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Jimmyballz Apr 11, 2008, 11:42 AM -Download Version 2-
Benito Mussolini (by Ekmek)- Charismatic, Expansive (Police State)
Giuseppe Garibaldi (by Ekmek) - Philosophical, Charismatic (Nationhood)
UU's:
Alpini (Rifleman) - Guerilla I & Guerilla II
Mangusta (Gunship) - Sentry & Ambush
UB:
Football Stadium (Colosseum)- +2 :), + 1 :culture:
-Version 2 Football Stadium- (by KrugerPritz)
Changed the Football Stadium by dropping one happiness from 3-2 (to offset charismatic bonus), and adding 1 culture.
More accurate Mussolini (custom xml below, the rest is from Shaka)<FavoriteCivic>CIVIC_POLICE_STATE</FavoriteCivic>
<FavoriteReligion>NONE</FavoriteReligion>
<Traits>
<Trait>
<TraitType>TRAIT_CHARISMATIC</TraitType>
<bTrait>1</bTrait>
</Trait>
<Trait>
<TraitType>TRAIT_EXPANSIVE</TraitType>
<bTrait>1</bTrait>
</Trait>
</Traits>
<Flavors>
<Flavor>
<FlavorType>FLAVOR_MILITARY</FlavorType>
<iFlavor>5</iFlavor>
</Flavor>
<Flavor>
<FlavorType>FLAVOR_GROWTH</FlavorType>
<iFlavor>2</iFlavor>
</Flavor>
</Flavors>& Garibaldi (custom below, rest from Lincoln)<FavoriteCivic>CIVIC_NATIONHOOD</FavoriteCivic>
<FavoriteReligion>RELIGION_CHRISTIANITY</FavoriteReligion>
<Traits>
<Trait>
<TraitType>TRAIT_PHILOSOPHICAL</TraitType>
<bTrait>1</bTrait>
</Trait>
<Trait>
<TraitType>TRAIT_CHARISMATIC</TraitType>
<bTrait>1</bTrait>
</Trait>
</Traits>
<Flavors>
<Flavor>
<FlavorType>FLAVOR_CULTURE</FlavorType>
<iFlavor>5</iFlavor>
</Flavor>
<Flavor>
<FlavorType>FLAVOR_MILITARY</FlavorType>
<iFlavor>2</iFlavor>
</Flavor>Added 10 more cities (40 total)
<Cities>
<City>Rome</City>
<City>Milan</City>
<City>Naples</City>
<City>Turin</City>
<City>Palermo</City>
<City>Venice</City>
<City>Genoa</City>
<City>Florence</City>
<City>Bologna</City>
<City>Bari</City>
<City>Catania</City>
<City>Verona</City>
<City>Parma</City>
<City>Livorno</City>
<City>Cagliari</City>
<City>Foggia</City>
<City>Salerno</City>
<City>Forli</City>
<City>Pisa</City>
<City>Asti</City>
<City>Messina</City>
<City>Trieste</City>
<City>Prato</City>
<City>Vicenza</City>
<City>Brescia</City>
<City>Modena</City>
<City>Padua</City>
<City>Siracusa</City>
<City>Ferrara</City>
<City>Novara</City>
<City>Taranto</City>
<City>Perugia</City>
<City>Latina</City>
<City>Bergamo</City>
<City>Pescara</City>
<City>Monza</City>
<City>Sassari</City>
<City>Rimini</City>
<City>Terni</City>
<City>Vittoria</City>
</Cities>
Much credit & thanks to Ekmek, mourdraken & C.Roland for their Mussolini Leaderhead. & Ekmek again for Garibaldi. Also thanks to KrugerPritz for the updated Football Stadium.
Jimmyballz Apr 11, 2008, 11:44 AM The screenshots are below..
:king:
Jimmyballz Apr 11, 2008, 11:45 AM Here is the "classic" Version1 Italian Empire:
Jimmyballz Apr 11, 2008, 02:13 PM I played the game all the way through with this mod and found no glitches -
Here are some references for the UU's:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpini
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agusta_A129_Mangusta
Go Italy!!!
Ekmek Apr 11, 2008, 05:43 PM Is chugginator still working on a 3D Mussolini leaderhead?
Jimmyballz Apr 11, 2008, 06:22 PM havent seen it anywhere. ekmek your idi amin 3d leaderhead is awesome- that looks like it would make a good mussolini leaderhead imo..
Ekmek Apr 11, 2008, 06:40 PM I was going to work on mussolini but someone said chuggi had an awesome one in works so I didn't even start.
You did a great job on this civ but I have a compulsive need to see 3D leaderheads with new civs :)
Jimmyballz Apr 12, 2008, 11:15 AM I know what you mean with the 3d leaderhead thing..
if you find (or create) a 3d leaderhead i'll put it in, np
NikNaks Apr 13, 2008, 04:51 AM Nice one, Jimmy!
I was going to work on mussolini but someone said chuggi had an awesome one in works so I didn't even start.He started one but had some serious rigging problems so he stopped.
KrugerPritz Apr 17, 2008, 06:36 AM With this textures and Zerver units, You could have italian modern units.
Sorry cause i have only an evaluate winzip, so you have to transform the files in dds.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=6448741#post6448741
p.s. I quote compulsevely for new 3d leaders too!!! :crazyeye:
Jimmyballz Apr 17, 2008, 08:40 PM With this textures and Zerver units, You could have italian modern units.
Sorry cause i have only an evaluate winzip, so you have to transform the files in dds.
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=6448741#post6448741
p.s. I quote compulsevely for new 3d leaders too!!! :crazyeye:
very helpful :)
which are best modern Italian units to use with these?..
can someone plz make a 3d mussolini & garibaldi :lol:
KrugerPritz Apr 18, 2008, 03:14 PM very helpful :)
which are best modern Italian units to use with these?..
can someone plz make a 3d mussolini & garibaldi :lol:
Ok this was the camo used by the Army in Somaliland "Restore Hope" operation and Mozambico Onu expedition. The troops sent were "lagunari" (similar to marines but an army speciality and not of the navy, that uses the San Marco battalion) they were engaged in the "Bridges battle" in Bagdad.
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagunari
the paratroopers
http://www.esercito.difesa.it/root/unita_sez/unita_Brig_folgore.asp
the "alpini"
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpini
and "bersaglieri" (wich distinguish themselves for the plumes on the helmet).
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bersaglieri
The operation dress is similar for all of them
Now the new camo is a digital one as other modern forces are using (Usa, German...) But I like the Somaliland-used one.
For the 3d Mussolini there's one in progress by Ekmek
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=271863
They are working in team and are reaching very good results:
http://img182.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mussosk5.jpg
krugerPritz
Jimmyballz Apr 19, 2008, 12:02 AM Yea!! Ekmek and the others are really coming along with this...
