Hi all,

I have opened a new Civ4 BTS 3.17 PitBoss Game with following details:

8 players.
* Map: Shuffle.
* Map Size: Standard
* Climate: Temperature.
* Sea Level: Medium
* Speed: Normal.
* Difficulty: Noble
* 21 Hour turn timer.
* hamachi

If anyone interested, please sign up here with Name, Civilization, Leader wanted to picked up, time-zone. Thanks.

Players that have signed up:
1. tommy357, China, Mao ZeDong, GMT +8
2. Whiplash, Portgual, Jaho, GMT -5
3. zenspiderz, Mongolia, Kublia Khan, GMT
4. oyzar, Persia, Darius, ?
5. Hoplosternum, Ottomas, Mehmed II, ?
6. burlicconi, Dutch, Willijam van Oranje, GMT +1
7. Elkad, Ehiopia, Zara Yaqob, GMT -4
8. slaze, Maya, Pacal II, GMT -7

[GAME SLOT FULL]

I'm interested. Will we have some limits, or just can choose any civ we want?
I'm in Serbia, GMT + 1

I'm interested. Will we have some limits, or just can choose any civ we want?
I'm in Serbia, GMT + 1

There is no restriction, choose as u want:)

Then I will choose Villijam van Oranje, but maybe change my mind until start...
;)

Whiplash, USA (GMT-5), Wang Kon of China.

I don't know if we play with unrestricted leaders....

zenspiderz - cyrus of mongolia - UK GMT 0
if unrestricted leaders.

else kublia khan of mongolia

Pretty sure there isn't unrestricted leaders as it is not mentioned in the op. Darius of persia for me. If unrestricted leaders i'll go with darius of holy roman empire... GMT +1

Then I will choose Villijam van Oranje, but maybe change my mind until start...
;)

I'm sorry because I can't find Villijam van Oranje in PitBoss setup, would u choose another leader and civ?

I'm sorry because I can't find Villijam van Oranje in PitBoss setup, would u choose another leader and civ?

He's the Dutch (Netherlands) leader.

Ottomans - Mehmed II please.

GMT +1

And what is a shuffle map?

Shuffle is bascially continents pangea or arboria with equal chance. So have a leader that could work on both a land map or a sea map... BTW are we having any live sessions for this?

Hi all,

I think restricted leader is applied in our game.
Yes, shuffle means you may encounter more uncertainty in our game.

And there is no live session in our game, sorry.

:)

continents pangea or arboria with equal chance.

I was under the impression that it was like, pangea, archepelago or continents, and maybe fractal too.

I'll play, maya, gmt -8 (-7 currently)

I ment archepelago not arboria sorry.

EDIT:

scratch that. Sorry

Well, thats your 7.. if you want an 8th, I'll be..

Elkad, GMT-4, Ethiopia, Zara Yaqob (assuming standard leaders).

Actually it is 9, however things are up to tommy:p.

Whiplash, USA (GMT-5), Wang Kon of China.


On post #1 you have me as Korea. Are we going with unrestricted leaders? If not, I would prefer Jaho (Portugal).

I'm going to be out of town this weekend. If that slows things down feel free to give up my spot

I'm going to be out of town this weekend. If that slows things down feel free to give up my spot

Ok, never mind. We will stop playing on coming Sat and Sun. The game is already full and 8 players will play this game. I will PM my Hamachi info and Game info to you all.

If we can get this up and running I'll just set up some auto moves

If we can get this up and running I'll just set up some auto moves

Ok, slaze. If you can setup automoves, then we can continue playing on this Sat and Sun.

Hi all, I've PM all the Hamachi Info and Game info to you and the game is started. Hope you enjoy!

I've setup on www.civstat.com. The Game Name is CIV4NEW

Ok, slaze. If you can setup automoves, then we can continue playing on this Sat and Sun.

Yeah, no need to take it down. I'll set up the warrior's path and that'll be that

All but Hoplo have gotten into the game.

A new turn stated before 40 mins...
Good luck everyone ;)

I'll need it, my start is one of the worst starts i have seen in a while...

I'll need it, my start is one of the worst starts i have seen in a while...

never say never ;)

What is the barbarian setting for this game?

It should say ingame but as nothing is listed i would assume normal..

