Is anyone else outraged? Valve took a perfectly balanced game and ruined it. After playing last night, no one is interested in playing the game anymore. It's basically dissolved into the game of a million medics purley to get the achievements. Nobody even cares about the new maps or anything.

And with the weapon leveling thing, the game is no longer based on the skill of the player, but on number of hours played. Once everyone has leveled up, new people will have no chance of having any fun.

I really hope they recall this one. I'd hate to see my favorite game degenerate into stat padding that often plauges Battlefield 2.

So many medics... So so many medics... :cry:

It was out?

Damn. My guess of the exact time of my birth (plus 19 years) was wrong.

Don't worry, it will be like this for a bit but then people will go back to playing other classes. This is exactly what I thought would happen when it was released.

Good thing I won't be playing it until Friday, less medics by then hopefully.

I feel bad for one admin on my fav server, he almost had 10,000,000 heal points and then they lowered it to one million for the achievment!

The new weapons seem to make little difference when it comes to game difficulty or balance from what I've seen.

Anyway in the games I played the only difference when it comes to people playing medics before the patch and after the patch is teams actually have enough medics on the team. I have not seen excessive use of medics.

Anyway in the games I played the only difference when it comes to people playing medics before the patch and after the patch is teams actually have enough medics on the team. I have not seen excessive use of medics.

I made it into the valve test serverlast night. Each team had at least 12-13 medics at all times. No one was even trying to play the game, just get the achievements. A heavy ran towoard me puching and yelling "don't kill me, please, I have to get the achievement!!" I shot him pretty quick. I think the game is suffering right now. It was even goldrush! Nobody even cared to try the new map out for real.

I made it into the valve test serverlast night. Each team had at least 12-13 medics at all times. No one was even trying to play the game, just get the achievements. A heavy ran towoard me puching and yelling "don't kill me, please, I have to get the achievement!!" I shot him pretty quick. I think the game is suffering right now. It was even goldrush! Nobody even cared to try the new map out for real.

In my first game on Goldrush there were these two guys who were trying to get an achievement while the rest of the team was fighting for their lives and losing, they eventually gave up and decided to help, but it was still very annoying.

Give it a week or so. Most of the guys trying to get the new achievements will have them by then or give up on them.

I've never noticed problems with the number of medics since the update. I can actually get a heal now! Too bad none of them seem to have a clue on how to uber...

I played medic all the time, even before the update. People used to really appreciate that. Now the market is flooded, and the value will go down. :(

Once the Engi achievements come out, all the noobs will play Engi again so it'll pretty much revert back to normal then.

Once the Engi achievements come out, all the noobs will play Engi again so it'll pretty much revert back to normal then.

right! :lol:

Been playing Goldrush today and it's pretty crazy. It's pretty much constant, chaotic action circulating around the bomb cart which can result in some really tense moments when the bomb is afew feet away from a checkpoint with only thirty seconds or so left in the round. Much fun :D

Unlocks though I think are a bad idea. Achievements are a cool side feature, but weapon unlocks I don't like. Grind along with the mediswarm and get a somewhat different saw? Ugh, no thanks. I'd rather have all the content available right off the uber-bat. Thankfully the unlocks look to be fairly well balanced so they shouldn't be too big of a deal, but still. :sad:

Unlocks though I think are a bad idea. Achievements are a cool side feature, but weapon unlocks I don't like. Grind along with the mediswarm and get a somewhat different saw? Ugh, no thanks. I'd rather have all the content available right off the uber-bat. Thankfully the unlocks look to be fairly well balanced so they shouldn't be too big of a deal, but still. :sad:

The unlocks don't seem to be better, just different. I still don't like the idea though. I want to know that I kill (or am killed) because of skill, not an unlocked weapon.

Well, even an unskilled player can easily kill you with quite a few weapons vs classes.

(IE critical melee hit on a pyro)

I quit this game early on because while it was a blast it was very dry and one dimensional, I downloaded the update and I must say not a whole lots changed since then.......

The unlocks don't seem to be better, just different.

In the league I play in (ETF2L) you get no crits, so the upgraded needlegun is definately an improvement. I must say the medic craze seems to have died by now.

The new needle-gun is the only one I'd consider an upgrade. Kritzkrieg provides a totally different approach and Ubersaw loses valuable killing time.

So the pyro is probably next, digging around in the files and code people found Pyro added to the list for the new coding/achievements after Medic.

That's cool, pyro is one of my favourite classes

I must say, things are pretty much back to normal. I was just really angry that first night.

Yeah. still find a few servers that are farming achievements.

Aside, who's tried cp_steel?

Aside, who's tried cp_steel?

I don't care much for the custom maps, except the orange ones.

Bigfoot, trust me, you're missing out on some gems.

I don't remember if I played steel or not, can you describe it?

Huge map. Uhhh... 5 points, A-E, you can attack E at any time, but capping A-D makes it easier to cap E. A is a bit of a hill with a biggish cap point, B is like a raised area protected on 2 sides by a barrier, C is next to a bridge, D is inside. E is across a large chasm, under a rocket

I've played a bit of steel, its alright but not great IMO.

Huge map. Uhhh... 5 points, A-E, you can attack E at any time, but capping A-D makes it easier to cap E. A is a bit of a hill with a biggish cap point, B is like a raised area protected on 2 sides by a barrier, C is next to a bridge, D is inside. E is across a large chasm, under a rocket

Ah yes, interesting map. Not bad, could be tweaked a bit though.

Anyone played Oil Rig? Its got a zillion passages, half of which are half-circles and are rather pointless. If those were fixed though it would be an even better map.

Bigfoot, trust me, you're missing out on some gems.

Well, now that I think about it, toy fort was great, as well as desert fortress. Almost all the orange ones are very good. But others, like mario kart, are just very bad, or at most 2 flags.

The only custom map I like it ctf_turbine. All the others I played made me turn off the do not download custom content filter.

The only custom map I like it ctf_turbine. All the others I played made me turn off the do not download custom content filter.

Ugh, turbine. It's an okay map but I HATE it when it has more than 16 people playing and more than 1 sentry gun per side.

Actualy that's the same for any CTF map.

For custom maps, you just have to find a good server. The one I play on usually has good custom maps, occaisionaly a new map isn't that great but it's removed if it's not popular.

Well, now that I think about it, toy fort was great, as well as desert fortress. Almost all the orange ones are very good. But others, like mario kart, are just very bad, or at most 2 flags.

The Orange X v6 map is a bit rubbish really. The overhead ramp and the dispensers everywhere make engineers and heavies a lot less useful as they can't hide.

From IGN.com (http://pc.ign.com/articles/882/882072p1.html)

Valve, creators of award-winning games and leading technologies, today announced a set of new releases for Team Fortress 2, the title named Multiplayer Game of the Year by PC Gamer and Gamespy.com.

The main event of the week is the Pyro Update, which will be made available this Thursday and contains three unlockable new weapons for the Pyro plus 35 new achievements. In addition, two user- created maps are included to highlight the great work being done in the community and distribute those works to all TF2 players...

Meanwhile as folks wait for the Pyro Update to be released, the latest in the "Meet the Team" video shorts, "Meet the Sniper," will be made available tomorrow (Tuesday, June 17) at 11 am PDT along with a web site dedicated to the Pyro update.

Finally, to give everyone a chance to try the new weapons and community maps, Valve will hold another Team Fortress 2 Free Weekend via Steam, a leading online platform for the delivery and management of PC games. The Free Weekend is scheduled to begin this Friday at 11 am PDT.

This is great as I wasn't expecting this until at least July. Pyro's my favorite class though there will be little reason to play it since everyone else will be.

Thanks for posting that J. I just wish the update wasn't right on top of my last final exam. :sad:

I'll be a total lamer and camp in an achievement box if the unlocks make the pyro playable in 6v6. The axtinghuisher isn't worth it though, hopefully the melee weapon is the last unlock (like it was with the medic).

The next big update has been released.

The flare gun is the first unlock, and it looks to be the coolest. As for the new maps, I'm sure a lot of you are saying who cares, I played those anyway. :D

I'vep layed turbine, I don't like it when it has sentries and/or more than 12 people.

Turbine is the standard ctf map, half the people fighting in the middle, the rest camping with the sentries on/near the intel.

Well, what about fastlane?

Well, what about fastlane?

Dunno, I've never played it.

The pyro achievements are much easiser than the medic ones were. You also don't need every last one of them to get all 3 new weapons. I have the flare gun, which is really good, and the backburner, which I guess is neat but I don't use because I like the airburst too much.

Having not been able to play while I download two games I bought off steam (even when paused, my ping excedes 300-400), what is the air burst?

Having not been able to play while I download two games I bought off steam (even when paused, my ping excedes 300-400), what is the air burst?

I think it's officially called the compression tank, but it's a new addition to the standard flamethrower. Right click and a big puff of air shoots out the front. It doesn't do any damage, but it can reflect grenades and rockets back at the enemy. It's really awesome. No more cheapo demoman kills. When you reflect a regualr grenade (not a sticky), it changes to your team's color, so you can kill a demo with is own grenade. It can also be used to push people around; helpful when spies run up on you or if someone is standing on an edge.