KrugerPritz Apr 19, 2008, 01:55 AM The same camo was used in Iraq (operation Ancient Babylon)... this a photo of a Lagunare (laguna=lagoon - lagunari=lagoonar troops - specialized to defend Venice Lagoon)
source: http://www.associazionelagunari.it/
The Bridges's battle was in Nassyria not in bagdad
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6pvY5m82mw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hpu3dJNCK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvgJEvgRCGA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of4N9KtfycE
Also the "brigata Sassari" a famous Sardinian infantry brigade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duUfDnsOkxk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6ATSEP2zGc but in this video You can see also the Lagunari with they caracteristic coat-of-arms red and yellow... after turned for operations in a more camo green and black :-) and Col. Moschin special forces, the Carabinieri and the San Marco batalion, the Cavalry with the centauro blindo...
Lagunari in Lebanon with the new digital camo. U.N. mission.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeRYrR5jx-U
A special honour to the Bersaglieri Fanfara (It's very difficult to run and play music i think) even if we (I was a Lagunare) often joke about their plumes :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0kBETseDmQ
And also Italian special forces Col.Moschin (Army paratroop incursors) and ComSubIn (commando subacqueo incursori - Navy commando underwater incursors..."? incursion-raid ?")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAENImHdVP8
KrugerPritz Apr 19, 2008, 05:30 AM paratroopers
Jimmyballz Apr 19, 2008, 09:43 AM ok good start with your skins :goodjob:
i'm thinking that your marine_128 skin could be used for Lagunari, which will replace the marine (amphibious promotion)
Although modern alpini wear camo, the alpini replace the rifleman, which is an early gunpowder unit. many of the alpini pics around WWI-WWII they have solid green, so im hesitant on changing the alpini to camo. any others...infantry...?
- thx KrugerPritz!!!
KrugerPritz Apr 19, 2008, 07:27 PM ok good start with your skins :goodjob:
i'm thinking that your marine_128 skin could be used for Lagunari, which will replace the marine (amphibious promotion)
Although modern alpini wear camo, the alpini replace the rifleman, which is an early gunpowder unit. many of the alpini pics around WWI-WWII they have solid green, so im hesitant on changing the alpini to camo. any others...infantry...?
alpini, mangusta, and Lagunari so far... thx KrugerPritz!!!
thanks!
I've used it for the Lagunari and for the modern partrooper of Zerver.
There are also a wonderful WWI infantry pack, including italians, made by seZereth:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=270623
KrugerPritz Apr 19, 2008, 07:52 PM Submarine made by The_coyote
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=9217
the antitank destroyer Centauro made by Charmaedrys
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=237429&highlight=centauro but is now giving Error file not found
The WWII BB Littorio made by GeneralMatt
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=8700
The fighter Breda ba65
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=8666 and
The Campini Caproni early jet fighter by asioasioasio
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=4379
there is also the ww2 tank m13-40 but i can't find the link, maybe is only inside any mod, i found it inside Regiment and ethnic diversity mod by Gedemon, where it is also the ww2 italian bomber
KrugerPritz Apr 21, 2008, 04:51 PM But I have also to show You modern Alpini in white camo :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCjebYA4-Yk
KrugerPritz Apr 21, 2008, 05:05 PM Oops but I've forgotten one of the BEST italian troops: the Alpini paratroopers... they launch between the mountains!!! :eek: MAI STRACKI (northern dialect= NEVER TIRED)!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piEwRrXxWKs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89KYc_2nrJw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDS9SQaCc_c
Jimmyballz Apr 21, 2008, 09:18 PM But I have also to show You modern Alpini in white camo :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCjebYA4-Yk
yes, i was thinking of making a snow alpini unit lol
Jimmyballz Apr 21, 2008, 09:18 PM also, what do you think of the Carabinieri?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carabinieri
Jimmyballz Apr 21, 2008, 09:19 PM I got it from this thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=142970&page=5
Pretty decent skin, especially after throttle made the pants darker..
this special ops unit more specialized than lagunari?
KrugerPritz Apr 22, 2008, 05:47 AM I got it from this thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=142970&page=5
Pretty decent skin, especially after throttle made the pants darker..
this special ops unit more specialized than lagunari?
I think that Carabinieri are quite representative of Italy. Are sure more known than Lagunari (Also in Italy they often are been confused with San Marco Battalion of the Navy). It's been a little of years The Carabinieri don't depend anymore from the Army and are transformed in the 4^ armed force (army, navy, airforce and Carabinieri). They have groups very high specialized and were in all international missions.
Sure Lagunari are more specialized than Carabinieri in Anphibious operations (Carabinieri don't make it) and it's a strange thing of Italy: 2 anphibious corps, one of the Army (Lagunari based in Venice north Italy) and one of the Navy (San Marco Battalion - that now is a regiment http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battaglione_San_Marco based in Taranto south Italy). The specialization of the Lagunari is Lagoon defense and maybe They would be better in the Venitian civ. :D
KrugerPritz Apr 22, 2008, 06:05 AM I think that Throttle's Carabinieri is a good one, but I'd prefer with another rifle, as M16 and g3 are more similar to Ar 70 Beretta than Kalashnikov :D
http://www.ar15.com/weaponLibrary/index.html?wc=9&w=34
I like also that red stripe (but in reality they don't have in the operational uniform) :-)
Jimmyballz Apr 28, 2008, 01:06 PM The specialization of the Lagunari is Lagoon defense and maybe They would be better in the Venitian civ. :D
Maybe so.. Was just playing around with this, using your Marine_128 Italian Camo for the Lagunari. looks good!! :goodjob: Oh yea, some article i read stated that the Carabinieri are considered military police..?
Still waiting for the "final" Mussolini 3D leaderhead
KrugerPritz Apr 29, 2008, 11:28 AM some article i read stated that the Carabinieri are considered military police..?
Still waiting for the "final" Mussolini 3D leaderhead I'm waiting too, anyway is already playable and I using this not final version of Mussolini.
Carabinieri is an old corp of the Piemontese army that had function of police, similar to french Gendarmerie. So they have double function of police and militar police. They have a capillary distribuition in the territory. But for the civilian police function they are under the control of "Prefetto" (and his arm in the territory: the "questore" the chief of civilian police in the province) that represents the State in the italian provinces and directly dipends on the Internal Affairs Minister. So for these functions, pratically, they depends on the civilian police "Polizia di Stato" (State Police). Excuse me for repetitions, my vocabulary is not so rich and often I have to consult my dictionary! :)
In Italy, we usually complicate the things! :rolleyes: So we have 2 anphibious corps, 2 principal polices, a police of the Financial Minister "Guardia di Finanza" (those in grey uniform) and so on...
onedreamer May 01, 2008, 03:37 AM Carabinieri are part of the army and are integrated in it. In the army they have also the marginal function of military police; they will take part in the homeland defense as well as missions abroad. As a police they have the ordinary role of public security etc. IE they investigate and take action against criminal organizations etc.
Then there is State Police which has a wide variety of roles. Patrolling streets, controlling immigration, and pretty much all that you'd expect Police to do.
Then there is Municipal Police whose role is controlling urban traffic. IE they spend the day creating traffic jams and placing tickets on cars not well parked, in order to fund the Town/City (they are a sort of tax collectors :P j/k)
PS: Garibaldi is not a Civ Leader. Please.
KrugerPritz May 01, 2008, 04:32 AM Carabinieri are part of the army and are integrated in it. In the army they have also the marginal function of military police; they will take part in the homeland defense as well as missions abroad. As a police they have the ordinary role of public security etc. IE they investigate and take action against criminal organizations etc.
Then there is State Police which has a wide variety of roles. Patrolling streets, controlling immigration, and pretty much all that you'd expect Police to do.
Then there is Municipal Police whose role is controlling urban traffic. IE they spend the day creating traffic jams and placing tickets on cars not well parked, in order to fund the Town/City (they are a sort of tax collectors :P j/k)
PS: Garibaldi is not a Civ Leader. Please.
Yes, but they are no more a part of the army, now they are an independent force, as navy, army and air force...
Municipal Police, now called Local Police, are indeed Tax Collectors cause they use the eletronic velocity control only when the City needs money!!! :mischief: :lol:
Jimmyballz May 01, 2008, 08:31 AM Garibaldi is not a Civ Leader. Please.
Hahahaa, dont worry- as soon as Mussolini's 3D leaderhead is finished Garibaldi is out!!
I thought long and hard about Garibaldi, he seemed to influence more people that Vittorio II and III. Although "Kings", they didnt seem to have all that much leadership?!? :confused:
Jimmyballz May 09, 2008, 11:00 PM Patiently waiting for final 3D Mussolini version to be released!!:mischief:
I can see it now...
Mussolini- Charismatic, Expanisve (Police State)
UU's:
Alpini (rifleman) - Guerilla I & Guerilla II
Mangusta (gunship) - Sentry & Ambush
UB:
Football Stadium- +2 :), + 1 :culture:
MUCH better 3D Mussolini, with accurate traits. (copied Montezuma's .xml & changed traits)
Changed the Football Stadium by dropping one happiness from 3-2 (to offset charismatic bonus). To make up for this, I added 1 culture.
I think that an extra culture would be reflective of Football in Italy.
Suggestions are welcome if you think I'm off the mark, but I think its pretty accurate. I love WW2 CIV & need the Moose in with the rest of the gang.
Ekmek May 09, 2008, 11:16 PM Patiently waiting for final 3D Mussolini version to be released!!:mischief:
tell me about it...:mad:
mnlg May 13, 2008, 01:46 PM yay!
I was wondering about how to create an Italian civ and I am glad it already exists!
I agree with the choices expressed above. Alpini is a good choice, I think Bersaglieri could also be... I thought one of them could replace Infantry and the other Riflemen. Carabinieri could perhaps replace Cavalry but the link would be a bit weaker. The Lagunari could theoretically replace Marines, but even though I live in Venice, and with no offense to the Lagunari around here, I'm not sure the comparison holds...
As for UB, I was thinking about a replacement for the Theater, something like the Scala of Milan or Venice's Fenice, giving perhaps Great Person points (pretty much like the roman Forum).
As for Leaders, I think I would like to see Camillo Benso Conte di Cavour (Cavour for short), who was instrumental for Italy's unification; I was thinking of Financial, Organized, but I'm open to suggestions.
Other possible leaders could be Enrico De Nicola (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_De_Nicola) (the first president of the republic) and Alcide de Gasperi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcide_De_Gasperi) (one among the most famous prime ministers). They are both post-WWII, though.
As for its symbol, to follow suit with CIV4's approach, I think a flag would break the pattern, but there are just not many coat of arms or emblems for Italy. This (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Italy-Emblem.svg) is post-WWII, while this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/Presidential_flag_of_Italy.svg) is the presidential flag. The coat of arms of the Kingdom of Italy (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cc/Coat_of_Arms_of_the_Kigdom_of_Italy_%281870%29.svg ) is way too complex. I'd rather like to see something more essential; the Star is said to have been a symbol for Italy since its insurrection in the 19th century, but the American Empire already has a star. I'm out of ideas...
I would appreciate if this civ could be made compatible with "History in the Making" (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=6815582#post6815582). Basically it requires 2 UU and 2 UB, and a few other tweakings according to the other patches that it has incorporated (e.g., great person names relative to the civ itself; I have no idea about great spies, all the rest should be fairly easy to find)
Thank you again for your work!
GOBLES May 15, 2008, 05:41 PM Come on...it's been weeks, when will 3d head be ready?
Ekmek May 15, 2008, 06:10 PM mourndraken has fallen off. I may have to give it a go but my skinning sucks.
Jimmyballz May 15, 2008, 07:40 PM mourndraken has fallen off. I may have to give it a go but my skinning sucks.
Very sorry to hear that:(...
Is there anyone else you can assign it to?? (before you attempt)
-jb
GOBLES May 16, 2008, 12:46 PM what about bernie or garretz?
GOBLES May 20, 2008, 09:33 PM still waiting for a proper Mussolini
Ekmek May 21, 2008, 05:00 PM version 2
Fixed up the uniform. added medals, added more to the hat.
the best I could do
Download version 2 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=9243)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads/civ4screenshot0039_240.jpg
Jimmyballz May 25, 2008, 08:23 PM Yay!! -Great LH!!:king:
...Phew!!! Version 2 is finally finished and now I can start playing some more civ :lol:
I played it all the way through. There shouldnt be any bugs. :scan:
GOBLES May 25, 2008, 09:43 PM Finally! same here Jimmyballz, I complete stop playing cause I wanted Italy...
Ekmek May 26, 2008, 12:26 PM GG is looking good but brennus's cape seems to be unhooked so it breaks up. I'm working it.
edit:removed attachment
Ekmek May 26, 2008, 01:24 PM Ok I fixed it. Here's a 3D Garibaldi. I'm not going to release in the graphic mod packs. So just set up the art defines and add it to your mod. Jimmy let me know when you have it so I can remove it ffrom my uploads. Its based off of Mehmed.
Jimmyballz May 26, 2008, 01:31 PM there's "The Sword," looking like when he was in his prime!!
I'll add him asap
Jimmyballz May 26, 2008, 01:39 PM Anyone have any idea what his traits should be??
PHI/???
Fav Civic - Nationhood
Fav Religion - Christianity
Ekmek May 26, 2008, 01:44 PM PHI/AGG? i think that would work
Hian the Frog May 26, 2008, 01:47 PM Are the football stadium really accurate ? Giving some happiness bonus, i agree. It should give also a maintenance cost. Italian Football is very policemen consuming, corrupted... Nevertheless, i like the idea of adding such a building.
mnlg May 26, 2008, 01:47 PM I would go for Philosophical/Charismatic
Jimmyballz May 26, 2008, 02:12 PM Are the football stadium really accurate ? Giving some happiness bonus, i agree. It should give also a maintenance cost. Italian Football is very policemen consuming, corrupted... Nevertheless, i like the idea of adding such a building.
Glad you like the idea.
Are you saying to drop the culture? And when talking about a maintenance cost, it wouldn't be good UU if it has (-:gold:)!!
Jimmyballz May 26, 2008, 02:16 PM I would go for Philosophical/Charismatic
thats what I had at 1st. Moose's Charismatic would override it (unless have 2 charismatic LH's).
I am on the fence with this one...
PHI
CHA
AGG
CRE
PRO
would all work imo
mnlg May 26, 2008, 03:09 PM I think CHA is what portrays him the best. He was a very effective military man, but I wouldn't say he was aggressive, perhaps more like cunning. Protective could be a good pick, or even organized giving his effectiveness with limited resources.
KrugerPritz May 27, 2008, 07:45 AM I think CHA is what portrays him the best. He was a very effective military man, but I wouldn't say he was aggressive, perhaps more like cunning. Protective could be a good pick, or even organized giving his effectiveness with limited resources. He was a true general like not much we had in Italy, without being a regular one!
KrugerPritz May 27, 2008, 01:40 PM I don't know what effects give to game the traits of a leader... but I could say some of his history. At first He was a revolutionary of the Giovine Italia (Young Italy) movement of Mazzini. Cause the Genova insurrection of 1834 failed he was condemned to death in judgement by default. So he ran away in South America where struggled in Brasil for Rio Grande do Sul independence. After for defense of Montevideo and Uruguay against the Argentina's dictator. After have been a sailor of Tunis pirate fleet. Reading an internet biography about Garibaldi, i'm knowing now that in S.America he wasn't right an hero.
It was in this period that he bacame a Freemason. When He came in Italy to fight in the few revolutionary motions. He went in Rome where many fremasons were coming and where Garibaldi and Mazzini declared the Rome's Repubblic. The Pope asked the help of The Catholics Kingdoms to return to the Throne of Rome...
Wow guys, his biography is very large... for sure he was an ADVENTURER http://cronologia.leonardo.it/storia/biografie/garibal2.htm And didn't disdain many bandit's actions.
Ekmek May 27, 2008, 02:17 PM Much credit & thanks to Emkek, mourdraken & C.Roland for their Mussolini Leaderhead. & Ekmek again for Garibaldi
who the hell is "Emkek"? :lol:
Jimmy,
if you look at my venetian mod I have a set up for custom traits. you can mess around with something like that to make these leaders more unique for your mod
Jimmyballz May 27, 2008, 02:42 PM who the hell is "Emkek"? :lol:
Whoops!!!:eek:
Jimmy,
if you look at my venetian mod I have a set up for custom traits. you can mess around with something like that to make these leaders more unique for your mod
Sky's the limit apparently. I have some thinking to do now..:salute:
Hian the Frog May 28, 2008, 10:39 AM Glad you like the idea.
Are you saying to drop the culture? And when talking about a maintenance cost, it wouldn't be good UU if it has (-:gold:)!!
Hi,
I only say that this UB would be better like this:
- +2 happy faces
- +1 culture per turn
- +5% maintenance cost (a malus in fact)
Just a personnal opinion. ;)
Quilbo May 28, 2008, 05:40 PM When there will be version 2.0? (la aspetto con ansia! :D)
Jimmyballz May 29, 2008, 08:43 PM When there will be version 2.0? (la aspetto con ansia! :D)
It's ready now. :)
I adjusted Garibaldi's flavors a bit, too.
mnlg Jun 08, 2008, 11:15 AM I apologize in advance in case this is a newbie question, but, is there any way to make this civ modular, so that I can "plug" it in other modules? I have used the Venetian Republic (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=6900956) civ with another module and it works fine, but I don't know whether I can just set something in the ini file or if it requires a rehaul of the whole civ.
Thank you.
Jimmyballz Jun 08, 2008, 01:14 PM Are the football stadium really accurate ?
Italy is the current holder of the World Cup :trophy2:, until 2010:p. They also have more World Cups than anyone but Brazil. Those are a couple of reasons to include the Football Stadium, I also think the happiness works in conjunction with both leader's CHA traits. The culture goes with Garibaldi's flavors a little, too (I think this would mainly apply to Garibaldi's AI).
Jimmyballz Jun 08, 2008, 01:43 PM I apologize in advance in case this is a newbie question, but, is there any way to make this civ modular, so that I can "plug" it in other modules? I have used the Venetian Republic (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?p=6900956) civ with another module and it works fine, but I don't know whether I can just set something in the ini file or if it requires a rehaul of the whole civ.
Thank you.
Yes, it would require a complete rehaul (Sorry, but I uploaded it as a playable mod) But it shouldn't take that long.:) The xml's should work as is...(cut & paste only), and simply move the appropriate art and sound folders into your mod, ofc
XML - some are in alphabetical (or some other) order to conform to the game, so you will have to scroll a bit or Ctrl+F to locate them within each xml file. They are: [ArtDefines_Buildings(stadium), ArtDefines_Units(alpini, mangusta), BuildingInfos(stadium), LeaderHeadInfos(mussolini, garibaldi), UnitInfos(alpini, mangusta)]
All others should be very easy to see, at the very top of each xml file.
Ekmek Jun 08, 2008, 07:34 PM jimmy,
if anything you can use my veetian mod as a template for making this modular
Jimmyballz Jun 09, 2008, 12:31 PM Alright, cool. Just one (noob) question... Whats the difference between a modpack & a new civilization? Is a modpack just excluding all that misc., unchanged XML?
Ekmek Jun 09, 2008, 05:49 PM the modpack section is for mods that add civs and new units, maps code etc. Its kind of gray but I think if its 2 or more civs its a modpack :dunno:
FYI the differrence between modular and the regular xml mods is that you don't need to include all the standard game stuff but you do need the schema.xmls there and in the top of the infos.xml you have to make sure the file name there matches the schema in the folder.
nedflanders02 Jun 10, 2008, 12:35 PM Italy, hazaa!
How would I got about putting Italy and dwolf Germany mod together?
Jimmyballz Jun 10, 2008, 01:10 PM ned,
Like I told mnlg at the top of this page, it would require a complete rehaul (Sorry, but I uploaded it as a playable mod) But it shouldn't take that long. The xml's should work as is...(cut & paste only), and simply move the appropriate art and sound folders into your mod, ofc
XML - some are in alphabetical (or some other) order to conform to the game, so you will have to scroll a bit or Ctrl+F to locate them within each xml file. They are: [ArtDefines_Buildings(stadium), ArtDefines_Units(alpini, mangusta), BuildingInfos(stadium), LeaderHeadInfos(mussolini, garibaldi), UnitInfos(alpini, mangusta)]
All others should be very easy to see, at the very top of each xml file.