Barbarian setting: Normal

Notes all that there is some error on Civuploader and I have rebooted the computer. Now is fixed.

I can't connect and tommy doesn't respond to ping on hamachi...

EDIT: finally managed to connect but it was damn slow, maybe restart pitboss / the civstats uploader as some connection might be hanging?

I played 2 turns this morning and it was very, very slow. On the first turn it took about 3 minutes just to connect and another 2 minutes to load the game. After I made my move the turn rolled over and the game froze with me as the first player in the new turn. I quit and reconnected (again very slow) and finished the turn.

I hope this won't continue as a fault with a server in China as I think the game will die.

No problem for me

I know the connection is poor today. But now all is ok and return to normal.

odd.. my civ password arbitrarily reset itself to the game password

odd.. my civ password arbitrarily reset itself to the game password

That is odd. Mine is ok.

It said on civstats that you withdraw from game. Shame, it could be a good game ;p

odd.. my civ password arbitrarily reset itself to the game password

Just retire again and set it to what you want to set it to...

Already did that (retired and rejoined so I could fix my password)

Thats what you saw burcolinni.. the only way to change your pass is to quit to AI and then take over again, so thats what I did. I'm still playing

I know that, just kidding ;p
And my username mysterious changed to Administrator :D

I got to say i really like the pace of play so far :). Keep this up.

Hi Zen,

Sorry, because there is some crash on my server, I reload the recovery game. Zen, u need move your turn before the timer runs out.

Hoplosternum,

Sorry, the server again hang on 3/5/2008 9:00 am (GMT+8) and rebooted. Recovery game is reloaded and Hoplosternum needed to move this turn again.

:cry:

Hi Zen,

Sorry, because there is some crash on my server, I reload the recovery game. Zen, u need move your turn before the timer runs out.

I can't connect; host is not online.

Will try again later.

Nor me....

Hi all,

Try again, I have rebooted and reload the game.
Zen and Hop. can move their turn now.

tommy, do you reboot the server regurarly? That way it is less likely to cause crashes. I think the civstats uploader and maybe the pitboss program itself might have some issues with haning connections...

The game seems to be down- I couldn't connect, tried several times....
Said it was time- out...

I will try 3 or 4 days to reboot the server once.

now seems that everything is just fine....

tommy is not on hamachi.

The server is up now. All can move your turn.

Sorry, the server is rebooted. Slaze needs to move your turn again.

;)

i can't connect. You're yellow in Hamachi....

burlicconi, try to logon again. If the problems still arise, I will pause the game for 24 hours and then let u try again.

What are the game settings?

you can see it ingame and on the first post but the settings are something like shuffle(pangea) standard temperate medium sea. Basically everything is standard(tech trading on, vassals on, barbs and huts on etc...).

Server is down.

Server is fixed, all can move ur turn now.

I'll be absent for 10-11 days, but I'll probably find replacement, so just keep playing ;)

I'll be more than happy to take over your civ ;).

I'm subbing for berc apparantly, though i don't think im starting till tomorrow.

I just ment taking all his cities... Not logging in for him :p.

once again my password reset to the game password.. Odd.

edit:random replies in the wrong thread are bad

tommy is not on hamachi...

EDIT Nevermind

So in this game there is no rules about double moves?? Me and burlicconi had a gentlemens agreement for no double moves but with tommy now in the war declearing with a double move i am not going to put on silk gloves for him... Have fun with alarm clocks and multilogins because i know i will...(ofc i strongly disagree with his declaration of war as it is not gamemechanic related but instead personal, i can live with that though :p).

Personal as in "you stole his girlfriend"? Or as in "you win too much"?

"Hi Leader of Persia,

We're very disappointed as you have captured the city of Uzice. We hope you can immedaitely return the control of Uzice to burlicconi, King of Dutch. We do not want to use military means to settle this dispute as these harm your country and our interest."

Although i did kill him in both of our previous games together(one was a very early game limited space scenario as well...).

Game is up; but civstats is down.

Never mind...

Hi all,

There is no rules on double moves. Because you don't always get double moves.

No double move rules. Thats pretty lame. Oh well....

I'll be avoiding doubles as long as any future opponent reciprocates.

I'll be avoiding doubles as long as any future opponent reciprocates.

