JNES I Roman Empire

Ok, this is the NES that will hopefully hold us over until the SUPERNES arrives, in which I will; decide if the game continues or not, seeing I will be in that one and UKNES2/3.

The rules are very similar to UKNES2, with a couple more add-on’s that make it more complicated for me, but hopefully funner for you. The new addon’s will be trading agreements, and for the most part rebellions and taxes/governments.

Provinces in JNES will be extremely sophisticated. Each province will have a recourse, stone, wood, fish, or grain. Also, each will have a population, which will in fact have a happy stat.

TRADING AND RECOURSES
Each province has a recourse, in which can be traded or used by your nation. The recourses are:
Stone: Decreases to cost of building’s by one gold
Wood: Increases navy defense and offense attacks by one
Grain: Increase population in a chosen area
Fish: Increase population in a chosen area
When an army has occupied the province, it has there on become under the control of the nation, and in the orders (if it is fish or Grain) tell me where the population will rise. This could be good or bad, depending on the state of your nation’s people. You can have a surplus of only 3 recourses, meaning you cannot get the bonus more the three times for every given province. If a surplus is gained, and there is no use for it, you can either trade to another nation who has a surplus of something you need, or it will go to waste. To trade with another nation, you need to a pathway, clear of enemy troops and ships, through provinces to their capital.

MOVING
Each Navy/army can only move one province at a time. You may move however many armies/navies you want in a turn. Transporting- you can load 4 armies onto one fleet maximum, and transport to another sea all in one turn. You cannot, however, unload after the movement in the same turn.

BATTLING
My battle system is somewhat complicated with dies, and so will not write about it since it would take so long. However, I can be persuaded if enough people ask. L

HAPPY
This is how the happy system works: Each of your province has a happy, ranging from 1-10 (10 being the highest). In normal times, you have a happy of 5, which is normal. In war time, for every nation you are against, it is a minus one. When trading, for every trading partner you are with it is a plus one, and when allied )this does not just mean MPP) it is a plus one, during war and peace time. When population is increased, and the happy is a five or above, you get a bonus 1 gold every turn from that province.

Gaining Money
For every province, you gain 3g from taxes, 5g for your capital like in UKNES2. But, if you have a population increase, you gain a + 1 for every population increase in that province. Keep in mind that you can only have 3 population increases for each province.

TOWN HALLS, ETC.
You can build town halls, dock yards, and Barracks in each of your provinces except the capital. Town halls allow you to build both armies and navies, and cost 20g. Barracks and dockyards cost 10g each. When invaded, the structures are destroyed.

· Your armies and navies can only be built by your capital. Thus, for inland capitals, only when a dockyard or town hall (on the coast, of course) is built in a province can you begin construction on a navy
· Once your army is built, it can move once in the same turn. This does not apply to navies.
· All recourses are recognized as follows (all of them are brown or white on the map)
o Stone: A filled circle
o Grain: A hollow Circles
o Wood: A filled Rectangle/Square
o Fish: A filled circle in water
*Your town halls, barracks, and dockyards looks as follows:
- Town halls: Filled White Square
- Dockyards: Filled White Circles
- Barracks: Hollow White circles
* Displays for certain provinces are in the black area the top right corner of the map, and are for the provinces to small to put anything in other then the numbers. Sorry guys… Here, armies in the province will go as a number, then I will write TH for town hall, B for barracks, and D for dockyard. The recourses will be shown next to the number as well in white form.

Nations:
Britannia: UKnemesis
Gaul: Juliennew
Spain
Libya
Rome: Anarchy Rulz
Greece: Kennelly
Egypt
Mesopotamia: Revolutionary
Germanic Tribes:

PLease ignore the last map, here is the real one:

Jason, you sure you don't want to use the UKNES2 map? The link is here:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/uknesii.zip

It's just that that map looks like it's going to be hell to update(very grainy, especially in the sea, how will you see fleets?!) and that black box blocks half of the map!

Anyway, if you'd like to use the UKNES2 map, I can modify it to your needs(got a boring day tomorrow, not much to do, so I'd have time to add more of Africa etc in if you want).

I can also change it to include the extras you want. If you want to use a modified UKNES2 map, PM me with what you'd like changed(ie; resources added). I can also increase the size of the UKNES2 map and the size of the provinces if needed(ie; I'll make sure all the info needed fits in a province, and leaves room for armies etc).

Anyway, back to the game. I'll be the Richard the Lionhearted of Britain, with my trusty General the Duke of Wellington and my best naval officer, Admiral Nelson.

Nemesis

Oh, and I can also add more seas if you like.

It's gonna be nice to actually play a NES like the UKNES2 lol, cause I make NESs as the type of NES I'd want to play, and then I can't play in it cause I made it lol!

Anyway, looking forward to this one. When will it begin?

Also, do units cost the same as in the UKNES2? And is there a resource which makes your armies better, like wood does to fleets?

Finally, can you trade resources(not recourses lol) across seas so long as they have no enemy ships in? Or must you have fleets in them(or not allowed at all?). Or must they both have a dockyard?

Nemesis

Nemesis:

Thanks for the proposol on a map for me, I really, REALLY need one. I will PM you the changes I will need. Good question about the armies, and as of now I am rethinking the whole population thing, and just turning the grain resource to improve armies (like the grain gives the armies a nutritional food to eat before fighting, or something to that extent). The armies cost 3g and navies 5g, like in UKNES2 Trading can be done across seas that YOU HAVE FLEETS IN, either yours, an allie's, or the other trading partner (to prevent piracy). Both must either have a capital or dockyard form the province in which they want to trade from and then too.

-Jason

Oh ya, Game will start when we have someone to control Greece, Egypt, Mesopotamia, Rome, and Gaul. That should be enough. I am afraid, however, that this game has been out a day and no one but you have signed up. I am hoping it will become better!

I shall be General Chris of the fine Roman people.

A small taster of the new map. Resources haven't yet been placed as they should be, I'm leaving that to Jason as I don't know where they should be.

There are fish in Sea A(white circle)

There is stone in Province 1(black square)

There is wood in Province 5(black circle)

There is grain in Province 78(white square)

Town halls are shown by white circles with black borders, as usual.

Barracks are shown by grey squares with white borders(see Province 58 for an example, near the town hall).

Dockyards(or ports) are shown by grey circles with white borders(see Province 73 for an example, near the town hall).

And don't complain about Persia and the new areas not looking right lol, I had to do them by hand!

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/jason.jpg

Nemesis

PS: For SKILORD and others like him:

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads/jason.jpg

When does this NES take place?After the fall of the Empire?

If it comes to life I will be Archon Perikles II of Greece.

What a beautiful map !!
I will be Vercingetorix of the Gaulians

I'll be King of the English
just call me Authar

ooc i know wrong time but who cares unless you have a better name then im open to surgestions?

England is taken by uknemesis.

Join as Egypt or Mesopotamia so the game is close to its beginning.

Mesopotamia will be fine

Im guessing you lot are a regular crowd in NES's

Yes, we are :) Nemesis: Map looks GREAT! That will be perfect. I only need a bitmap now..

The time period takes place at the greatest time of the Roman empire, around A.D. 180. The theme is that the seperate states of the Roman empire are revolting. At this point, however, no one is at war with anyone. All we need now is someone for Egypt, and I will control every other nation.

Ok, here is the real map, and it is final. I have decided that the territory ubclaimed will remain without a resource, and when a nation takes it I will role to see what resource it gets. This will hopefully make it fair. I have roled for all of the recourse sat up now. Almost all this time it came up on 2 (I role a d3 die, and each number was assigned to a resource) and never came up on one! Anyways, here is the map. And for those already playing, y9ou may send in your orders. Also, each unclaimed nation dosnt have any defense, so you can walk right into it.

Haha, I forgot, Filled black circles are forests (wood) and white squares are grain, and black squares are stone. I have decided to discontinue the fish resource.

Instead of a population increase from grain, I have changed it to a bonus when attacking or defending with armies, like when wood does to navies.

Mesopotamia claims 72,51,74,75,76
we hope no one wants this as taking it will result in war.

ooc hope its not too early to start

Do armies and fleets cost the same like in UKNES2?

I think so.

Nemesis

Jason, what is that strange green on the Germanic tribes starting point? Do you use fill with colour in Paint, or do you try and use the paintbrush?

Also, my orders have been sent.

Britain claims Britain, Ireland and Iceland, not to mention whatever we can lay our hands on.

Is there upkeep in this game?

Nemesis

The Green stuff in the Germanic Tribes starting point is something I don't know...lol. I do use the fill option in Paint, but I did not do that, I believe it's a glitch in the upload of the map, because it does not show on my draft on my computer.

