Turn order for this one:

Umpire Darius
British FiGu
Prussians Patient
Independents
Austrians Voltar
Russians Sas
French Steve
Spanish Henrik
Swedish Case

Diatribe to start.

ahem, :rolleyes:

As Umpire, am I supposed to take Chris' place in this pbem?

Yep

The British can't do much in turn one anyway ;)

Case is correct. Please play for CP, Waku.

So be it

Prussian forces have moved to besiege Rostok, after a Prussian Musketeer regiment came under attack there.

Aside from that, couriers have been sent all across Europe to acertain attitudes as the war between France and Britain flares again....

Austria begins a re-newed war against the Ottoman yokes.

Constanta and Varna are captured.

Austria also begins moving into Italy to reclaim the papl states.

Tzar Alexander objects to the Austrian capture of Constanta and Varna. These cities should rightfully belong to Russia. Diplomatic efforts to come to a mutual agreement about the future of the Balkans is only met with Austrian arrogance. They wish to keep the whole of the Balkans for themselves.

Russia will not do anything but protest at this time, but we demand that Austria seed at least two cities in the Balkans.

The Russian government is announcing a 10 year plan, that will hopefully improve the financial and technological situation. We invite every European nation to trade with Russia. Your goods will not be hindered by Russian officials.

*Russian forces attacked and captured Nal'Chik from the Turks.

Alexander

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First Consul Crowned Emperor after a nation-wide plebiscite determines the vast majority of Frenchmen want it that way.

Zurich, Sassari Occupied by French Forces after refusing to acknowledge the legitimacy of the Emperor in Paris. Any other minor states stubborn enough to do the same can expect integration into the French Empire.

In particular, the German city states of Cologne, Mainz, Ulm and Oldenburg have been earmarked to be taken under French protection. Similarly the entire Italian penninsular is awaiting the guidance of Paris. Prussian, Austrian or any other nation's interference in these areas will not be tolerated. Any interference will provoke swift retribution from the Grand Armee and it's Emperor.

Long live the Revolution! Viva la France!

Swedish forces have crossed the border into Norway. It is hoped that Trondeim will be in Swedish hands in the next few months.

Britain annoces strict neutrality, and makes no overt moves.

Awaiting Russina-Prussian negotiations before I post my move....

Rostock taken, for the cost of a couple of batteries of artillery.

A new defensive alliance has been agreed with Russia, and various technologies and units traded.

The allocation of Minor Rhenish Principalities has been agreed with France, and although no understanding has yet been arrived at over Stralsund and Denmark, Prussian diplomats are still hopeful....

Austria is surprised by a massive Russian military presence throughout a large junk of the Austro-Russian eastern border. It is currently the opinion of the Austrian government that Russia plans to attack, either remove the troops from our territory or suffer the consequences.

A similar notion goes to France as several french divions moved up to Austrian troop concentrations.

Russia denies to have any plans to attack Austria. The forces in the area is either part of the defenses or forces made ready for depature to Ottoman Turkey. Allthough Russia does not recognice Austrias right to rule the eastern part of the balcans, we will not start a war over such a minor conflict.

Tsar Alexander is very happy with the new defensive alliance with Prussia, and hope the nations of Europe will be willing to trade goods and luxuries.

*A Turkish frigate sunk near Varna.

Fortified infantry units are in position on OUR territory, right at the gates of Costanta. This is a HOSTILE move, we are still in the opnion that you are going to attack. Withdraw!

Prussia urges her allies Russia and Austria to step back from any potential conflict. There are greater things for us all to do.

We are sure Russia with withdraw from Constanta's immediate vicinity, and urge Austrian diplomats not to do or say anything in haste.

Any Balkan disputes can be solved over time, with goodwill on both sides. Prussia is willing to act as an honest broker if this would help to preserve peace, and peace with honour for all....

Russia will respect the advice from our Prussian friends and move back to a less agressive position. We hope that this will be agreable to the Austian leadership. And that we perhaps can work towards a common goal, defeating the Ottoman empire.

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It is perfectly agreable to me, if Russian forces are removed from the doorstep of Constanta.

King Hans warmly welcomes the peaceful moves made by both of his allies! Our three nations are stronger if we stand together, and aside from the eastern Balkans, there is no real conflict of interest between us.

The Balkans can be negotiated about, if necessary, but at this stage Russia particularly has much room for expansion to her south.

Livorno, Ravenna, Mainz and Oldenburg were all occupied by French forces this month. Few casualties were incurred except at Mainz, where the stubborn defenders of the powerful city fortress led to prohibitive losses amongst charging French cavalry. French forces continue to move up to the rebellious German cities of Cologne and Ulm, and their incorporation into the Empire is expected within but a few months. Similarly, the Army of Italy is preparing for a final drive down the penninsula which will end with its total submission to the Emperor.

The French Empire has laid claim to the city of Munich and its environs, and asks that the Hapsburgs withdraw their troops from its vicinity. Hapsburg occupation of the city will provoke swift and terrible retribution from the eager and seasoned troops of the Grand Armee.

The Emperor has also asked the King of Prussia to remove his troops from their positions on the northern road leading down into Cologne, as French forces would like to use this route in their assault on the city.

A similar notion goes to France as several french divions moved up to Austrian troop concentrations.

France has no plans to attack Austria in the near future. However, the puny Hapsburg 'Emperor' on his ramshackle throne is in no position to dictate terms to the glorious French Empire. Our troops are taking the quickest routes to their ultimate destinations; should this bring them close to Austrian troop concentrations, Austria will simply have to accept this. We will certainly not take a longer route simply to reassure your timid spirits.

Long live the Revolution! Viva la France!

hmmmmm, nope, it's not my turn, i think it's Henrik's ;)

Correct. Henrik's turn.

Prussian troops outside Cologne are merely ensuring our farmers can work the fields thereabouts. This will be achieved next month, and our troops will immediately withdraw.

(We have no wish to get in the way of the mighty French armies...;))

By the way, has anyone heard from AoA?. I have mailed him a couple of times, with no reply, and our games are all coming around to his turn again.....

:(

The spanish economy is undergoing varius economic reforms...

Trondheim Falls!

The Norwegian city of Trondheim has fallen to the glorious Swedish Army. The city's defenders were routed by repeated charges from Swedish Cavalry, with the Life Guards deliveredin the final blows. In honor of the capture of this great and rich city, the King of Sweden has declared a public holiday.

