I've just realised we need an eighth game, if we are all to play each civ! (Now that we have the idea of umpires.) Whoops :o

So for the last game:

Umpire Voltar
British Sas
Prussians Steve
Independents
Austrians Case
Russians Henrik
French Darius
Spanish Patient
Swedish FiGu

Sas, you to start this one....

The export of British goods sent to all the corners of Europe. The British navy had numerous encounters with the French navy.

*French ship spotted and sunk just off the coast near exceter
*French ship spotted and sunk west of Brest.
*French ship spotted and sunk wst of Sassari

Britian will do its utmost to hinder French expansion in europe.

Reform Initiated
Realising that the efficient state and military of Frederick the Great has ossified into an inefficient and tradition-bound administration, the Prussian King has begun a wide range of reforms designed to make Prussia a great European state once more. As part of these reforms the monarchy has declared Prussia open to all free trade. Trade goods are being sent out to all the capitols of Europe, and Prussia likewise will eagerly welcome the arrival of any foreign merchants.

The army is also undergoing a major overhaul to promote modern tactics and advancement based on merit. After an altercation with the local ruler of Rostock, Prussia has declared war on the tiny province, giving the new army a chance to test itself on the field.

However, the Prussian King has made it clear that he wants no part in the struggle developing between Britain and France, although he is open to offers of an alliance from any of the European states.

Austrian troops have occupied Constana on the Black Sea coast.

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Victory points + 1

and here's the file :o

Tzar Henrikov the first is as of yet remaining neutral in the Franco-Brittish conflict in the west.

The russian empire is not interested in getting involved into the petty brawls of the French and English.

Meanwhile all borders towards european countries are reinforced and a declaration of war has been made towards the Ottoman Empire, skirmishes between Imperial Russian troops and Ottoman soldiers are reported north of the, by the austrian Empire recently liberated, city Constanca.

1. The provinces between the Minho and the Duero, with the city of Oporto, shall be given in full ownership and sovereignty to His Majesty the King of Etruria, under the title of King of Northern Lusitania.

2. The Province of Alemte and the Kingdom of Algarve shall be given in full ownership and sovereignty to the Prince of the Peace, to be enjoyed under the title of Prince of Algarve.

3. The Provinces of Beira, Tras-os-Montes, and Portuguese Estremadura, shall remain in trust until the general peace, to be disposed of then according to circumstances, and according to what shall be agreed upon between the 2 High Contracting Parties.

:king:

As French forces pour over the Spanish border, King Juan demands an explanation from his putative ally, General Napoleon...

In case a joint attack is desired by the French, Spanish forces have moved up to the Portuguese border.

However, the Spanish border fortress garrisons are standing to their guns in case the French movement is more sinister.....

Russian forces have appeared outside the walls of the fortress of Helsinfogrs. Russian naval forces blockaded the gulf of Finland. Russian ships have left port.

It is my professinal opinion that Russia has intentions to attack Sweden.

Alcibiaties better watch out.

First of all, France did not mention the naval engagement west of Corsica, where two British ships where sunk. I'm sure you just forgot Waku. But please remember to post everything!

*Britain is alarmed at the massing of Spanish forces along the Portuguese/Spanish border. We demand that they pull back immediately or face the consequences.

*A French cargo vessel sunk just off the Spanish coast.

*Britain urges Russia not to attack Sweden before a diplomatic solution can be worked out.

-Pitt-

Yes, Waku, your post was VERY colourful, but I don't think it was very informative. ;)

As the Spanish, I would like to know what you are up to. I'm sure we would all benefit from a good factual report, because in a PBEM, we can't see what goes on during another's turn.

Spain is ready to declare war on the British, but wants to find out the French intentions first. :confused:

Please reply to my diplomatic note....

Rostock Surrenders
As Rostock fell so too did many of the top officials in the Prussian military, as their blundering and outmoded tactics led to the unreasonable loss of two regiments of kuraisiers and around four batteries of artillery, seige and foot; proof that the King and his ministers mean to back their promises of reform with action. On the bright side however, the other fortmations that took place in the assualt of Rostock's fortress are now seasoned veterans, making such losses unlikely in the future.

Celebrations across Prussia
Despite the debacle at Rostock however, the King has evidently won the hearts of his people with his promises of far-reaching reform. Everywhere across the kingdom this month the people were in the streets chanting praise of the King and holding pictures of their ruler up to the sky. Not a few have voiced the radical hope that he may follow up this quick annexation with more campaigns to bring further German states under the Prussian banner; a song that goes 'Deutschland uber alles' has begun to catch on...

Austrian Army Continues Advance

This month, the Austrian Army of the Adriatic has taken Ravenna, the Army of the Balkans has taken Tirane and the Army of the Danube has taken Varna. As well as crippling the the Ottoman Army, these victories have won Austria 4 victory points.

Russians' Asked to Withdraw

The Austrian Government requests that Russia withdraw it's troops from the mouths of the Danube region. As the Ottoman threat to the Southern Russian border has been removed these troops are no longer required.

Russia will garrison her borders against any neighbor, be they Ottoman, Swedish or Prussian, however she will not attack.

A policy of strict neutrality has been declared in St. Petersburg.

The only nation that russia is currently at war with is the Ottoman Empire and that war is expected to end soon with the fall of the Ottoman capital...

French capture Zurich and kindly request the Austro-Hungarian Emperor to withdraw his lovely tin soldiers from the nearby Alps ;)

Owing to the obstinate English failing to reply to our last ultimatum (my mail to you of 24/07/02, SAS), our glorious King Juan Carlos has ordered his troops across the Portuguese border on the first of the month...

Lagos, Figueira and Oporto have been brought under bombardment: Three Portuguese musketeer regiments and one battalion of Cacadores (Rifles) have been dispersed, although one of our own infantry regiments was bloodily repulsed when they attempted to storm the walls of Oporto. More cannon are being brought up....

Figueira has been taken, as has Lagos.

English merchants on their way to Madrid have been interned, and their goods seized.

Not wishing to be left out, our navy has also joined the fray. A British Brig outside Cadiz has been sunk, and an East Indiaman captured off Malaga. Our main fleet has also sunk a carelessly shadowing frigate that got too close.

An attack on Ceuta by the Bey of Tangiers was easily repulsed as well.

+2 VPs

Updated save - ready for you now, Chris!

(welcome back, btw) ;)

Sweden is open to all offers of peace and trade.

Britain is furious at the Spanish attack on Portugal. In response, the Royal Navy is currently being equipped for an attack against Spain.

*Spanish cargo vessel sunk near Corunna

*British counter attack near Lisbon and Oporto

*One French Brig sunk near Denmark

*French cargo vessel sunk in the atlantic

i have allso stopped using Lazyciv and renamed the cities, since it's now officially banned. I suggest everyone does the same.

Thanks, SAS.

(Didn't remember I had a merchantman near Corunna - oh well...)

Any success with you counterattacks?

Originally posted by sas
*British counter attack near Lisbon and Oporto

The result was the same in both cities if i remember right. I killed one infantry and one artillery outside each city.

*Programme of modernization and reform continues

*Troop movements within Prussian kingdom following the fall of Rostock

*The Tsar kindly asked to withdraw his units from the vicinities of Konigsberg and Warsaw. Prussia will not tolerate a foreign policy based on threat and intimidation.

Munich Falls

Following a bombardment from a howitzer battery, Austrian troops have stormed the minor German city of Munich. Casualties were heavy, especially amoungst the artillerymen.

Russians Asked to Withdraw

The Austrian government formally requests that the Russian government withdraw its troops from near the Austrian city of Constanta.

Russia has merely been fortifying her borders, those soldiers stay.

Bumping Waku!!

Waku

You haven't even played in this one! Same message as in tourney # 4. :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:

Please come back!

French capture Mainz and Livorno

muskets traders from Le Mans arrive in Portsmouth

The British Brigade encamped outside Gibraltar has been shelled to pieces, although a desperate charge by one battalion overran one of our Gun Batteries.

A patrolling British Frigate off Corunna has also been sunk after a sortie by our Biscay Squadron. All of our ships returned home safely, although a little battered.

Outside Oporto, our troops are busy digging trenches and preparing for a long and miserable seige over the winter. Similar activities are taking place in the hills above Lisbon.

Another one, Im beginning to feel like a broken record.........

Volyar did you get a password from AoA? If not then it is SAS,s move.

Lets move along

Thanks

:spank: :spank:

I got nothing from AoA.

Check the home page guys. The password is "chris", but I want to give Darius a chance to play.....

Ok, here's my first turn! Nothing happened, not even any combat against Norway. Just a little diplomacy behind the scenes to be completed.

Also, I share my predecessor's concern about the Russian troops massing near Helsingfors. I understand that they are in your territory, but having our troops in such proximity is inherently dangerous. Could we possibly come to an agreement that the square 88,38 is to be empty of troops from both our sides? You should feel perfectly safe having your border defenses in Vyborg.

SAS bump

sorry, will play my round later today. Promise :)

*British forces stationed in the fort outside Lison attacked the Spanish army camped outside the fort. The result was a clear victory for the Brits. Only a lack of enough troops prevented the British from destroying the Spaish completely.

*British forces captured Stavanger. And we expect to capture Bergen very soon. Britain will not take any further cities in Norway, since we do not want to offend our Swedish friends.

Originally posted by sas
sorry, will play my round later today. Promise :)

No problem buddy, every few days Im going thru and bumping because quite frankly I am having a hard time keeping track of what my turn is!:D

BUMP BUMP!:spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:

Oh s**t, its my turn, by tommorrow at the latest

To the Austrian King I have tasty fruits headed towards Prague.

To the Swedish King the ships North of Copehagen are on a trade mission, Warships are only protection from the Independants in Denmark.

To the Russian Tsar, I will assume your units will move away from Konigsberg per our Diplomatic discussions.

Completed quite a bit of Diplomacy across almost all of the great capitols of Europe.:D

Case has exams, this may take a few days.:)

Tuesday is almost here in Austrailia!:cool: :cool:

Case old buddy please stop drinking beer for a few minutes and come out and play! Better yet drink WHILE you are playing!

BUMP BUMP BUMP

All is quiet in Austria

Henrik

I think you missed this one, come out and Play

BUMP BUMP BUMP

:wallbash: Delays :spank:

:lol:

Not much happening in Russia.

Voltar

You need to umpire thru for Waku on this one!
Thanks

Sorry for the delay. I completly forgot I needed to play this round.

Oporto has been bombarded, and 1 Ship of the Line and 1 Frigate were sunk at their moorings. General Cuesta ordered an assault on the town. An extremely determined Portuguese Brigade, supported with Artillery, took a heavy toll of our men. Two of our Dragoon Regiments, two Musketeer Brigades and a Regiment of King Juan's own Guard all fell in the bloody fighting. Eventually the brave Portuguese succumbed to weight of numbers, though, and the Spanish flag proudly waves over Oporto again!

Our army in the east is now almost fully redeployed, and how long can it be before all Portugal is once again reunited under the Iberian Crown? The Portuguese will rue the day they provoked this war!

It's soon my turn, can someone crack/remove the passwords?

Guard regiments begin the conquest of Denmark; Alborg captured.

did you remove the password Darius?

EDIT: checked and the password is still there. Can Darius or Henrik remove the password. Hmm... perhaps i should learn some Hex Editing and do this myself :rolleyes: Less work for you guys.

Sorry, I probably should have done it since it was my turn, eh? :o

thanks, I will play my round tonight :)

Sunk a damaged French Two decker near Brest. Please report when you attack and sink ships Voltar!! ;)


Other than that, the month was used preparing for the comming actions against Spain.

My apologies, normally I do.

BUMP..........ME!

SAS no email?

You know I wont be able to give you a smiley face this week again dont you!

3 days on the turn for me.:spank:

Thorn Dye to Prague.

Continued Progress towards Progress.

Henrik I sent you am email please respond.

The Austrian Army has added the Island of Cofu to the mighty Austrian empire.

Henrik Bump 3.5 days:spank:

The Russian army is preparing for a great journey... ;)

Yop 73- 7 days

:spank:

Oops, sorry. Missed this one. :(

Sorry guys, but I'm going to do some diplomacy first.
Btw. I noticed that Prussia and I are at war. Is this real, or is it just that the AI messed up and declared war?

Originally posted by Yop73
Sorry guys, but I'm going to do some diplomacy first.
Btw. I noticed that Prussia and I are at war. Is this real, or is it just that the AI messed up and declared war?

The AI, we talked about this today Yop:D

The cities of Cologne and Oldenburg were captured by our republican army.

Some minor skirmishes between French and English ships result in a sunken two-decker west of Brest, the sinking of 2 merchantmen southwest of Cork (the trader was also destroyed)*, and the heavy damaging of a frigate in the middle of the Northsea.

Small raids on Plymouth, Exeter and Portsmouth manage to kill 2 fortified two-deckers, 1 east-indiaman and a funny looking regiment in Exeter. (what kind of units are those????,)

That's all for this turn. :)





*Spain: when I discovered the stack, I also saw a stack to the Northeast of the other one, with a two-decker and some other units. I believe it's heading for Spain, so keep your eyes open. :) It's location is (19,61)1
**Spain: a damaged English frigate can be found on (17,79)1

"a funny looking regiment in Exeter. (what kind of units are those????,)"

Not in the Civilopedia?

Thanks for the tips, M. l'Empereur! I expect an invasion fleet is indeed on the way, but:

1) Having just done it myself in Game #2, I know the best ways to stop it, and

2) This will just leave the islanders open for your invasion across the channel!

Spain is prepared to take on her share of the burden in defeating the shopkeepers...;) However, I will not take out the frigate as it would just lead to a lost warship (there is a big stack just behind it, perhaps with a landing force). My Northern squadron is best used for defending my harbours. Unless they have brought LOTS of artillery, they will find my ports tough nuts to crack...

A Rapid Reaction Force with many Horse Artillery batteries (many on loan from our dear ally, France) are waiting in the Galician hills to push any invader back into the sea....

Spain's best contribution to the common struggle would be to slaughter the British on the beaches, I think.

Sweden liberates Christiania(2)

Seeks goodwill and trade amongst her counterparts.

The Royal Navy arrived with the first part of the task force set aside for the liberation of Portugal this month. More than 15 ships took part in the largest amphibious assault ever seen today.

*Line infantry backed with Cavalry landed outside Corunna and proceeded to attack the city immediately. After a number of attacks the city fell to the British forces. The main part of the task force could then sail directly into the city and unload it's cargo.
The fresh forces disembarking in Corunne immediately moved south and attacked Oporto. This strategy was a huge sucess, and the city fell after a short battle.

Summary: Corunna and Oporto captured

*Forces stationed in the fortress outside Lisbon attacked the Spanish occupation forces in Figureira, and drove them out of the city. The city is now under British controll again.

*In the atlantic, a small force captured Reykjavik.

*In the British channel, All French vessels where sunk without mercy.

*French Foot Artillery and Dragoon killed near Oldenburg.


If Spain wishes to talk peace, they are welcom to Lisbon for talks.

BUMP for Conmcb25 :spank: (2 days)

Again no smiley face for SAS this week.:p

Another Quiet Month in the Prussian Kingdom.

Originally posted by conmcb25
Again no smiley face for SAS this week.:p


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I did mail you. I used the "mail function" that is in the forum. Since my regualr mail didnt work at the time. I pressed the mail button and told you that it was your turn in game xxxx

Hmmm a likely story, I did not recieve and email, I will double check again but I looked at my home email last night, Hmmmmmm.

You really want the Smiley face dont you?:D

Sofia Taken!

The barbarian fortress city of Sofia has finally fallen to the Austrian Army. While the city's defenders had defeated earlier Austrian assults, they had no answer for the massive, three pronged bombardment which was unleashed upon them. While Austrlian casualties were high, the rewards were great.

In other news, the Italian city of Pescara has also been captured.

Henrik? I guess we wait on this one till the weekend.......:cry:

Henrik-6days:spank:

Massive troop movements took place during this turn :)

Yop 2.5 days!:spank:

Yop 9.5 DAYS!


:wallbash: :spank: [punch] :cry: :mad: :mad:

Massive raid on England
This month, a lot of French troops left the continent to attack England. The city of Dover, with it's gigantic fortress and the foot guard inside and a lot of other troops, was emptied. No troops were however sent in, since an occupation would result in a loss of lives.

Sardinia occupied
The cities of Sassari and Cagliari were captured by French troops with no casualties.

Austria asked to move it's traders
Case, you're blocking the road to Ulm with your traders. Will you please move them and not move any trader on square (56,76) for about 2 turns?

Sorry for playing this so slow. It'll never happen again. :)

As Oporto was only lightly held by the invading British, a flying column of our Dragoons reoccupied the town. It is not expected to be held by these men for very long, but a sizeable counter-attacking force is assembling in Old Castile that will be more than capable of taking - and holding - the landing places seized by the British.

In fact, the further the British move inland, away from their naval support, the more vulnerable they will become.

Password removed!

Voltar needs to umpire for Diatribe-2days

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*Trondhiem captured

*Trade established with London and two with Berlin

Swedish generals are alarmed by the concentration of Russian forces outside of Fort Helsinborg. We take these troops as a threat rather then defensive measure as they are encamped upon our territory at our very walls. We request immediate Russian withdrawl.
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Sorry for the delay didn't check this thread.

Britain would like to maintain good relations and exchange of commerce between Sweden and UK. But Britain cannot tollerate that Swedish cargo vessels block the exit ot the Thames. This seriously hinders our abillity to defend our Island against the French attacks. Swedish cargo is still welcome to England, but you must land your goods north of London.

The next time ANY nation block our vital harbors in a simmlar way, we will have no choice than to sink the vessel. This is a situation we would like to avoid at all cost, so please do as we request :)

In Spain:

-Oporto liberated and Salamanca captured.

-Spanish dragoons outside Lagos killed by British forces.
-Spanish brig outside Figueira sunk.

In the British channel:

-Transport near Dover sunk, please disband the units ;)
-Attack on Calais, killing defending French infantry.

Let him sink the units, Yop! Or you recover the swimmers next move.....;)

Let him sink the units, Yop! Or you recover the swimmers next move.....;)

I'll just recover them. :D
And then attack England with them next turn. :evil:

Originally posted by Patient English
Let him sink the units, Yop! Or you recover the swimmers next move.....;)

Is that allowed???? :eek:

Why not?

Originally posted by Yop73
Why not?

Well, how about plain logic?

Troops + ship = alive and well
Troops - ship = pretty dead in my opinion ;)

What about this:

Troops - ship, but + rescue boats is alive and well

Originally posted by Yop73
What about this:

Troops - ship, but + rescue boats is alive and well

rescue boats?? :lol: :lol: What would they to, row between the Royal Navy ships and pick up the magically alive troops? No no no....

Seriously though. Had i known this was allowed, i would have sunk the units in no time. But i think since sea squares is stackable the land units should be deleted once the transporting ship us sunk. That's the way it is without stackable squares.

Just plain logic imo.

If you want, I'll disband them this one time, but only this one time. Is that OK for you?

Originally posted by Yop73
If you want, I'll disband them this one time, but only this one time. Is that OK for you?

Actually, no. I think we need to put this problem in the tournament thread. This will possibly affect other games as well.

I agree with sas. It's ridiculous. An infantry at sea is a surprisingly formidable opponent for the navy. Even if they all magically survive on rescue boats how potent are they against a Two-Decker bombarding them from long range. If transport sunk the units should be deleted.

Originally posted by voltar
I agree with sas. It's ridiculous. An infantry at sea is a surprisingly formidable opponent for the navy. Even if they all magically survive on rescue boats how potent are they against a Two-Decker bombarding them from long range. If transport sunk the units should be deleted.


Ditto!:D

Well, this was NOT agreed in the tournament rules. It is a known feature of SP Bonaparte II that this issue is present.

You can campaign for a change, but it can only be implemented if:

EVERYBODY agrees, and NO existing units are "at sea" in this way. Anything else is unfair. Case, for example, has had to expend effort to sink my troops at sea in Game #6.

As John mentioned, in the past I've chosen to expend a lot of time (and damge to ships!) on killing off troops in the water.

I'm in two minds on this issue. One one hand, I agree that it's both unrealistic and a pain in the arse to have troops from sunken ships survive intanct. At best, these troops would have lost all their weapons in the sinking, and shouldn't be combat units.

However, on the other hand, it's not too unrealistic. Naval warfare was an uncertain business in the age of sail, and even the most co-ordinated attacks on convoys rarely resulted in the convoys complete destruction. In addition, in the game troops stuck in an isolated ocean square are worse then useless to their owner: they cost resourses to maintain while not contributing anything to the nation, and require an often risky rescue mission to ever return to valuable service.

On balance, I'm all for leaving things as they are with one change; units whose ship is sunk adjacent to a coastline should not be able to make a landing on that coast untill they are picked up by another ship. IMO this will prevent particularly unrealistic outcomes while preserving the scenarios design.

I suppose this settles the issue. I will replay my round and kill the units, since that is what i have to do to remove the enemy troops.

I still think allowing land units stuck at sea without any kind of ship to survuve is against my sense of what is realistic.

But this is not real life, its a game. And since Case and John supports this type of gameplay, i will adjust my playingstyle accordingly :)

And about the Tournament rules. I think it would be assumed by most of us that disbanding the units was the normal way to do thing, not the other way around. Then again that may just be me...

Originally posted by Case
As John mentioned, in the past I've chosen to expend a lot of time (and damge to ships!) on killing off troops in the water.

I'm in two minds on this issue. One one hand, I agree that it's both unrealistic and a pain in the arse to have troops from sunken ships survive intanct. At best, these troops would have lost all their weapons in the sinking, and shouldn't be combat units.

However, on the other hand, it's not too unrealistic. Naval warfare was an uncertain business in the age of sail, and even the most co-ordinated attacks on convoys rarely resulted in the convoys complete destruction. In addition, in the game troops stuck in an isolated ocean square are worse then useless to their owner: they cost resourses to maintain while not contributing anything to the nation, and require an often risky rescue mission to ever return to valuable service.

On balance, I'm all for leaving things as they are with one change; units whose ship is sunk adjacent to a coastline should not be able to make a landing on that coast untill they are picked up by another ship. IMO this will prevent particularly unrealistic outcomes while preserving the scenarios design.

No SAS, don't replay the turn. That will lead to other results in battles etc.
I'll just disband them this one time. ;)

Originally posted by Yop73
No SAS, don't replay the turn. That will lead to other results in battles etc.
I'll just disband them this one time. ;)

Allright, your troopser can count themselves lucky they didnt have to become shooting practice for the Royal Navy :D

Thanks guys. I can agree that swimming troops may not land and/or carry out any attack, until they have been rescued by a transport....

*Bump Steve/Darius*

Building up in Prussia.

I dont know I think the units should be disbanded. But I will go along with the majority.

Bump Case, 16 days!

After a brief fight Austrian forces have entered the Italian city of Foggia.

Russian troops will not be withdrawn from the Russian soil next to Viborg.
You get to garrison the land just next to Helsingfors, why shouldn't we be allowed to do the same for Viborg?
Sweden does not get to tell Russia what to do with her own forces in her own territory, these troops stay, if you wish to move them, feel free to try to do so yourself, by force!


As a result of Sweden's baseless threats, the garrisoned units in Finland has been strengthened, as has St. Petersburg and Reval's garrisons.

Russia does not wish for war with Sweden, but we will not be cought of guard in the event of an invassion (especially not as our capital lies so close to the border...).

Yop you are up!

I know. ;)

*Dover emptied once again by French troops, killing 4 British line infantery.
*4 brigs and 2 bomb ketches that attacked Calais last turn were destroyed by the French Navy.
*Hit and run attacks inside Britain manage to kill 1 trader and 1 engineer north-east of London.
*French scouts inside Britain are not seen by any British troops and manage to pass the entire British isles and then capture Liverpool. Though we expect to lose the city next turn, serious damage has been done to the infrastructure and hopefully some troops were disbanded thanks to the capture.
*French troops on the sea south-west of Dover were disbanded.

Originally posted by Yop73
[B*French scouts inside Britain are not seen by any British troops and manage to pass the entire British isles and then capture Liverpool. Though we expect to lose the city next turn, serious damage has been done to the infrastructure and hopefully some troops were disbanded thanks to the capture.
. [/B]



:cry: :cry: :cry:

I'll play tomorrow - I have guests tonight and we're all a bit smashed...;)

No major news from Spain, except the siege of Gibraltar is now underway, and the army of the interior has been concentrated to defend Madrid.

Nada

SAS is up:D

War Patriotism is on an all time high in Birmingham :)

-Liverpool liberated by the British Rear Guard. The full extent of the French crimes is not yet clear, but thousands of civilians is killed. And the damage to the industry was great as well. Aid from all over the country is being rapidly sent to help the homless and starving. Measures have been taken to prevent this ever happening again.

-Attack on Le Havre, destroying a couple of Defending Infantry. No port will be safe from British raids.

-French Dragoon south of Norwich surrounded and captured by British Dragoons.

-Attack on Spanish forces east of Ceuta, destroying 1 infantry and 1 engineer.

-Spanish brig sunk in the Biscaya.

-Spanish musketeers southeast of Corunna routed and captured by British Dragoons.

Bump Steve, 4 days

Working on building a trade network.

Naples Taken

After routing the laughable Army defending the city, Austrian forces have entered Naples.

The russian bear is sleeping...

French troops inflict damage upon Royal Navy
French troops once again raided Dover, only to find 4 two-deckers inside the city. All 4 ships were sunk and also the 2 brigs inside the city.
Then, French navy engaged the English navy who had positioned 2 two-deckers in the Thames estuary. French lost 2 two-deckers, but the English ships were sunk. One two-decker is however heavily damaged and still in the Thames estuary. We are uncertain about it's fate, but we don't expect the ship to return.

Help sent to Spain
While French officers were willing to give a lot of troops to Spain, general Alfonso Interrago refused to accept those troops. French and Spanish officials might want to meet online to conclude the deal.

Patient Turn- Three days!

Yep, back now. Too late tonight, but I will play tomorrow - when I should be working! ;)

Spain moved. Consolidation, but no attacks.

I cant play before i receive an reply from Steve and Case... hurry up guys ;)

Edit: Forgot Sweden is up first :o

Yep Im up and I replied to you and it sounds like Case is favorable as well.

Ganging up on poor France, eh? You better be quick...;)

Sweden is still wondering why Russian forces amass outside our territory. We have been ignored by Russia.

AGAIN we demand that Russia withdraws !

SAS-1 day, I believe Case and I replied to you, if you need further clarification then lets start a three way email or maybe a four way or possibly a 5 way.

(Getting nervous John????????:D )

Originally posted by conmcb25
SAS-1 day, I believe Case and I replied to you, if you need further clarification then lets start a three way email or maybe a four way or possibly a 5 way.

