This is ridiculous. I'm playing a deity game, and even though I'm fairly behind in almost everything, I have GREAT relations with Cathy, who's the biggest and strongest civ. I'm +16 with her, and hoping to get a permanent alliance soon. :) Then one year she comes and asks me to help her fight against the English. Of course, I agree. But after that, I see a RED "-1 You declared war on our friend!" on her diplomacy screen! What the heck?!?! Either I agree to join her in her war and get knocked for declaring war on her "friend" or I refuse and get knocked for not helping her during war time! Is this a bug, or is this what's supposed to happen???

Haven't you seen all those teen flicks?
Girl 1 hates other girl for dating her guy,
and gets other guy to harass her.
Girl 1 pretends to be friends in public,
and secretly curses her in secret.

Lol, to be serious, that kinda sucks, but hey -1 isn't game breaking, i think she'll accept the Perm alliance

lol, you've got a point...

so, since my last post, I've been waiting for Cathy to declare peace with the English so I could ask her for a defensive pact (one step closer to permanent alliance), but she just wouldn't stop fighting. And then, suddenly, out of the blue, she asks me for a permanent alliance! I have no idea why, since I'm basically #10 in rankings and she's #1. Anyway, now I've been slingshot-ed to the industrial era and have 6 new resources! :)

That's women for you. No matter what you do, you're doing something wrong.

That's women for you. No matter what you do, you're doing something wrong.

And if that something is playing civ, you're DEFINITELY doing something wrong! :lol:

Bhruic's patch fixes this.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=246057

And I find it very weird that Catherine would still be pleased with any of the english civs during a war since their peaceweights are so different.

Thanks for the link, BB. But I already have the 3.13 patch from the Firaxis site installed, which I got from here:

http://www.firaxis.com/games/downloads.php

Is Bhruic's patch different, even though they both say 3.1.3? I noticed that Bhruic's patch is "unofficial" whereas the one from Firaxis's site, I assume, is official, so I suppose they could be different.

Anyway, is it just me, or is it a lot easier to maintain Pleased or Friendly relations with other civs in BtS? I remember having a much harder time in Warlords. Or maybe it's just because in my past few games almost every civ was the same religion.

Thanks for the link, BB. But I already have the 3.13 patch from the Firaxis site installed, which I got from here:

http://www.firaxis.com/games/downloads.php


Yep, that's your problem


Is Bhruic's patch different, even though they both say 3.1.3? I noticed that Bhruic's patch is "unofficial" whereas the one from Firaxis's site, I assume, is official, so I suppose they could be different.


It's different in that it fixes all of the chronic bugs and stuffups enjoyed in the 3.13 patch.

The game is pretty much broken without it. example/ You create a colony and it will take over the 'slot' of a civ previously eliminated from the game. Gets all their old culture and all their old diplomatic relations. That might include being at war with the most powerful civ in the game, and since you're its master now you're at war with the powerful civ too! :lol:

That's just one out of the multitudes of things it fixes.

You use Bhruic's patch in addition to the official 3.13 patch. It fixes the problems the 3.13 patch introduces.

Thanks for the clarification. :)

That's women for you. No matter what you do, you're doing something wrong.

When dealing with women, a man may be right or he may be happy. But never both. :mischief:

When dealing with women, a man may be right or he may be happy. But never both. :mischief:

Sounds like an Al Bundy or Homer Simpson quote. :D

Sounds like an Al Bundy or Homer Simpson quote. :D

Probably. I read it somewhere but it's held true. Dealing with the lady during an Iraq deployment, an Afghanistan deployment, and a pending Iraq redeployment testify to this.