Trade Expands

This month Swedish iron traders have begun selling their wares in the Russian city of Odessa. In addition, a convoy of ships has left Goteborg bound for London, and a cargo of furs is soon to arrive at the Portugese capital of Lisbon.

Russian naval Maneuvers Cause Concern

The ships of the Swedish Navy have reported a concentration of Russian ships off the south-west coast of Finland. The Swedish government requests that the Russian navy find some other place to conduct its' training.

AoA has just mailed me, and it is unlikely that he will be able to play before Wednesday, at the earliest. :(

He has also posted about it on the Home Page.

Thanks for moving so quickly everyone, but I'm afraid we will just have to wait now. If he is unable to get his PC operational quickly, I have asked AoA to find a sub.

He knows that in some games we have been waiting a month, and is anxious to get playing.....

Britain orders Spanish units out of Portugual.

Had to zip the file, it doesn't fit due to the new size limit.

In skirmishes outside Kassel, the Duke of Darmstadt's Grenadiers held off repeated charges by the 3rd Kurassier regiment. Artillery from Dortmund and Ansbach along with their infantry supports has now moved up to start a full siege...

Otherwise, no news.

Russian troops remain fortified on the outskirts of Varna. The Austrian government is fast loosing patience.

WITHDRAW IMMEDIATLY!

(these new file size limits are really annoying)

Russian troops made a general withdraw from the Russian/Austrian border, with the intention to ease the tention in the area.

*The Turkish city of Sinope and Batum captured by Russian forces.

Cologne, Pescara and Cagliari all occupied by the ever victorious French armies. The French emperor apologizes for the continued presence of large numbers of troops outside Dortmund; these are en route to Cologne and will be removed without any attack on our Prussian allies.

Long live the Revolution! Viva la France!

(these new file size limits are really annoying)

I'll second that :mad:

Bumping Henrik!!

Sorry, not used to playing after winterfritz (I play after case in all the other games :confused: )

Lots of money invested into infrastructure :)

Case?

Argh - it's only been a day - I do have to do uni work you know :p

A shipment of Furs has arrived in Oporto

AoA

We are trying to rejuninate the Tourney so please come back and play because we miss you! Im currently subbing for Winterfritz. You are three days late right now. And being the official "BUMP KING" of this thread I would like you to consider yourself legally, ethically and morally "BUMPED":spank:

So please come back we need you, thanks:king:

AoA

Are you comming back?:confused:

Waku

Did you get a password from AoA by any chance? John if not then its your turn, we will have to play thru.

Thanks
:spank: :spank:

I'll play through in a few hours if Chris hasn't replied with some passwords

As I have noted elsewhere, AoA has supplied the password ("chris", in all of his games) so I will wait to see if Darius will take over for him.

Franco-British Alliance Announced

In an astonishing move, Emperor Napoleon of France came to King George with the intention of signing a full alliance. We were shocked that our greatest adversary at present and in all history now wishes to side with us, but we must face the reality that the huge Austro-Prusso-Russian power bloc must be countered for the sake of the balance of power. Therefore, Britain has obliged and has signed a complete alliance of both defensive and offensive purposes to secure the safety of Western Europe as a whole. Furthermore, diplomats have been sent to Madrid and Stockholm to see where their nations will stand in the new Europe.

Russia is supriced at the new alliance, but as long as it ends the bloodshed, we're happy.

We were shocked that our greatest adversary at present and in all history now wishes to side with us, but we must face the reality that the huge Austro-Prusso-Russian power bloc must be countered for the sake of the balance of power.

Russia is pussled by this claim. There exists no Austro-Prusso-Russian power bloc. There exists no alliance between us, and the Russian-Austrian relations is strained at best.

But if Britian wishes to label east European countries as one powerblock, so be it. But if nothing else it only shows your lack of knowledge on the political situation in Eastern Europe.

Hmm, I got that information from Steve, and now that I think of it he got a few unrelated things wrong in that same PM, so maybe he was confused about this too. :mad:

Originally posted by Darius
Hmm, I got that information from Steve, and now that I think of it he got a few unrelated things wrong in that same PM, so maybe he was confused about this too. :mad:

hehe, possibly. It's easy to get things mixed up when trying to juggle 8 games at once :p

Aha, I think this is where he screwed up:

Originally posted by Patient English
Prussia urges her allies Russia and Austria to step back from any potential conflict. There are greater things for us all to do.

King Hans warmly welcomes the peaceful moves made by both of his allies! Our three nations are stronger if we stand together, and aside from the eastern Balkans, there is no real conflict of interest between us.

Originally posted by Patient English
King Hans warmly welcomes the peaceful moves made by both of his allies! Our three nations are stronger if we stand together, and aside from the eastern Balkans, there is no real conflict of interest between us.

John made it look like you were allied but really you're just friends of friends. :crazyeye:

Well anyway, the new alliance still stands and you all can counter it however you wish.

hehe, John (Prussia) is allways the diplomat :P

Yeah - wishful thinking I guess....Russia/Prussia are allied, Prussia/Austria have an "understanding", so Prussia is the lynchpin of a sort of bloc.

However, Russia and Austria have "issues" over Constantinople (as per usual!), so all is not yet sweetness and light in the East.

Anyway, Kassel placed under seige (as per our agreement with France) and some troops moved about.

The English rapprochement with France has cetrainly freed up their navy to wander the oceans - Mr Pitt, if you can open a path to Prussian traders to England, we will be glad to do the same for the English traders to Eastern Europe.

Nothing of any consequence occured.

Russia continues it's war against the Ottoman Empires strongholds in the far east. No break through yet.

Ill try and get this played on the plane today.

If my dial in works Ill get it posted sometime tomorrow, if not the next chance Ill have is Sunday night..

Finally I got the turn done.

Captured Rome, John does the La Citte Eternal wonder do anything?

Moved a bunch of units into position to continue attacks on the minor German states asking for protection from the Great French Empire.

Signed a defensive treaty with Sweden, Britain, and Spain. Of course to counter the Prussian, Russian, Austrian power block already established in Central and Eastern Europe. :D

Of course to counter the Prussian, Russian, Austrian power block already established in Central and Eastern Europe.

Ha ha.

The Roman Wonder is just for show....Just so you get a little dialog pop up when you take the city, really.

Originally posted by Patient English


Ha ha.