Diplomacies and talks can start, as well as sending in orders,k but the update won't be until Egypt is claimed and orders sent in.

Upkeeps are present, and are the same us UKNES2, 1 gold every turn for each navy and army.

Orders should have this information: attacks, movements and buys. That is all you need to encorporate in your PM's to me.

Every, please advertise! lol. I will, if orders are sent in fast enough, update every day, so the game can go fast.

So, everyone who is playing right now, you may send in your PM's.

-Jason

Also, are there militias? And do the capital ones get the extra bonus?

Finally, is the rule about ONE province to ONE destination in force(I know about the load on one turn, unload another, which is going to be hell for Britain!).

Nemesis

There are no militias in unclaimed territories, but there are when they are claimed from a different nation and acts as a weak army and cannot attack. They have a -1 defense value.

For unloading and loading:
Here is an example that will explain everything:

Lets say Britain wants to get from her capital in 6 to province 68. She can build a ship and army, load the army on the ship and unload it on 68 in ONE turn.

However, if you have to move to a different sea, then unload, it takes two turns (one to load and move, one to unload, and if yo uwant, move back). So in a nutshell, loading and unloading DO NOT take turns.

So what you are saying is that unloading takes a fleet turn, just like moving?

That's fine by me lol.

Nemesis

To:Romans,Egyptians and Mesopotamians
From:Greeks

As all our cultures are the most civilized in the world and once had mighty empires,may it be a few thousand years or a few months ago,I suggest we join together to keep down the barbars:the Germanics,Lybians and Iberians. Gaullish and British Celts however can probably be civilized,so we should let them some amount of land.

The Greeks will reinstall Alexanders empire and even more.We therefore claim for the moment 42,43,44,55,47,48 and 49.

ooc looks like you got your work planned out for you, Kenelly, Alexander's empire reached as far as India! lol.

oh, and Nemesis, on the contrary, I was trying to get at that unloading and loading a fleet DOES NOT take a turn. You can unload and load as many times as you want in one turn, just moving from sea to sea takes a turn.

So you mean that you can take anything up to 4 armies on board a fleet from 4 different provinces, and unload them into 4 different destination provinces all in one turn so long as you don't move?

Or is it more than 4(just thinking of the limit to what they can carry).

Nemesis

Greek People

we aknowlage your claims but if they go futher in my direction then a allence can not happen
We suggest central europe is nice this time of year

I also suggest calling the allence the CN for Civalised Nations

OOC sorry about the spelling

I agree CN shall be the name of our alliance.For the moment we won't go further East than what I claimed.Though,due to the superiority of Greek culture the areas further east will become hellenized and join the Greek League one day peacefully.

so we are the first members?
i hope rome shall join quickly and that the British Celts and Gaullish people became ready to be a member of CN

It depends, what benefits would we receive? Would the alliance come to our aid if attacked etc?

And I think you will find the British aren't Celts. The Welsh, Irish and Scots are Celt(well, Scotland are Pict). These are to be united under the English banner, and the English are Saxon.

Anyway, we are very civilised, we use the Romans roads etc that they left behind, and their villas etc.

Richard

It would be a force that make sure we can enrich others cultuers as well as holding back the barbarian hordes (soon as they arrive)

Of course every member has to aid an attacked nation.

[But it's 180 A.D.,I thought Saxons arrived in the 5th century]

Nemesis: As long as all the provinces are connected with the sea, then yes.

I still need orders from Juliennew and future egyptian ruler.

Only 180AD?! Damn, I thought it was about 500AD, with the Romans not owning Britain and all.

Okay then, we are all Celts in Britain.

Richard

OOC : How many gold do we have at the beginning ?

To the world :
The Gaulians are now free of the Roman's chains and wants to have a part in the CN. Like England, we have inherited of great infrastructure and science from the Roman Empire and I already gave orders to my druids to study the things that remain mysterious. But before any engagement, I suggest a council to determine the level of cooperation and the conditions of admittance.
Anyway, I claim the provinces 7,8,10,11,12,13 to be Gaulians. More provinces could be claimed in the years to come.

To General Chris :
I don't forget the level of civilization you gave to the Gaulians. I hope we can become good friends and cooperate within the framework of the CN.

To Alexander :
I hope you the best for your empire.

To Richard :
We are both formers Roman colonies. I hope we can cooperate strongly and make our voices heard in the CN council.

To Mesopotamia :
I hope you the best for your empire too.

To Egypt - Greece - Mesopotamia and Rome :
I hope that the CN will put all the nations on the same level and that you won't see Gaul and Britain as second zone nations.

To The World:

Roman Legions are going to bring back the glory of our Empire. We claim regions 30,32,33,31,28,27,and 26.

Anyone who does not cooperate will be forced into a war with mighty Rome!

OOC : Arf !! Anarchy, you like evilistic and militaristic empires !! I don't like the fact that you are my neighbor ;)

I also claim 34, 35 and 36

yes, I am evil...WHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You start out with 5g, Juliennew, the money from your capital. I guess, since no one seems to be joining after this (hopefully they will notice that the pages are getting longer..) I will control Egypt for now. Only for Juliennew's orders.....

When's the update?

In about 1 hour the update should be finished.

Okay, 1st map update.

Everyone has 8g to spend!

Resources are show as:
Wood: white hollow circles
Stone: Filled black squares/rectangles
Grain: Hollow squares/rectangles

Armies:
Black filled circles
Navies:
White circles

Note: Since of Mesopotamia’s dark color armies are show as gray circles

Mesopotamia has found Wood in 51!
Gaul has found Stone in 11!
Rome has found Stone in 31!
Greece has found wood in 44!
Britain has found stone in 5!

Don't you mean everyone has 9 gold to spend?

Everyone spent 3 gold last turn out of 5(unless you charge upkeep for the turn you buy the unit), leaving 2 gold. This with the 8 everyone has this turn leaves 10 gold, take away one for upkeep.

This gives you 9 gold.

Nemesis

From Mesopotamia
To Egypt

All land in Saudi Araba is going to be mine. I suggest you expand in Africa

From Mesopotamia
To Greece

My nations people beg of me to ask you weather or not 50 will be Greek or Mine, it's just that I would prefer that you keep the Germanic tribes back.

From Mesopotamia
To Britain and Gaul

If or (I hope) when you join the CN you would be complete members, we only meant that as newly Civilisied nations we hope you would keep to living in stone as opposed to living in wood.

To:Mesopotomia
From:Greece

I think 50 should be yours;I will expand further into Dacia and Moesia

To:Gaul+Britannia

The Gaullish have been civilized for over 200 years,so I think they can be members of the CN.But the British only lived with Roman culture for 70 years,so I think they should become associated members first.Full members will help them if attacked,but not if attacking.This status will end after 3 years.

How dare you! We British may not speak in high pitched voices, but we could teach you Greeks a thing or two about war!

We will join the CN, but we will not aid in any attacks, just as you will not to for us. In actual fact, we will never support any of your attacks, just help you in defence, as I hope you will do with us.

Apart from that, we have no wish to be further associated with such bigots.

Richard

I'll play Espania.

Right, Nemesis, for some odd reason I was taking upkeep the same turn, and that doesn't make sense! LOL. I'm sorry, everyone, it is 9g.

To:Britannii
From:Greeks

You want to teach us about war?We fought with Iron weapons,siege weapons and war chariots when you used stones and bones.But that you think you could teach us in war only shows how uncivilized you still are.We will aid you if attacked but never help you if you attack with your barbaric furor.

Can i play the Germans or is the game closed.

Demetria and Skilord, welcome. You may play, but must cope with the orders I have made for those nations. (Don't worry, I made good moves and, ironically, those two nations are the richest ones in the game right now!! LoL)

you did make nice moves.
i assume we move this turn.....

Spain would like to join CA under the same limitations as the britons.

To The CNU
From Germanic Tribes
Will the nations of the CNU continue to threaten the Germanic people or is there some hope for peace with at least a few of You. Just because we resisted the Conquest of the Roman Empire does not make us backwards barbarians with no civilization. We have a great cultural history and our ancestor meet the chinese long before yours.

To Brittian, Gaul, Hispania.
Will your nations join mine in an alliance. We are looked down upon by the founders of the CNU. they see us as second class nations. Will you join me in an alliance. For i don't see us as such but valiant nations with our own glorious past. So what if our ancestors did not have the machines and inventions that the Meditteranian civilizations had. Does not that make what conquest they did make all the more valiant. Please join me in a league of "Uncivilized" Nations.

I accept

To the CNU :
Gaul won't associate with an organization that stigmatise the differences between the peoples.

To the Germnanic tribes :
I accept your proposition.

To Spain :
As the CNU see you as second zone nation, I suggest you associates with us on the UNU.

From Mesopotomia
To Uncicilised Nations

I hope that you aim to prove your unwarlike nature by not setting up this "league" to cause war with us. Gaul is welcome to join as a full member at any time but I will argue Britain's case to joining to the rest of the members.

From Mesopotomia
To Hispania

You are welcome to join as a full member due to the long period of roman rule. We hope that you would rather join the CN. Some may think of us as bigots but truly we just wish to make sure no one suffers as they would under a "hut" system. We meant no offiense to you or any other nation.

To the CN
From The Germanic Tribes.
We propose not "hut" system. Just one of equality. You would give these nations second rate status just so you could plead friendship while ripping them off. i propose no second rate system all nations actually part of the system will have equal say in what goes on. We wish to protect all peoples from the rages of inequality.

I join with uk and Demetrias.

To Hispania
From Germania
Thank you my friend in the far south my nation and people thank you for there is now balance in the world and we can work to keep the world peaceful and organized. May your glorious reign last for ever.

To Spain :
I hope you won't accept the proposal of a such far away "friend". I hope that you will join the UNU because it is time for our nations to cut the umbilical cord with the Roman Empire and their clones. Join us and we will grow as mighty empires without any foreign dependence.

To the CNU :
Even if I don't become a member of the CNU, I don't want any war between your nations and me. My only willing is to grow without the influence we had for centuries.

To Spain :
I glady aplause your decision.

Surpose its what you get for dealing with barbarains! Any disputs over land had better be done by talking not war. We surpose we must live with the situsion...

OOC- Julien i would like to help you out a little with your english. Most of the time when you write willings what you really should have wrote wishes or wish. Like i don't wish to go to war. Or as in your sentence i only wish to grow without..... OK. man. if i have trouble saying something in french i would love for someone to correct me because man have i learned nothing in that class.-ooc

OOC : Thanks. My last English's lesson is quite far now.
Sadly, the French isn't a international language anymore ...

To:UNU+other CNU members
From:Greece

As there are now two blocs in the world and although we think your people will someday flip to our cultures I propose a NAP between both alliances.

To:Spain and Gaul
From:Greece

Although we still think you would be worthy to be full members of CNU we wish you best in forging your empires.We hope someday you will leave the British and Germanic barbars and join the civilized nations.

[OOC Please,join anyone as Egypt and Libya,so world is really divided with plenty of fun OOC]

To Greece
From Germania
i am sorry but as we are not a union lead by one nation but and equal partnership i must ask my fellow members of the UNU. And would you refrain from refering to Britian and me as Barbars. i assure you that we are quite as civilizied as you. And let me remind you that for all your "advanceness'' the romans still beat you while they have never subjegated me or my people.

I have always been indepenant and the nations who were taken were closer to rome then you.
Why would you say "...they have never subjegated me or my people..." unless you have no resecpt for people who were under romen rule, this include's your "equal" partners Britain,Spain and Gaul.

No i have great respect for them. they who started out without your great advantages held out longer and through of the yoke faster. it took two hundred years for rome to conquer hispania. Which my friend is a stuning accomplishment in and of its self.

ooc- ah your playing mesopitamia. This is two early but you were. dang.

To The World:

I see alliances brewing already. Well Rome IS the world. We hope that no nation is foolish enough to attack Roman troops or soil. I hope that the world can live in peace.

To Rome

Is rome apart of the CN? The germans can not be trusted any deals with them must be done through a non-german representive.

I do not take offence at the German speech. They are right, they bravely fought off the Romans, as the Picts did. The British fought hard against Rome, and that is all that really matters to us now we are free.

To the bigots Greece

You will find that you sing a different tune when you face a British army in battle! You should stop taunting us "barbarians" or you will find us destroying your nations as true barbarians did to Rome.

I do not believe that some people can be so arrogant, pompous and moronic.

Arthur

To Babylon(I'm too tired to write your full name)

You should watch your tongue when talking about a British ally. Unlike you "civilised" people, we don't stab people in the back, for us an oath is an oath, and so we will defend our allies should they be in need.

Arthur

To Rome

Rome ISN'T the world. I think you will find most roads in Britain don't lead to Rome.

But we still wish peace with you. We just hope you can calm your arrogant and downright rude(they call us barbarians!) allies.

Arthur

To the "Civilised Nations"

You consider yourselves above us? I do not see why, since our warriors are as fierce and brave as yours. And we can talk just as clearly as "Alexander the Pompous".

It was that attitude towards lesser races that made them rebel against Rome, and look what happened there. Rome was sacked by the Goths due to their arrogance on how the barbarians weren't strong enough to do so.

Arthur

"THE KING IS DEAD, LONG LIVE THE KING!"

King Richard the Lionhearted today died in a battle against the Scots. He died soon after the battle from wounds, but not before he had been told of his great victory.

Now the armies of Picts that refused to listen to reason have been crushed, and Britain is united for the first time since the Romans invaded.

"Defeating the Picts was something not even the Romans could do. But our great King, Richard the Lionhearted, did this and much more. He will be sadly missed." Said his son, Arthur Pendragon, who had been in Ireland defeating rebels there.

Arthur is now King, and due to his battlefield talent, civilised and honest ways, and his skill at diplomacy, many think he will usher in a great time for Britain.

This "barbarian" thinks that if the British can stop the Picts, and the Romans couldn't, doesn't that say something about the "civilised" nations?

OOC uk are you doing the update for UKNES2 yet?

To Britain
From Babylon (my name now)

I hope that you will remember that I was always fair to your father and tried to help him. I hope that we can get along as I see you as a nation that can be trusted and dealt with as long as you do not take orders from the "germans". We should sign a NAP so that our people's do not ever go to war.

I'm working on it now, just beginning to review orders.

Nemesis

To my cultured friend Babylon

You address me in a different tone to the arrogant Greeks that my father always moaned about. That is always a good sign.

I agree to the non aggression pact. I am a soldier at heart I admit, but I am a peaceful soldier who hates war. I would like nothing than to retire and live a simple life.

But it is not to be. My people need me.

Anyway, back to the point. I hope we can both prosper from this. And warn your friends the Greeks that I am twice the general my father was, as he taught me to be so.

That means if they don't stop being so arrogant, they will find their hoplite formations being destroyed by my cultured hand.

Arthur

I thank you for your rsponse to the agreement we now have, but what you must not do is threaten war on the basis of words. I'm sure that before freindships will be tested so please I beg of you make sure that disputs are settled peacefully.

Babylon

Okay, 2nd map update.


Resources are show as:
Wood: white hollow circles
Stone: Filled black squares/rectangles
Grain: Hollow squares/rectangles

Armies:
Black filled circles
Navies:
Nation’s color in shape of a square

Note: Since of Mesopotamia’s dark color ALL WHITE OBJECTS are shown as gray.


Babylon has 11g to spend!
Gaul has 13g to spend!
Rome has 13g to spend!
Greece has 14g to spend!
Britain has 12g to spend!
Spain has 13g to spend!
Libya has 7g to spend!
Egypt has 13g to spend!
Germanic Tribes have 16g to spend!


The black nation between Spain and France is known as a Disputed Territory, in which two peaceful nations are trying to acquire the same territory, and in which sent the same amount of armies. It is up to the two nations to figure out this squabble.

Also, notice the British ship in sea D and how it looks like.

Also, trading is now in affect with some nations that have connections through their territory’s. You may now begin trading, in which you must both agree, then both send me a PM saying with who and what you are trading. Also, note that each resource has a value:
Wood: +1 to fleet defense and offense
Stone: -1 gold from total cost of structures
Grain: +1 to defense and offense of armies.

Remember, you can have up to three resources that allow you to benefit from it.

Every triplet (1 wood resource, 1 stone resource, and 1 grain resource) gives you an extra 2 gold for your turn. That is another reason why you might want to trade with another nation. There is no limit to the amount of beneficial triplets a nation may have.

To Spain :
Dear friend
I don't want that our new cooperation transform in tensions because of this. But as I told before, I claimed the province 12 to be Gaulian. And this territory is adjacent to Lutece and is vital for the security of my empire. I hope that you will understand that I can't abandon this province.
I suggest you to expand in former Carthagenian empire. I will support you in any claims other there

To The Germanic Tribes:
We are claiming area 13 to be Roman land. We hope you understand, but that land is vital to our security in the Mediteranian.

From Gaul
The province 13 is Gaulian. I, exchange of leaving me 13, I won't interfere in the provinces 32, 33 and 26.

From Gaul

To Britain and the germanic tribes :
I hope that you will support my rightfuls claims on the province 12 and 13. I claimed these provinces to be Gaulians and are necessary for my security.

