spearman on them (not sure how many dont have an embassy).

There are still some variables, such as tech levels and resources, to consider. You've said that the Zulu are the closest, but they can be tough. If they get to bronze working by the time you're ready to attack, they'll have impi. Those can be problematic, and could trigger a Golden Age for them. The English do not start with warrior code or bronze working, but according to your description, they've got both. That opens up the possibility that they'll trade them to Shaka. The Persians have BW and you'll have to consider the possibility that they'll get IW. If that happens, you'll have to face immortals. If you're playing the Greeks, you've got as tough a defender as you'll find in the Ancient Age (if you have BW), but it is a defensive unit. It attacks no better than a warrior, so you'll need some good attackers. What units can you build? What do you know and what resources do you have? How far away is the enemy? Can you post a screenshot?

I would do it but I have never played that level ...but it sure would be tempting.

I remember the Civ I days when you prayed that no one showed up while you were building that first warrior. :sad:

If you're playing the Greeks, you've got as tough a defender as you'll find in the Ancient Age (if you have BW)

Greece starts with BW.

I just recently started playing again. My first game back, I played China on a small scenario that came with C3C. I used a archer rush and destroyed 2 civs off the bat and captured the capital of another.

Greece starts with BW.
D'oh! :wallbash:

And here I was just starting to sound like I know what I'm talking about. :blush: Thanks for the correction.

I checked my game and the zulu, persians, and british all have right of passage. They have the same techs as me (alphabet, Bw, wheel, iron w, cermonial burial, nut i have horse back riding more then them.) I have three cities, horses beside thermopylae. The other nations all have three cities. I have 4 horses beside persia and they are in range of pasargade. My exploring warrior (conscript) is following a zulu settler. I have three archers, 1 hoplite close to london. London is the only city to have iron in its proximty altought it is not connected.

Sounds like it's pretty crowded, so you might not have much choice but to attack. As you don't have Writing, you can't have embassies. That means that you can't make alliances. Four horses, 3 archers and 1 hoplite is enough to start a war, but it's not exactly what you'd call overwhelming force. I'd gather them into one stack and pick one enemy to destroy.

D'oh! :wallbash:

And here I was just starting to sound like I know what I'm talking about. :blush: Thanks for the correction.

I'm sure you just overlooked it. :)

I presently declared war on the Zulus. Caputred there settler and put my hoplite/archer army 1 square away from zimbabwe. In exchange for peace I got Hlobane, 4gpt, writing, masonry. I then put an embassy in persia and I am planning to invade britain with their help.

I presently declared war on the Zulus. Caputred there settler and put my hoplite/archer army 1 square away from zimbabwe. In exchange for peace I got Hlobane, 4gpt, writing, masonry. I then put an embassy in persia and I am planning to invade britain with their help.

WTG!!!

I love it when a plan comes together:goodjob:

I Have know declared war on the english, with the prsians helping. Helping to much as matter of fact as they captured london and the iron near it. So before they statred producing immortals, I attcaked them and captured london. My offensive power got shattered by persians and british altougth i know have a cordon of hoplites defnding london(6) while my workers connect the iron, I have managed to get a leader after a hoplite was attacked multiple times.

By the way,anyone knows how to post screen shots?

the forum's easy upload system is disabled for undetermined timespan, but you can still attach files to individual posts.

When in the "Reply to Topic" page scroll down a bit, and you'll see a "Attach Files" option.
Its usage is pretty straightforward.

You can also post them by: (1) hitting Print Screen; (2) pasting the image into an image program (I use MS-Paint); then (3) hosting the images on ImageShack or Photobucket, and then (4) using image tags to put them in the post.

I just his this very scenario and I took it to mean that I should put all those war academy articles into practice. It worked but I admit it was at Regent level.

I do realize that level matters in this discussion but I think it is more about attitude. If you can mount a good offense, you should do it. My game was over in the BC years.

. . . . My game was over in the BC years.
darski, I'd say that any time a paragraph about civ ends like this, you should consider moving up. :yup: Look out Monarch, here she comes!

darski, I'd say that any time a paragraph about civ ends like this, you should consider moving up. :yup: Look out Monarch, here she comes!

Did I forget to mention the two games I didn't even start (location, location, location) and the one I quit?

I am such a Civ Wuss. This one just demanded a quick and dirty war campaign.

If you can beat the game by 130 BC (& I've seen the screenshot), you can beat it from less generous starts. ;) I don't think it'll be long before you're ready to tackle Monarch.

We shall see what we shall see.

My standard is that I have to be able to win with all the Civs at a given level before I move up... well all except England :sad:

I want to try Japan next on Regent to see how that goes.

Did I forget to mention the two games I didn't even start (location, location, location) and the one I quit?

Doesn't everyone roll a bunch of starts before finding one they like?

Doesn't everyone roll a bunch of starts before finding one they like?

Personally, I never rerolled my start. I probably would if I started surrounded by mountains, but otherwise I enjoy doing what I can from a random start on a random map with a random civ :).

Personally, I never rerolled my start. I probably would if I started surrounded by mountains, but otherwise I enjoy doing what I can from a random start on a random map with a random civ :).

I figure that if I can ever do that it will be my cue to try Deity!:lol::lol::lol:

Personally, I've never rerolled my start.

Me either, but I enjoy a relaxing Regent more often than not. :)

I guess it's a better strategy than being extremely tiny on an aggressive map.

:p

Sorry for hijacking but I just had to write this. Recently I made a map with only one island on it and three civs. It was going well, and I had built a lot of wonders in my capital city. Then all of the sudden the volcano erupts and destroys my capital together with a whole bunch of units. Oh noes! And I had just finished the Great Wall there in the previous turn. Anyway, then I tried to conquer Mongolia. I destroyed their second city but I couldn't capture Karakorum. No matter how massive amounts of units I built (I even had Statue of Zeus and Knight's Templar), they always had enough spearmen to fight me off.

I guess it's a better strategy than being extremely tiny on an aggressive map.

:p

Good one!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: