I do not usually turn on AIM unless I know I want to talk with someone - usually arranged by email beforehand.

I also didn't know Waku had volunteered to be subbed. However, it IS getting to be a rather long lag. You have emailed him, I guess? If so - umpires play on where you have the password.

If not - I shall email him for his passwords - AoA and WF volunteered them without too much effort on my part. That would be best. Otherwise, we ask Henrik to strip them or let the AI play his move.

I do not usually turn on AIM unless I know I want to talk with someone - usually arranged by email beforehand.

I also didn't know Waku had volunteered to be subbed. However, it IS getting to be a rather long lag. You have emailed him, I guess? If so - umpires play on where you have the password.

If not - I shall email him for his passwords - AoA and WF volunteered them without too much effort on my part. That would be best. Otherwise, we ask Henrik to strip them or let the AI play his move.

Whoa, the fabled triple post! :eek:

Originally posted by Patient English
I do not usually turn on AIM unless I know I want to talk with someone - usually arranged by email beforehand.

I also didn't know Waku had volunteered to be subbed. However, it IS getting to be a rather long lag. You have emailed him, I guess? If so - umpires play on where you have the password.

If not - I shall email him for his passwords - AoA and WF volunteered them without too much effort on my part. That would be best. Otherwise, we ask Henrik to strip them or let the AI play his move.

Roger that on AIM and Ill play for Waku sometime tonight I hope, you and I need to finish talking on Boney 3, as you know I hate breaking deals:D

In our roles as Umpires I think we need to start getting everyones password, and if we change a player we need to stay current on the passwords. My guess is that most of you do not have all the passwords for the games you are Umpiring in. And then we get into a situation like we have right now, where most of the games have come to a halt, so I would suggest you all spend sometime getting passwords in the next couple of weeks.

Thanks:D

I think that the time has come to declare Waku AWOL and find a replacement. At present, he's the only non-reliable player, and is robbing this tournament of the momentum it so dearly needs.

Agreed Case. We should play on where possible..


Sorry about the triple post...CFC has been a bit erratic the last few days and when I hit "post", weird things happen....

;)

More tomorrow, when I am sober....:lol:

Originally posted by Patient English
Agreed Case. We should play on where possible..


Sorry about the triple post...CFC has been a bit erratic the last few days and when I hit "post", weird things happen....

;)

More tomorrow, when I am sober....:lol:

John when you sober up you have been hereby elected to contact Manolo for the passwords or else it is strip time again. And then the umpires NEED to get passwords. I might go get me a wee bit of Glenlivet again. I dont want to feel left out.:D

I have emailed him. Let us wait for 24 hours.....

Originally posted by Patient English
I have emailed him. Let us wait for 24 hours.....

John what the devil are you doing up this late? AIM me and I just sent you a long email:

Handle is of course: conmcb25

I have to sneak away from the g/f when I can...;)

Actually, it's not that bad - and for the next 3 weekends, starting now, I should be able to play develop Civ without interuption as she stays at her sister's on babysitting duty.

I will look on AIM every time I connect. I am Patient1815.

As we have had (and will soon have again) some changes of personnel, I think it would be a good idea if we ALL sent our passwords again to the umpires of the games we are in.

Waku, I will do this for you, as I have your passwords now.

Please do this even if you did it originally, because emails can get lost. Of course, don't do it again if you have done it in the last couple of days.

Thanks...:)

Hey all... I've been off conquering exams instead of Europe, but they're all beaten now so I'm back :)

I'd be happy to fill in for Waku for a while; however, I'm not sure if I can permanently take that spot. I've come to realise that this tourney is rather a big commitment, and I'd hate to let all you guys down again :o ...

But then again, the two-month summer holidays have just started down here in Australia, so who knows ;)

Originally posted by Winterfritz
Hey all... I've been off conquering exams instead of Europe, but they're all beaten now so I'm back :)

I'd be happy to fill in for Waku for a while; however, I'm not sure if I can permanently take that spot. I've come to realise that this tourney is rather a big commitment, and I'd hate to let all you guys down again :o ...

But then again, the two-month summer holidays have just started down here in Australia, so who knows ;)

Yea! WF is back, just in the nick of time!:D

Originally posted by conmcb25


Gentlemen

I believe it is time to begin emailing the next person when you have finished a turn. Even the mighty Bump King let one slip by this week.

My proposal is this and it has been discussed before in the thread.

Email after the turn, Bump at 48 Hours, Umpire plays at 72 h ours.

Guys do you all remember this? I believe it is really important that we all take a minute or so after our turns and email the next guy, a lot of the delays I have been discovering in the last couple of weeks is because folks dont realize it is there turn, I have a feeling this may really speed up the tourney.

And I for one would like to move forward before we get another series of complicated substitutions that gives me a headache and forces John to drink excessively...........:lol:

Thanks Guys, I would really appreciate this!:D

Darius,

Could you check you email is OK? I get this from my SMTP server:

Your e-mail is being returned to you because there was a problem with its
delivery. The address which was undeliverable is listed in the section
labeled: "----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----".

The reason your mail is being returned to you is listed in the section
labeled: "----- Transcript of Session Follows -----".

The line beginning with "<<<" describes the specific reason your e-mail could
not be delivered. The next line contains a second error message which is a
general translation for other e-mail servers.

Please direct further questions regarding this message to your e-mail
administrator.

--AOL Postmaster



----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<therock871@aol.com>

Maybe your mailbox is full?

:confused: :confused: :confused:

That can't be it, I've been getting emails from all sorts of other sources without a problem. Just send to my university email I guess, that's all I can think of.

Why dont you guys just AIM each other? Thats if either one of you would turn it on of course..........:D

I'm on my uni access at the moment, so I can only use MSN. For that matter, why don't you get that? :p

Originally posted by Darius
I'm on my uni access at the moment, so I can only use MSN. For that matter, why don't you get that? :p

Ya OK and add it to the other other dozen IM's Ive downloaded.

Wht cant we all use one kind, sure would make it easier!:D

For one AOL doesn't let MSN work (probably on purpose). The new version 8.0 does allow MSN, ICQ, etc. to use its connection, but anyone with an old version can only use AIM :mad:

I am registered with ICQ (although I don't like it), but I am ideologically opposed to MSN. My ID is in my profile, but I am happiest with AIM, and have recommended it for the tournament. My ID is on post '#2 of this thread.

As Steve says, I often don't turn it on, though, and for passwords, emails are better (you have a permanent record). I will try your other email addy.

To all

Im probally going to do one of my global bumps later this evening
0300 GMT or tommorrow morning 1500 GMT. If you are an umpire in Waku's games you should have the password and if its behind you need to umpire thru, and if you are late in one of your turns you need to play on. Hopefully Winterfritz will come back again soon and be able to take over for Waku. Waku told me on AIM today he is officially retired. Sorry to see him go he was pretty reliable after bumping up to last week, he told me he is just getting busy in real life, something about chasing girls. I wish you guys would all catch a regular one so we could get down to serious business with you all well focused in this tourney........:D

So check the threads, play your turns, and send an email to the next guy.

And begin thinking of how we are going to eventually replace Darius, he does not want to stay with the tourney for the long term, he is only subbing as a favor to all of us and I for one appreciate him doing this. So put your thinking caps on and lets find a replacement. OK?

Gotta run its glenlivet time! (John Ive been spending to much time with you in the threads, you're a bad influence on me!):lol: :lol:

Here is the latest

#8. Voltar needs to Umpire for Waku-5days

#6. SAS -5days

The above two are the only ones I bumped to the top of the thread. (Are you happy Darius?)