The Roman Wonder is just for show....Just so you get a little dialog pop up when you take the city, really.

Thanks John nice touch, and I thought consorting with Beautiful Roman women would be enough...........:lol:

NOT a bump but Henrik you are up;)

I am and I'll play not today though...

Not much happening in Spain currently...

Case has exams this could take a few days:D

A shipment of Copper was delivered to St. Petersburg.

The Swedish government respectfully requests the British government to keep the port of London open so that the Swedish shipment of fine racing horses may be landed next month. If Britain is willing to guarentee the saftey of our merchants, the escorting warship will remain in the North Sea.

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I *think* that the darn AI screwed with my production this turn :mad: Luckily I didn't lose anything major.

Darius, HA!, I got to BUMP you!:) :)

About 17 hours early, ya bastard. :p It's on my list and I'm not late.

Hahaha, 13 hours and 13 minutes before bump time, sucka!

- Very profitable fur route established from India to Bordeaux.

- British ships concentrate their positions to make way for Prussian goods. We hope our Iron traders near Stettin will be given the same courtesy.

The path has been smoothed for British merchants near Rostock. Aside from this, a profitable new trade in Prussian apples to East Anglia has helped subsidise significant improvement in our army and industry.

Nothing much to report.

*The Turkish city Trabzon captured.

*Quality Mutton from Odessa delivered to Belfast

Im double checking with John on some diplomacy I believe he and WF did before I got on board, then Ill play the turn.:D

Darn server sorry about the double post.:cry:

Do you have the info you need from me, Steve?

Originally posted by Patient English
Do you have the info you need from me, Steve?

John read your emails again we aren't quite done here, you know how I hate to break a deal..........:D

Turin to Naples - Silver.

Pulled back troops from the vicinity of Ulm and Kassel per previous agreements with the Prussians. (I dont care what you say John a deal is a deal).

And generally built up units and moved around units. :D

Steve, I appreciate the gesture......

However, I have pulled back from Kassel too, waiting for your onslaught ;)

Not much happening in Spain this turn.

Case old buddy you are up in this one and I was even nice and waited the 48 hours!

:spank: :spank:

Sorry, I'll play and post this afternoon.

I still think that we need to institute a rule of always notifing the next player via PM/email...

Originally posted by Case
Sorry, I'll play and post this afternoon.

I still think that we need to institute a rule of always notifing the next player via PM/email...

Here, Here! I agree 100%, I believe most of the delays are the person up doesn't even realize it! And Im getting tired of going thru the threads every couple of days, not to mention the fact that it pisses off Darius although that part is kind of fun!:crazyeye: :mischief:

although that part is kind of fun!

Don't forget I've got dirt on you squid, one more comment like that and an unfortunate email will make its way to the old ball and chain... :evil:

Originally posted by Darius


Don't forget I've got dirt on you squid, one more comment like that and an unfortunate email will make its way to the old ball and chain... :evil:

He buddy I already told you she knows of my exploits in small town Nevada already. She knew I was a pig when she married me. Nice try though!:D

Like I said before I could edit whatever I want...

"Dude I haven't been there for about 10 months"

:mischief:

Originally posted by Darius
Like I said before I could edit whatever I want...

"Dude I haven't been there for about 10 months"

:mischief:

OK after this we better get back on track but Like I told you in our AIM conversation Id just tell her it is her fault for not taking care of business at home. No worries dude!:D

:lol:

Originally posted by Case
Sorry, I'll play and post this afternoon.

I still think that we need to institute a rule of always notifing the next player via PM/email...

Case is still up and aware of the turn, we need to get the thread discussion back on track..............:D

All is quiet in sunny Sweden.

- Esbjerg and Alborg captured.

- Norwich-brewed Dye on sale in Alborg, and Indian sugar on sale in Amsterdam (boy was the latter one profitable :eek: )

- Major fleet relocations underway.

Prussia has moved - but has done nothing apart from improving her defences....

(I could have sworn I played this turn before - but maybe I forgot to post it...)

Corfu captured.

It seems Darius posted the round 5 save by a mistake, he should have posted his round 6 save, but posted the wrong save :(

I just checked and the file I posted is absolutely correct; it's the same one I played.

great news, i will play later today then... sorry for the delay

It seems i wont get my main computer back in order untill the end if next week. But i have set up my old computer again, and can continue to play the game. :D

But i have lost all my passwords, so we need someone to crack/remove the password for me. Anyone?? :p

Henrik, can you remove the password here?

If voltar removes his password then yes I can.

Henrik, just so you know you don't need the password of the most recent player to remove the passwords, just the password of yourself or any player. I tested this and it works, and I used it at AoW 2 at Apolyton. Unless this is a Mac/Windows issue, I dunno.

PMed you darius

Did it darius way, only downside with this one is that now it will look like cheatmode is toggled in the score :(

Does that even happen in a .net file? I thought since cheating is not possible in .net gaming, the makers didn't bother to make a mechanism that would embed past cheating in the file. Guess they did. :o

Yeah they do and this is unfortunate since if someone else should toggle cheatmode later on, it'll not be visible to us :(

I think this is detogglable (is there such a word?) by hexediting though, I'll check allards guide and see if I can do that when it's my turn.

Russia demands that British naval vessels stop blocking major ship routes. British ships are currently blocking the passage north of Reval and the entrance to the Meditheranean from the Black sea. We hope this is just a temporary occurance.

Nothing major....

Steve I assume the issue requiring me has been resolved?

Though I am not steve I can confidently say: Yes it has ;)

Originally posted by voltar
Steve I assume the issue requiring me has been resolved?

Voltar, It looks like it is resolved, thanks for checking!:D

I have absolutely no idea what you guys are talking abou, but France is next.

Originally posted by sas
I have absolutely no idea what you guys are talking abou, but France is next.

Password stripping for you I might add.:D

And it looks like Im next! SAS where was my reminder email or PM?, Sorry but Case keeps the smiley face for this week.:D

BTW I let this one get completely by me this week, This is why we need the courtesy emails everyone!;)

Sorry Steve, forgot the mail.. :(

Originally posted by sas
Sorry Steve, forgot the mail.. :(

I know it is OK my son, you are forgiven, but Im afraid I can not give you a smiley face this week. But if you are good Ill get you one next week OK?:D :D

btw, how old are you anyway Steve? :)

Originally posted by sas
btw, how old are you anyway Steve? :)

Almost old enough to be your dad, not quite. Lets just say anyone under 40 is still a kid in my book...........:lol: :lol:

France will move later today or early tommorrow morning:D

Originally posted by Winterfritz

The French Empire has laid claim to the city of Munich and its environs, and asks that the Hapsburgs withdraw their troops from its vicinity. Hapsburg occupation of the city will provoke swift and terrible retribution from the eager and seasoned troops of the Grand Armee.
!

Since I have not seen any objection to this in the threads and I have not heard a word from The Hapsburg's about this via minister of PM or Email Im wondering what the hell Austrian troops are doing, fortified, blocking the road to Munich!

Munich has been ear marked for entry into the Great French Empire. And if the Hapsburg King wants to go to war over this that would be absoulutely fine, because with my back door covered I have a SUBSTANTIAL portion of the Grand Armee in the near vicinity of this city and the western portion of the Hapsburg joke er empire. The choice is yours, but you WILL get out of the way either way. (Voluntarily or by Force.)

Other than that a quiet turn but I of course moved tons of units closer the the border of Austria...................

Henrik, Three days:spank: :spank:

Partially my fault because I know I forgot to remind Henrik:whipped:

I did remind him about his turn. :)

You did?
Must've missed it :o

Turn comming right up. :)

Nothing special taking place in Spain right now...

Case 4 days:spank: :spank:

Case if you cant get MGE to work you will have to get your password to the umpire and the umpire will have to play thru. Umpire is: Yop73

All quiet in Sweeden.

Henrik-3 days

How can it be, I was the one who played before case :confused:

Originally posted by Henrik
How can it be, I was the one who played before case :confused:

Yes you are correct it is Diatribe.

Hey I can make a mistake once in a while. Im the "Bump King", not the "Perfect Bump King" :king:

The british are coming..... soon?

Diatribe-9days :spank: :spank:

Bill we talked diplomacy last night please play on, or get ahold of me tonight if you need to talk more about the evil Eastern allliance:D

British Iron finds its way to Berlin

Any arrangements made with previous management is encouraged to be brought forth.

Until evidence is brought forth of an alliance to the east the British cannot entangle themselves with any of their own.

Prussia prepares her defences....We wonder what evidence the British ambassador refers to?

And I know Steve will laugh, but the arrangement Russia and I have is defensive. Really! We have no plans to attack ANYONE, as an alliance.

Prussia has no plans to attack anyone at all, probably not even the Independents, until the alliance situation in Europe is clear.

Foggia & Thesslonisca captured

Ankara, Smyrna and Tromso captured :)

*bump conmcb25*

No smiley face for SAS this week!:crazyeye:

Originally posted by conmcb25
No smiley face for SAS this week!:crazyeye:

i did send you a mail!! :cry:

The mail you're registered with is usable right?

Thank you Austrian King for making the right decision and opening the road to Munich. I see however that you have taken the city of Foggia on the Beautiful Italian Pennisula. For now you may keep it because that currently pleases me. HOWEVER, do not take anymore cities in the Italian Pannisula. The remaining cities are under French control so I have a nice throne for one of my incompetent relatives. STAY AWAY FROM ITALY. Your future is with the backward peoples of the Balkans not the Cultured Italians.

Prussian King, what are those units doing on the Road south from ANSBACH to MUNICH! Munich was NOT part of the deal, it has "requested" protection from the Great French Empire. So stay away or else!

Sweden and Spain look for gifts from the benevolent French Emporer.

British King if you want gifts then please change your attitude towards me.

Vivala the Revolution! :king:

The Austrian kingdom respects French presence in Italy.

However we would like to request the city of Reggio for ourselves, nothing more. We willingly allowed France a free path to Munich even though the city was target for Austrian occupation.

Spain thanks France for her generous gift.

Case Bump

Case Bump 6.5 days[punch] [punch] :(

Case 13.5 days:flamedevi :flamedevi :flamedevi

If the fire is out you have to play!

Whoops :o

Swedish forces have continued operations against the Norwegians. A large fleet is now anchored off Stavenger and is expected to storm the city sometime in the next two months.

Yop this is 9 days late!

Please umpire thru for Diatribe.

Thanks:D

I dont have his password.

Btw. Could everybody please send me his password for this game. The only one I have already is the one of Case. (thanx Case :D )

Passwords removed!

Yop needs to umpire for Diatribe-2 days

*As I understand it good, the British are in peace with the French? I improved my attitude against the French.
*Some Danish units and ships killed near Denmark. An attack on Copenhagen will begin next turn.
*Oban emptied. It will be captured next turn.

Yep thats correct.

Nothing to report.

Nothing much occured in Austria. Austria is yet to have received any reply from France regarding Reggio. So again Austria requests the right to occupy Reggio in Italy and nothing more.

.

I have a problem!

Even though i didnt loose any of my cities, the production in every Russian city have changed :mad: :mad: I assume this is a result of Ottoman attacks against a city.

I think it's ridiculous to loose all my producion because of this. I know we have agreed to not use Lazyciv, but i do feel this is pretty stupid loosing so much over such a minor attack.:(

You don't think it could be a ctrl-n issue?
As far as I know production don't get change becouse someone was just attacked (I could be wrong though, but I've never seen it happen before).

Originally posted by Henrik
You don't think it could be a ctrl-n issue?
As far as I know production don't get change becouse someone was just attacked (I could be wrong though, but I've never seen it happen before).

I'm sure it's not a CTRL+N issue, since all my troops are still fortified in the towns. And i reloaded my last save just to be sure.

After more close examination, i noticed that Smyrna was attacked by an "independent Jannisaries", but didnt capture the town. This is the only place millitary action took place as far as i can see.

I have not seen this before either, but the fact remains that it did happen :(

Oh yes I've already had the same problem. When you are attacked during someone elses turn the AI takes a q uick command of your nation and changes production. For example plying as Spanish I had joined in only to find my production changed towards hordes of infantry.

Originally posted by voltar
Oh yes I've already had the same problem. When you are attacked during someone elses turn the AI takes a q uick command of your nation and changes production. For example plying as Spanish I had joined in only to find my production changed towards hordes of infantry.