TO GAUL
FROM BRITAIN

I fully accept your rightful claims, and wish to trade with you(I'm not sure how it's done yet though).

TO JASON THE KING
FROM UKNEMESIS

When you trade, do you lose the resources you are sending? And do having triplets on your own soil count too?

Do we have to declare we are using the benefits of the resource if we want to use it, or is it automatic? And are they one shot use, or general that work for your entire empire(but then what is the point in more than one of each? Do the effects stack, like you end up with 3 gold off every building?).

Nemesis

Nemesis:
To answer you questions in the same order:
Yes, you do lose the resource when you trade it (that is why you trade when you either have a surplus of it or do not want it)
Haveing triplets when you don't trade for anything, you mean? The answer to that question would be yes.
The benefits are automatic, and are like general use, that works for your entire empire, and you could end up using 3 stone, giving you 3g off of the cost of your buildings, a +3 defense/offense for your armies fomr grain..etc.! (that is why I need to make the buildings a little more expensive)

I hope that answers your questions, Nemesis. Anyone else not clear on anything?

From Babylon
To The world

in the next turn we will be moving into 53,49,52,72 and 75 any objections(greece or egypt)?
Though this is not the offical stance of the CN I support Spain's claim to the land in dispute. Gaul has many lands to expand into while spain has only africa which is going every turn.

From Gaul
To Babylon :
Dear emperor
I don't think you would be agree that Egypt annex a province adjacent to your capitol. That's why I don't agree to cede the province 12. And I wont go further than the province 34 and 36. I don't need more lands for the moments.
To make it clear, I repeat Gaulian's claims :
Province 7,8,10,11,12,13,34,35,36

From Gaul
To Rome and Spain :
A war between our nations would severaly lower our expansion. Our armies, instead of annexing several free provinces, will fight for only one. Is it reasonable if we want mighty empires ? I don't think so.

Sorry then Gaul, I cannot trade this turn, as my only surplus over the triplet is another wood, and this adds to my fleets, and so I will not trade it.

TO ALL NATIONS OF THE WORLD

Britain supports all of her allies claims!

Arthur

From Lybia
To Britain :
Dear friend
You can be sure that you will be one my principal trader partner.

To:Mesopotamia
From:Greece

Please leave 49 to me.You still have Arabia and Eastern Russia to expand but I will very soon meet the Gaullish and especially the Germanic barbars expanding,so I need 48 and 49.

To:Spain+Gaul

As long as there is no NAP between both our alliances I offer you bilateral NAPs.

To Greece
From Germania
I perpose a demarkation of territory to keep our nations from squabling over land as such i will offer to expand no further south then i already am and you will promise to go no further north the provences 41-43-55. I hope you will agree and keep our nations at peace.

OOC- Jason if i build a navy at the capitol and upload an army in 37 can i take and off load that army in that turn or is traveling in the same sea considered a move.-ooc

TO BABYLON
FROM ARTHUR

We do not usually intrude on other nation's affairs, but we hope you will not expand into 71, 61 or 54, as this will be seen as an act of aggression against our Germanic allies.

You are a Middle Eastern power, and a great one, but please keep to the Middle East. The people in those provinces are more at home under the Germans, and we hope that you will agree to this.

If you do, I propose a NAP to seal the friendship between our nations(or have we already got one?!).

TO EVERYONE

I count amongst my allies Gaul, Iberia and the Germanic tribes. Do not attack or threaten these, or you will feel how sharp British swords are.

Arthur

From Babylon
To Greece

This land is also needed by us because of its closeness to Babylon, also you have quite some distence till you can get there and i am there. I will cede any land I have not taken in russia as a deal also I will help you diplomaticatly in any arguement's over your land which the germanic tribes claim.

To Gaul

I still think you should give up the land as it will mean you can claim land out of the way of Rome.

To Britain and Gaul

Have you thought about settleing in sweden and norway as a way of avoiding land dispute's. Just a suggestion but if you dont then the "germans" will and I find you two much more able to work with.

To Britain
From Babylon

The Russian's are no more German then middle easten therefore it is first come first serve.

TO THE WORLD

As Babylon has suggested it, and therefore others may take them up on that offer, I must state what I had already had in mind.

Britain claims ALL of Scandinavia, except Denmark. Our claims extend to 63 as well to guarantee our security.

Denmark will not be British, but I hope it will be German.

63 is going to be a British stronghold, so I suggest no one take it unless they want war. The only nation I will even listen to an argument over 63 with is Germany, and then it would have to be an argument that was in favour of Britain's security.

I repeat, anyone touch Scandinavia(other than Denmark) or Province 63 and there WILL BE WAR!

Also, any fleets in A, B, C, D, E, F or G that aren't an ally of Britain will be considered an enemy and sunk. Allies, please warn me of your fleets, as if I have some in the area, I will gladly transport you on those instead, saving you the cost.

Finally, any fleets in C or D without my permission will be sunk, allied or not.

Sorry to take such extreme measures, but the British people are weak on land, only at sea do we rule, as our security as an island is at stake at sea.

Arthur

Hispania's leader has a face! a name and everything!

King Ferdinand.

He allows the Gauls to take their province 12 and vows to control all of Western Africa.

he wishes to undertand trade and claims he will be 'on vacation' starting Friday.

He also says that he wishes his fleet to dominate the Medditerranean. (see my nifty spelling!)

I still need orders from Skilord, Juliennew, and Demetrias. Keep it up guys, this NES is prospering! I hope we can get some players for Egypt and Libya soon, though.

Orders are in!

To Rome :
Dear Caesar
The province 13 now belongs to Spain and you must know that I will support her in claiming this land. For our own safety, don't interfere wih this please.

It would be best for you as my forces are instructed to make sure it becomes mine.

To:Germanics
From:Greece

I agree with the NAP.I will take 41,43 and 55 and won't go any further in the Eastern Europe.In case of Russia I agree with my Babylonic friends:Who comes first gets it.

To:Babylon
From:Greece

I don't understand your offer about Russia.So you allow me to take territory there?It will take ages to reach this.But you could take it now and later cede it to me.In exchange I allow you to take 49 and 50.

I am still missing Demetrias's orders. If orders are not in by 10:00 tonight (PST), I will move for him. Consider, for now on, map updates almost every day at 10:00 PM PST or earlier. 1 1/2 days at most will go between updates, so get your orders in!!

From Babylon
To Greece

With Russia I am trying to take the easten most parts so that i dont have a far flung empire. I think you are being overly good to the "germens". You should take all the land you can get your hands on.

To Britain

I would like to think of our nations as freinds, so as a freind Im telling you that the relationship with the germanic tribies is worrying. They will bring you into a war that you do not want. I do not want to ever be on opposite sides of the battlefied with you.

To:Babylon
From:Greece

I'm afraid this is all land I can get in Central Europe at least without a war.So I either need 49 and 50 or land in Eastern Russia which you will reach before me and then cede to me if you don't want a Greece which can easily be overrun be a giant Germanic Empire.

Since I will most likely not be able to get on-line tonight, I have to update now. Sorry, Demetris, I know it has only been one day, but I dont want everyone ot have to wait 2 days, do you? I will check once more in one hour, but then I will put the map up.

Jesus Christ Jason(and no, that doesn't mean you're him :p ), you update fast!

Good work, it'll keep people interested(although some may feel rushed).

But personally I think the more often it can be updated, the better(just wish I was as dedicated lol, but I'm too lazy).

Can't wait to see if anyone challenges my claims lol.

Nemesis

actually, Nemesis, I found out that I can get on tonight, so I will wait for Demetris. I'm sure his movements are going to be important to him. To speed things up, do you know of anything THAT important that he might want to do?

I'm dedicated...sure...but I'm also bored..lol.

I think he may be planning to take Denmark, since he mentioned fleets(and he wouldn't risk my wrath by taking Scandinavia, surely?).

Also, I'm sure he'd just expand into the areas he specified(not sure whether he has or not, you'd have to recheck the thread).

Anyway, I'm sure he'll be on soon, and if not, you're a good enough player to make his moves(I know mods are the best at moving for you lol, cause I do it all the time in the UKNES2 when people are away, and I have the benefit of seeing what others are doing first :p ).

Nemesis

ooc-sorry not to get my orders in before now. but i was alseep till 5 pm central and then i went off to church so did not have time to get them in.

No problem here... the map update:

Okay, 3rd map update.


Resources are show as:
Wood: white hollow circles
Stone: Filled black squares/rectangles
Grain: Hollow squares/rectangles

Armies:
Black filled circles
Navies:
Nation’s color in shape of a square

Note: Since of Mesopotamia’s dark color ALL ARMIES are shown as gray.

