View Full Version : CivRev, One More Round, and the Hardcore Civver


AbbieRevo
Mar 31, 2008, 08:25 PM
So, it seems that many of the so-called "hardcore" civ players here feel like this game is a sell-out of the franchise. Many seem to think that the stripping down of the game to its essentials, and the effort shorten game times to 3-4 hours will result in a net loss of fun.

Obviously, these folks have neglected to appreciate the most important implications of this new entry in the Civ franchise: mobility.

While some of you may haul your laptop everywhere, or have some ungodly powerful pocket pc that runs civ4 (i'm pretty sure this doesn't exist i'm just covering all my bases) most of you can only enjoy civilization at home. As of June 5 this will no longer be the case. Anyone who owns a Nintendo DS will be able to play Civ anywhere .

I believe that this, in addition to the much shorter game times will cause the well known "One-More-Turn" Syndrome to develop into the much more deadly "One-More-Round" Syndrome, in which the addicted gamer will feel compelled to play game after game of civ with no end in sight.

I'm looking forward to it.

Any thoughts?

King.Bahamot
Apr 01, 2008, 01:26 AM
haha, Im already planning the first few rounds :king:

Magwill
Apr 01, 2008, 04:40 AM
I don't have a DS myself but obviously its a great fact that you can play civ on it. Just want to add that I think that taking Civ down to the essentials will increase the net fun for more people than it will decrease the net fun for.

Schuesseled
Apr 01, 2008, 06:14 AM
personally i wouldn't play civ rev on the DS, graphics are far too shoddy :D, but im gonna get it for the ps3 and try out the new civ game, first got to get a HD tv and a ps3, expensive.

TyranusBonehead
Apr 01, 2008, 10:21 AM
I'll be going the DS route mainly so as to not conflict with my son's gaming interest. He has an XBox360, which I'd love to get CivRev for, but I think from a practical standpoint it'll be better for me to get the DS version. I'm looking forward to it.

Schuesseled
Apr 01, 2008, 12:27 PM
..Get both.

If you want to use the XBox jsut remind your son whos house he lives in :commerce::commerce::commerce:

AbbieRevo
Apr 01, 2008, 01:49 PM
I'll be going the DS route mainly so as to not conflict with my son's gaming interest. He has an XBox360, which I'd love to get CivRev for, but I think from a practical standpoint it'll be better for me to get the DS version. I'm looking forward to it.

I'm actually gonna Gamefly both, the DS version for myself and the Xbox version so I can play it at my friends' houses

Thrallia
Apr 01, 2008, 03:20 PM
and I'll be getting it for the 360...hopefully it will convince the heathens that I work with that Civ is a worthwhile game to play, instead of never playing anything but Halo and CoD.

Padma
Apr 01, 2008, 05:16 PM
As I've said before, CivRev on the DS = Civ anywhere! :D

Sgt Grimes
Apr 04, 2008, 06:31 AM
So, it seems that many of the so-called "hardcore" civ players here feel like this game is a sell-out of the franchise. Many seem to think that the stripping down of the game to its essentials, and the effort shorten game times to 3-4 hours will result in a net loss of fun.

Personally, I can't imagine there being much 'fun' in treating each and every turn as an exercise in number-crunching logistics! Which is pretty much what Civ becomes at hardcore level.

But hey, whatever rocks your boat, baby! ;)

big Deezy
Apr 04, 2008, 09:34 AM
As I've said before, CivRev on the DS = Civ anywhere! :D

That's what i'm talking about! Don't have to lug a laptop around.

I am very happy this is coming out and i've been playing since the OG Civ 1 came out. I'll be buy CIVREV for the 360 and DS.

CustodianV131
Apr 08, 2008, 08:21 AM
As I've said before, CivRev on the DS = Civ anywhere! :D

So looking forward to this! Civ on the move!

GeoffgoB
Apr 14, 2008, 06:14 AM
Personnally I'm very worried about this DS version, a 1 hour lunch break just isn't going to be long enough :D

As I said in one of the other threads DS + CIV + COFFEE + FRIENDS = GREAT Lunch hour

Jerrymander
Apr 18, 2008, 05:41 PM
How about DS + Beer + CivRev? hm?

Shekwan
Apr 18, 2008, 09:51 PM
I see what you mean by the mobility thing, but from my experience, I can't play a game unless I know I've got nothing else to do for a few hours and get a good round in. Also I only play marathon because I find on the faster speeds its only a few turns before I get a better unit, which annoys me. Guess thats why I'm not really looking forward to this CIV edition.

What I really like about Civ is the replaying history aspect, and any depth taken away from Civ will damage that aspect of the game. However that doesn't mean I condemn CivRev, and I'm not "harcore" ( I play on Noble, I'm not a mathematician) either. I also think console/handheld gaming doesn't really lend itself to strategy gaming.

Rub'Rum
Apr 18, 2008, 11:02 PM
I'm still very disappointed that it's not on the Wii, a console that would have been PERFECT for it considering the controller (the wii remote control). I don't have a PS3 or a XBOX 360 and I'm not that rich. We got a Wii for christmas and I was still hoping to play a good looking CivRev on it eventually. Apparently not. We also have a DS, but the DS version doesn't appeal much to me. I don't usually play games when I'm not home, so I don't use the DS much myself. I don't mind shoddy graphics too much, I started playing games in the 80s so I have seen worse, but on the screen the size of a DS's screen, I'm not sure...