Thanks, that explains it. I need to know what is the general opinion about this issue among the contesters. Personally, to know that using Lazyciv would fix the problem in no time and at the same time we have agreed on not to use the program makes this very fustrating on my behalf. We are not talking minor changes, but allmost every single city changed because of an AI nations attack that didnt even capture a city :(

In ZWK 4.296 , someone managed to restore the production of Eivind.
Maybe you can ask him how he did it and then restore yours.

i can restore the production in no time with Lazycuv, but we made an agreement on not to use it :(

Aye this is utterly ridiculous. I dunno why we got rid of LazyCiv. Which was a stupid thing to do.

Has lazyciv resolved the city names problem yet? And is it Mac-compatible to Henrik can use it? If so, we can use it ....

(Although for my behalf, I would rather not - as this behaviour almost never happens to me - but I will bow to the majority on this. I just won't use it myself 'cos I hate all the hassle.) :(

Originally posted by Patient English
Has lazyciv resolved the city names problem yet? And is it Mac-compatible to Henrik can use it? If so, we can use it ....

(Although for my behalf, I would rather not - as this behaviour almost never happens to me - but I will bow to the majority on this. I just won't use it myself 'cos I hate all the hassle.) :(

John, using Lazyciv is no hassle. It's probably one of the easiest program you will ever use. But i doubt the city problem is fixed or the compabillity with Mac for that matter.

I would not make an issue out of this had the changes been the result of me loosing a city. That would be the "normal" bug in the Civ2 engine. Loosing my entire production because of an attack on one of my cities is just stupid :(

SAS, I agree with you. All I would ask is that you see if this is a "one-off" craziness, or is a regular problem. If the latter, we will have to bite the bullet.

It just weird that I never have this problem!

LazyCiv involves making a special save, then loading someone else's save on your turn, applying LazyCiv, then reloading the save again into Civ, yes? Sounds like more hassle than I need for a problem I never have! (OK, I have seen the "lose a city and have your build queues change", but I have no trouble rationalising that bug/behaviour). ;)

Originally posted by Patient English
SAS, I agree with you. All I would ask is that you see if this is a "one-off" craziness, or is a regular problem. If the latter, we will have to bite the bullet.

It just weird that I never have this problem!

LazyCiv involves making a special save, then loading someone else's save on your turn, applying LazyCiv, then reloading the save again into Civ, yes? Sounds like more hassle than I need for a problem I never have! (OK, I have seen the "lose a city and have your build queues change", but I have no trouble rationalising that bug/behaviour). ;)

No, with lazyciv you load your previous save and press copy. Then you load your new turn and when you choose your name you press paste.

Thats it.

I will not hold up the game any longer, so i will play later tonight. I'm just glad i'm not at war. And i would for the record state that i feel we should work out a way to make the use of Lazyciv avaliable to all players. Including using a 3'rd party to do the job.

OK, well it doesn't sound too bad, but I won't use it until I see a need to. I would support its use if there were a Mac version and if we are prepared to forgo the events it might damage. I am certainly not going to recompile them all for all games!

Sorry, but the post will have to wait untill tomorrow. Going over every city in Russia, changing the production is tedious work.

Decided to finish the round this evening after all :cool:
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After what was thought to be a minor skirmish in the newly aquired city Smyrna, the impact it had on Russia was immense! the Tzar misunderstood the report from the southern front. What was an attack of 100 Jannisaries, was interpreted as an attack of 100 thousand Jannisaries :eek:

As a result, the Tzar ordered changes in the national production that har an allmost crippeling impact on the Russian industry. Before the mistake was noticed, it was too late to do anything about it :cry:

Anyway, game on!

file :o

...and the file?

OK - just beat me to it! :D

Bump Steve/Darius

Ulm and Kassel will soon fall under French Protection since the Prussians seem to anemic to provide protection.

The last two cities on the Italian Pennisula shall also come under French Protectorate soon. These are the cities of: Taranto and Regio. And as I told the Austrians earlier, no you cant have one of them. Remember the only reason I allow you to occupy Foggia is because currently it pleases me.
Trade established with London from Harligen

WOuld France consider a trade Foggia for Regio?

Originally posted by voltar
WOuld France consider a trade Foggia for Regio?

Ill get back to you before your next turn but my guess is no. Ill let you know as my time permits. Im busier than hell in exile.:D

Bump Henrik, 16 days!!

Terribly, terribly sorry about the delay (more than two weeks!) :(
Won't do it again.:o

Spanish turn played, not much happening, however a small offensive is being conducted in northern africa...

As soon as Case has played, can you play for Diatribe, Yop?

Yes, I can. :D

Case 5 days!:eek: :cry:

Stavanger Taken

A daring Swedish combined-arms operation has resulted in the capture of the Norwegian stronghold of Stavanger. After a fierce bombardment from the Royal Swedish Navy, elite Swedish troops occupied the town and drove the Norwegians from the nearby hills. Casualties were low.

*British forces have taken Oban in northern Africa.
*The siege of Copenhagen has begun, killing 1 independant musketeer.

misspost

Prussian move. Nothing to report....

A glorious month for the Austro-Hungarian empire.

The war against the Ottomans came to a stunning culmination.

Sofia long surrounded and besieged yet unwavering in it's resistance finally fell. Our forces launched a daring attack on Sofia which resulted in heavier casualties then expected but the city fell.

Constantinople great city and capital of the Ottoman Empire also fell. Our artillary bombarded it'sa walls out of existance and Austrian Infantry moved in and secured the city. Fierce street fighting developed as our forces struggled to reach the palace. The palce was inavded and the great ruler was captured. Luckily he had nowhere to flee with the Russian forces securing the east and Austria moving from the west, the seas were also sealed by Russian ships.

As a token of goodwill we will allow Russia a free hand on the high seas Russian ships will be free to move through the straits at any time.

Sorry for the late email reminder Voltar. Looks like you didn't need it! :)

Originally posted by voltar
As a token of goodwill we will allow Russia a free hand on the high seas Russian ships will be free to move through the straits at any time.

Russia congratulates the Austrians with the capture of Constantinople.

Russia, thanks the Austrian Empereor for a positive attitude in this matter. The Russian navy is shipping troops around Asia Minor in an attempt to subdue the heathen threat once and for all.

Once again, it seems people have been playing the wrong file. I noticed that the the first number, 07 didnt change with the brits.

And when i loaded up the game, things where not as i remembered it. Trust me, i know, because of the AI changes in production.