Rome has 21g to spend!
Babylon has 31g to spend!
Greece has 21g to spend!
Britain has 19g to spend!
Spain has 24g to spend!
Gaul has 13g to spend!
Libya has 10g to spend!
Egypt has 16g to spend!
Germania has 22g to spend!


Also, trading is now in affect with some nations that have connections through their territory’s. You may now begin trading, in which you must both agree, then both send me a PM saying with who and what you are trading. Also, note that each resource has a value:
Wood: +1 to fleet defense and offense
Stone: -1 gold from total cost of structures on a turn
Grain: +1 to defense and offense of armies.

Remember, you can have up to three resources that allow you to benefit from it.

Every triplet (1 wood resource, 1 stone resource, and 1 grain resource) gives you an extra 2 gold for your turn. That is another reason why you might want to trade with another nation. There is no limit to the amount of beneficial triplets a nation may have.

Notice: Babylonia has built Town Squares (5g each, and updates the province it is in to giving 5g each turn) and look like TS in the province. He also has 3 stone, which was deleted from final cost (5+5+5=15 – 3 (the stone benefit) = 12)

BTW, there is Grain in Province 26, sorry, must have missed it.

Also my army in Scotland should be in Norway :p

And finally, I've got 3 wood! Woohoo, perfect for a naval nation!

Now just need one more stone, and I can get building...

Nemesis

TO THE GERMANIC TRIBES
FROM BRITAIN

We hope that the extra army on board a fleet in the Baltic is going to Denmark, or back home, since we wouldn't like an incident between our countries...

That is also why I suggest that you leave 63 alone, or if you must claim it, then hand it over the next turn, as otherwise there may be some... consequences.

I hate to threaten an ally, but I really have to guarantee the security of Britain. Denmark would have been a disputed territory had I not changed my orders, as I decided to let that province be yours. I hope you will return the favour in 63.

Arthur

To Spain:

We wish to sign a MPP with you.

To The Germanic Tribes:

We wish to sign a MPP with you.

To Gaul:

We wish to sign a MPP with you.

To Greece:

We wish to sign a MPP with you.

TO THE GERMANIC TRIBES:

Sorry for my outburst, I really should check my messengers first!

Anyway, I have sent you a reply that has advantages for us both.

Arthur

TO ROME

Why no MPP with Britain? Fine, have it your way.

I just hope that you do word into these MPPs that they in no way affliate those nations with the CN.

Arthur

Whoops, I forgot u Britian. I swear i was gonna ask....:rolleyes:

To Britain:

We wish for a MPP pact.

[OOC- lol :p ]

TO ROME

We gladly accept a MPP with you, on the basis(for both of us) that it will not affect our loyalty to our alliances.

Arthur

To:Rome
From:Greece

Aren't you a member of CN?Then we already have a MPP.If not I suggest you quickly join.

To:Babylon
From:Greece

As you now can see I really need 49 and 50.I only have 7 provinces,you already 8 and in the next turn probably 11.But 49 and 50 is the only direction Greece can expand and we desperately need the taxes from these areas.So Greece now officiaaly claims 49 and 50.If you take any of these there will be war.I'm sorry to take such measures against an ally but without these provinces we will be the weakest nation in Europe.

TO GREECE
FROM BRITAIN

For once I agree with you. Babylon is taking too much land in that area which I would consider other nation's, yet those nations don't speak up against them!

I know we have had differences in the past, and that I have a NAP with Babylon, but I think allies should be able to resolve things peacefully, as Germany and I are doing.

Therefore, I sponsor your ownership of 49 and 50.

Arthur

To Greece
From Babylon

There all your's.

To Britain

The only reason we have expanded so much into lands not tradisionly(?) ours is because the Germans have so much land to go into and to keep a blance in europe I must counter them.

To Babylon
From Germania
There is no need for you to gain territory to balance. If you gain Rome as an ally then your alliance will hold more territory. My allies have already claimed Scandanavia. And i need those Russian territories to maintain my border. As you can see from the map I already have the longest unfriendly border. Bordering three unallied nations in five different provences i assure you that as things stand now you balance us quit well.

To Rome.
From Germania
I suggest you either remain a neutral country and only alline your self with nations you fill will help you to gain the most territory or you join in the UNU. As you can tell from our past actions it is quite clear that we are the more flexible and diplomatic of the Two alliances. We are not constently bicker over territory or trying to out race each other to territory. You will have the most to gain from an alliance with us. Please think about the offer.

ooc- the spelling of that word is traditionaly rev.- ooc

I need orders still from Anarchy Rulz, Juliennew, and Revolutionary. Great job guys on getting orders in so fast. That helps the game move steadier. I apologize to anyone if I made a mistake, as I am still trying to get used to this. Can't wait for a battle, though!

Anyone try and claim 63 and there will be one...

Arthur

Oh, and one new thing,

Seeing as the resources are not having an impact (everyone has merely the same!), later in the game resources will begin deteriating, creating the need for wars and territory gain (i.e. the Romans wanting a powerful army using grain, Britain wanting the powerful Navy using wood, etc). I also, determining on numerous reasons and chance, will start rebellions and outside invasions (i.e. nubians, Vikings, Mongols, Persians etc.). This, however, won't be until far after all territories are taken and game is settled.

To:Babylon
From:Greece

I am glad we were able to settle this dispute peacefully.

To:Britain
From:Greece

I thank you for your support.Obviously the 80 years with Roman culture taught you more than we thought,especially in Diplomacy.Probably because you are more romanized than your old father.As Britain now has a peaceful and civilized leader I offer a NAP.

That NAP is graciously accepted, with clauses written in should we be forced to help our alliances.

Arthur

OOC - Uh Jason you kinda can't have the Vikings, or Persians invade. Since one is an establish kingdom taking chunks of Russia from me and the others are being taken over by me and uk as we speak. Turks and Mongols work LOL exspecially since all the land persia is claiming is where they hit first. - ooc

To Brittian
From Germania
i have some extra stone i can't use so you want to trade me some grain i could use that extra triplet.

Sorry Germany, I am not trading the grain since I need the money from it for my triple.

However, I will be willing to trade surplus with you next turn.

Arthur

From Gaul

To Rome :
I won't sign a MPP with you for the moment but I will be glad to sign a NAP.

To the world :
Gaul won't claim any more lands for the moment. I also wish to trade grain for wood.

Demetrias-
Babylon is NOT persia, but rather was conquered by Persia on their way to Greece, where they were forced back. Persia actually originated in Iran, hence the country was formally named Persia. Your right, Vikings were home to Scandinavia and Iceland, but also had small colonies in Greenland, not shown, and once dispersed from Iceland and Scandinavia are wandering hordes in ships ;) .

My orders are in!

OOC- Jason i was reading it off your map. Your Babylon is actually northeastern iraq(Mesopotamia) and western Iran(persia). Sorry if i sound rude or something.-ooc

To UNU and Rome
From Germania.
I am offering to trade to any of my allies in the UNU of stone. That is all i have of surplus this turn if any one of you wants it or if Rome wants it as part of their deal to get in just contact me as sone as possible.

Ok, Demetrias, it's cool

Still waiting for orders from Anarchy Rulz, everything else is updated. Tomorrow, I will basically be bored all day, so if you guys pump the orders out, we can make it a doubler. lol.

i gave u orders....remember u said I had 4gleft cuz I had stone. Oh well, I will resend.

Thanks for fowarding them again, I do remember getting them, but I must have lost them.

Okay, 4th map update.


Resources are show as:
Wood: white hollow circles
Stone: Filled black squares/rectangles
Grain: Hollow squares/rectangles

Armies:
Black filled circles
Navies:
Nation’s color in shape of a square

Note: Since of Mesopotamia’s dark color ALL ARMIES are shown as gray.

Rome has 25g to spend!

Babylon has 45g to spend!

Greece has 26g to spend!

Britain has 28g to spend!

Spain has 20g to spend!

Gaul has 37g to spend!

Libya has 17g to spend!

Egypt has 21g to spend!

Germania has 31g to spend!


Also, trading is now in affect with some nations that have connections through their territory’s. You may now begin trading, in which you must both agree, then both send me a PM saying with who and what you are trading. Also, note that each resource has a value:
Wood: +1 to fleet defense and offense
Stone: -1 gold from total cost of structures on a turn
Grain: +1 to defense and offense of armies.

Remember, you can have up to three resources that allow you to benefit from it.

Every triplet (1 wood resource, 1 stone resource, and 1 grain resource) gives you an extra 2 gold for your turn. That is another reason why you might want to trade with another nation. There is no limit to the amount of beneficial triplets a nation may have.