#5 Darius -2.5 days

#3. Patient- 2 days

#2 Darius needs to umpire for Waku- 2.5 days

#4 Patient - 1.5 days

#7 Darius- 1.0 days

#1 Darius- 0.5 days

Now as you can see from this I even bumped myself after 3 days. And why? Because I did not get my courtesy email! And I forgot all about it. So please send the email when you finish a turn. And Darius I dont like doing it this way and I wouldn't be surprised if I screwed up something above, so until someone else wants to do a global bump every couple of days Im back to control panel jamming after this. Sorry but it is a lot easier for me and takes me less time. :D

Edit; Yep I screwed it up Darius is up in #5. Sorry about the confusion but between the kids and the ball in chain it is difficult to concentrate. Back to control panel jamming next time around, and if I get a chance in a few hours Ill send emails to the players at 2 plus days late. PLEASE EVERYONE SEND OUT A COURTESY EMAIL TO THE NEXT PLAYER AFTER YOUR TURN! Thanks!:D

The ball and chain thinks Im a sicko for doing this. But then she just doesn't understand, something about being to "Hormonal". :D

I am very sorry I have not played my turns. The CFC automailer has not alerted me. I shall play tonight! :o

Thanks for doing this Steve. Tell your wife you are crucial to the war effort - just don't mention which war....:D

Originally posted by Patient English
I am very sorry I have not played my turns. The CFC automailer has not alerted me. I shall play tonight! :o

Thanks for doing this Steve. Tell your wife you are crucial to the war effort - just don't mention which war....:D

John I dont think the auto mailer is working for anyone, and Ill try the deception tactics on the warden, dont know if it will work though..............:lol:

That would explain it....OK, I shall have to surf the threads more often.

All played up to date now. Voltar mailed in both games that's he's now up.

I've started to mail the next person too. Like conmcb25 said, we should send a courtesy email to the next person.

Originally posted by sas
I've started to mail the next person too. Like conmcb25 said, we should send a courtesy email to the next person.

Thanks sas for getting on the band wagon!:D :goodjob: :goodjob:

Ill be out of pocket for about the next 36 - 48 hours. Im driving to Green Bay Wisconsin to see the oldest rivalry in the National Football League the Chicago Beas vs The Green Bay Packers at the NFL's most hallowed ground Lambeau Feild. Ive wanted to see this game at Lambeau all my life, well at least since Ive been a kid. And I finally executed two individuals which is just about the only way to get tickets to this game. For you Europeans this is like getting tickets to the biggest rivalry you have in your Football after years of trying. Same thing for our Australian contingent. See you guys again on Monday (or tuesday in OZ.)
And please try to stay caught up in my absence! Thanks!:D

Thought I'd post here as well as the #5 thread since it'd get more attention here. Someone has been using Lazyciv in game #5, and as far as I can see you all agreed not to use it. Have you guys changed that policy somewhere behind the scenes that I don't know about? :confused: Or is it indeed banned, and someone accidentally use Lazyciv from force of habit?

Well it aint me, and I can pretty much guarentee it is not Henrik.:D

i have stopped using Lazyciv as well :)

What do you mean 'stopped'? I thought it wasn't allowed at all.

No change to policy. LazyCiv is not to be used.

We can load each save game going back until we find who did it, or they can own up. So please own up and save me the work!

No sanction this time, but they must promise not to do it again. It is unfair for some to use it, and others not.

Originally posted by Darius
What do you mean 'stopped'? I thought it wasn't allowed at all.

Darius some of the guys were using lazy civ as usual when the tourney started then for various reasons it was decided not to use it any longer. Hence the "i have stopped using Lazyciv as well". So it was used here in the past but is now disallowed or unallowed, or whatever the term is.

Well then is it a possibility that people just forgot to rename their cities after the agreement was made? On closer inspection I'm noticing that the only city names affected are French and Russian ones, while many long names in other civs are untouched. This makes me think that perhaps those two players just forgot to rename the affected cities after the agreement.

However this can only be verified by seeing whether the names have been screwed up since the first turn, or just recently, and I'm too lazy to look through them.

Well I would check out the lazy civ violater, but it is not in my union contract, I was strictly hired to Bump, and thats what I do! So until you guys renegotiate my union contract forget it. Someone else needs to check.:D

Gentlemen

The following is my post #172 from Boney 2:

"Sorry John, being the very hierachial (is that a word) guy that I am I consider you the boss as the overall tourney coordinator, umpire or whatever you are. That is just me. Spent to much time in the military, chain of command and all that.

My whole point being that it is going to be a real pain checking my cities every turn to make sure I dont build a palace, I guess I could wait till I build one and then sell it but it would be quite a waste of sheilds, which with a major war going on I can not afford to waste.

Whatever all decide is OK by me, and we have time, since I just played my turn. I just dont want to have to do a lot of work correcting this less than desireable AI.

I think we ought to reconsider this for the tourney as well, someone else is bound to lose there capitol sooner or later and this issue will resurface again. Wish I would have known the AI was going to do this when I essentially made the initial decision.. Thanks!"

And Johns post #173 from Boney 2: "Ok, well as Boss, I reckon we are all happy for you to let the AI build that Palace, Steve. Waku has voted by not voting, if you see what I mean. "

Since we all voted for it Im going to let the AI build the palace this turn as it seems to pick a different city every time. So if you are against this you had better speak your mind before my next turn. Im just bringing this up again because I dont want someone to make it an issue AFTER the palace is built.

Also I believe we need to consider whether this is allowed tournament wide or not. Sooner or later someone else is going to lose a capitol and this will come up again. My vote is to let it be OK to build a palace. As a mater of fact my vote precisely is we all change the one word in the rules text to let us build the palace where we want.

Questions, Thoughts?:)

edited: obsolete

As I recall initially we decided that a civ that loses it's capital loses the game (that might've been in one of the test pbems though).
As people are now allowed to continue, I guess it should be allowed for everyone.

Yes, Henrik. The Capital cities rule was for another game.

I am happy to let Palaces be rebuilt wherever. Go ahead, Steve.

SAS posted this on another thread. MORE REASON TO GET PASSWORDS FORE THE GAME YOU ARE THE UMPIRE IN!

So get the passwords and be prepared to umpire if necessary!
So far Ive only been asked for passwords in two games. We need to do this folks! Thanks!:eek:

"Computer crash!!
My computer is out of order at the moment. It literally started to burn when i installed a new RAM chip. This is caused by a manufactor error on the "ram slot" in the motherboard. So i need to replace it completely.

It may take 3-4 days to do this and i cant play any games untill then at the earliest.

In the Bonaparte Games, the umpires should play for me. Allthough i'm unable to supply the passwords needed. Or you could wait for me if you feel like it.

And the same goes for the other games. I promise i will be back as soon as possible, and i hope that will be before the weekend. But i cant make any promises, except that i'm doing my best getting a new motherboard that doesnt suck

Sas"

I second Steve's comment. I have sent out my passwords, everybody please do this NOW!

I vote we wait for SAS. As long as he is ready by the weekend. A Computer crash is an act of God, in my view, and should be given more leeway than a simple weekend of partying!

:borg: = :beer: + :beer: + :beer:

I hope to be able to give a more specific time on when i get my computer in working order by tomorrow. I may even get a temp. replacement computer if all else failes.

I WILL play by the weekend, i hope :)

Well, while we have this splendid break, shall we solve this lazyciv thing or not? The thread took a different direction all of a sudden, and I have a turn to play once this is sorted out.

Here it is again guys:

Boney 6: Case-6 days, Voltar did you send Case an email?
Boney 4: Case-6days, SAS did you send Case an email?
Boney 1: Patient Umpire Move- 3days, Darius did you email?
Boney 5: Darius-10 days_ Lazy Civ Witch Hunt! :flamedevi
Boney 3: SAS- 6 days, computer problem you need to play as soon as you are able SAS!
Boney 7: Patient- 3 says. Voltar did you send an email?
Boney 2: Darius Umpire Move-10 days, do you have the password from Patient?
Boney 8: Patient-1.5 days, Voltar did you send an email?

Im not emailing out this time because Im not going to have a chance. So hopefully all will look here.:D

BUMP BUMP:spank: :spank: BUMP BUMP

Two things;

1. Darius needs to solve the mystery of Lazy Civ in Boney 5. So who is going to fess up. Confess your sins so we may purify you by torture! :flamedevi :whipped: Just kidding of course, please someone offer an explanation so we can get on with Boney 5.

2. The Palace gambit, see my previous post if you have a problem with it let me know now or forever hold your peace. This is the last time Im going to ask.

Have a good weekend, Im camping with my kids and the Boy Scouts until sunday so I wont be around till then.

"May the rule of the Bump king be long and prosperous!"

:king: :king:

Dammit I'm sorry John, when I got your PM I thought to myself 'It'll be there when I get to the turn', and then lo and behold I cleared out my inbox a day later. :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :suicide:

Btw thanks for listing them here Steve, maybe a nice thumbs up would be enough to make you take the time. :goodjob:

Originally posted by Darius
Btw thanks for listing them here Steve, maybe a nice thumbs up would be enough to make you take the time. :goodjob:

I dont mind and dont forget I LIVE to BUMP!, I just dont have the time today to send out emails so I hope everyone looks here, gotta run.:D

It seems i wont get my main computer back in order untill the end if next week. But i have set up my old computer again, and can continue to play the game. :D

But i have lost all my passwords, so we need someone to crack/remove the password for me. Anyone?? :p

Originally posted by sas
It seems i wont get my main computer back in order untill the end if next week. But i have set up my old computer again, and can continue to play the game. :D

But i have lost all my passwords, so we need someone to crack/remove the password for me. Anyone?? :p

:lol: OH my god is this tourney cursed or what?:lol:
SAS I got yours for Boney 6 Ill send it back to you, Im sorry it is not really funny but I couldn't help laughing, and SAS gets the smiley face for the week for that extra effort to proceed on with the Tourney:D :cool: :) ;) :lol:

If the current player in all games remove thier passwords and send the saves to me I can void all passwords from the saves (don't worry I won't peek ;)).

It is only Game #3 that needs the passwords removed at the moment. And at the current pace, i guess i will have my main comp back before i'm up in the other games.

Dammit I'm sorry John, when I got your PM I thought to myself 'It'll be there when I get to the turn', and then lo and behold I cleared out my inbox a day later. :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :suicide:

In other words, resend. ;)

I need someone to remove the password in game#8

Henrik, Darius??

Done. :)

Darius, I PM'd you the password again and posted the fact on the Home Thread.

...yeah, and I played the turn. ;)

Copied and reposted from Game #7 thread:

Steve,

Your counterattack was not only fair - it is exactly the best British
reposte to an invasion. (Including the Naval blockade - top marks!) If the French pile too may troops in where there are no NonCombatants, it is their risk, and they may lose such a stack as you describe. In the real world, it wasn't French invasion that was so impossible, it was the logistics involved in supplying and re-inforcing the invasion in the teeth of the Royal Navy that stopped Napoleon.

Darius is correct, you cannot have a stack on a city square, underlying the city. If the city goes, the square is unstackable until re-built upon or fortressed.

Please play on. This is totally within the known game mechanics, both of my scenario and Civ II generally.

While we are on the subject - if anyone, as a tactical ploy, pillages a stackable square they think an enemy army is about to move into so they can wipe them all out in one counterattack if their enemy doesn't notice, I would have to rule that this is again within the rules and is a valid Civ ploy. However, I think it is against the spirit of the game, so please don't do it.

Steve's dilemma is different, because the way Civ works forces him to take advantage of the absence of stackability, and not to do so would give him a maasive disadvantage.

Originally posted by Patient English
If the French pile too may troops in where there are no NonCombatants, it is their risk.

Well in my defense I had nowhere else to put them. ;)

Anyway my opinion that I voiced to Steve was to go ahead, but it seemed worth discussing since the 'one attacker for one defender' realism of this scenario really is lost. You're correct, the destruction of entire stacks is part of CivII and should be acceptable, but on the other hand the stackables are part of Bonaparte II and the realism is lost when that change is gone.

If he said 'I had 15 units lying around but I only needed one to kill your stack', I wouldn't lose sleep over it. But from his own words he had about two or three units left nearby after my attack, and he wouldn't have taken Dover had it not burned.

Originally posted by Patient English
Copied and reposted from Game #7 thread:

While we are on the subject - if anyone, as a tactical ploy, pillages a stackable square they think an enemy army is about to move into so they can wipe them all out in one counterattack if their enemy doesn't notice, I would have to rule that this is again within the rules and is a valid Civ ploy.

IMHO it should be considered bonafide cheating. In the 2194 games here we agreed to officially ban it.

Originally posted by Patient English
Steve's dilemma is different, because the way Civ works forces him to take advantage of the absence of stackability, and not to do so would give him a maasive disadvantage.

Well I could just as easily say that doing so would put me at a massive disadvantage. ;) I wouldn't necessarily call doing it taking unfair advantage of a limitation of the game engine, but I would say it'd be a nice courtesy to not attack them. I can confidently say that if I were in his position I would leave the stack be, but if he attacks it I won't be mad. Kudos to Steve for at least asking though. :goodjob:

I think we will have to accept that there is a certain risk in stacking too many units in one city.

I remember at one time in the game i play as France i had over 50 units in one city, just prior to the invasion of England. Imagine the brits landing and razing the city? :eek: :eek:

Thanks John for clearing this up, altough I agree with Darius deliberately pillaging hexes should be banned and considered cheating. Ill post number 7 later today. Thanks!:D

He guys, if you still need someone, I could replace one of the absent players. :)

Originally posted by Yop73
He guys, if you still need someone, I could replace one of the absent players. :)

John/ Case we got a live one! My reccomendation is he replace Waku!

What do you guys think?

If so John please PM Yop the passwords. He rarely uses email.

Thanks:D

1) I'm glad you agree that putting more units than a city has citizens, where no Non-Combatant improvement exists, is a risk taken by the attacker, and the defender can wipe them all out fairly if he gets the chance. Bear mind: (a) Non-Combatants take only one move to build and are cheap and (b) if you expect an immediate counterattack place your defenders OUTSIDE the city. Also, the situation of all troops surrendering in a city DID happen, especially when the city burnt.

2) I am happy to rule that pillaging forts is out. Pillaging roads and crops is totally fair though.

3) I vote Yop is allowed to take over from Waku. I am playing in a Colonies game with him at the moment - although be warned - he has a mischevious sense of humour!

If you all post or email me your agreement, he is in.

Originally posted by Patient English
3) I vote Yop is allowed to take over from Waku. I am playing in a Colonies game with him at the moment - although be warned - he has a mischevious sense of humour!

If you all post or email me your agreement, he is in.

John sounds like he will fit right in, I vote yes.:D :mischief:

What means mischevious??? It wasn't in the dictionary. Is it something bad? :(

Originally posted by Yop73
What means mischevious??? It wasn't in the dictionary. Is it something bad? :(

No actually in the context it was used and to help us all maintain our sanity it is good.:D

From the Webster's AMERICAN Dictionary. (I say that because the British and Americans are two peoples separated by a common language.........:mischief: )

I believe John intended the second definition in the dictionary which reads: "irresponsibly playfull (-behavoir)"

And for this thread that is a very good thing........:mischief:

I'd be glad to see Yop on board.

If you are still needing another player, I'd like to toss my hat in the ring again, granted a bit premature when I posted a desire to play awhile back... but have since gotten involved in other PBEM's and gotten an idea how everything works.

As long as you can stay committed to the tournament i say welcome aboard. But plase remember that this tournament will last probably a year or so. So expect to be stuck with the game for a long time ;)

SAS you forgot to vote for Yop, yea or nay which is it?

And welcome to diatribe and I can vouch for him, he has been reliable in the PBEM's I have played with him. So John consider this a yes vote for diatribe.

I scored two today with my ad campaign, the BUMP KING has now become a "Fisher of Men".