I combined DWOLFs with mine, as well as many other mods/LH's.:)
nedflanders02 Jun 10, 2008, 01:53 PM Thanks for the reply Jimmy,
I will try and combine both mods and I'll see what happens. :)
Jimmyballz Jun 10, 2008, 02:02 PM FYI the differrence between modular and the regular xml mods is that you don't need to include all the standard game stuff but you do need the schema.xmls there and in the top of the infos.xml you have to make sure the file name there matches the schema in the folder.
Thanks!! I always wondered about the schema, even after extensive research lol:coffee:
Thanks for the reply Jimmy,
I will try and combine both mods and I'll see what happens. :)
Good luck. Apparently, I could have made it easier for everyone by just including the Italian files in the download.:blush:
KrugerPritz Jun 12, 2008, 07:07 AM I got it from this thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=142970&page=5
Pretty decent skin, especially after throttle made the pants darker..
this special ops unit more specialized than lagunari? iNow i'm using this unit as a bonus unit... the mod i use is Regiment and Ethnic Diversity. I'm increasing it day by day, by my own. Inside the MODULES folder it has a folder named BONUS UNITS, where You could condition the build of the unit to any requisite. The right one could be requisitebuilding=JAIL, but so any Civilization could build it. I made BUILDING_ROMAN_FORUM You could make Footbal Stadium so only the Italian/Roman can build.
KrugerPritz Jun 12, 2008, 11:04 AM I made this texture for Your football stadium to make it seem better an italian stadium. It coulod be better and better works are welcomed.
You have to chang it in a dds.
Jimmyballz Jun 12, 2008, 01:23 PM I made this texture for Your football stadium to make it seem better an italian stadium. It coulod be better and better works are welcomed.
You have to chang it in a dds.
I really like how you replaced the roads with a playing field. I wanted to try it, but figured the symmetry would be off :goodjob:. The fans within the stadium is a great extra touch as well.:D:goodjob:
The exterior is cool, especially how it's not a near-replica of the colosseum (like my Football Stadium;))
Is this what one stadium looks like in Italy from the outside?
mnlg Jun 12, 2008, 01:44 PM Is this what one stadium looks like in Italy from the outside?
Well, not exactly ;-)
A few stadiums in Italy (I don't think they are much different from the rest of Europe at least, but there you go)
Olimpico, Rome (http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/italy/lazio/roma_olimpico.shtml)
San Siro (Meazza), Milan (http://www.cheaphotelmilan.com/immagini/san_siro_milan.bmp)
Marassi, Genoa (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Genova-Stadio_di_Marassi-gradinata_sud.JPG/800px-Genova-Stadio_di_Marassi-gradinata_sud.JPG)
Delle Alpi, Turin (http://xoomer.alice.it/redboys/stadi%202003/foto/Stadio_torino%20delle%20alpi%2070000.jpg)
KrugerPritz Jun 13, 2008, 07:09 AM Well, not exactly ;-)
A few stadiums in Italy (I don't think they are much different from the rest of Europe at least, but there you go)
Olimpico, Rome (http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/italy/lazio/roma_olimpico.shtml)
San Siro (Meazza), Milan (http://www.cheaphotelmilan.com/immagini/san_siro_milan.bmp)
Marassi, Genoa (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e6/Genova-Stadio_di_Marassi-gradinata_sud.JPG/800px-Genova-Stadio_di_Marassi-gradinata_sud.JPG)
Delle Alpi, Turin (http://xoomer.alice.it/redboys/stadi%202003/foto/Stadio_torino%20delle%20alpi%2070000.jpg)
Yes indeed but this image is the only one I've found that I'd could cut and paste: And I don't know if is italian (the first image where I've cut the pubblic sure no) I'd like to find a front Photo of Olimpic Stadium of Rome but I didn't found. It's especially for this that i've said that better works are welcomed!
KrugerPritz Jun 15, 2008, 04:48 AM Well, inside this mod http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=274830 You'll find a good stadium. Also the Globe theatre is a very very very well done olimpic stadium... I have any doubt that the front line is of the same stadium i've found for my pertaining one :)
Jimmyballz Jun 15, 2008, 05:16 PM i've said that better works are welcomed!
I like your skin.:thumbsup: It's a great twist to the plain white colosseum, and it looks good. I'll play around with it, maybe add a small flag or something, or maybe not, depends on how it looks. I will also have to change the button ;).
Jimmyballz Jun 18, 2008, 07:30 PM I finally changed the button for the football stadium. I really like this one since it doesnt remind me of the regular colosseum one bit:D
For new version of the Football Stadium CLICK HERE.
jkp1187 Jun 24, 2008, 10:29 AM Some unsolicited comments:
Two excellent leaderheads, nice UU, and a good idea for a civ all around.
I like the Alpini, although instead of giving them two free promotions, I think it might be better to give them a native bonus for defense (or attacks) in hill terrain, instead of giving them Guerilla I and II right off the bat and thus making it possible for them to receive Guerilla III (and its very nice withdrawal bonus) with the first promotion.
I'm not as excited about the Mangusta...gunships aren't what immediately comes to mind when I think of Italian military. (Though I would definitely keep the art, which is nice, as a 'flavor' for the Italian gunship.)
I also think that the 'football stadium' needs to be reworked a little....mostly because it becomes available with Construction, which is a very early tech, while football (soccer) itself didn't come around in its modern form until the 19th century....so it just doesn't feel right to have a football stadium built the same time that you're running around with catapults and archers. (I don't want to criticize too harshly, because I do like the look of the new football stadium graphics.) But I would personally go in a different direction with the UB. (For the basic "epic-scale" game, that is. If this civ was being used for a more modern scenario, though, the football stadium would work quite nicely.)
And the leaderheads are just awesome.
Overall, good job!
Jimmyballz Jun 24, 2008, 08:20 PM Thanks for the comments. They had me thinking:lol:...I like the Alpini, although instead of giving them two free promotions, I think it might be better to give them a native bonus for defense (or attacks) in hill terrain, instead of giving them Guerilla I and II right off the bat... The Oromo's made this okay at first. But like you said, with one easy promotion (barracks)... I can see it's hard to compare Drill III which is FAR less powerful to Guerilla III. Guerilla III is too much to start with. Guerilla I makes sense if they are in fact, the elite mountain units.
I'm not as excited about the Mangusta...gunships aren't what immediately comes to mind when I think of Italian military...This one is the biggest innacuracy with the civ. The Augusta A129 Mangusta came out in 1983, a bit late for the Italian Empire:blush: However, it is a well-respected gunship, used also by the UN and NATO International Security Forces. Magusta's are known for their anti-tank and night vision capabilites, hence the ambush and sentry, & it's arguably one of the best gunships designed. Other nations are using the A129 as well. (Plus I liked the idea of a Gunship UU, and since it is manufactured in Italy...)
I also think that the 'football stadium' needs to be reworked a little....mostly because it becomes available with Construction, which is a very early tech, while football (soccer) itself didn't come around in its modern form until the 19th century....so it just doesn't feel right to have a football stadium built the same time that you're running around with catapults and archers. (I don't want to criticize too harshly, because I do like the look of the new football stadium graphics.) But I would personally go in a different direction with the UB. (For the basic "epic-scale" game, that is. If this civ was being used for a more modern scenario, though, the football stadium would work quite nicely.)