So this means that Britain (Yop73) must post the right file and we continue from there. :(

EDIT: Btw, i noticed Constantinople wasnt captured, so perhaps it's just Voltar that needs to repost. But the number is still wrong ;)

The game was certainly Sept 1804 when I played it. It was the game I remembered from July 1804 too. Voltar's turn then jumps to November 1804, quite rightly, although he forgot to increment the turn number.

If Contantinople is still Independent in your game SAS, Voltar must have posted the wrong turn, not Yop.

The game number (and months) change when Austria plays.
So Voltar posted the wrong file.

Indeed.

Originally posted by Yop73
The game number (and months) change when Austria plays.
So Voltar posted the wrong file.

Silly me, for some reason i keep thinking it's the Brits that mark the transistion to a new round :crazyeye:

Yeah, it's them coming first in the play sequence that does it. My fault really, I just developed the game that way, and saved the scenario when it was Britain's move.

Bump voltar to repost the right file ;)

This is the correct file.

-Russian expeditionary force near Smyrna gets reinforcements. Offensive against Rhodes will start in two months.

Ulm and Kassel have joined there rightfull place as part of the Glorious French Empire.

Prussian King, I suggest you get your troops AWAY from my cities, currently it doesn't bother me, but that can rapidly change. As a matter of fact it did just change. Move those pathetic units away from my cities!

And definately keep those Prussian brigs away from the English Channel. My friends the English and I have to trade and your ships are interferring with freedom of the seas. If they are still there next turn I will sink them. In order to ensure freedom of the seas for all.

And no more Italian Cities for the Austrians. The rest of the Italian cities will be under French control. For now you may keep Foggia. But only because currently it pleases me.

Russia thinks Napoleon is getting abit full of himself. Russian forces are standing ready to move into Prussia to protect it's interests. Prussia will not stand alone if France arroganse reaches another level.

Originally posted by sas
Russia thinks Napoleon is getting abit full of himself. Russian forces are standing ready to move into Prussia to protect it's interests. Prussia will not stand alone if France arroganse reaches another level.

Fine Fine, Im really scared of your rabble army.

If you want to start a war over freedom of the seas or Prussian troops in MY territory go for it. :p :p :p :p

Henrik Turn- 1 hour

Our influence in North Africa has grown...

The Norwegian town of Bergen has been secured by the Swedish Army and Navy.

The Russian government is asked to keep it's forces well away from Bodo.

Yop, please play for Diatribe.

Steve, I am not looking for a war with France. However, I have allies aplenty should you try and force one. Prussia is not scared of France and will not retreat from Prussian territory (the usual Civ city radius). However, any Prussian troops or ships in genuinely French or neutral territory will be withdrawn.

Prussian brigs are only holding open sealanes for the coming and going of Prussian merchantmen. If France and Britain keep the sea lanes clear, we shall be happy to remove our vessels.....

Yop-6days Umpire for Diatribe.

Prussian King, I dont want war either. However I dont want your troops near my cities. YOU are the one who initially formed a coalition to counter someone? Who is it, me! So get away from my cities or else.:p The decision to go to war is currently yours not mine.

The sea lanes to GB are open. We have no intention in blocking them. So why do you warships hang right off our coasts menacing us? I have no problem with Prussia establishing trade.

And to the Russian rabble of course Im full of myself, Im a short guy with a HUGE ego!:D

*The offensive in Denmark continues, but Copenhagen is not yet attacked because of a lack of artillery shells.

French Emperor,

Prussia has not made any decision to go to war. Prussian troops will not infringe French city territories.

A few Prussian Brigs hardly "menace" the French navy, however, these will be withdrawn from the Channel.

We expect the French armies to similarly respect Prussian territory.

Prussia has moved. All units occupying land within the city radius of a French-controlled city have been withdrawn (or in one case has partly withdrawn through difficult terrain).

The land now unoccupied should remain free of French units, as in all cases it is also within the radius of Prussian cities.

All quiet in the Hapsburg empire.

War!

Earlier this month Tsar Alexander was presented with the latest report about the current world issues and military strength. Alexander have demanded better intelligence and reports after the "Smyrna Incident",

He was alarmed at the military buildup by the Swedes. The Swedes where getting stronger too rapidly for they’re own good. This threatens the Russian dominance in the north Baltic Sea.

After a talk with his senior advisors, a plan was set in motion. Since the strength of the Russian army was allready well positioned for an attack, the order was given. The plan was to knock out the Swedish forces in Finland permanently. Giving them a blow they couldn’t recover from.

-Russian forces based in Vyborg launched a massive attack against the Swedish fort east of Helsingfors. Russian imperial guards lead the attack and reduced the Fort to rubble before the Swedes had time to react.

-After the fall of the Fort, the main body of the Baltic Army could move out of Vyborg and attack Helsingfors itself. Wave after wave of Russian cavalry and infantry decimated the Swedish defenses. And soon the Russian flag was raised in the center of the town.

Russian Naval Vessels also saw action:

-Swedish transport east of Karlskrona sunk.
-Swedish brig outside Helsingfors sunk.



In a letter to the Swedish King, Tsar Alexander issued the following demands:

-The whole of Finland, including Uleaborg will be ceded to Russia.
-Visby will be ceded to Russia.
-Stralsund will be ceded to Russia.

Failure to comply will result in further attacks by the Russian army, with orders to take the land by force.


In other news:

-Antalya captured by the Russian army.
-Heavy fighting around Mosul

Bravo! But it's "ceded"....;)

Originally posted by Patient English
Bravo! But it's "ceded"....;)

fixed :p

Why Stralsund? :confused:

Originally posted by Henrik
Why Stralsund? :confused:

Stralsund in itself isnt very important. But it will be a part of limiting Swedens dominance in the Baltic Sea. Russia is determined to remove any Swedish influence outside Sweden itself in the Baltics.

Russia have no territorial ambitions in central Europe, so Stralsund will be an excellent port of call for Russian Merchant Shipping.

Originally posted by sas
In a letter to the Swedish King, Tsar Alexander issued the following demands:

-The whole of Finland, including Uleaborg will be ceded to Russia.
-Visby will be ceded to Russia.
-Stralsund will be ceded to Russia.

Failure to comply will result in further attacks by the Russian army, with orders to take the land by force.[/B]

If Russia wants the ancient lands of the Swedish people then she will have to pay for those lands with the blood of her soldiers. :p

I would strongly suggest the Russia Tsar talk to the Prussian and Austrian King before making completely ridiculous demands.