And I will go ahead and personnally give myself a smiley face for the week.:D

Originally posted by Patient English
Bear mind: (a) Non-Combatants take only one move to build and are cheap and (b) if you expect an immediate counterattack place your defenders OUTSIDE the city.

a) Of course you can't rebuild them in a city that goes back and forth every single turn.

b) I did move all of them outside the city, but coincidentally about 7 of them had no more movement points.

Anyway, welcome aboard Yop! :)

I vote yes for both Yop and Diatribe :D

Me too.

That looks to be just about it, then. Yop plays for Waku and Diatribe for Chris/Darius, then?

I will send Yop Waku's passwords tonight. Diatribe, please send me you email and any AIM ID so I can post them at the top of this thread. Yop, I have your email, but not any AIM ID you might have.

And Darius,

a) Of course you can't rebuild them in a city that goes back and forth every single turn.

No you can't, but you should fight outside cities until you have build non-combatants. If your troops have no movement points left, don't ship them in over and above the citizen size of the city. If I could make Non-Combatants non-plunderable - or even an automatic part of a city's attributes, I would have done.

email wgreiter@texas.net Aol IM is wgreiter111

Thanks. I have added you at the thread header.

"And they brought forth new life and prospered."

I certainly hope this tourney can take off and move now. Welcome to my Colonies Buddies Diatribe and Yop, this tourney is fun. It will be a bit of work at the beginning trying to figure out what is going on but after that it really is pretty easy to keep up.

I hope you two have as much fun as I have been having.:D

Eeexxcelent.... rubbing the back of my hands over and over really fast. Let me get all my ducks in a row.

Sorry, but I don't have AIM. :(

I (belatedly) vote in favour of Yop and Diatribe :)

I knew you would, Case...;)

John, can you change my mailadress to sastokke@broadpark.no ?

So done.

Ok, I have turns up in #4 and #6. Can I assume that Bill will play them soon and leave them?

I'll go ahead and take em off your hands

Well that's it then, godspeed gentlemen. :)

Originally posted by Darius
Well that's it then, godspeed gentlemen. :)

Dont get to exicted to leave Darius I believe you maybe elected to be our official sub if someone has vacation or whatever since you of course are so familiar with the Tourney. And after you have been so mean to me in this Tourney and other games it is the least you can do! :lol: :lol:

Been a while and with Darius gone I can control panel jam again! Yea!

Boney2-Case-2hours

Boney8-conmcb25-4days

Boney7-Case-4 days

Boney1-conmcb25-3 days

Boney3-Henrik-3 days

Boney4-Diatribe-2.5 days

Boney6-Diatribe-2.5 days

Boney5-conmcb25-2 days

So since Im the biggest offender I DO NOT get a smiley face this week :(

Smiley face goes to Diatribe and Yop for joining the Tourney! Yay!
:D :D

Appreciate the slack, haven't had much time to gather my marbles... trying to get an idea of how to approach this behemoth... I'll have game #4 and #6 up in a bit

The guy who replaced Waku is now up in game #2

Originally posted by Case
The guy who replaced Waku is now up in game #2


That guy is YOP73

So Yop73 replaced Waku

And Diatribe replaced Darius who replaced that other guy, what was his name? Oh AoA or something like that.

And the best way to get ahold of YOP is via PM, he does not check email that much. If you need to send him an attachment make sure he knows he is going to get an email.

Question.... trading, gifting techs, money, units and such... any of this need to be reported directly to the thread or can it be kept under the rug?

Question.... trading, gifting techs, money, units and such... any of this need to be reported directly to the thread or can it be kept under the rug?

Good point. Keep it under the rug by all means, but it would be amusing for all of us to hint at it: E.g. "This summer, British engineers have been touring or factories, offering advice on possible improvements..."

No obligation, and if you wish to hint at a trade that never happened, to worry an enemy, please do so.

Like I said in the welcome email I sent, sneak attacks and deceptive diplomacy are all within the spirit and the letter of the law for this tournament. That includes what you say in your posts. Of course, if you are caught out in lies too often, no-one will listen to you any more...

Case were you having problems with emails? I could not send you one the other day. I believe I finally forwarded it to you. Just wondering

Yeah, I'd been sent two 2Mb files, and my hotmail account has a maximum capacity of 1 Mb, so it was rejecting all the other emails sent to me. The problem is now fixed.

Just to let you all know....

I will be socialising pretty intensely between 12:00 on the 24th, and 12:00 on the 29th. Expect me not even to turn on my computer (probably a world record ;)). If you can get Game #6 and #2 to me by tomorrow, I will play them before I go off the air. (Bill & Henrik)

Have a great Christmas everyone! :D

Happy Holidays to all!

Here is the latest status, I personnally will not play any games till after XMASS.

Boney1-Henrik-3days
Boney2-conmcb25-4 hours
Boney3-Case-4 days (Case see the thread)
Boney4-Patient- 3.5 days (John missed this one!)
Boney5-Diatribe-1.5 days
Boney6-SAS-0.5 days (Henrik we need a password strip here)
Boney7-Diatribe-1.5 days
Boney8-Henrik-3.5 days

SAS no smiley face for you AGAIN! I did not get my reminder email for Boney 2!

And do we wait for John on Boney4 or umpire thru!

Smiley Face goes to Yop for his agressive Bumping! :D

OH What the hell you all get a smiley face since it is almost XMASS!
:D :cool: :lol:

(SAS this is the last time Im cutting you slack on the smiley faces!:D )

PS Notice the "perfect" control panel jam, all lined up in order! Im getting good at this!

Originally posted by conmcb25
PS Notice the "perfect" control panel jam, all lined up in order! Im getting good at this!

Aaaahh, freedom from your bump tyranny, it's like a warm blanket. :love:

John Welcome back to the world of sobriety!:D

Yeah. Thanks. It's cold, it's wet and I've put on about 10 pounds.

:(

Still, Civ has been reinstated, so it can't be all bad! :D

Here we go again, and of course notice the "Perfect Control Panel Jam".

Im getting so good at this Im beginning to amaze myself!

Here is the latest status:

Boney 1 - Diatribe-6 days
Boney 2- Yop- 6days
Boney 3- Diatribe-9 days
Boney 4- SAS- 5days, needs a password strip!
Boney 5 - Henrik - 1 day
Boney 6- Henrik- Almost 2 days
Boney 7 - Henrik - 1.5 days
Boney 8 - Yop - 7 days

Hey John, could you update the player lists at the start of each thread? I'm having trouble remembering who's replaced who :o

Yeah, I know what you mean. Basically, where it said AoA, it's now Diatribe.

Where it said Waku, it's now Yop.

However, I will update the threads.

And dont forget where it is Winterfritz it is now conmcb25.

Now that we have a stable workgorce it would probally be a good time for a change.

Thanks John

OK, I'll do this tonight

I was wondering about trading/gifting religious techs... seems John put some thought in this and probably not feasable to put a different dress on you idols in 10 years. Should that be taboo? giving someone protestantism, catholicism or theology that doesn't have it... or is it nullified in the un-nationality techs?

You shouldn't be able to trade Catholicism or Protestantism. You CAN trade Theology, but I think everyone already has it....

In online sessions all techs can be traded John, including no, nos

True. I was thinking the question was asking if these trades with the AI were OK.

All the no, no techs (or ANYTECH, no) should not be traded.

I did some bumping, since the tournament was going incredibely slow.
The "perfect control jam" was only disrupted by SAS, who descided to do some bumping on his own. ;)
No hard feelings SAS. ;) :D

Going to be away for one week as of tomorow, is it ok to put the games on hold for that time?

Cool with me. I am up to my neck in Colonies IV. Are we all agreed?

Thats fine with me but Im still going to BUMP him while he is gone, and Im long overdue for a global BUMP. :D

sure, i'm okay with that.

But there are other people that needs further bumping it seems, and Diatribe is a prime candidate. I will make his move in Game #7 if he doesnt move by tomorrow evening.

Originally posted by sas
sure, i'm okay with that.

But there are other people that needs further bumping it seems, and Diatribe is a prime candidate. I will make his move in Game #7 if he doesnt move by tomorrow evening.