And the leaderheads are just awesome.I would consider it a modern times empire. The 'Italian Empire' lasted from the 1880's through WWII, and football came to Italy in the 1880s. TBH, I couldn't come up with a better idea for an Italian UB.
They do show up too early, yes. Those early catapult rushes and a Football Stadium sometimes in the BC years-:lol: Instead, they could be built at Engineering, or maybe Steel + Engineering, (or Steel+Construction). But I definately agree the requisites for the Football Stadium should be revisited.:hmm: any thoughts?
MadmanOfALeader Jun 25, 2008, 10:43 AM Could we have a decal for this civ?
Jimmyballz Jun 25, 2008, 11:31 AM There's one up now. See the 2nd post or the DL pics. It's from Throttle's original Kingdom of Italy, which btw I gave credit in original version;):)
MadmanOfALeader Jun 25, 2008, 12:35 PM Is that the tri-colored flag?
That's not really a decal.
A decal is a two-colored flag, usually with an icon on it.
mnlg Jun 25, 2008, 01:37 PM I also think that the 'football stadium' needs to be reworked a little....(snip)
I agree, and I am Italian. If I were to create a civ, I wouldn't know how to start, and even though I couldn't try the civ yet (I can't play without History in the Making now, so either it's modular or it will have to wait :-) I am very respectful of the amount of work behind it. Personally however I think that a theater would be a better choice as the unique building (perhaps giving GP points), especially to reflect the during the 18-19th century epoch, which is more or less the time slice for the civ, leaderheads etc. I think I proposed something like that in a previous post.
jkp1187 Jun 25, 2008, 05:21 PM Thanks for the comments. They had me thinking:lol:The Oromo's made this okay at first. But like you said, with one easy promotion (barracks)... I can see it's hard to compare Drill III which is FAR less powerful to Guerilla III. Guerilla III is too much to start with. Guerilla I makes sense if they are in fact, the elite mountain units.
Hmm. I'd forgotten that about the Oromo Warrior. I'll have to reconsider my earlier post. It's also true that since it's tied to Riflemen, it doesn't become available until later in the game, so making it more powerful won't be too unbalancing.
This one is the biggest innacuracy with the civ. The Augusta A129 Mangusta came out in 1983, a bit late for the Italian Empire:blush:
I wouldn't say that! It's no less inaccurate than Churchill of the English Empire....
I would consider it a modern times empire. The 'Italian Empire' lasted from the 1880's through WWII, and football came to Italy in the 1880s. TBH, I couldn't come up with a better idea for an Italian UB.
They do show up too early, yes. Those early catapult rushes and a Football Stadium sometimes in the BC years-:lol: Instead, they could be built at Engineering, or maybe Steel + Engineering, (or Steel+Construction). But I definately agree the requisites for the Football Stadium should be revisited.:hmm: any thoughts?
Good question. I would NOT de-couple the generic Colloseum from Construction, since it would put Italy at a disadvantage. Ideally I'd suggest some sort of bonus to a religious building (since church and state were pretty tight, at least initially in the Kingdom of Italy,) but we'd have to create a new building/graphic for each religion's "cathedral" (e.g., "Italian Christian Cathedral", "Italian Islamic Mosque", etc.) Maybe a
replacement for drydock, giving Italian ships a combat bonus or something? I seem to recall the Italian Navy doing...well, okay in World War II.
Jimmyballz Jun 25, 2008, 06:50 PM I agree, and I am Italian. If I were to create a civ, I wouldn't know how to start, and even though I couldn't try the civ yet (I can't play without History in the Making now, so either it's modular or it will have to wait :-) I am very respectful of the amount of work behind it. Personally however I think that a theater would be a better choice as the unique building (perhaps giving GP points), especially to reflect the during the 18-19th century epoch, which is more or less the time slice for the civ, leaderheads etc. I think I proposed something like that in a previous post. Sorry it's not in modular format. I remember your earlier post about the theatre, and since there already is a theatre, nothing really genuine came to mind. A museum is the only thing I came up with, but not sure how popular or widespread they are in Italy (especially compared to other nations). I appreciate your insight, but I had nothing to take it to the next level.:)
I would NOT de-couple the generic Colloseum from Construction, since it would put Italy at a disadvantage. Ideally I'd suggest some sort of bonus to a religious building (since church and state were pretty tight, at least initially in the Kingdom of Italy,) but we'd have to create a new building/graphic for each religion's "cathedral" (e.g., "Italian Christian Cathedral", "Italian Islamic Mosque", etc.) Maybe a
replacement for drydock, giving Italian ships a combat bonus or something? I seem to recall the Italian Navy doing...well, okay in World War II.
I like the idea of a drydock replacement UB, as there isn't one currently in bts. After some looking around, there are some variations, like a pontoon drydock aka a floating drydock. Italy did use them, along with some other nations. One interesting bit is that the first record of a floating drydock came from Italian writings in the 14th century. Not sure what else could replace the drydock. So a UB drydock would of course have it's own advantages.
mnlg Jun 26, 2008, 02:51 AM Sorry it's not in modular format
No need to be sorry :) I will just have to find the time to transport it myself, if I will ever be able to do that...
I remember your earlier post about the theatre, and since there already is a theatre, nothing really genuine came to mind.
My idea was to introduce something like the Forum is for the Market in the Roman civ. The theatre UB could be called, for example "La Fenice", or "La Scala".
Another idea could be a replacement for the bank, since the first bank has been built in what is now modern Italy; but that would be around 1400 CE and the general feel of the Civ is about the 19th century.
A museum is the only thing I came up with, but not sure how popular or widespread they are in Italy (especially compared to other nations).
I have to admit that I have little knowledge about the amount and complexity of museum abroad compared to what we have here. However I live in Venice and I couldn't count the museums/art galleries we have. I have no idea what building you could replace with a museum, though. the Library? They come very early in the game and I think it would raise the same doubts as for the Colosseum.
KrugerPritz Jun 26, 2008, 06:50 AM No need to be sorry :) I will just have to find the time to transport it myself, if I will ever be able to do that...
My idea was to introduce something like the Forum is for the Market in the Roman civ. The theatre UB could be called, for example "La Fenice", or "La Scala".
Another idea could be a replacement for the bank, since the first bank has been built in what is now modern Italy; but that would be around 1400 CE and the general feel of the Civ is about the 19th century.
I have to admit that I have little knowledge about the amount and complexity of museum abroad compared to what we have here. However I live in Venice and I couldn't count the museums/art galleries we have. I have no idea what building you could replace with a museum, though. the Library? They come very early in the game and I think it would raise the same doubts as for the Colosseum.
Another sugestiion... University... we have in Bologna the most old University... even if it could be a reinassance building...