Also, I can't bring myself to pay 30-40-50$ for an arse-ugly version of a game that exists in a much better looking version elsewhere. That is, the fact that the XBOX360 and PS3 versions exist already discourage me right now to shell out money to buy the DS version. I'm like that, I want everything (a pretty XBOX PS3 (OR WII!) version) or nothing at all, in this case it'll have to be nothing... Well, we'll see.

Schuesseled
Apr 19, 2008, 07:32 AM
I see what you mean by the mobility thing, but from my experience, I can't play a game unless I know I've got nothing else to do for a few hours and get a good round in. Also I only play marathon because I find on the faster speeds its only a few turns before I get a better unit, which annoys me. Guess thats why I'm not really looking forward to this CIV edition.

What I really like about Civ is the replaying history aspect, and any depth taken away from Civ will damage that aspect of the game. However that doesn't mean I condemn CivRev, and I'm not "harcore" ( I play on Noble, I'm not a mathematician) either. I also think console/handheld gaming doesn't really lend itself to strategy gaming.

your gonna want to play as the aztecs then (at least i think it was aztecs) there units get auto promoted for free when you research a new unit, so you don't have to worry7 about it.

Shekwan
Apr 19, 2008, 06:25 PM
your gonna want to play as the aztecs then (at least i think it was aztecs) there units get auto promoted for free when you research a new unit, so you don't have to worry7 about it.

I meant as in getting the techs for promoting from Horse Archer - Knight - Curraissier - Cavalry takes too short below marathon speed. I think its phrased unit upgrades in the game? Aztecs get this free?! Never played as them.

Schuesseled
Apr 20, 2008, 08:51 AM
In civ revolution the aztecs or one of the races get all thier units uto promoted for free whenever you research the next unit along horsearcher > Knight > CAvalry.

So the lack of a big waiut till you can get better units won't be a problem as your troops will auto-promote.

dubrown
Apr 22, 2008, 08:58 AM
I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get Civ Rev. It's time to update the old PS2 to a modern console system anyway. And my plan with Civ rev is to get my wife hooked on the civ franchise. I've tried a million times to get her to try Civ4 on the PC but to no good. BUT, she does enjoy console games from time to time so I see a chance here to get her hooked, thus hopefully even hooked to Civ4 in the end and thus increasing my opportunities to play the game :D

AfterShafter
Apr 27, 2008, 12:12 AM
Is there going to be something like a Marathon option in Civ Rev?

Schuesseled
Apr 27, 2008, 04:43 AM
nope . . . .

Lachlan
Apr 30, 2008, 02:55 PM
As i have a 360 since Avril 2007 my choice is all indicated :)
I 'am bored with Civ 4 + its two add-ons becausee mods are take too much time to work and it crash by moments even with BTS patch 3.13 because i have Vista and i cant run anymore Civ 4 on my Vista 64 bits Home Premium :sad:

My best remains is Civ 2 in 1990s on PC

It seems that Civ Rev is between Civ 2 and Civ 4 in matter of complexity, so i will appreciate it, dear Civers ;)

AbbieRevo
May 08, 2008, 06:14 PM
I also think console/handheld gaming doesn't really lend itself to strategy gaming.

Normally I'd agree with you, at least I would have until I played Age of Empires: Age of Kings for the Nintendo DS. You gotta play that game. I've missed more train stops playing that than I have taking naps.

Real Time strategy doesn't work on the consoles, but the DS was made for Turn-Based Strategy.

Try Advance Wars Dual Strike as well (I personally wasn't as fond of Days of Ruin, it was TOO well balanced)

MasterofDisasta
May 08, 2008, 07:25 PM
Yes! Finally people who understand. The fact that it is portable is what makes Civ Rev so awesome. Any new Civ game would be great but the ability to play Civ Rev on the go is really going to give me more playing time. :goodjob:

JBConquests
May 11, 2008, 09:01 AM
As i have a 360 since Avril 2007 my choice is all indicated :)
I 'am bored with Civ 4 + its two add-ons becausee mods are take too much time to work and it crash by moments even with BTS patch 3.13 because i have Vista and i cant run anymore Civ 4 on my Vista 64 bits Home Premium :sad:

My best remains is Civ 2 in 1990s on PC

It seems that Civ Rev is between Civ 2 and Civ 4 in matter of complexity, so i will appreciate it, dear Civers ;)

I have Vista Ultimate 64 bit and can run Civ 4 BTS just fine... So, it should work for you as well...

Bluetooth
May 23, 2008, 02:28 PM
Not that Iíve decided anything yet but Iím quite sure Iím going to buy Civ Rev for the Nintendo DS sooner or later. Civilization is my favorite game of all time so I believe I canít resist it.

ColinZeal
Jun 06, 2008, 07:02 AM
I wasnīt looking forward to this at all but the demo on PSN ignited my interest and after trying it, Iīve ordered it. Good god it was good!

This from a civfanatic since 1992.