Go back and look at game 7 SAS.

:cool:

Just to let you guys know, I'm going to be in Europe all Febuary and obviously won't be able to play my turns. Darius has agreed to fill in for me.

Dam it Case why couldn't you go in March, it looks like Ill be in London for the month of March. We could have had a few beers in the Pub with John. Not Fosters of course.:D

it's reall weird. I'm in so many PBEMs and still i find myself being fustrated at the slow pace of the games :(

Originally posted by conmcb25
Dam it Case why couldn't you go in March, it looks like Ill be in London for the month of March. We could have had a few beers in the Pub with John. Not Fosters of course.:D

I'm not going anywhere near England - I'm going to Rome, Florence, Venice and Paris. Seeing as I don't speak a word of Italian or French, it should be interesting :D

As for March: I do have to go to university you know ;)

Originally posted by sas
it's reall weird. I'm in so many PBEMs and still i find myself being fustrated at the slow pace of the games :(

Same here man, people ask how I can handle 20+ games, and I say that most of them finish a round about once a week. :rolleyes: Some haven't moved in several weeks; I shouldn't even count them as games I'm 'in'. :(

Originally posted by Case
I'm not going anywhere near England - I'm going to Rome, Florence, Venice and Paris.

Cool, that roughly mirrors my trip this summer, it was a blast. This is your first time there I take it?

Originally posted by Darius
Cool, that roughly mirrors my trip this summer, it was a blast. This is your first time there I take it?

Yeah, and I'm really looking forward to it.

However, it will also be my first experiance of a European winter which I'm not looking forward to at all. :cry:

Well I wish I had gone to Italy in the winter, it was hot! France would suck about now though. :(

Originally posted by Darius
France would suck about now though. :(

Seeing as you live (presumably by choice) in a place where the lakes freeze, that's the most terrifying sentance I've read in a long time! :eek:

[actually, the weather in Paris doesn't seem to be too bad - it seems to go from low negative temperatures to low postive ones]

Well all I know is I had to wear a winter coat there in July. ;)

It sounds like Canberra then ;)

Originally posted by Darius
Well all I know is I had to wear a winter coat there in July. ;)

You must have been seriously unlucky with the weather during your stay. I have been to Paris several times in the summer, and allmost without exception had warm and nice weather.

And even now it shouldnt be so bad, perhaps 7-10 degrees celcius.

Things must be quiet in the Tournament if all you can talk about is the weather! I thought that was a British affliction...;)

If you're going to talk about Paris, you could at least mention the Parisiennes. :love:

Originally posted by Patient English
If you're going to talk about Paris, you could at least mention the Parisiennes. :love:

Hehe, thought perhaps we should keep it a secret and let it be a suprice. ;)



And about the tournament, things are VERY quiet. Perhaps we should get together the most active players and play bonaparte game. I'll bet we would be finished before the current games have collectively moved one more round. :mad:

Yeah! Why not? Bags the British or French..;)

Originally posted by Case
It sounds like Canberra then ;)

:eek: In my cartoon bubble I saw palm trees, hula dancers, and PM's swimming about to be eaten by sharks!

Originally posted by sas
Perhaps we should get together the most active players and play bonaparte game.

Hell I'll take a civ if there's room, I'm out of the tourney and the poly game got killed.

Would you have players for all the Civ's? Or are you doing online?

Originally posted by conmcb25
Would you have players for all the Civ's? Or are you doing online?

Online? Hell no! :D

I'm for all the civs, but ONLY CERTIFIED VERY BLOODY ACTIVE PLAYERS! :p

Originally posted by Darius
:eek: In my cartoon bubble I saw palm trees, hula dancers, and PM's swimming about to be eaten by sharks!

Then I think that you're the first person to ever confuse Canberra with Tahiti ;)

(BTW, the PM was eaten near Melbourne - Canberra is 200km from the sea)

Originally posted by sas


Online? Hell no! :D

I'm for all the civs, but ONLY CERTIFIED VERY BLOODY ACTIVE PLAYERS! :p

I guess that leaves me out.

I guess the bump king doesn't rate, and to think that comes from the guy who hasn't had a smiley face in weeks!:D

Originally posted by Case
(BTW, the PM was eaten near Melbourne - Canberra is 200km from the sea)

I know I know, it just fit in with the image. :lol:

Steve, you must qualify as THE MOST active civ player 'round here, especially if bumping is counted as civilised behaviour!

Who do you want to take?

Anyway, i would like to take another shot at Russia :)

Originally posted by Patient English
Steve, you must qualify as THE MOST active civ player 'round here, especially if bumping is counted as civilised behaviour!

Who do you want to take?

John it depends upon who you take. That age and treachery thing you know!:D

Sweden for me unless Henrik has a problem with it. ;)

I'll take the British then. See you on the beaches, Ski!

Originally posted by Patient English
I'll take the British then. See you on the beaches, Ski!

Hmmm I was thinking you were going to take the Frogs, this does make my decision harder, Ill have to talk to SAS and then Ill decide.

:D

I am going to do a global bump sometime today, and if ANY of you guys talking about another game are behind, Im going to be REALLY rude in the way I bump you. BTW John bumping is not civilized behavoir, but being an American, I enjoy and thrive on being a barbarian.:D

First of all notice once again the perfect control panel jam. The only bad thing is Darius isnt in the Tourney anymore so I cant irritate him with it. Darn!

Here is the latest:

Boney 1: Case 5 minutes
Boney 2: Yop 3 days
Boney 3: Case 6.5 days
Boney 4: Diatribe 2 days
Boney 5: Diatribe 6.5 days
Boney 6: Case 3 days
Boney 7: Case 2.5 days
Boney 8: Henrik: 6 days

Lets saddle up and move out the turns boys!:D

Smiley face goes to John this week for getting us Colonies 4 to Playtest! Thanks JOHN!

Runner up goes to Case for sending me a reminder.

SAS are you jealous?:D

Oh I'm still irritated. :mad:

Originally posted by Darius
Oh I'm still irritated. :mad:

Yea! :D

I would have played my turns last night, but the power was out due to the massive bushfire which hit Canberra yesterday. If things stay calm today (*fingers crossed*) I'll play my turns later today or tommorow.

Wow, be safe man. :(

Case I sw your post at HB, sounds pretty amazing. Im glad you are OK! And like Darius said be safe!:goodjob:

Thanks guys.
The internet in Canberra is really unreliable at the moment, so I can't download or post saves. I'll play my turns as soon as I can.

As for the fires; the weather is now more favourable and there are now a hell of a lot of fire fighters in town.
It sure beats this time yesterday when the smoke was so thick it was like midnight in the early arfternoon, and 70 knot gale was blowing the fire from hill to hill. On the other hand it's still really smokey, and the fires are still burning in Canberra's western suburbs (I live in the middle).

Smiley face goes to John this week for getting us Colonies 4 to Playtest!

Shucks...I'm honoured, Steve.....:o

How's it going out there, Case? I have some friends in Oz - in the Yarra valley. Are there any fires there?

Originally posted by Patient English


Shucks...I'm honoured, Steve.....:o

John I knew you always wanted one of these deep down inside. Enjoy, they dont come easily! SAS has been trying for months, he must be very jealous! :D

And yes Case we need a blow by blow on the great fire, please keep us informed and stay wet and safe!:)

If anyone is interested there are pictures of the fire near Cases house here:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74506&perpage=20&pagenumber=1

Its looks like the fire shifted before it got to close to Case. And I regret the loss of life but Im amazed it was only a few people. God must have been looking out for the folks in OZ on this one!

Pictures are pretty dam amazing! And again glad you are safe!

Originally posted by Patient English
How's it going out there, Case?

It's good at the moment. The wind has dropped and the smoke has finally lifted revealing some really shocking damage to the hills and mountains around us. The nearby fire I was so worried about on Saturday seems to have been a lot less serious then it looked, so that's good news (as Alexander's Horse writes in his 'poly thread, if the wind hadn't droped from gale force strength it could have gotten very ugly though).