Demetrias:

LoL, your orders were all jumbled up, and I guess it was my fault for not catching them earlier. Instead of making everyone wait until you can get back on, I just tried to get them close to what you wanted. You can’t build a barracks, then same turn build an army from it, you have to wait for the barracks to build, the next turn is when you can an army, so I built it in your capital and sent it to 39, on it’s way to 40. You also said for some/an army/ies to be sent from 58 to 60, but they’re not connected. So, I sent them to 59, also on their way. Hope this was close enough!

To Greece:

What is that fleet doing in Roman waters?

From Gaul

To Germany :
I have a proposal for you. I would like to own the province 38 and I wish to buy it from you. I have 9 provinces and I need this one to have a stronger economy. Your price will be mine.

To Rome :
My troops will remain at the border until a NAP is signed between our nations. I propose you one.

We, The Romans, accept Gaul's NAP.

From Babylon
To Egpyt

I suggest moving the troops you have from our border before I decided that I wish to expand into the area of troop bulid up.(78)

To Britain

You have my support, since you told EVERYONE that 63 was yours, also you said if ANYONE took it there would be war. While war is a little extreme you have my backing to claim it back.

To babylon
From Germania
i suggest you but out of our internal politics as you can see i have the troops to keep you and brittian out. And unless you want war you will send no troops into 63. Your doing so will be considered and act of war. This will be settled by me and the Brits so but out or else.

My support dear savage is diplomatic not war, if you would matrue as a nation prehaps you wouldnt be threatening me in your decalite positain.
Do not seek to threaten me or the dogs of war will come to your land dear germania.

OOC I'm only acting this pompus, your doing great Demetrias

To:Rome
From:Greece

I'm sorry,this fleet only carries tourists visiting old Greek settlements like Neapolis or Tarentum

To:Britain
From:Greece

As you supported my claim on 49 and 50 I now fully support your claim on 63.I will give you all diplomatical help against the uncivilized Germanic barbars.

To:Germanics
From:Greece

I hope your new barracks in 40 don't show any hostile intentions towards the Greek people.

Province 63 WILL be British, and an offer as been sent to them I hope they can agree to. I hope the Germanic people are simply securing it for us now.

If they do not accept our deal, our troops WILL take it back at any cost, and I will be glad of support.

But I feel it won't be necessary, as I have offered very reasonable terms which they would be foolish to reject.

TO THE WORLD

Britain has 1 wood that it would like to exchange for 1 stone.

Arthur

From Egypt
To Babylon

Do not worry about the troops build up in the Nile Delta. If it does worry you, I shall disperse them. It's just that this is where the water is, and the only place I can keep my army.


ooc
Ok, everyone, nice work.
Socrates has completed the following works (I don't care if he wasn't alive during this time, he is in the game, ok? lol):

To Largest Empire in the World (area, not # of provinces):
Babylon and Germania

Most lucrative Nation:
Babylon

Most Powerful nation:
Germania

Most Strategic nation:
Germania

The following nicknames are what people refer to instead of the nation name:

Babylon: "The civilized nation"
Britain: "The Sea Nation"
Greece: "The torch nation"
Rome: "The Peninsula Nation"

Looks like Babylon and Germania are the world powers

Yes, but they also have huge borders to defend. So it would be wise that Germania accepted my generous offer about Province 63.

Otherwise they will face British troops in combat, and trust me, they are deadly.

Also, Britain will soon have the distinct advantage of only having one province which borders another nation. All of the other ways are seas, which our fleets can easily defend.

Arthur

aye, and once Britain gets all her provinces, she might also be a world power.

To Brittian
From Germania
I will gladly trade you one stone for that extra wood you have.

OOC- Jason do we still have to pm you or will you take this as a deal?-ooc

to Babylon
from Germania
i am glad you have decided to only offer diplomatic aid as anything else would see our two nations at war and i personally do not want to have to send my brave citizens to fight in the middle east.

Sorry, I forgot to send orders in!

I'll do it now.

Nemesis

To Germania

Considering you two were the best of freinds before this I doubt very much you would go to war. Besides it on the wrong side of europe for me to have more that a passing interest.

To Egypt

Are you apart of the CN? if not then you should sign. You have been civilisled for thousands of years so I think you make the grade.

To Babylon
We will gladly sign the pact. My nation is happy to be apart of the CN.

-Egypt


When you trade, both parties must anounce it in their orders.

Waiting for orders from Revolutionary...

I sent them already but ill send them again

To Lybia
From Germania
i offer both of you membership in the UNU. Please join. You are kindrid spirits which have conquered an ancient empire. join those who support progress and new nations not the return of long dead empires that died even before Rome conquered their people.

To Egypt
From Germania
i don't understand my friend why you would choice to alline yourself with your ancient nemesises. these nations you have joined with have been those who through out history have inslaved your people. they offer friendship on the ways of the past but in the past there was no friendship just greed and lust for more power. Do not again be subjegated to there opressions.

To: Germania
From: Egypt

Egypt hold no grudges, friend.

Okay, 5th map update.


Resources are show as:
Wood: white hollow circles
Stone: Filled black squares/rectangles
Grain: Hollow squares/rectangles

Armies:
Black filled circles
Navies:
Nation’s color in shape of a square

Note: Since of Mesopotamia’s dark color ALL ARMIES are shown as gray.

Rome has 36g to spend!

Babylon has 51g to spend!

Greece has 14g to spend!

Britain has 54g to spend!

Spain has 30g to spend!

Gaul has 47g to spend!

Libya has 23g to spend!

Egypt has 23g to spend!

Germania has 55g to spend!


Also, trading is now in affect with some nations that have connections through their territory’s. You may now begin trading, in which you must both agree, then both send me a PM saying with who and what you are trading. Also, note that each resource has a value:
Wood: +1 to fleet defense and offense
Stone: -1 gold from total cost of structures on a turn
Grain: +1 to defense and offense of armies.

Remember, you can have up to three resources that allow you to benefit from it.

Every triplet (1 wood resource, 1 stone resource, and 1 grain resource) gives you an extra 2 gold for your turn. That is another reason why you might want to trade with another nation. There is no limit to the amount of beneficial triplets a nation may have.

Demetrias:

LoL, your orders were all jumbled up, and I guess it was my fault for not catching them earlier. Instead of making everyone wait until you can get back on, I just tried to get them close to what you wanted. You can’t build a barracks, then same turn build an army from it, you have to wait for the barracks to build, the next turn is when you can an army, so I built it in your capital and sent it to 39, on it’s way to 40. You also said for some/an army/ies to be sent from 58 to 60, but they’re not connected. So, I sent them to 59, also on their way. Hope this was close enough!

HEY, where did Romes Town Halls go?

Battles:

England VS Germania

English troops led by General Cornwallis (hehe), walked into the German area without any resistance. The militia seemed to have has not any cause for fighting.

Losses: 0

Rome VS Libya

The Great Legions of Rome, in all their glory, walked into the desert, feeling only light militia defenses. Forming a double line, side by side, the Roman armies walked from the Medditteranean coast to the boundary of Egyptian land. At some points, the lines seemed to stretch for as long as the eye could see.

Losses: Militia of Libya


Here are some Graphs for the 5th anniversary update (lol). I will, every 5 updates, provide something like this.

How can I do multiple pics in one post?

WOW! good question, Anarchy. Thats wierd, I mut have worked off of an old something. anyways, here is the new update and Rome has 42g to spend.

To Lybia:

Peace will be made IF you give The mighty Romans areas 23, 45, and 25. If not you will be annexed FORCEFULLY.

A Roman newspaper...

Today is a day of great rejoice. Roman Legions, which many say are the finest warriors of the world, annexed a large part of Africa with minimul casuilties. The lybian people were rejoicing with parades and celecrations that they may be part of the mighty Roman Empire. Today a parade is planned for General Chris. ALL HAIL GENERAL CHRIS!

To Rome
From: Libya

Such demands are very impalling! I wish we could have remained friends, and truthfully, do not know why we aren't. But since I am a valuable leader, I know that my troops could never compete against Rome. You may have your provinces peacefully.

To Lybia:

Very good. I am glad that the war ended with little soldiers killed.


OOC/Jason, I am sending u NEW orders/OOC

Why is 62 dark green? did I miss something or what?

On second thought, Germania, perhaps we will join.

To: Babylon
From: Egypt

I am sorry, friend, but my people urge me to join the side opposite of Rome, who has commited a dis-honorable sneak attack against our brothers, Libya. My nation has now opted for a position in the UNU. I hope we can still sign a NAP?

That is Germania, sorry about the colors. All the greens look the same to my eyes! Sorry.

From Babylon
To Egypt

If you leave the leauge of civilised nations, you will have embassed me infront of my freinds. As the nations which invited you I demaned repayments. Either the land know as 79 or 81, of course re-joining the CN will keep us freinds

Jason,why do I only have 14g and am by far the poorest nation in the world?