So will I :)

Same here... ME and burlicconi have yet to double turn each other on anything meaningfull and for that i am happy. Now that the war with tommy is over as well i'll prolly try to make deals against double turns in future wars.

Zen do you read civstats?

Ok, we can think and set some rules about double moves.

Announcement!!

I still can't remember my password for civstats and the site doesn't have any function for reseting password etc. SO all diplo with zen of mongolia must go through civfanatics pms for the time being. OK?

Hi, Server was again down and now is up. Zen please move your turn again.

I can't get in....

And now I can get in :)

nice double-move tommy..

If we have a rule, I'd like a reload to prior to tommys turn, 875BC, that was pretty critical

As you can see from earlier discussion in this thread any rules against double moves in this game is yet to be implemented...

he said "we can set some rules".. granted the discussion never got farther than that, but I was hoping he'd step up and play fair.

Will you be upgrading to the new patch soon? I would really prefer to not have to do a dual install...

I'd vote to patch right now. Maybe take the game down for a day or too to give all time to patch

I can't continue in this game until the host patches. I've been kinda forced to patch in order to keep up with the other games I'm in.

I suggest the game be taken down until all players have patched.

zen has patched.

I'll patch later today as well... Hope you will patch shortly as this is fixing alot of bugs with the game and would save people from having to do dual installs...

I've patched to BTS version 3.17 Please update your version.

I am just letting you guys know that I am taking over for oyzar while he is gone.

I have troubles with new patch...
I couldn't take my last turn and probably my next...
i don't know what is the problem, games starts to loading, and then nothing happens...

I am just letting you guys know that I am taking over for oyzar while he is gone.

I cleared him up with the situation ingame so I can still handle diplomacy and stuff through civstats...

I finally manage to get my civ back, but I must ask for reload. I missed 3 turns, and I think it's crucial... At least, for me it's crucial ;p
reload of 3 turns back will be awesome ;)

edit: double posts...

Ok, then we reload to turn 83, 800BC as burlicconi request. :)

All is patched to BTS 3.17 already? Now the game is continue running. If anyone need time to patch, just post here. I may pause the game one or two days to let you patch.

All is patched to BTS 3.17 already? Now the game is continue running. If anyone need time to patch, just post here. I may pause the game one or two days to let you patch. Oyzar asked me (yesterday) to sub for him for any turns that CH was unable to ... but he did not mention the patch up issue (which means I have to dual install and won't have that done until the turn rolls) ... any chance we could reload to 750 BC so Persia won't miss the turn?

It will also be interesting to see if that three turn rollback managed to undo all of oyzar's ingame instructions to his subs ... :eek:

dV

I'm sorry that I think we can't reload to 750 BC. Do you need some days to patch, DV? Although you can still play with old patch. :)

I'm sorry that I think we can't reload to 750 BC. Do you need some days to patch, DV? Although you can still play with old patch. :) I should be good to go tomorrow, if CH doesn't play (he is the primary sub, I am a last resort). I am testing the renamed files to be sure they work before I run the patch tomorrow.

Hmm ... one can play with the old patch? Then why all of the hoopla in the thread about patching, and pausing to patch? :confused: :crazyeye:

dV

I actually logged on after the reload to reset most of the instructions.. (I don't have access to civ now and i am still on vacation btw:p), I saw i missed a turn already.. would be nice to have that one reloaded...

I did have one missed turn as a reesult of a fault in my telephone line, but I would not say that a reload is needed since most of the moves were set in motion. The second missed turn was a memory lapse due to tiredness so I went to bed and I woke up after the turn expired but only remembered now. :blush: so that one definitely does not need a reload.

Is it possible for Tommy to kick oyzar out of civstats so that I can view the game in my games and have it easy for me to see when the turn ticks over and thus not forget about it?

Hi classical hero,

I've unregister oyzar on civstat.com and you can register it on civstat.com see PM for details.

Since i am no longer on civstats if anyone wants to contact me they have to pm me on here(or talk on msn ofc).

I am back so if i could get back civstats that would be nice.

I would have unregistered yesterday, but I was having problem with civstats, but you have it anyway.

Tommy is not on hamachi...

I see him on hamachi, but can't connect to the game

The server is up now. All should move your new turn 400BC.