The city's now crawling with about a thousand fire fighters, who are pouncing on any flare ups. Yesterday from my driveway I watched a big Navy Seahawk helicopter repeatedly waterbomb nearby (500-1000 meters away) hills in order to put out smoking stumps ahead of a wind change, and later in the night I saw about a dozen fire trucks stomp out a minor grass fire.

In more good news, the internet is reliable again, so I should have my saves up in a few hours. :)

I have some friends in Oz - in the Yarra valley. Are there any fires there?

Not that I've heard of. There are some very nasty fires in the Snowy mountains which have blanketed Melbourne in smoke, but there's no imminent danger to populated areas in Victoria.

Originally posted by conmcb25
Smiley face goes to John this week for getting us Colonies 4 to Playtest! Thanks JOHN!

:eek: Where's my copy? :(

Originally posted by Darius
:eek: Where's my copy? :(

Darius Im not sure you're "special" enough.:D

Seriously, Did you ask John to be on the Playlist for Playtesting? If you didn't, thats why you dont have a copy. It is a ways from being finalized, a bunch of us are playing and giving John feedback.

If you ask John NICELY he may add you to the list.:D

I've played and posted my smokey smelling turns in games 1, 6 & 7. I tried to PM Henrik to inform him that it's now his turn in all three games, but his PM box is full!

Originally posted by conmcb25


Darius Im not sure you're "special" enough.:D

Seriously, Did you ask John to be on the Playlist for Playtesting? If you didn't, thats why you dont have a copy. It is a ways from being finalized, a bunch of us are playing and giving John feedback.

If you ask John NICELY he may add you to the list.:D

Well I just thought it was expected I'd be glad to playtest; I've helped with around 4 new scenarios lately. Anyway Sti mailed it to me within 30 seconds of my post so nah. :p

Originally posted by Darius
Well I just thought it was expected I'd be glad to playtest; I've helped with around 4 new scenarios lately. Anyway Sti mailed it to me within 30 seconds of my post so nah. :p

So what, you didn't get it from John so NAH::p

OK OK. I'm happy for you to have a look Darius, but everybody please keep the game under wraps until it is finalised....Thanks.

Wait am I on the list. If not I want to be.

John i hope it was okay. I fugured since Darius have playtested several games earlier he was more than qualified.

And his first comment was: "wow!" :D

I guess all you Tournament or ex-Tournament guys can have a look - your efforts in Bonaparte have given me much fun gaming....

So yes, Voltar, and no SAS, I don't mind.

However, if you can offer some constructive - or better, destructive criticism - please do so. And if you have any neat graphics or sounds to share, yours or ones in the public domain you know about, please tell me.

Ok well my main qualm in the scenario is 1/2 movement on roads. I really prefer 1/3. And I don't like how its 2 month turns. The game progresses very rapidly. And where is the logic of moving units so slowly. Think about it. Did it realy take a french infantry two months to march the equivalent over 4 squares over quality, major roads?

I'd also like to see more amphibious units. I don't like how only the french have amphibious capability. The british should have it, and so should everyone else. At the very least on the Grenadier units. Also cavalry are not very potent. It is extremely difficult for cavalry to dislodge infantry, even unfortified on regular terrain. Just try and defeat French infantry on grassland unfortified with dragoons. Gonna have some casualties...

I'd like to see a stronger showing from the ottomans is it at all possible to have them actually do something? Rather then surround their own cities and fortify. The stckable tile makes it hard. Dunno how this can be fixed, but thought I'd say my opinion.

Anyway I can't really think of anything else on the fly now. So more later. But still John an excellent scenario, you should be proud of the work you've done.

When are we starting a Colonies Four Tourney Thread. With four playable Civ's it may move faster than the Boney Tourney.:D

And another Tourney to practice "bumping " on! Yea!

:D

John, I'm slowly working my way through the scenario, and my first reaction was also 'wow' :) (my second reaction was 'I wonder if I can extend that map to St. Petersburg' and finally make some progress on my 7 Years War Scenario ;) )

Originally posted by voltar
Also cavalry are not very potent. It is extremely difficult for cavalry to dislodge infantry, even unfortified on regular terrain. Just try and defeat French infantry on grassland unfortified with dragoons. Gonna have some casualties...

Cavalry wasn't all that powerful in combat. Trained infantry with good morale were ususally able to defeat cavalry in most situations. The areas which cavalry excelled were scouting and finishing off forces on the brink of destruction.

Ok well my main qualm in the scenario is 1/2 movement on roads. I really prefer 1/3. And I don't like how its 2 month turns. The game progresses very rapidly. And where is the logic of moving units so slowly. Think about it. Did it realy take a french infantry two months to march the equivalent over 4 squares over quality, major roads?

I'd also like to see more amphibious units. I don't like how only the french have amphibious capability. The british should have it, and so should everyone else. At the very least on the Grenadier units. Also cavalry are not very potent. It is extremely difficult for cavalry to dislodge infantry, even unfortified on regular terrain. Just try and defeat French infantry on grassland unfortified with dragoons. Gonna have some casualties...

I'd like to see a stronger showing from the ottomans is it at all possible to have them actually do something? Rather then surround their own cities and fortify. The stckable tile makes it hard. Dunno how this can be fixed, but thought I'd say my opinion.

Anyway I can't really think of anything else on the fly now. So more later. But still John an excellent scenario, you should be proud of the work you've done.

OK Case and Voltar, I think you may be talking at cross purposes. Voltar's post looks to be about Bonaparte II, which is on-topic for this thread, but not the feedback I was looking for - which was for Colonies IV. Although Case's comment on the strength and role of cavalry in the gunpowder age is relevant to both.

Is that right? By all means post Bonaparte II feedback here - although I'm unlikely to change much except obvious "bugs" now. I perhaps will start a thread for Colonies IV soon - I just didn't want to before I had a good idea of when it might be finished. I field about 5 emails a day asking me when it will be out as it is....
:rolleyes:

John I say start a thread, it might be a lot easier than answering god only knows how many emails.

The rest of us can help you keep it up.

Just a thought, and if your opening post is explicit enough it might quell some of the emails. With Periodic Updates of course.

I am feeling kind of bad about mentioning it now. Hopefully the smiley face was worth it.:D

The good point would be we could get back on topic in this thread.......... :crazyeye:

ROFL! I hadn't realised we we're discussing Colonies 4. Oh well, those are still my standing comments for Bonaparte.

To answer some of your Bonaparte points, Voltar:

1) So did infantry move 3 times faster on the dreadful roads of the time than over open fields? I think not.

2) The two-month turns were to give some hope of finishing the scenario. With that number of units, a move can take an hour if you're the French, English or Russians, particularly if you're being careful, like in MP. All of Civ has this "two months to go 100 miles" problem. Show me a single scenario that gets this right.

3) There would be very few amphibious units at all if I didn't want to encourage a French invasion attempt. Big amphibous landings in the face of the enemy did not happen in 1803. 1944, OK.

4) If I had 8 civs to play with the eighth would have been the Turks. In sone Napoleonic Scenarios it is. However, on this map the Swedes make as much sense, and how could I face Henrik if I dropped them..? ;)

Originally posted by Case
(my second reaction was 'I wonder if I can extend that map to St. Petersburg' and finally make some progress on my 7 Years War Scenario ;) )

Soon I hope Case, I love the French and Indian War as we know it in the States. And I have played the heck out of Empire. Have you ever tried that one. I really enjoyed that scenario in SP.

Make the Ocean smaller and the ships can have less movement. You might be able to fit it in that way.......;)

Originally posted by voltar
ROFL! I hadn't realised we we're discussing Colonies 4. Oh well, those are still my standing comments for Bonaparte.

:lol::rotfl::lol:

OK, when I release 0.3 (at the weekend I guess) I will start a thread for development of the Colonies game. I will also load the file onto my web site to get around this scrambled zip problem some of you are having - and take the chance to give the site a much needed revamp!