KrugerPritz Jun 26, 2008, 06:52 AM However I live in Venice and I couldn't count the museums/art galleries we have. Then we live very near, cause I live in San Donà di Piave :D and by speaking english among us... we seem Woody Allen in Bananas' Republic :lol: :banana::banana::banana: :lol:
KrugerPritz Jun 26, 2008, 02:41 PM I got it from this thread:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=142970&page=5
Pretty decent skin, especially after throttle made the pants darker..
this special ops unit more specialized than lagunari? hi, do You know who made the Carabinieri? It was Throttle maybe?
Jimmyballz Jun 26, 2008, 04:15 PM Yes, I believe so. This was also on the same tread:Hi folks,
I've just completed a new version (1.7):
Here are the changes:
Added diplomacy sound
- Early music : Verdi - Nabucco - Va pensiero chorus
- Middle music: Verdi - Aida - Triumphal March
- Late music : Verdi - Aida - Triumphal March
Modified Carabinieri Unit Graphics:
- Pants are of a slightly darker blu tone
- Pants now have the classic vertical red stripe of the Carabinieri's uniform
For those who don't want or don't like the sound, here is the same version without the sound:
[URL=]http://www.mclink.it/personal/ME2586/Civ4/ItalyMod17_nosnd.zip (]http://www.mclink.it/personal/ME2586/Civ4/ItalyMod17.zip[/URL)
KrugerPritz Jun 27, 2008, 11:20 AM Yes, I believe so. This was also on the same tread:
Cause i've added the ar-sc 70 to his Carabinieri and asked to him permission... He didn't answered... btw here the files, i will wait another day and then i will post in a thread, with all the credits anyway. And tell me what do You think...
Jimmyballz Jun 28, 2008, 01:05 PM @KrugerPritz- Going to use the Carabinieri right after this saved game. Can't wait! This game is lasting longer than I thought it would.:)
KrugerPritz Jun 28, 2008, 01:34 PM @KrugerPritz- Going to use the Carabinieri right after this saved game. Can't wait! This game is lasting longer than I thought it would.:) Instead I'm not playing a full game anymore... as i'm waiting to pass to vista 64bit... I spend my time by increasing the mod i use with more graphics and to exercise me in creations... It's a Looooong way. :):hammer2: :badcomp: :deadhorse:
Jimmyballz Jun 28, 2008, 01:54 PM Lol. Okay, sounds good. I should work on the football stadium .xml soon too.:bounce:
It looked like Spain played very good vs. Russia, so ITA did't get beat by an easy opponent:lol:
We didnt play good at all vs Spain, but Spain was solid and solid again vs Russia. In fact before the game Russia looked like a stronger team than Spain imho.
-jb
KrugerPritz Jun 29, 2008, 02:25 AM Lol. Okay, sounds good. I should work on the football stadium .xml soon too.:bounce:
It looked like Spain played very good vs. Russia, so ITA did't get beat by an easy opponent:lol:
We didnt play good at all vs Spain, but Spain was solid and solid again vs Russia. In fact before the game Russia looked like a stronger team than Spain imho.
-jb To resolve the question about stadium in the ancient era... You could leave the colosseum graphic in the acient and turn in the stadium graphics in the industrial era...
Jimmyballz Jun 29, 2008, 03:45 PM yes, the updated will all also be in 'modular' format too finally :D
"<-_Danny_->" Jul 05, 2008, 12:01 AM I want Garibaldi PRO/CHA.
i want in the italian city list more cities. look in my signature.
onedreamer Jul 05, 2008, 01:12 AM Garibaldi was a General not a Civ Leader.
"<-_Danny_->" Jul 05, 2008, 02:13 AM Lo sappiamo tutti. Come Leader allora che mettiamo?
onedreamer Jul 05, 2008, 06:54 AM you took the wrong approach in desiging the civilization IMO. The italian civilization wasn't born in 1861 (which is only the date of political unity of the italian state) but way before, and its major achievements come also before this date, in particular from the Renaissance. Your UB, UU and leaders are all from the modern age, which has little to offer. For example, with all the UBs that you could come up with, the modern football stadium, which isn't even unique or originary from Italy, is really a poor choice IMO.
For the leader, I would say Lorenzo de'Medici. There's even his LH ready on this forum.
MadmanOfALeader Jul 05, 2008, 10:50 AM Well, Stock Exchanges aren't really unique to England, nor are malls to America, or research institutes to Russia.
Italians are just big soccer nuts.
KrugerPritz Jul 05, 2008, 11:12 AM you took the wrong approach in desiging the civilization IMO. The italian civilization wasn't born in 1861 (which is only the date of political unity of the italian state) but way before, and its major achievements come also before this date, in particular from the Renaissance. Your UB, UU and leaders are all from the modern age, which has little to offer. For example, with all the UBs that you could come up with, the modern football stadium, which isn't even unique or originary from Italy, is really a poor choice IMO.
For the leader, I would say Lorenzo de'Medici. There's even his LH ready on this forum.
I think that Jimmy made a modern Italy, in fact. For me i'd like to have more than ONE unique Building... I prefer UNIQUES BUILDINGS, Unique for that civ. as I like UNIQUES UNITS! or different units artstyle. And for the leaders I think is better to have various choices.
MadmanOfALeader Jul 05, 2008, 03:32 PM Is anybody done making this modular?
Saim Jul 08, 2008, 12:56 AM Why doesn't Mussolini have Christianity as his favored religion?
Jimmyballz Jul 08, 2008, 09:38 AM Is anybody done making this modular?
I'll be back from vacation at the end of this week to make the modular.:)
Why doesn't Mussolini have Christianity as his favored religion?
Good question Siam. Mussolini would either have Christianity or None. Since his favorite civic is Police State, he was left with 'None' to be consistent with all other Police State leaders (all Police State leaders in CIV have 'None" as their fav. religion).
Jimmyballz Jul 08, 2008, 10:03 AM I want in the italian city list more cities. look in my signature. There are 40 cities, which has more than most civs. Adding more won't be a problem, but I think 40 is sufficient. Any particular cities I left out that you feel need to be added? (Please -no towns, villages, hamlets, or cottages:lol:)you took the wrong approach in desiging the civilization IMO. The italian civilization wasn't born in 1861 (which is only the date of political unity of the italian state) but way before, and its major achievements come also before this date, in particular from the Renaissance. Your UB, UU and leaders are all from the modern age, which has little to offer. For example, with all the UBs that you could come up with, the modern football stadium, which isn't even unique or originary from Italy, is really a poor choice IMO.
For the leader, I would say Lorenzo de'Medici. There's even his LH ready on this forum.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Roman_Empire
I'm sorry you feel this civ has little to offer, especially since the UU, UB & leaders are from the Modern age... However, this is no different than numerous civs already in the game (take America for example - Navy Seals, Malls, leaders are modern as well). Madman addressed the UB very well, and again, I am yet to hear of a better UB. How about some suggestions instead of strict criticism? BTW, the ony Lorenzo de'Medici I found here in CFC is for CIV III.