Connection timed out.

The server is up. The turn is 375BC.

The buggy trade interface is amazing...

yup, it would probably be better if you could only have 1 trade out at a time..

"sorry, Elkad is already trading with someone, please try again next turn"...

The server has crashed and is fixed. Please Whiplash move your turn again. Sorry

Server is rebooted and Zen need to move your turn again. Sorry.

The load is extremely sloooooooooooooow. Is there anything that can be done about it or is it just because the server is in China?

I can't get in at all... Seems like something started to upload indefinatly... Unless you have infinite upload i would suggest you fix this asap...

The game is insanely slow... When was last time you restarted the server?

It's been running OK for me lately; but a few turns back it would take 10 minutes to load the game after connection.

I can't log in :(

Weird.. I was just in the game...

Yeah i can still get in...

Hi all,

burlicconi has not played for a few turns and he said he will leave the game soon. So do I need to find a replacement here now?

Better to find a replacement than to turn him to AI...

Better to find a replacement than to turn him to AI...

Yes but you won't find it easy to replace him as his civ isn't in a good position.

Better give it to AI than have his civ without any player.

Well, I have made something of a career of taking over civs in bad positions, so I might be persuaded ... ;)

Just how badly are you all beating up on the poor lad ... :mischief:

dV

well, he's not in immediate danger of death....

well, he's not in immediate danger of death.... Ahh, from the one person who knows what I am talking about, and who has felt my pain (or did I feel his? :crazyeye:) :lol:

Is he at war currently? If not, it is amazing what you can do with the right alliance ... :deal:

dV

Can't login again.

Which kind of bad since I am at war and might not be able to login later. Really not a good time to miss a turn.

DV, you want to take the replacement of burlicconi, Empire of Dutch?

I'm waiting for your reply.

Oh dV i am sure we'll be great friends :D. That said i can't login either... How about we reload from the start of the turn? Did you reboot the machine recently? If you don't reboot things often it might cause things to hang...(that is assuming me and zen can't get in later).

When you say you can't get in, does that mean you do not connect? Or, do you connect but the game doesn't load?

If it's the latter, you may just have to wait longer. My experience with this server is that sometimes it loads quickly, other times I need to wait as much as 10 minutes for the game to load.

DV, you want to take the replacement of burlicconi, Empire of Dutch?

I'm waiting for your reply. Answer is yes ... two steps I think ... kick him to AI, and send me info to get to your hamachi network (and set me up to register on civstats)

dV

i can't connect, and also have little time, at least for now...
feel free to substitute me, and I would like to apologize to other players because of great delay I have made.
I only hope that n few weeks I will have time again to play with CIV :)
Good luck!

i can't connect, and also have little time, at least for now...
feel free to substitute me, and I would like to apologize to other players because of great delay I have made.
I only hope that n few weeks I will have time again to play with CIV :)
Good luck! I am in the network, but need:

1. Password to enter game (PM)

2. burlicconi to PM me his civ password OR he kicks or is kicked to AI so I can pick up and create my own.

dV

I am seriously contemplating quitting this game after some recent ingame events. If anyone feel like taking over my position contact me...

Uh. "The chosen game is full".. ? Never seen that message before.

I can't connect.

I got in fine

I got in, but after a long wait after the password entry ...

dV

I still can't get in.

Hamachi reports status "unreachable" to Tommy.

I can ping others in the group, but not Tommy.

Try restarting hamachi or your computer, it have worked for me in the past.

Well, I won't be able to do that before the turn rollover unless I leave early from work.

Try restarting hamachi or your computer, it have worked for me in the past.


Thanx, that did the trick.

I can't connect and as i'll be gone for a long time from now i'll prolly need a reload later on...

EDIT: I got in :D

I can't connect and as i'll be gone for a long time from now i'll prolly need a reload later on...

Does that mean you really need a pause ... ?

Or was that just if you didn't get in now that you might need a reload?

dV

I got in(as i said), but i just was at a bachelor party(for me) and i am not sure i am in a condition to play right now...

I got in(as i said), but i just was at a bachelor party(for me) and i am not sure i am in a condition to play right now... Ahh ... you are loaded, so you need a reload? :lol:

dV

No i don't need a reload...