I don't think the roads we're all that dreadful. Consider these roads. in Europe, they are quality roads, many paved. The ones connecting major cities at least. Im thinking that for Infantry to march through grass, with various trees, the slight hills and even walking through farms often is significantly harder then on a road.

I still think you should revert to monthyl turns. In singleplayer I found the amoutn of turns rather insufficent. But alas it is your Scenario which gives you the right to do as you please.

Maybe one day I will finish my scenario which has been in development for many ages, and will also bask in the power to freely decide how everything works and then impose it upon others. Of course if people are like me they modify the scenario to their hearts content. Every singleplayer scenario I play I change a bit more to my liking. The one scenario I hardly touched was Red Front & all I did there is change Red Army HP from 1 to 2 in summer times. It seems like a strong effect but it's that major, because all these units which may fall to the Red Army defenders are re-created...

Voltar, for SP, you are welcome to change the number of turns. I will send you the basegame save from which scenarios can be made, and a few simple instructions. Shuold take you no more than an hour. Tell me if you want me to.

I don't agree about the roads, though. :D

Walking though mildly hilly or broken terrain, you might average 2-3 miles per hour (including rest stops, etc). Along a good road, fit troops might manage 4-5 miles per hour. Add in 10 hours per day for cooking food and sleeping, and the difference is 35 miles vs 63. I reckon 1:2 ratio of roads to open terrain is OK.

Originally posted by Patient English
3) There would be very few amphibious units at all if I didn't want to encourage a French invasion attempt. Big amphibous landings in the face of the enemy did not happen in 1803. 1944, OK.

*cough* The British invasion of Egypt involved a sophisticated and large scale opposed amphibious landing ;) *cough*

As such, I agree that British infantry should have the amphibious flag.

I like the roads movement - while it may force units to move slower then they did historically, it does prevent blitzkrieg campaigns.

British Invasion of Egypt? What year? There appears to have been some sort of British defeat in Egypt in 1807, but I can't find out much about it. Is that what you are refering to?

I see the British army of that time as "sea-mobile", but not amphibious. This was true of the French as well, but their infantry's amphibious attack was included for reasons of play-balance, as I said. A minor raid by a few hundred men in boats was very different from landing whole divisions in the face of the enemy. For that, you needed a port.

Of course, landing on a stretch of desert over a day or so, and with all your supplies, then drawing up in battle to face the enemy later, would be possible. As would driving away the defenders with massive naval bombardment - but that's what Bomb Ketches are for....But I just can't imagine many thousands of men storming ashore through the surf with their flintlock muskets against an enemy drawn up in Divisional strength at the high tide mark. Not successfully, anyway..;)

Originally posted by conmcb25
When are we starting a Colonies Four Tourney Thread.
:suicide:
I'd be happy to play col4 pbem, but a tourney before this tourney has ended would be undoable. :cry:

Originally posted by Henrik

:suicide:
I'd be happy to play col4 pbem, but a tourney before this tourney has ended would be undoable. :cry:

Time and sleep is NO BARRIER!

:D

Originally posted by Patient English
[B]British Invasion of Egypt? What year? There appears to have been some sort of British defeat in Egypt in 1807, but I can't find out much about it. Is that what you are refering to?[b]

In March 1801 the British landed a force of 16,000 in Egypt at Aboukir Bay. The force spend five days off the coast but unable to land due to storms, with the result that the French were well dug in along the shoreline. However, despite heavy casualties the British assult wave was able to break through thanks to the support of gun boats operating in a way remakably similar to the invasions of WW2.

IMO the balance would be improved if either the British infantry have an ampbibious assult capabilitiy, or if the French infantry lose this capability.

I'd really like to see more amphibious units... But thats just me

Sounds like the British Navy (Bomb Ketches in my game) cleared the way. In any event, my inclination would be to take away the amphibious capability of the French Line units, and perhaps leave it with the Light (although both were trained much the same by 1803). The Brits might have a Marine unit, but they already have Highlanders for that.

Tomorrow is global bump day, I suggest you check your status in the games if you want that coveted "smiley face".:D

sorry guys... I'm going to say something about the tourney, this is the correct thread right?... have my games up today and tomorrow, real life gets in the way of my ambitions of global dominance at times. But I'm feeling MUCH better now.

And once again (drumroll) the Perfect Control Panel Jam! Its too bad I cant make money at Bumping Id be one rich dude!

Here is the status:

Boney 1-Henrik 4.5 days
Boney 2-conmcb25 5 hours
Boney 3-Case 13.5 days
Boney 4-Diatribe 9days
Boney 5-Diatribe 13.5 days
Boney 6-Diatribe 12 hours
Boney 7-Diatribe 2.5 day
Boney 8-Yop 2.5 days

Who gets the Smiley face? Not Sas (again) no reminder in number two.

I was going to give it to Case for Playing while the Capitol of Austrailia was burning but he missed one.

Ill give it to John for sending me a reminder this week.

Here you go John! :) :)

And Bill I know you have been busy but I'd like to finish the Tourney sometime this century. OK?:D

Steve, there must be something wrong with your mail. Every reminder i have sent seem to be lost. Is your mail posted in the beginning of this thread correct?

Originally posted by sas
Steve, there must be something wrong with your mail. Every reminder i have sent seem to be lost. Is your mail posted in the beginning of this thread correct?

Nope its fine, I got it! My fault, its a long story with the home email. So anyway for the first time in weeks the coveted smiley face goes to SAS for sending me a reminder.

Sorry SAS this was my mistake and I know how much you have been wanting the smiley face!

:) :D ;) :cool: :crazyeye: :king: :goodjob: :lol:

Gosh....I'm....I'm all choked up. I would like to thank my Mother, my Director (Sue) and my Producer (SKI)......;)

That's assuming my Smiley hasn't gone to SAS now....Grrrr. :)

Originally posted by Patient English
Gosh....I'm....I'm all choked up. I would like to thank my Mother, my Director (Sue) and my Producer (SKI)......;)

That's assuming my Smiley hasn't gone to SAS now....Grrrr. :)

John I want to assure you that being the Bump King I can give out multiple smileys. So your smileys stay! And so do Sas's!:D :cool: :) :lol: :king: :goodjob:

Cool. Now I'm happy, and promise to play nice (except in Game #2, SKI, of course..:))

I have a new email adress and John has just changed it in the first post, Thanks John:D

No worries.....

Bill are you going to REJOIN the Tourney anytime soon? We need you man!:D

still no movement anywhere

*weeps*

OK Im a little concerned about Bill (Diatribe).

His computer has been on its last leg for a while. He lost his CD drive in November, and his computer is OLD. And he may not be the fastest player but he usually posts when he has a problem like last friday. So Im thinking he maybe having computer problems. Therefore he cant even get to the websites to let us know what is going on.

And my guess is no one who is umpiring has his passwords. (Except for me of course in Boney 6.)

So I say we give him till sunday to at least post here and then umpires start playing thru with Password strips again.

This is again a good case to get all your umpires your passwords.

Thoughts? :confused:

Sounds like a good idea Steve. Diatribe have been active here, and his dissapearance may be because of his comp. I support that the umpires play if he doesnt show up by sunday.

Agreed.

I'm off now, I'll see you guys in a month :) lot of movement!]

If anything major comes up I should be contactable at my normal email adress, but don't count on a quick responce ;)

Have fun!

I think unpires ought to play through for Bill now, where we can. Obviously, with Case away too, that won't always be possible. Apart from Henrik, who can strip passwords?

Our knight in shinning armour, Darius.:D

I have the password for boney 6, I will play in the next few days and do an early global bump this week. Im behind at boney 2 as well.

I'll need all the umpires to post whether or not they have the passwords before I start stripping them.

Originally posted by Darius
I'll need all the umpires to post whether or not they have the passwords before I start stripping them.

Thanks Darius!:D

Darius, I have done so in Game #1 (I need your help, please).