(Getting nervous John????????:D )


I have yet to receive any mails from Case :( Case are you out there??

Btw, if i dont hear from him by tomorrow i will play on

Nervous? Me?

Naah. In my little remote peninsular, you can't hurt me. But I think France should take notice, and Russia too. And I am allied to France.....

Originally posted by Patient English
Nervous? Me?

Naah. In my little remote peninsular, you can't hurt me. But I think France should take notice, and Russia too. And I am allied to France.....

Im glad you are so sure of yourself John. I was worried about that.........:D

Originally posted by voltar
Sweden is still wondering why Russian forces amass outside our territory. We have been ignored by Russia.

AGAIN we demand that Russia withdraws !

I replied to this several turns ago.
Go back and have a look.

Then decide if it's still worth fighting about.

Once again we urge merchant vessels to stay north of Oxford. If they hinder British actions against the French, we have no other option than to sink/remove it.

Continued success in Spain:

-Spanish forces positioned on the hills east of Salamanca was allmost completely anihilated. Only one Spanish foot artillery piece left. This is what is happening when elite British forces encounter fresh meat from Madrid. The road to Madrid is opening up.

-British Bomb Ketch cause havoc in Seville, killing the lone defending unit in the city.

-Spanish musketeer destroyed on the hills north of Gibraltar when British Line infantry initiated a suprice attack.


The battle for the channel contiunes:

-French Two Decker north of London sunk. If the French navy think they can match the Royal Navy, you are most welcome to try.

Last night, Napoleon was heard saying: The stupid English islanders will pay for their cruelties against the Spanish people.

Prussia is extremely disturbed by the continued aggression against Britian by the Spanish and French.

Cease and desist soon or else the rest of Europe will not wait around until there is no more England.

Dortmund Mutton to Lincoln.

Prussian Army on Manuevers...............

The Spanish people will have their revenge against the despoilers of their fair land! Even now, a large army is assembling in the hills above Salamanca.....

The Austrian Army has taken the town of Stara Zagora. Why? - because it was there ;)

A few major Russian troop manouvers took place...


Russia would also like to make it clear that if Sweden demands withdrawal of Russian troops from Russian soil again, we will respond with force, just as we said the first time Sweden tried made such preposterous demands.

We have the right to garrison our own territory, Sweden will not and cannot order us out of there.

Yop?

Sorry. John and I still need to perform the online trade ...

Originally posted by Yop73
Sorry. John and I still need to perform the online trade ...

OK, just a friendly reminder, John you guys going to do this soon?

Ready to do it now. Are you on for this evening Yop?

Sorry and I also can't do it this weekend.
Maybe next week?

Yop, I think you had better play on. I can hold the English for now I think. Gift me some gold and tech for now.....I need Flying Artillery I think, and any Industrial Tech like Mechanics you have.

"Our man are tired and seasick, commander", said Lieutenant Dubois. "They will see land soon enough", replied Commander De Vaillant, "we will land in Dover in a couple of houres."

A large fleet left France on the night of the 15th of October. On the 18th of October, the fleet started it's assault on Dover. Dover was only guarded by 1 regiment of Brigs and those were sunk in harbour.

The French commanders were astonished by the British arrogance. The British were apparently so confident the French wouldn't attack, that they left their Coastal Batteries unmanned. Now they are used by the French forces and the city also still has it's non-combattant shelters.

French forces first secured Dover and then went on to London. On the night of the 9th of November, French artillery batteries started pounding the British defences. Lot's of British artillery was destroyed in the assault. Then veteran French infantery regiments attacked the city. They killed a lot of cavalery inside the city and the only British infantery regiment.

But British elite royal horse guards kept on resisting the attackers, killing 2 veteran infantery regiments, before they were killed in action. We salute these brave fighters.

But with the horse guard killed, the city of London was open. French troops entered it and destroyed all remaining opposition inside the city.

Now, French troops man the coastal batteries and hide inside the non-combattant shelters.

However, after hearing the news about the French victory, emperor Yopoleon was happy but also sad. A lot of blood was spilled again and all of this thanks to the British imperialism. So he said to his ambassador in London to offer a very mild peace-treaty to the British PM Pitt. (see your PM's SAS)

In the meanwhile, French troops crossed the border with Spain and are now under Spanish command. Also caravans full of gold crossed the border with Spain. And some new prototypes were sent to the Spanish so that Spain can build more advanced weapons in the future.

And the offer for Spain.

John, can you wait playing your round untill me and Yop have finished talks. Shoud take a day or two.

OK.

This month, a French ambassador, located in London city, met up with his English counterpart. Both were given explicit orders to work out a peace treaty, and so they did.

*England cedes the entire Hannoverian territory to France. They will leave Brunswick in 2 months, Hannover in 4 months and Hamburg in 8 months.
*England gives Salamanca and La Coruna back to Spain
*England cedes Gibraltar to Spain
*England recognises Spanish ambitions in Northern Africa up to and including Tunis
*England recognises French interrest in Sicily/Italy

This treaty will ensure a permanent French-English and Spanish-English peace treaty after years of war ...
Leaders in both countries are very optimistic about their future ...

John, you can play on :D

Well as far as Prussia is concerned a separate Peace by Britian negates the treaty and the assistance Prussia was planning within the alliance.

All bets are now off as far as the Prussian King is concerned.

Originally posted by conmcb25
Well as far as Prussia is concerned a separate Peace by Britian negates the treaty and the assistance Prussia was planning within the alliance.

