This is a citizen opinion poll on how happy you are with the DemoGame. (not the BTS game!)

Please vote as an individual and give your real opinion, not based on politics!

LOL.

I will not even answer here, merely provide a link:

http://filebox.vt.edu/users/jojacks2/words/hundredflowers.htm

Don't have a clue what the link means, and don't care to study it. Why don't you explain yourself?

Its ok you dont care, its all good. If you are interested, its ok too.

Neutral. I find the roleplay part extremely well done but too inactive, and the gameplay forums rather active but the quality lacks a tad, compared to RP.

I'd like to see a little more participation in the RP threads and a little less bickering (and yes, more people participating would be good), but overall, I'm happy with how this is going.

I feel the same way, but, I still disagree with many choices the Triad, Shattered in particular, makes. I think that people who are in DGIII need a higher role in society, instead of just joining factions and guilds, and voting for a leader for 100+ turns. I also think that the factions are to have a higher role, then just sitting back and waiting for our turn as PF. That is why I feel that I must place a vote of no confidence(ie. I dont want them in power) in the Triad(I can do that right?)

I feel the same way, but, I still disagree with many choices the Triad, Shattered in particular, makes. I think that people who are in DGIII need a higher role in society, instead of just joining factions and guilds, and voting for a leader for 100+ turns. I also think that the factions are to have a higher role, then just sitting back and waiting for our turn as PF. That is why I feel that I must place a vote of no confidence(ie. I dont want them in power) in the Triad(I can do that right?)

This is due more to tribal council doing absolutely nothing to challenge or oppose the triad.

This is due more to tribal council doing absolutely nothing to challenge or oppose the triad.

:confused: Not quite sure why you say this. You haven't noticed all the activity in the forum?

This is also an opinion poll for the pundits, to see if they want to rebel now or not, which maybe is one of the core inspirations for this poll. If someone else posted this, the reaction would be much different.

Interesting. I am neutral as it is a little early to form real opinion. I think the game has potential both RP and Gameplay. I think most citizens are still waiting to see what happens instead of being a part of what is happening, if that makes sense. The game is set up that way and there are fail-safes like revolution.

I am not happy with the game, but I'll not vote because I think is too early.

And as a matter of fact I feared it would be much worse than actually it is.

I'm not trying to say that the Prime Faction or its Leaders are doing a bad job.

But when I read something like " the research or build or whatever must go

that way because next city was promised to players that want research and

not build" ... that I do not like and it is not a Civ game. And it's beyond of my

understanding because other posts show you are good players.

And space to roleplay? Roleplayers do not need that the game is played with

one strategy or another; they just need to be imaginative, storytellers, good

writers and above all to dominate English language. And so they are, as their

posts in the forum show. (And if they want, they could go to any current or

finished game in other forum and there RP with the same easy and beauty;

that would be the evidence that RP does not need to change the gameplay).

My best regards,

Any specific reason this poll isn't private?

I have to disagree with fed1943 that the RPers should just make up stories and then let the gameplayers decide what is best for the game, otherwise you are right, they may as well just turn up in another game. The beauty of the demogame is that there should be some decisions that are taken for the better of the roleplay than for the best result in game (not too extreme though). For instance I have foun my character developing a slightly nationalistic streak, that will lead to me calling for greater military strength an more war-mongering, in stark contrast to my usual Civ strategy.

No, not really, I agree with most of what fed said, and i will post a section of what i post in the Col IW thread

only democracy allows all players in the game to have some input and therefore feel apart of this game. With the system we have a lot of us feel push out, like we are not needed.

So as a result many players leave, and this demogame ends up where it started.

I have now offically proposed a Rebellion. Here (http://http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=272133)

I agree with Seymoo. Unfortunately the people in charge just use gameplay as the excuse most of the time, and then when that cannot do it, they use RP (CoL vs IW debate:"I'd rather be the leader known as the conquerer of Spain than the leader who made it easier for the other governments", I believe it was Shattered who put it like this...)

Neutral. I find the roleplay part extremely well done but too inactive, and the gameplay forums rather active but the quality lacks a tad, compared to RP.

I think we should merge the roleplay & gameplay into one forum. I don't have a roleplay gene in my body (Bertie's blog is more general silliness than roleplay) and don't plan on doing much, if any, roleplay. Still, I appreciate the efforts of others and don't see why we don't just combine the two. Otherwise we have parallel discussions going on some topics which seems a bit much.

@fed1943. Really good post. I agree with most of your points.

The idea of separating gameplay was to give the roleplay a more prominent position, and not drown it with the much more prolific posting of the gameplay parts.

I like the present organization, I got some great stuff to add to the scouting explorations, as well as to get more of Blastoids excellent stone age maps. Gameplay and roleplay must remain separate, or roleplay would be parked forever as it was before.

I'm hoping things will improve, but right now I have no idea how to participate effectively. There doesn't seem to be any good place to establish a character and start generally roleplaying -- it seems that basically the only ones who have roleplayed are those who are directly in charge of something, or those who are just insane and thus can roleplay in places that don't make a lot of sense, by whom I mean Bertie. Props to them, but how about the rest of us?

When more cities are founded, more people [including you rspeer, since you're a Warlord Faction member] will get land tiles. Consider that as a starting point for your individual roleplay character, unless you want to start earlier ofcourse, which is always possible. What you could also do is make up a character right now, and join the Scouting group. Roleplay is all in your head and you participate as much as you want to.
I'm not really good at it, so my roleplay part will be very limited [governor of Warlord City 'till end of first term, and after that we'll see]

There are many more oppurtunities than just the scouting group. We are about to settle far away lands. There is a rebellion in the city! If there isn't a thread that suits your character start one, who nows who will add to it and where they will take you. Multiple personalities are encouraged remember so there is no pressure to get the RP constantly right, if it goes a bit stale skip to a new character. I look forward to RP-ing with you in the near future

" Roleplay is all in your head" with few words NZL said everything.
No reason to gameplay twist and spoil roleplay, or roleplay twist
and spoil gameplay. They are independent things.
The only true connection between them is their source: the persons,
the players. And "roleplayer" and "gameplayer" can be the same person,
just look at Provolution, JoeHarker, Kwarriotpoet.
Best regards,

Sometimes it's a matter of just putting yourself out there. If there isn't a nich or thread made for you, then make one and roll with it.

I do think that as our community evolves and grows (I honestly believe there are many lurkers here, looking for opportunities) we need to get creative about ways to encourage activity.

Story-telling contests...reports from in the field...guilds supporting factions, etc...