If this continues there will war and you will be the flame that ignites the fire!:mad:

Perhaps it's not my place to say so as Spain, but Russia seizing Stralsund is something I'd definatly try to hinder if I was Prussia, France or Brittain...

Prussia has no objection to a Russian base at Stralsund. Neither do we specifically encourage it, nor encourage Russia's war against Sweden.

It is Russia's business (and Sweden's too!) ;)

Originally posted by Patient English
Prussia has no objection to a Russian base at Stralsund. Neither do we specifically encourage it, nor encourage Russia's war against Sweden.

It is Russia's business (and Sweden's too!) ;)

Umm no its NOT!

Prussia is allied with Russia and Sweden is allied with France.

A Russian attack on that city means all out war because Im also allied with England and Spain and you and Russia are allied with Austria.

I would be willing to forgive the sinking of Swedish Ships but any further attacks on Sweden will not go unpunished.

Soooo think again before you think you can remain Nuetral.

You can not.

An attack on Sweden is an attack on the "Coalition of the Willing". And once it starts I plan on doing A Lot of BURNING.

I suggest you talk to Russia SOON! This is unsatisfactory to the EXTREME!

And the Road to Moscow goes Thru Prussia!

I see that you have two ways out of this John.

1.Gets those barbarians from the east to back down (They are your Allies!)or

2. Publically announce that your alliance with Russia is null and void.

The decision is yours.

The short guy with the HUGE EGO speaks!

Originally posted by Henrik
Perhaps it's not my place to say so as Spain, but Russia seizing Stralsund is something I'd definatly try to hinder if I was Prussia, France or Brittain...

It is your place to say Henrik as one of Swedens allies. This is a dam outrage!

England demands that Russia immediately withdraws from Helsingborg, pays Sweden for that war-damage (especially because they lost 2 fortresses) and publically apolygises for the sneak-attack.

My alliance with Russia is defensive. Russia never consulted me on this Swedish War, neither did I expect her to.

If France "goes through" Prussia without my permission to attack Russia, then it is France who is sneak-attacking a foreign nation without cause.

France can defend Sweden without attacking Prussia, she can even carry the war to Russia without going through Prussia. It seems that the Little Emperor with the Large Ego has been looking for an excuse to attack Prussia for a long time and thinks this might be it.

If you want to brutally attack Prussia with no legal "causus belli" then be honest enough to say so. Mind you, maybe the double-speak has been learned from a historically more recent "Coalition of the Willing"? ;) (Sorry, coudn't resist)

If you want simply to attack Russia in defence of your Swedish ally, then there is no need for Prussia to be involved. Prussia does not support or aid in any way Russia's war effort. The war is an aggressive one launched by Russia outside our alliance and Russia has not asked for, and has not got, Prussian support.

However, if France wishes to ruin her reputation in the wider world, and force Prussia to assit Russia out of self-defence, then attacking Prussia is certainly the way to do it. Prussia is not afraid, and has made preparations to resist an invader.

OK John if I attack Russia because of the Swedish incident you dont intend to honor your defensive alliance with her?

Then why do you have a defensive alliance?

Because they are the aggressor (the Russians?)

I think you need to clarify this point. I think our concepts of a "defensive alliance" are different.

Sorry but being a simple engineer things are pretty cut and dry for me.

A Defensive Alliance, for me, means:

1) If one of you is attacked by a Third Party, the other offers to come in to defend you. You may choose to decline or accept that offer.

2) However, if you start a war, by sneak attack or after having an ultimatum rejected, WITHOUT FIRST GETTING AGREEMENT from your Alliance partner to make it a Joint War, then any counterattacks you may get, from whatever sources, do not activate the alliance. Your partner may choose to offer assistance freely, but is not treaty-bound to do so.

We are in Case (2) at the moment, with regard to Sweden. If France were to attack Prussia, we would be in Case (1) and Russia would come to my aid.

If Russia were attacked by Austria, say, outside this Swedish war, I would have to declare on Austria (purely hypothetically). If Austria allied with Sweden, or was already allied, and joined that war, I could join or not as I chose.

Russia knows and accepts this, and has asked for no Prussian involvement in the Swedish war. That war is outside our alliance, unless you or Sweden attack me and activate it.

Is that clear?

Originally posted by Patient English
Is that clear?

Crystal.....

Thanks

And you can kiss my arse about trying to agitate a war. I have done nothing more than protect my rights. I even offered to let you take Ulm and Kassel as per the WF agreement and you declined. So there!:p

Originally posted by sas
[B]War!
He was alarmed at the military buildup by the Swedes. The Swedes where getting stronger too rapidly for they’re own good. This threatens the Russian dominance in the north Baltic Sea.
/B]

If you think the Swedish Military buildup in the baltic is bad wait till you see what happens next, your unprovoked aggression will not go unpunished!:p

Originally posted by Patient English
Bravo! But it's "ceded"....;)

Im glad you are:


Originally posted by Patient English
Neither do we specifically encourage it, nor encourage Russia's war against Sweden.

Not encouraging the War Prussian King!
:p

Sweden has requested assistance based on her defensive alliance with France. France officially declares war on Russia.

French Atlantic Fleet scrambled and moving to the Baltic with troop transports fully loaded.

French Med Fleet scrambled and headed to the Dardanelles Straits with troop transports fully loaded.

French troops along the Prussian and Austrian border placed on high alert. Just in case Russia's allies decide to intervene.

Until this massive French mobilization east is complete, Prussian and Austrian merchants are no longer welcome in France. Our regrets, however Prussian trade units are currently hampering French Troop movements. Please make sure they reach a destination next turn or remove them from French territory. Failure to do this will be considered an act of war. France will let you know when normal trade may resume. Russia is your ally, not ours, and she is the cause of this temporary shut down in trade. Again France regets this because trade benefits each side.

I would also STRONGLY suggest that Prussia and Austria keep there meager fleets out of major sea lanes. Blocking sea lanes eastward in any way will be considered an act of war.

Monetary support sent to Sweden.

Italian city of Reggio captured.

And you can kiss my arse about trying to agitate a war. I have done nothing more than protect my rights. I even offered to let you take Ulm and Kassel as per the WF agreement and you declined.

You did offer, and I did decline. No point in wasting my troops against the Rhine forts when I might have needed them against you! ;)

As long as French troops do not infringe Prussian territory and scare our Peasants off their land, Prussia has no quarrel with France.