Very good one dv. :lol:

Hi, guys, how things are going? Is the game still interesting, just as when I left?

Hi, guys, how things are going? Is the game still interesting, just as when I left? The Dutch are making a comeback ... ;)

dV

Looks like tom's down

I have been getting timeouts while trying to beat the clock to login before the turn rolled over ...

dV

Sorry, the server is rebooted and is back again.

:)

Thanks Tom

tommy just went offline on hamachi.

He is back again

The server is back again.

I will pause the game for 12 hours as Zen requested. Please be patient after the game is resumed. :)

As Zen does not seem to be reading his Civstat messages I'll post this here.

I logged in to the game by mistake but have NOT moved or taken my turn this round. So Zen still has a couple of hours before I take my turn to take his.

Sorry about that!

I have paused the game for 12 hours and now the game is resumed. :)

Hello from Iran :)

Unfortunatley I have found that the house i am staying at is in the boonies and doesn't have broadband, only dail-up. dail up seems to be inadequate for connecting to the game. I am going to try and find an internet cafe nearby but it will probably just have dail up and not wifi broadband.

so probably i will have to the host will have to kick me to ai or have a sub take it over until i get back. it wouldn't be so bad but i have an army in the field that needs orders!:lol:

oh well zen

Well maybe that will mean I have a chance :) But it will add to the humiliation if the AI beats me.... ;)

Best option would certanly to find a sub, i'll see what i can do...

Ok, now I post new thread to find sub for Zen. Before finding the sub. I decided to change Zen to AI control.:)

Looks like the AI didn't manage to take the city at least...

Best option would certanly to find a sub, i'll see what i can do... You should ask your buddy Bernout ... ;) :lol:

dV

I did ask him actually... Everyone i ask is wondering how long they need to sub for though...

It's not going to make much difference probably. The AI is camped outside my capital in a forest. I can't attack him and hes too weak to take me out.

I doubt that will change in the next dozen turns....

My this game is a joy to play ;)

I'll be gone this weekend. I got a sub. Maybe you know him

hi just to let you know I am coming back on 1st or 2nd of september.

Looks like zen tried to log in but didn't get in... At any rate he is no longer AI... so should kick him again to prevent abuse...

The AI is certainly not doing much better. A mounted warlord unit given tactics is one step ahead of "attacking" troops. That'll get him alone on a jungle square in enemy lines, as I witnessed.

So, Zen is AI or not now? Should I change him to AI?:)

Well the AI did not prove to be much of an opponent in the end. He decided to attack me where I was strong :) But at the moment he is simply missing turns which is even easier....

Now if only you can arrange for Elkad to miss his next dozen turns I am sure I can turn this one around :)

I am away this weekend so I have double turned Elkad. I haven't attacked him in the 'double' move (I killed the Explorer in the initial turn) and no cities or units were vulnerable. I have simply moved a few units around.

Hope that is OK.

ha.. if I'd read the boards things would have made more sense when I logged in.

its manageable, though I suspect the reinforcments in the city didn't get there in 1 turn. My misclick on the prior turn (to the grassland instead of the woods, letting you counterattack at parity) stalled my advance there anyway.

Most did arrive on the second turn. But your two troops a full strength Maceman and a slightly damaged Oromo (7 Str) would have been at a disadvantage attacking my city which had two dug in units with culture and full strength. Plus a damaged third unit. Then my 5 or so reinforcements would have arrived. So I could not see many options for you on that front anyway.

Besides this war shouldn't take long. I can't fight rifles. Nor get peace with AI Zen.

Yeah, that was my point. I'd already misclicked, allowing you to kill the other oromo in the open, so you doubling at that point didn't matter. I was already stalled.

I'm stuck with an AI-Zen that won't make peace in BTS-Earth as well, but I think he's supposed to be back the 1st. (tomorrow).

Hello i am back

lots have changed since last played a turn. hoplo has made good use of my absence its seems. oh well. i should have found a sub.

I keep forgeting that some players in this game actually have meaningful stuff to discuss ...

The Dutch Dutchy, headquartered in HELL, on the other hand ... :rolleyes:

As in ... oyzar to dV: "How long for you to research ?????"

dV to oyzar: :lol: :rotfl: :lol:

dV

I will close my server for several hours to maintenance. Please accept my apologize.