This civ was created basically for me because it helped complete WWII senarios that I liked to play. After playing with it, I decided to post it here for downloading and sharing. After that, Ekmek magnificently created 3-D leaderheads, which were immediately inculded.
Jimmyballz Jul 08, 2008, 10:29 AM What else?
MadmanOfALeader Jul 08, 2008, 10:50 AM Isabella has Police State as her favorite Civic and Christianity as her favorite religion.
As you asked for more cities... I think you're missing a couple, like L'Aquila, Lucca, Udine, Potenza, Reggio Calabria, Campobasso, Bolzano...
Jimmyballz Jul 08, 2008, 02:15 PM That was in Vanilla. Warlords and BTS has Isabella's fav. civic Theocracy.
onedreamer Jul 14, 2008, 03:55 AM Well, Stock Exchanges aren't really unique to England, nor are malls to America, or research institutes to Russia.
Italians are just big soccer nuts.
I said unique or originary. Stock Exchanges and Malls are originary from those countries...
Jimmyballz Jul 26, 2008, 11:04 AM For those who want modular, strategyonly made a nice one here.
Saim Jul 27, 2008, 02:58 AM I'll be back from vacation at the end of this week to make the modular.:)
Good question Siam. Mussolini would either have Christianity or None. Since his favorite civic is Police State, he was left with 'None' to be consistent with all other Police State leaders (all Police State leaders in CIV have 'None" as their fav. religion).
Wouldn't it just add diversity to have a police state Christian?
onedreamer Jul 28, 2008, 07:10 AM http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Roman_Empire
I'm sorry you feel this civ has little to offer, especially since the UU, UB & leaders are from the Modern age... However, this is no different than numerous civs already in the game (take America for example - Navy Seals, Malls, leaders are modern as well).
What I meant to say is that the most significant age for Italy has been the Renaissance, and that you should have looked at it for some ideas on UU, UB and Leaders, but none of these is from that period. I don't see how you can compare to America, which didn't even exist in the Renaissance, so it obviously has industrial age or later stuff.
The fascist period has been all but a glorious one, they are actually black pages in the History book of Italy.
Madman addressed the UB very well
depends on your definition of "addressing".
and again, I am yet to hear of a better UB. How about some suggestions instead of strict criticism?
how about you'd ask things a bit more politely instead of getting all set up for some rightful criticism ? I did point out what I think is wrong and gave suggestions when was asked.
BTW, the ony Lorenzo de'Medici I found here in CFC is for CIV III.
Ah, well... http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=253785&highlight=Lorenzo+Medici
This civ was created basically for me because it helped complete WWII senarios that I liked to play. After playing with it, I decided to post it here for downloading and sharing. After that, Ekmek magnificently created 3-D leaderheads, which were immediately inculded.
As long as it's only for you none will say anything, but when you share something on a public forum you should expect comments, congratulations as well as disagreement and criticism...
MadmanOfALeader Jul 28, 2008, 06:12 PM I've got suggestions for Select-Order sounds...
Select:
000-"As you wish"
"Come Lei lo vuole."
001-"Move Out"
"Andiamo!"
002-"Certainly"
"Certamente"
003-"We're on it"
"Ci pensiamo noi.
004-"No Problem"
"Non c'è problema."
005-"Consider it Done"
"Consideralo fatto."
006-"Very Well"
"Molto bene!"
007-"On our way"
"Incamminiamoci!"
008-"Get moving"
"Cominciamo a diamoci da fare!"
009-"You can count on us"
"Può contare su noi."
Order:
000-"Reporting for duty"
"Presentandosi a rapporto!"
001-"At your service"
"Al Suo servizio."
002-"Tell me what to do"
"Dimmi che cosa fare."
003-"Awaiting your orders"
"Aspetto i suoi ordine."
004-"Ready for action"
"Pronto per l'azione"
005-"What's the plan"
"Quale è il suo piano?"
006-"Yes"
"Si?"
007-"Your orders"
"I Suoi Ordine?"
008-"What do you need"
"Di cui Lei ha bisogno?"
009-"All present and accounted for"
"Tutti presenti sani e salvi."
How'd I do? (I'm a native Spanish speaker but I've learned lots of Italian.)
KrugerPritz Jul 29, 2008, 11:51 AM I've got suggestions for Select-Order sounds...
Select:
000-"As you wish"
"Come Lei ... vuole."
001-"Move Out"
"Andiamo!"
002-"Certainly"
"Certamente"
003-"We're on it"
"Ci pensiamo noi.
004-"No Problem"
"Non c'è problema."
005-"Consider it Done"
"Consideralo fatto."
006-"Very Well"
"Molto bene!"
007-"On our way"
"Incamminiamoci!"
008-"Get moving"
"Cominciamo a darci da fare!"
009-"You can count on us"
"Può contare su noi." more used: può contare su di noi
Order:
000-"Reporting for duty"
"Presentandosi a rapporto!" Ci presentiamo a rappoto!
001-"At your service"
"Al Suo servizio."
002-"Tell me what to do"
"Dimmi che cosa fare."
003-"Awaiting your orders"
"Aspetto i suoi ordini."
004-"Ready for action"
"Pronto per l'azione"
005-"What's the plan"
"Quale è il suo piano?"
006-"Yes"
"Si?"
007-"Your orders"
"I Suoi Ordini?"
008-"What do you need"
"Di cosa ha bisogno?"
009-"All present and accounted for"
"Tutti presenti sani e salvi."
How'd I do? (I'm a native Spanish speaker but I've learned lots of Italian.)
Your italian is very good (i'd like to speak spanish as You italian) anyway i have allowed myself to correct the little errors (in red) ;). it faults in the game orders in italian :)
Ok (now "ok" is used as well in italian too :D) Italiani, chi di noi registra queste frasi in mp3?
Well Italians, who of us will record these phrases in mp3?
MadmanOfALeader Jul 29, 2008, 03:50 PM Well, mostly it was with the help of http://www.wordreference.com and the Spanish and Portuguese unit sounds from Firaxis.
I'm glad you like my Italian, though.
zaltron Aug 07, 2008, 02:50 AM thanks in order to have created the Italian empire, finally someone to realiazzato my country, and as only unit went also the carabinieri and Mussolini well is a dumb one has put because it?
Jimmyballz Sep 13, 2008, 11:12 AM Just realized that I posted the following only in the Football Stadium thread:
"Made Football Stadium available to all civs, with RADIO as a tech requirement.
For UB preference, the flagless version is included.
This is per numerous requests to "industrialize" the stadium. Originally the PreReqTech was CONSTRUCTION and this allowed the Football Stadium to appear way Way WAY before it's time."
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In other words, I hope you can see what to do in order to make the UB appear after researching Radio.
I understand that with an Industrial Era start, rightfully so with an Industrial Era Civ, you don't get to build the UB.
My mistake. My apologies.:)
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