Now, do you think that's enough megaphone diplomacy for now...? :D

Originally posted by Patient English
Now, do you think that's enough megaphone diplomacy for now...? :D

What? you got to be kidding, the only thing better than being an insane Tsar is being a short guy with a HUGE ego!:D

Spain voices her support for her allies and declares war on Russia.

Massive movements in the Spanish fleet and army took place but for the time being these are classified. ;)

I bet Russia is gonna be real scared, Henrik..;)

Oh yes, I am sure of it ;)

The Swedish government is amazed at the strength of our Allies responce to the Russian agression. The money and weaponry they have all ready contributed is being put to good use, with a massive expansion of the Royal Swedish Army and Navy under way.

Little contact has been reported between Swedish and Russian forces this month, with the only notable action being the defeat of a Swedish Jager battalion in central Finland.

In accordance to our alliance with the Swedes, British PM Pitt has delivered a declaration of war to the Russian ambassador. He urged the Russians to reconsider their act. It's not too late for a peace treaty.
However, if the Russians continue to fight, the British will not rest before St.-Petersburg is in our hands. It's your choice.
British military deployment in the Baltic also continues: the Danish capital of Copenhagen has been captured by Imperial British forces. A squadron of two-deckers has been sent towards Russian waters and will sink any Russian ships it sees.

OK, if Prussian trade is banned in France, ditto French trade in Prussia. Same penalty.

Prussian traders will complete trades or be withdrawn from France on the next Prussian turn. No Prussian ships will block a sealane by themselves, although if other nations' ships come alongside ours and do so after we have moved, it is out of our control....

I am Prussia ally from before Russia, this is a matter outside of our agreement. However it appears to us that France is being incredibly unfair towards Prussia. Austria bans any French trade and requests that French forces stay off Austrian soil.

Originally posted by voltar
I am Prussia ally from before Russia, this is a matter outside of our agreement. However it appears to us that France is being incredibly unfair towards Prussia. Austria bans any French trade and requests that French forces stay off Austrian soil.

I can appreciate your feeling it is unfair, however making an Ocean movement of this magnitude is going to take a considerable amount of effort and I cant have your trade units in my way.

Plus I find it very unfair that your ally is launching a war of aggression against my ally and as far as I can tell neither one of you is trying to do anything about it.

Thats just Geo politics folks.

And just remember I said I regretted having to do it, and Ill let you know when I can open the roads again. So dont read to much into this. Its is strictly a movement restriction to keep my roads free.

Unless of course one of you would like to give me passage to Russia over your roads? But then we all know that isn't going to happen is it?:crazyeye:

Nope..;)

I have no major objection to your embargo, just bear in mind it is reciprocated....

Tsar Alexander was saddened by the news from the west.

Russia have no quarrels with either France, Spain and Britain. We will however defend our homeland against any foreign invaders at all cost. Our war against Sweden might seem aggressive, but as already explained it is with a sole purpose to limit Sweden’s influence in the Baltic’s. Russia's ambitions does not extend beyond the Baltic’s. But we do consider any Swedish holdings outside Sweden itself a direct threat to the Russian dominance in the region. If our demands are met, the war will end without any further bloodshed.

Originally posted by sas
Tsar Alexander was saddened by the news from the west.

Russia have no quarrels with either France, Spain and Britain. We will however defend our homeland against any foreign invaders at all cost. Our war against Sweden might seem aggressive, but as already explained it is with a sole purpose to limit Sweden’s influence in the Baltic’s. Russia's ambitions does not extend beyond the Baltic’s. But we do consider any Swedish holdings outside Sweden itself a direct threat to the Russian dominance in the region. If our demands are met, the war will end without any further bloodshed.

The Four Powers of Britian France Sweden and Spain have a defensive Alliance. This has been previously published openly in this thread.

I dont give a $hit what your reasons or ambitions are. If you attack one you attack all and will pay the price.

The only alternative at this point is to back down, drop your demands and pay reparations to the Swedes.

And it isn't negotiable. You started the war not us. And you at least should have known about our defensive alliance. We did not keep it a secret.

The choice is yours........

Gotta admit he's right, SAS! ;) However, I'm sure foreign expeditions into the Russian fastness will meet the traditional fate...:)

Originally posted by Patient English
Gotta admit he's right, SAS! ;) However, I'm sure foreign expeditions into the Russian fastness will meet the traditional fate...:)


Hmmm are you encouraging or discouraging or remaining strictly nuetral on this war of aggression? I think it would be in your best interest to remain CRYSTAL CLEAR on this issue.

Just a friendly peice of advice...................

I am remaining strictly neutral. I sympathise with SAS since (1) he is my ally - albeit a defensive one - and (2) since I have done the same as him in Game # 5 where I am Russia.

However, he declared this war with his eyes open, and has not asked for my assistance or permission first....That's the way it remains.

Clear enough, O Height-Challenged One? ;)

Yep it sure is thank you.

I however dont have a problem with the size of the ego of course!:lol: :lol:

Some very "fruitful" trade between Stettin and Bristol. ;) The funds gained used to fund improved industrialisation in Prussia.

Mechanics' skills sent to Russia in exchange for Russian Cavalry instructors expert in the military use of the lance.

All quiet in Austria-Hungary

Russia mobilises for war!

All over Russia, the order to mobilise have been given. Forces from all across Russia is heading for the baltic region to support the war against Sweden. A large part of the Turkish army have been ordered home as well, so protect Russias southern flank.

-Swedish forces south and east of Aabo destroyed.

-The remainder of the Turkish army captures the allready battered city Mosul.

Massive Mobilization East Continues.

Trade Delivered to Portugal.

Henrik is up

The Spanish Navy is on the move... ;)

Bump Case, 3 Days

A major redeployment of Swedish troops is currently underway. The Russian beasts will be made to pay a terrible price for every step they take into Swedish territory!

*Russian brig sunk north of Heraklion. With the declaration of war by the British, a Prussian general, Axel Infurgo, declared war on the British empire. An official stance of the Prussian government is still awaited.
*After last months investments, money has been saved to pump in the British economy next month.

Britain declared war on Russia, yes? As stated before, Prussia is neutral in this war. I'll offer you a civdip peace on my go....

Axel is having in-depth discussions with the Koenig's torturers right now...;)

Yop as far as I know all the conversations Ive had with John on this one is he is nuetral.

Lets keep it that way, plenty of VP's in Russia!:D