Thanks!

i dont have a password :(

Current Status.

Boney 1-Diatribe 6 days- John has a password strip and will play
Boney 2-Darius 4 hours
Boney 3-Diatribe 9 days- Yop needs to umpire thru
Boney 4-Diatribe 3 weeks Henrik needs to umpire soon!
Boney 5-Diatribe 3 weeks Darius please umpire soon!
Boney 6-Patient 1 hour
Boney 7-Diatribe 9 days-SAS needs to umpire.
Boney 8- Yop- 9 days late!

We are probally going to have to advertise for another player. Diatribe has been missing since friday the 24th of January. If anyone has any ideas let me know. If we dont hear from him by saturday Im going to advertise!

Both Henrik and Darius are adept at password stripping.

Get your passwords to your umpire. (Resend them if you have to...........):D

Oh and I almost forgot! In celebration of Darius's triumphant return to the Tourney I have once again produced the perfect control panel Jam.

Smiley goes to Darius this week for subbing for Case and putting up with my bumping. :) :D :cool: ;) :p

Originally posted by conmcb25
Oh and I almost forgot! In celebration of Darius's triumphant return to the Tourney I have once again produced the perfect control panel Jam.

Hey jackass, I haven't subscribed to a single one of them yet. :p

Originally posted by Darius
Hey jackass, I haven't subscribed to a single one of them yet. :p

So whats your point? Global bump goes out once a week. And I gave you a smiley face for subbing. You dont really expect me NOT to try and irritate you, do you. The shock would be too great.:lol:

No one is pushing anything. The big thing we have to do right now is umpire thru Bills games. And if you can help with password stripping we would all appreciate it. And I meant what I said, when I said I appreciate you subbing. I wish we could talk you into stayting permanantly. :D

Advertise away, Steve. I also have a few contacts if you have no luck....

Originally posted by conmcb25
And if you can help with password stripping we would all appreciate it.

I already said I'm waiting for all the umpires to tell me whether or not they need the strips. So far I've only heard from sas and John.

Darius, still waiting for you to strip game #7 ;)

Darius, please also remove Diatribe's password in game #3. Thanx.

Originally posted by conmcb25
Smiley goes to Darius this week for subbing for Case and putting up with my bumping. :) :D :cool: ;) :p

Don't I get a smiley for arranging a sub well before I left? :(

Originally posted by Case
Don't I get a smiley for arranging a sub well before I left? :(

Well Ill have to think about that, a smiley is well deserved, HOWEVER you passed up free bear at Cyrion's house, so Ill just have to think about it.;)

Darius posted this at Apolyton last night about 2300 GMT.

"Sorry, I'm well aware it's my turn but my net access died and leave it to the University's technicians to sit on the report for a week without doing anything about it. Not bad for government work.

If I nag them and still no one comes by the end of Monday, I'll have to hire a private technician and be out $50. Either way I'll get all of my 10+ late turns finished within 12 hours of it getting fixed."

I think in the mean time we should get Henrik to do some password stripping........:crazyeye:

Darius is back, but no games have been ripped yet.. :(

...are we still waiting for him...? Maybe Henrik could help?

i can do it later tonight, since i somehow have aquired the knowledge to do it ;)

Well, it seems there are more people who know how to do it, then there are people who don't. ;)

I think i have removed the passwords that where needed. Please tell me if i missed one.

And btw, John we need to meet online in game #6. Do you want me to play on or should we try to set a date/time?

Let's try to meet. Anytime after 14:00 GMT on Friday is good for me.

Originally posted by Patient English
Let's try to meet. Anytime after 14:00 GMT on Friday is good for me.

I'm home from work at 16:30 GMT, so we could meet any time after that. If i eat dinner first we could meet at 17:30 GMT if it isnt too late for you?

Deal.

Ok here we go again the perfect Bump/ Reminder/ Control Panel Jam!

Current Status:

Boney 1- Yop 15 days!
Boney 2- Darius/ Case- 16 days
Boney 3- Yop to umpire for Diatribe- 2 days
Boney 4- Henrik to umpire for Diatribe-1 days
Boney 5- SAS - 1 hour
Boney 6- SAS - 15 days
Boney 7- Darius/ Case- 1 hour
Boney 8 - Voltar umpire for Diatribe - 2 days.

Im leaving for London in about two weeks for work. I dont think I will be able to play and Ill be gone a month! SAS can you do the global Bump for the next 6 weeks or so?

Also Im going to look thru all my games and ask one of you to sub. Its getting to hard to find knowledgeable people to play and I would prefer someone whom Im allied with to play my games. Is that OK with everyone I hope?

Ill be back in the States on 5 April and should be able to resume play shortly there after. I leave on Saturday the 8th of March so I probally wont play after thursday March 6th.

John, i'm really sorry i couldnt meet as agreed. I'm not at home, and where unable to tell you before now.

If you're still is willing to meet me we could try tomorrow or the day after. :(

No worries - I couldn't make it either! Stuck on a bloody train.....

Tomorrow (Saturday) is fine. Midday?

Originally posted by Patient English
No worries - I couldn't make it either! Stuck on a bloody train.....

Tomorrow (Saturday) is fine. Midday?

Why not try Saturday? I will keep ICQ on throughout the day, and leave me a message when you can play. Othervice i think aprox 16:30-17:30 GMT should work :)

That time (16:30-17:30) looks good. I have just emailed you to say the same thing. (I tried ICQ at 12:00 but you were unavailable (but online, I think).

As General MacArthur would say, I have returned. I'm going to be too busy to play my turns anytime in the next couple of days, but service should be back to normal after that.

BTW, It goes without saying that I'd like to thank Darius for filling in for me. :) I owe you big.

No prob, it was only three turns I think, and short ones at that. ;)

Guys, we have a problem in Game #8. It conserns what happens with land units that looses it's transport.

In my opinion, the Land units should be disbanded since they no longer have any ship to transport them. Thats how it is in real life, and in the "unstackable" games as well.

Just very unrealistic to let the stay alive imo.

See my reply in that thread, everyone.

and my reply as well.

BTW, is it my turn in any games?

We need Steve back! I'll do a quick check tonight and post a bump in this thread.

Originally posted by Patient English
We need Steve back! I'll do a quick check tonight and post a bump in this thread.

Elect a new Bump King during my exile to London. I vote for SAS.

Darius is going to sub for me. Im sending him the excell sheet now.

Im done playing Im out of time. Sorry I didn't get a few turns played this week. It has gotten quite hectic. Darius can catch up for me.:) :o :o :o

Originally posted by conmcb25


Elect a new Bump King during my exile to London. I vote for SAS.

Darius is going to sub for me. Im sending him the excell sheet now.

Im done playing Im out of time. Sorry I didn't get a few turns played this week. It has gotten quite hectic. Darius can catch up for me.:) :o :o :o

I will do a global bump today. And John, can you please edit the games so that the persons playing the game is listed, and not someone who quit months ago? please?

Global bump everyone!

#1 Yop 32 Days!!!
#2 Steve Darius 10 days!!
#3 Steve/Darius 11 days!!
#4 Henrik to umpire Diatribe!! 18 days!
#5 Henrik 3 days
#6 Case 4 days
#7 Henrik 15 days!!
#8 Steve/Darius 5 days

OK, SAS ;) Thanks for doing the global bump, BTW.

Do we have a sub for Diatribe, yet...?

What's happened to Diatribe? Is he just on holiday, or has he been eaten by zombies?

He just disappeared. So far we have no sub and umpires have been playing. SAS good job on the global bump good to see I havent missed any games.

Also is Steve coming back or is he out for good?

Originally posted by voltar
He just disappeared.

Whoa, that sucks :(

BTW, thanks for the bump SAS: I played what I thought was my turn last night, but it turned out that I'd loaded the wrong file and had replayed my last turn :o

Steve is coming back in around 4 weeks. We have not found a deputy for him or for Diatribe yet.....any suggestions?