Can't connect or see Tommy on Hamachi - presumably for maintenance - but the timer keeps ticking....

Actually the timer isn't ticking... Check the game itself on civstats.

Well on my Civstats it was about 4 hours something when I posted before. Now its just over an hour left. And no Tommy on Hammachi.

My games on civstats is bugged, don't listen to it :p.

My games on civstats is bugged, don't listen to it :p. Bugged? you spying on everyone? :lol:

dV

Hi all,

The server is restarted and the game is resumed. The year is 1210 AD, please move your turn. :)

Well that was unpleasant. Misclick combined with stack-attack leftover from my last SP game=dead army

I wondered what happened to all your troops until I looked in the combat logs :) Looks like I'll live a bit longer :(

zen have missed 7 of the last 8 turns...

I'll take over from him ;)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=291090 need a replacement for slaze, and probably for zen as well(unless he makes a sound?), would be nice to take the game down until then?

Game is down.

Sorry guys, I gotta drop. I need a sub and a reload.

Sorry for missing so many turns. it was supposed to be just a couple but oh well. i have rather lost interest in the game i suppose. could use a permanent sub.

With two players missing this game is kinda lame... would be nice to have the game taken down until we find replacements...

Log in and pause ... ? :lol:

dV

Now I paused the game and need to get current situation. Is slaze and zen out of game and need to find sub. for them? Before finding sub, I will put them to AI. What do you think all?

With two players missing this game is kinda lame... would be nice to have the game taken down until we find replacements...

I agree.......

I am happy to take over both of them :p Purely for the good of the game of course. Someone must turn back the Norweigan hordes ;)

I am happy to take over both of them :p Purely for the good of the game of course. Someone must turn back the Norweigan hordes ;)

Or I could take them over. Wouldn't it make relations simpler if you had the same neighbor on all 3 sides of you? :P

So split them?

dV

Seems like replacement for slaze is fixed now we are just missing zen, i think ian might agree to take that position, once they both post in this thread we can start(and kick them to AI so they can be taken over).

I'll take over for Zen.

Now Hoplo. takes over both Hoplo. and slaze; and IanDC takes over Zen, right?

I could take over slaze
feel free to take me over afterwards (if you dare!)

Amask for slaze, hoplo for hoplo, ian for zen and everyone else for themselves as well...

You could take the game up again now...

The last turn I played was 1260 AD, 8:04 AM on 9/11. 1270 I was yet to play.

Now I change slaze and Zen to AI now. I reload the game at 1270AD. The game timer is 21 hours. I also unregister slaze and Zen on civstat. so that they can register at civstat. Please PM me for civstat password.

Now I change slaze and Zen to AI. I reload the game at 1270AD. The game timer is 21 hours. I also unregister slaze and Zen on civstat. so that they can register at civstat. Please PM me for civstat password.

Connection times out.

Connection times out. Ditto

dV

The server is up now. All players can move their turn.

Whats our current turn order? Looks like Oyz(levgree) is moving after his war opponents? I've been moving before Hoplo, but with Oyz moving after, it puts him in a box.

I'd be fine with switching to "after", if that works better, as I'm apparently in the smallest amount of wars.

I am just sitting there, minding my own business, and all of a sudden I am at war with half the world? :eek: :crazyeye:

Seriously, I have not seen any tactical situations that make turn order an issue for me ... so I am going to assume it is not, unless someone tells me that they think it is (or unless I see that it becomes an issue)

dV

I think the main issue is me and Hoplo. If Hoplo's other opponents are moving after Hoplo (which is what it looks like from Civstats), I'm happy switching to after as well.

The war is soooo one sided and hopeless it really doesn't matter when I move. Really I don't know why you & Levgree didn't kill all my troops last turn. It's infantry & Rifles against janissaries (Muskets) & Longbows! Plus you have Catapults to soften me up if you like.

I haven't deliberately double moved anyone but with four enemies and such a tech and troop gap I'm just moving when I can. I had hoped the other 3 would join forces and try and stop the big bad four :p But they have decided to fight amongst themselves instead :( As that was my last hope, not of surviving, but at least seeing you get your comeuppence ;) So I am not too bothered if you play out of turn, it really can't be long now :)

I am just sitting there, minding my own business, dV

I tried that and look where it got me :)

Indeed, I try to remain neutral on the war between BS_prophet side and our side. I won't send any troops and armies to invade other countries land. I hope we can peacefully develop together and everyone has rights to survive and develop in this world. This is my views on this war.