I come to 21 g (35g taxes-14g upkeep) and I have 1 or 2 triplets I think.

So the true barbarians of the world have shown their colours.

Britain and Germania sort their problems out with a quick bit of diplomacy.

The "civilised" nations do not.

Rome invades a weak country, and for some reason that weak country is foolish enough to give up it's capital without a fight! Doesn't it see it is just making itself easy prey for the vicious Romans?

As for Babylon, their demand of repayment from Egypt is foolish! Why must they pay to change from a bloodthirsty alliance? It is the Romans fault that the Egyptians are leaving - make them pay instead!

Babylon, I will support Egypt if she does not pay, and I am sure all of the UNU will too.

So I suggest you back down.

As for Libya, don't give up your capital so easily! I will try and rally the UNU to your side!

Do not be bullied by a tyrant in Rome, fight him with all your might!

British fleets with "peacekeepers" on will be leaving Britain soon to aid you should there be a need.

Arthur
King of Britain

To Britain

I will not back down to some interfearing nation that needs to get off its high horse and let a problem between two seperate nations become your problem.
If Germania was not your ally you wouldnt be trying to bully country's for trying to expand when you can not.

Also any war between Rome and Lybia should be settle between them.

To Egpyt

Not only do you try to betray us to the UCU you keep on holding troops on the NileDeta.

Firstly, the Egyptians have EVERY right to put troops in the Nile Delta, after all, it is THEIR capital!

I am sure you wouldn't agree to it being undefended if it was YOUR capital, would you? And as it doesn't border your capital, why does it matter to you?

Finally, why do you want them to have few troops in their capital? Is it so you can backstab them as easily as the Romans backstabbed the Libyans?

As for the Libyan matter, it is of deep concern to me. I have been invaded myself by Rome many decades ago, and I will not see it happen to another nation.

The Romans are bullies, and it is about time for the victim to hit back, with a little help from their friends.

King Arthur of the United Kingdom of Great Britain

If I invaded Egpyt would you threaten to "hit back" back at me as well?
Seems to me that you are the bullies. How do we know that germania wasnt bullied into this deal. Seems to me that you couldnt swap so you invaded! Peacefully or not.

To Babylon
From Egypt

We have needed to keep our armies in the capital for an obvious reason-in case you became angry that we have switched to another alliance. I assure you, we dont want war. And you MAY NOT have any of our land. I think you will find yourself overwhelmed if you commint any hostilities. I also urge you to condemn Rome's acts, as he had no right to invade Libya.

Oh, and apparently I thought that 34-10 was 14..lol. Greece has 26g to spend.

Unlike you I support my allies
All romen offenses have my complete support, any action that rome would like me to take would be consided most seriously. Your allies do not worry me.
If you grant me a ROP and a NAP than I think it would help to calm down the tension between us. As fellow Arabs we should stick togeather.
There is a movement in my land which is called the movement of Islam. I myself have become smitten with it. Missionairys are entering your land as well as Lybia and Greece. I hope you will as have I adopt it as your national religion.

Babylon

To grant Babylon a ROP and NAP would be quickly to condemn my brothers, Libya, to death. You shall stay on your land, and I shall stay on mine. Please, do not escalate this conflict to higher levels.

Will you open your lands to my religion? I hope to estabish a league of Islam. This could work with the CN or not.

To The World:

The war with Libya is over. Perhaps it is time you forgot about it. I would hate for another nation to decare war on Rome and face the same punishment as Libya.

To:World
From:Greece

As the conflict between Rome and Lybia has ended we do not wish a new escalated one.But Britain is worrying us a bit with their talks about 'peacekeepers'.Britain has declared the Outer seas to forbidden territory,so we will do the same.If any British ships passes the Strait of Gibraltar we will declare war.
Egypt,you should sign a NAP with Babylon so he doesn't have to worry about your troops in the Nile Delta.But should a new war erupt we will support our Babylonic and Roman friends.

From Babylon
To World

All I want is peace on my borders. is that so wrong. first i have Germania threatening and Britain trying to interfear wih all the worlds problems. What happened to the good old days when a war could be fought without a world war happening?

From Gaul

To Rome :
I urge you to give back any annexed lands !! I won't tolerate the Roman imperialism expanding like before. Give back these lands or war will be declared.

To Spain - Germany and Britain :
I hope you will pressure on Rome. We cannot tolerate a such imperialism and warmonger attitude.

From Gaul

To the CN :
I hope you won't support Rome in her claimings. By supporting Rome, you would show that you are as imperialistic as Caesar is. This fact would worries me veyr much.

A statment to the nation of Gaul


You seek to stop the Romen Imperiol troops from taking back lands formally theirs. While this should have been discussed first this action made sure that Rome did not fade away in the shadow of Germania, Britain and even me.
If you decleare war me and my fellow CN members will protect our own which will cause Britain and Germania interfear and decleare war. This will plunge the whole of europe and more into war.
I suggest a rapid carming down of tension or the following events will occur. The storm will come if you start it.

Rome doesn't own that land, as it was Libyan. It may have formally been hers, but then wasn't most of Europe?

I will stand by my allies. If war comes, let the blood be on your hands, not ours.

Arthur

To Gaul:

Rome WILL not give back the annexed lands. And if you declare war on me, your the agressor,not Rome. That means that my MPP will be activated, not yours. Ifyou wish to plunge Europe into war, then do so. But if you want peace, then stay out of my buisness.

To Rome
From Libya

You were the aggressor to begin with, Ceasar, not anyone else. Britain is only coming to my aid, in which I might need it if you blow your word again and take the rest of my land.

New Rule

*If orders are not sent in on time, I will just bank the gold, not move for you (unless you are on vacation and ask me too, then I have no problem doing it).

OOC- Rev now hold on there boy you just claimed to be islamic four hundred years before muhammed. you are why out of character. Be Zorastrian or Christian. Those two are the dominate ones in that area. in fact if your christian you can claim kin ship with eqypt as it was one of the first christian lands along with armenia. Zorastrian is the Persians.-ooc

Battle of Province 45 Rome vs. Libya
The Roman legion, expecting nothing but hospitality, walked into a Libyan trap. 3 Libyan divisions, hidden under rocks and brush, popped up as the legions walked by in double file. At them end of the slaughter, the victory goes to the Libyans, destroying the invading army of Rome.

Losses Rome: 1 army Libya: 0

Battle of Province 25 Rome vs. Libya
Again, a surprise attack by Libyan forces occurred against the Roman legion. This attack, however, was not as successful. The intensly skilled Roman legion went down, no doubt, but managed to bring down one Libyan army.

Losses Rome: 1 army Libya: 1 army

Battle of Province 23 Rome vs. Libya
The two legions of Rome tried to easily walk into Libyan land, but was harshly rejected. The militia managed to stone one legion to death (hehe), but was killed by the second legion.

losses Rome: 1 army Libya: militia

Battle of Sea K Rome vs. Libya
The only fleet of both nations came into the first sea battle since the Roman imperialism days. The Libyan fleet, hoping to stop anymore invasions from the peninsula, was able to destroy the Roman navy.

Losses Rome: 1 fleet Lybia: 0

Battle of Province 33 Germania vs. Rome
Another surprise attack in Europe. Soldiers upon soldiers, poorly trained due to immediate drafting (not true yet, but might be later ;). UK, maybe you should try something like this in UKNES2 so someone can’t summon an army out of no where), but due to sheer numbers the Germanians destroyed the legion of Rome guarding this area.

Losses Germania: 0 Rome: 1 army

Okay, 6th map update.


Resources are show as:
Wood: white hollow circles
Stone: Filled black squares/rectangles
Grain: Hollow squares/rectangles

Armies:
Black filled circles
Navies:
Nation’s color in shape of a square

Note: Since of Mesopotamia’s dark color ALL ARMIES are shown as gray.

Rome has 61g to spend!

Babylon has 75g to spend!

Greece has 26g to spend!

Britain has 45g to spend!

Spain has 61g to spend!

Gaul has 28g to spend!

Libya has 11g to spend!

Egypt has 36g to spend!

Germania has 34g to spend!


Also, trading is now in affect with some nations that have connections through their territory’s. You may now begin trading, in which you must both agree, then both send me a PM saying with who and what you are trading. Also, note that each resource has a value:
Wood: +1 to fleet defense and offense
Stone: -1 gold from total cost of structures on a turn
Grain: +1 to defense and offense of armies.

Remember, you can have up to three resources that allow you to benefit from it.

Every triplet (1 wood resource, 1 stone resource, and 1 grain resource) gives you an extra 2 gold for your turn. That is another reason why you might want to trade with another nation. There is no limit to the amount of beneficial triplets a nation may have.