All bets are now off as far as the Prussian King is concerned.


That is certainly understandable.

Yep sorry but you know how us rats are when the ship starts sinking..............:(

Today, some days after working out the peaceplan with Britain, diplomat Grandduc was sent on a secret mission to Berlin.
He met with Prussian diplomats and it became clear that both wanted to do the same thing: A defensive alliance.
Soon, the Prusso-French alliance was signed.
A Spanish mission from Madrid was also present, but their answer is still awaited. We hope they will also see the benefits of this new alliance and offer a triple-alliance.

Spain is happy to ratify this Prussian alliance, and joins it enthusiatically. I'll play later tonight.

Well done, Yop! :D

I will play tomorrow now. Have to re-install civdip and the JVM on my new PC O/S. Could take a few hours......

CivDip installed and used. Thanks, Yop! :)

No action taken against Britain: we look forward to the speedy restitution of Salamanca, Corunna and Gibraltar. Shall we meet online during your turn SAS?

CivDip installed and used. Thanks, Yop! :)

No action taken against Britain: we look forward to the speedy restitution of Salamanca, Corunna and Gibraltar. Shall we meet online during your turn SAS?

Originally posted by Patient English
CivDip installed and used. Thanks, Yop! :)

No action taken against Britain: we look forward to the speedy restitution of Salamanca, Corunna and Gibraltar. Shall we meet online during your turn SAS?

Sure, that will be okay.

All quiet in Sweden.

Loading up my save, it seems like Yop forgot to press CTRL+N :(

:mad:

Here's the new one.
Sorry all.

And the new civdip file.

****, does this mean I have to do all that again?

Originally posted by Patient English
****, does this mean I have to do all that again?

Yes John CIVDIP is fun!:crazyeye: :crazyeye:

OK, gimme 5 minutes....

Tangiers taken from the Barbary Pirates.

French loans invested in modernising our industrial capacity....

voltar is up!

DEJA VU

srry

British forces in Spain and England stand down and wait for further orders. We hope a new era of peace for Britain, now that the terrible war is over.

*Brunswick have been emptied and is ready to be transfered to the French authorities.

*Gibraltar, Salamanca and Corunna is ready to be transfered to the Spanish.

offer to France

offer to Spain

Berlin to Lincoln trade produces a lot of Marks!

Building up the Empire and enjoying the new Alliance system.:D

Nothing to report, other then I'm sorry about this delay!

Russia joins the Franco-Prussian defencive alliance.

Rumours are spreading in Paris after the mysterious speech of emperor Yopoleon last week.

In the speech, he talk about an Austrian betrayal, about an upcomming attack by Austria on the French empire.

He talks about the canceling of the Austro-French "rock-solid, according to the words of the Austrian emperor" peace treaty by the Austrians themselves.

He talks about a stabbing in the back by the Austrians, a coward sneak-attack, to be conducted by the Austrians within 4 months.

He talks about revenge ...

So now rumours are spreading: Why are all those French armies marching east? What were the talks between France and her allies? What has really happened?

Well, let me tell you what happened.

First, emperor Yopoleon agreed on an unselfish division of Italy. Austria could have all of independant Italy, except Livorno and Rome.

This is the response by the Austrian emperor:

Emperor, I agree to your proposed division of Italy.

Then, when asked about the relations between our two countries, this was replied:

Yop73 said So does this mean we have an alliance, or just a solid peace-treaty? Case said A rock solid peace treaty.

The treaty was good, but after a few years, French hunters intercepted a carrier pigeon that was carrying a letter from the British PM to the Austrian emperor. The content of the letter was amazing. Here are some pieces:

Case has agreed to join the war

I propose Austria Strike thru Italy. Go on the defensive in Munich.

This is clearly showing that Austria was willing to attack France. And after asking about the stance of the Austrian emperor in this letter:

Dear Austrian emperor,
After reading in the thread about a PM going from SAS to you and with lots of things that pointed at an attack from Austria into France, I must remind you about our rock-solid peace treaty that we just made some turns ago.
I gave you entire Italy and wasn't hostile at all towards you.

He recieved this answer:

I am afraid that the European situation has changed somewhat since we made our agreement... ;)

Yours, etc

The Emperor of Austria

Well, Austrian emperor, it seems as if the situation in Europe has changed once again since our last conversation ... :evil:

PS I didn't declare war on Austria YET. Maybe you have something to say, Case?

Salamanca occupied, as per our recent agreement with Britain. A peace treaty may now be made between us, once Corunna is also so re-occupied.

Peace between Prussia and Spain is also encouraged.

Originally posted by Patient English
Peace between Prussia and Spain is also encouraged.

Are we at war according to the AI?

If I will try and rectify the next turn. I want peace as well:D

John, SAS sent you a civdip offer.
It included La Coruna, Salamanca and Gibraltar.

Oh yeah, Steve, don't forget to make peace with me too this turn. ;)

Originally posted by Yop73
Oh yeah, Steve, don't forget to make peace with me too this turn. ;)
OK!

Damn - I probably forgot. Let me replay.

OK, here's Spain's turn, with the three cities now Spainish. Thanks...;)

Some Danish city taken...

Tough times ahead

With the end of the war, the true state of the economy is becoming painfully apparent. Lack of food and economic growth is proving a full time job for the new government.

-Continued massive shipment of troops and hardware out of Hamburg. Over 10 Merchantman is currently used in the operation. Hannover still needs a little more time to prepare for the transition to French rule.