As I am on holiday for the next nine days I have turned myself over to the AI. Should I still be there by the time I get back I'll take over again :)

Power cut.

Reloaded. Classical Hero needs to replay the turn.

surely this is in the wrong thread :p.

Dear all leaders,

Wars are prevailing everywhere in the world. Citizens are suffering from the raging war. I hope all the leaders can sit together and negotiate for the peace. Our citizens demand to develop their world peacefully.

Faithfully,
Tommy the Chinese.

:)

That is what happens when you chose to play a game without always peace selected...

And ... even culture can be an instrument of war ... :mischief:

dV

I would be interested in playing an always peace game after this one is over.

My comp is down for a while. Boot me to AI.

would anyone, and most of all you, mind if I take over for the time being?
we do have common goals in the near future, and I did give you a bunch of troops (don't want to see the AI waste them)

I have booted whiplash to AI, anyone wish to take him over can go to take control of him.

BS-Whip you just double-moved me, resulting in the destruction of my stack.

We need a reload to prior to whip's turn please.

Tommy is gone for the weekend or something? Still waiting on the reload.

1530AD, prior to Whip's turn.

I have booted whiplash to AI, anyone wish to take him over can go to take control of him.

My comp is back running, but I need the login data.

sorry, didn't realize
I was away from friday around the time the turn started, till just now, and just made the turn without thinking
if we have to reload, might as well reload to before whip was booted to AI
the AI wasted some troops on suicide attacks that weren't followed up, and also moved 1/3 of the stack in the city somewhere west
that included artillery that would've been used in the attack

on second thought, we could also call it even
you had 6 units iirc, which would not have been up for promotions in 1530 had the AI not attacked them the turn before
so assuming the AI had never taken a turn, you would've either attacked in 1530, retreated, or stayed in place...
if you attacked, you kill 3-4 units, but then probably die without inflicting further losses (damaged after attack)
if you retreat or stay, you probably kill 3-4 units before you die to siege

so the double move took away from your ability to kill a couple more units
the AI boot cost whip a couple more units, and the moved away artillery - had it been there, whip would suffer even fewer losses during the big battle than he had

we could go on, or we could reload
whiplash probably wants to play the battle himself though...

I just don't like the maybes...

Several of those units were very highly promoted. Given the opportunity to use my siege first, I expect I would have fared at least somewhat better than I did.

I'd still like a reload.

so can we get a reload to 1525?

Tommy haven't done much reloads in the past.. doubt he'll do one now...

Sorry, In this game I have no rules on double move, so I don't prefer to reload the games. :eek:

whiplash, please PM to BS_prophet to get your logon info and details. you still can use civstat.com as I have not reset anything on civstat.com

I already sent him the pass

as for the double move, I'll try to keep moving first for my own civ as I did for all this time...
I work 7 to 3 in the gmt -5 zone, aka EST
oyzar and elkad, what time are you usually available?
I foresee some problems with turns starting after 11pm my time, 3-4 am gmt, as I try to get some decent sleep in every night and don't always feel like, or not always physically able to... get up 20 minutes earlier to play the turn (getting up when it's still pitch black is just disgusting)
I guess we can try working those situations out as they arise
in case a big crucial battle comes at a time like that, I suppose we could try just pausing the game for maybe 5-6 hours? I don't think people would mind that greatly

Sorry, In this game I have no rules on double move, so I don't prefer to reload the games. :eek:

Would have been nice to know that 2 turns ago. I was expecting a reload, so I didn't move so I wouldn't get information I shouldn't have. You said "lets think of some double move rules" a long time ago. I assumed there would be some, especially if both civs agreed to it.

So I haven't even taken my last 2 turns. I logged in, saw the double move, and logged out without doing anything, and then missed the next turn as well.

amask/whip. at this point you guys might as well play first I guess.

amask/whip. at this point you guys might as well play first I guess.

Right now I can't play at all because I don't have the connect data. No response from the host to e-mail or PM.

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