Rome quits the NES.

Why?

A number of reasons. The virst one is the Lybian thing is crap. But I dont really have the time to do alotta NESs, soI am gonna just do 1, that being UKNESII.

Anarchy: I think you'll find Rome and Babylon are amongst the richest in Europe, easily strong enough to take on our alliance.

Nemesis

Jason,I didn't order Barracks but Town Squares to be built in 4 provinces,and I again have not 26g,but more.I already had 26g,get 8 more from 4 TS,but only bought 4 units I think,so I have 30g.

To:Germanics
From:Greece

Give back 33 to Romans immediately or we declare war!

Even though we are not entering the war yet I am publicly sending 50 gold for the sole purpose of buliding armies! If rome has any objections to the help just say so. either wat troops are on bored the fleets and on way to assit in the war

To World
From Egypt

It was announced early this morning the ruler of Egypt died in his sleep. His body is already being prepared for mummification, however, I shall take over from where my father left off.

Also, we are now shopping 1 Wood and looking for some Stone in return.


OOC: This is my first NES, so if you see something kind of wrong by me, just let me know.

Hey rangers you should try either UKNES3 or SUPERNES as well, these are just starting so you could learn as the NES is evolving(?)

And this NES surly wont last long (hehe) because of the two, long-awaited NES's just starting. Ohh, Im excited!lol.

I will, however, manage this NES until it officially dies.

I hate to be the first nail in the coffin but these two look very hard to keep up with, therefore i can not contunie with this NES. I wish JNES all the best

bye!

From Gaul

To Germany :
Dear friend
I don't we should destroy Rome but only push pressure on Caesar in order he gives back all the Lybian's lands. I will invade Rome but I will retire all the annexed provinces as soon as Rome retires from Lybian's lands. i hope you will do the same because we have no interests in annexing these lands.

To Rome :
Dear Caesar
You can see that you will be overwhelmed by our forces. Return all annexed lands to Lybia. Do it now for your own safety. I won't take Rome but I can't refrain Germany to do it. As soon as you retires your forces from Lybia, I will retire my forces from your lands.

Damn, don't everyone start quitting! I love this NES!

And that's not just cause Britain is damned powerful lol...

Nemesis

Yes, long live to this NES !!

To Rome
From Germania
To the Imperialist Romans. Give up your claims to lybian lands or my forces will be force to sack Rome again. You and i both know you do not want me to sack Rome some give up your claims to Lybian lands now or face the consiquences.

PS- i offered you a place in my alliance long ago you should have excepted.

OOC-
To Jason could you please move those armies of mine in 59 to 54 like my orders said. i am more afraid of the Babs forces then i am of Romes.
-OOC

to Spain and France.
My allies please continue to pressure the romans into giving up lybian lands. and if you could help me to sack rome if they do not do this.

OOC- i ain't leaven till yall kill me so long live the Germans and this nes.

OOC wonderful,I'm the only CN nation still playing.Hey,can't I take control of Rome and Babylon as well? OOC

OOC yea your welcome to Babylon


In a reading of the Babylon's king will showed that Kennelly rular of the Greeks is to inherit the empire of Babylon, the will stated that Kennelly was like a son to him.

Wow, so your quiting, Rev?

Demtrias, first off you cant move from 59 to 54 in one turn, and plus there are no armies in 59! I think you may of had a "type-o", cus in your orders you wrote :

one army in move to 54

LOL, I did't know what army you wanted moved, so I dont think I moved an army! lol. If you want to tell me which one, I will be happy to change it for you.

And Kennelly: My apologies again. I don't think I should be running an NES :( every update there is something wrong that I did. You have 37 to spend.


Next update, I plan for NOTHING to be wrong!

OOC Rev,did you still send orders in or do I have to?Jason,can I act and order in Babylon's name? OOC

...........I don't know what to do about this....Normally, the unmaned civilization goes to me to control, not another player. I don't think that can happen. Allow me to think about it for a while.

OOC : I think that a player that controls 2 nations would be too strong, especially Babylon. Jason, you should take control of it for game's balance.

the four armies in 60 move to 54
one army in move to 54

Ya i see the typo that was so post to be move one army in 61 to 54 but the real problem was the four armies you move to 57 that were supposed to go to 54.

Ok, I will change it. Here is the final map:

is anyone going to even bother with this NES, or should I update the map?

Sorry man, been rushed off my feet.

Anyway, continue to update so long as you have orders in! I'm looking forward to seeing how powerful Britain is...

Nemesis

Ya i am with Nemesis keep it up and running tell it dies of its own accord. If nothing else me and UK can fight it out just for the fun of it.

Ok, update will be soon

I hope everyone will still play after I worke don this update! LOL.

Okay, 7th map update.


Resources are show as:
Wood: white hollow circles
Stone: Filled black squares/rectangles
Grain: Hollow squares/rectangles

Armies:
Black filled circles
Navies:
Nation’s color in shape of a square

Note: Since of Mesopotamia’s dark color ALL ARMIES are shown as gray.

Rome has 16g to spend!

Babylon has 113g to spend!

Greece has 27g to spend!

Britain has 42g to spend!

Spain has 77g to spend!

Gaul has 59g to spend!

Libya has 20g to spend!

Egypt has 40g to spend!

Germania has 32g to spend!


Also, trading is now in affect with some nations that have connections through their territory’s. You may now begin trading, in which you must both agree, then both send me a PM saying with who and what you are trading. Also, note that each resource has a value:
Wood: +1 to fleet defense and offense
Stone: -1 gold from total cost of structures on a turn
Grain: +1 to defense and offense of armies.

Remember, you can have up to three resources that allow you to benefit from it.

Every triplet (1 wood resource, 1 stone resource, and 1 grain resource) gives you an extra 2 gold for your turn. That is another reason why you might want to trade with another nation. There is no limit to the amount of beneficial triplets a nation may have.

Battles

Province 55 (Greece) vs. Province 56 (Germania

The Surprise attack proved fatal, and the Hoplites suffered minor losses in the attack.

Losses: Germania 1 army, Greece O

Province 33 (Germania) vs. Province 31 (Rome)

The second attack by the Germans proved not as successful as the one before. The well-trained legion that was guarding the peninsula was able to take 2 German armies down.
The legion did not leave the town square until the last of the structure was depleted.

Losses: Germania 2 armies, Rome: 1 army and town square

Province 30 (Roman) vs. Province 32 (Gaul)

The largest attack to have ever taken place in Europe, Rome counter attacked France in their own land. 3 legions were lost in the attack, but 7 French armies were destroyed.

Losses: Rome: 3 armies, Gaul: 7 armies


The Roman forces were forced out of Libya by overwhelming forces.

I'm also still playing,so two UNU and 1 CN player playing.If this should continue,I think Jason should attack with Babylon in the East as Rev surely would have done.

Skilord should be still playing Spain, when he gets back, and we have ranger playing Egypt. Last turn, I got orders from the following:

Gaul, Greece, Britain, Germania and Egypt. Spain will, hopefully, still be playing when he gets back. From this point on, every nation besides Rome, Spain, and maybe babylon will have their treasuries banked until someone takes the riegns.

Nice job JASON!

I have to go so i can't do orders.

bye .

Is there no more diplomacy or talks? IS the game going to just be from orders to orders? Ok, whatever you guys want. Also, I will speak on behalf of Rome and Babylon.

It's time for war,not talking! :ar15:

Anyways,

to:Gaul+Britain
I suggest you stay out of the war or help me against the barbarians.

To Rome
From Germania
Yes of course we can still talk i am will to let you continue to hold those lands you currently hold and to sign a peace agreement. i also incourage my allies to do the same.

To Greece
Leave my land at once trust me you do not want to see the wrath of germania decend apon you so leave now while you still can.

To Babylon
i recommend you stay out of the fight with greece. It is but to turns for my army to reach and sack your capitol.

To Brittian.
If Babylon interfers in my war against the greeks i would ask that you take 71.

ooc - where is my barracks in 40. Oh jason remove the ts and put it in 62 then.

Spain Goes to war!

I move once and then give control back to jason.

From Rome

To Nations at war:

Rome has lost her Libyian colonies. Please, I ask for peace.

Anyone else gonna give orders besides Kennelly and Uk?

I sent orders!

they were vauge but they were sent.

My dear British Freinds.

Please help the truely civilized nations of this earth against the Greeks. Our war is just and your help appreciated would be.
Size matters not my freind.....

Ya... Im gonna shut this down. I only got like 3 orders in, and its been around 3 days. Darn you UKNES3 and SUPERNES! lol. Anyways, anyways, this NES is CLOSED. :(