Prussia continues to build up and confer with her new allies after the break up of the coalition.

Urgh, I missed all this diplomacy. I'll have to confer with the other nations of Europe before playing my turn.

And another thing it seems i;m being phased out. No one has even mentioned me in the diplomacy, and Russia is still menacing my border...

Originally posted by voltar
And another thing it seems i;m being phased out. No one has even mentioned me in the diplomacy, and Russia is still menacing my border...

Afdter the recent disinigration of the Grand Alliance with SAS's surrender it seems to be every man for himself.

Well, Spain and France have a pretty good relationship....who wants to join our Band of Brothers? ;)

Originally posted by Patient English
Well, Spain and France have a pretty good relationship....who wants to join our Band of Brothers? ;)

*cough cough* Aren't you forgetting someone John? *cough cough*

Shhh....military secret don't y'know. Careless talk cost lives....;)

Um, Bump King, are you going to answer my email?

Originally posted by Case
Um, Bump King, are you going to answer my email?

Answered

Originally posted by Yop73
Today, some days after working out the peaceplan with Britain, diplomat Grandduc was sent on a secret mission to Berlin.
He met with Prussian diplomats and it became clear that both wanted to do the same thing: A defensive alliance.
Soon, the Prusso-French alliance was signed.
A Spanish mission from Madrid was also present, but their answer is still awaited. We hope they will also see the benefits of this new alliance and offer a triple-alliance.

Not exactly a secret John;)

Frustrated with being betrayed by our supposed 'allies', the Austrian government has anounced that it is adopting a policy of strict neutrality. The Austrian Army is currenty in the process of pulling back to the 'Imperial Redoubt'. The remaining units on the French borders will be withdrawn after completing their mission of covering the destruction of the roads leading from Austria to France.

...and thus ends a diplomatic disarster for Austria.

Henrik? :mischief:

Will play tomorow, sorry for being late, I've been away from the internet for the last two days. :o

Case, cutting roads is an aggressive action. I demand you immediately stop these road-cutting activities inside French territory or your minister of foreign affairs recieves a declaration of war. :evil:

Russian troops are being moved ;)

*French troops have fortified on road squares that are inside French territory and to prevent them from being destroyed by Austrian troops. We demand you immediately stop these acts of war or there might be a real war very soon.

I'll play tonight.....

Nothing to report....

Quiet...

Britain continues the huge task to send the german army home. But we're proud to announce that Hannover is ready to be handed over to the French.

Hannover to France

Good job SAS. :goodjob:

Prussia continues to try and develop trade.

The Austrian Army has continued it's withdrawals.

Has it continued to snap any roads?

The russian imperial army is bussying itself with some Cosack revolters in Ukraine.

Edit: odd, somehow I posted a single "x" here at 1:54 PM, when I wasn't even home... :confused:

Maybe my bro's playing games with me.

DP

Darius, it's your move (as the French).

Bump Darius!

Bump Darius, 3 Months and a few days

Forces along the Austrian border put on a lower level of alert; Taranto and Reggio captured.

I'm afraid I can't play my turn until Monday, as in less than an hour I have to pack my PC away to decorate the study. :(

Spain has moved (I just squeezed a move in!) ;)

No real news. Spanish have 40VPs, which with 35 starting VPs makes +14.29%

I have set my attitude to England to Trusting, so the peace treaty can be signed between us.....OK, SAS?

I played this turn because I didn't want to see the AI butcher it.

Peace treaty signed with Spain :)

Neopleon can expect to have received the remainder of the German cities within 3 months.

save name wrong? presumably this was the the british save...

wrong save, i will fix it when i get home :(

Correct save :)

With a change in leadership, I believe some diplomacy is in order............ Hint Hint Hint

The Austrian Army has freed the Greeks of Thessalonica from their Ottoman Opressors.

As usual the russian army is on the move... (and as usal it takes ages for it to get anywhere ;))

Darius

26 days! :mad:

Ok umm.. I kinda need a status report before I ump for the French. Any wars any treaties anything I gotta do?

France is at peace with England, after signing a peace agreement ;)

DARIUS!! 41 DAYS!! :mad:

Cmo'n someone play the turn..

Voltar is the umpire on this one. Play the turn, please, Voltar....

I tried to not do anything significant

Since John hasn't played I thought I'd squeeze this in, if that's ok.

I had exams like anyone else and immediately after them I was out of town, but a month is unacceptable, and I'm sorry. When I have only so much time and I have 10 other PBEM's to play in which (I'm sorry to say) are much more fulfilling, the extremely long turns here and in #7 just have to be given less priority. :(

Still, a lot of the PBEM's I was in before have died off or completed, and my courses this sem are easier, so I should have a lot more time from now on. Furthermore most of my units here have finally reached their destinations and fortified so this won't even be time-consuming.

Stian: when I joined I didn't know what your agreement was and hence missed that CivDip file, so just send a new one when both Hannover and Hamburg are good to go. :)

I'll play tonight.

Fine oranges sent to Bristol from Valencia. 736 gold.

Nothing much really happened..

Britain is trying to prevent a famine in England. We hope the harvest this year will be better than last year.

con- 4 days

Drinking hoards and hoards of Great German Beer and Singing Beer Hall songs while lusting after busty blonde Beer Hall Girls:smoke: :groucho:

Austria's sizable population of busty blond beer hall girls has been warned to watch out for rampaging Prussians.

Not much happening in Russia.

However something seems to be wierd with the file names of the saves. This was the september turn, not july...

Darius to play.

Darius 5 days