It eats up ammo really quick and has a kind of slow recharge, so it works without being too spammy. One of the downsides of the backburner is that it doesn't have one of these.

Its no fun playing a pyro when everyone else is :(

I like the Fastlane map and new Pyro stuff. Great improvements to CTF_Well as well.

Its no fun playing a pyro when everyone else is :(

I don't think the pyro wave will last as long as the medic one did. The acheivements are much easier this time around, and you don't even need to get all of them.

I think it's good that you don't need them all to get the weapons, as I really want the weapons, but I don't want to farm.

I think it's officially called the compression tank, but it's a new addition to the standard flamethrower. Right click and a big puff of air shoots out the front. It doesn't do any damage, but it can reflect grenades and rockets back at the enemy. It's really awesome. No more cheapo demoman kills. When you reflect a regualr grenade (not a sticky), it changes to your team's color, so you can kill a demo with is own grenade. It can also be used to push people around; helpful when spies run up on you or if someone is standing on an edge.

It eats up ammo really quick and has a kind of slow recharge, so it works without being too spammy. One of the downsides of the backburner is that it doesn't have one of these.

It's also really good at removing stickies from your path if a demo has just left a lot of stickes on a point.

Pyro really needed this update as Pyros sadly tended to be quite ineffective before. Hopefully now they will be a threat rather than a muffled flamey annoyance.

Meet the Sniper was excellent, too. Probably the most well made of all the 'Meet the..' videos.

Be polite, be efficient, have a plan to kill everyone you meet :cool:

They weren't a threat before because people didn't use them effectively. I myself and I have seen others use them to great effectiveness, and ubered pyro is a force to be reckoned with, especially when you have both an uber and kritz on you!

Even when used properly they were usually not as useful to the team as a Soldier, Heavy or Demoman would be in the same situation IMHO. Problem was that even when ambushing they would frequently get gibbed with a couple good rocket blasts and die without being able to make any meaningful impact (and I think Valve have recognised this with the Pyro buff that has come with the Pyro pack)

Opinion time.

Which is better, flamethrower + compression blast or the backburner?

Which is better, flamethrower + compression blast or the backburner?

I'd take the air blast any day. The backburner is really good, but I like bouncing rockets and grenades so much more.

I haven't had enough experience with either of them to make a judgement at this point, though I suspect I will end up prefering the Backburner.

I just want this Pyro thing to stop. I haven't been able to play a Pyro for a full round since the update. Whenever I do select a Pyro at the beginning of a map three or four other people still select the Pyro after me. Even when no one on the team is playing a Soldier and Demoman.

I can't even play a Soldier anymore because that was all I was playing at first to try to keep the teams somewhat balanced and I'm sick of it. I don't remember how long it took to balance out the medic update, but for this Pyro fan its been too long already.

The airblast is fun, but you really need the extra 50 health now, as there is NO damage reduction anymore, and the backburner iws still bugged as I am often killing peoplewith crits when they are facing me and vice versa as well as being killed and killing people with it (even with the extra 50 health) in 1/100th of a second or something like that.

I absolutely hate the backburner. +50 health and a critical from behind results in me dead in half a second and not being able to do anything to fight back at all. I really dont see too many situations where id prefer the original flamethrower over the backburner.

I like the axtinguisher, mainly because its a bit hard to use (if your on fire your probobly going to run.)

The flare gun is designed soley to make the snipers day a living hell. :mad:

The flare gun is designed soley to make the snipers day a living hell. :mad:

And boy did we need one of those!

The flare gun is just fun :) I've acctually gotten kills with it, but it is mroe of a situational weapon, as the shotgun is far more lethal. sirtommygunn, you need to learn how to avoid turning your back to pyros then.

Ok, after some fairly extensive play-testing, the backburner is very useful against heavys, scouts, other pyros, engis, and the occasional suicidal sniper. However, Soldiers, Demomen, and Medics are best countered using the compression blast (medic because you blow him away from his protection/ubermate)

Medics burn to death really really fast. (Not when running away so much, but when in direct contact with your flamer).

The airblast is fun, but you really need the extra 50 health now, as there is NO damage reduction anymore, and the backburner iws still bugged as I am often killing peoplewith crits when they are facing me and vice versa as well as being killed and killing people with it (even with the extra 50 health) in 1/100th of a second or something like that.

Backburner crits when facing front is fixed in today's update. Also, heavy is confirmed (http://www.teamfortress.com/) as the next class getting unlockables.

With airblast it got a lot easier (as in: doable) to defend the last cap on gravelpit. I like that, a change for the better. I don't use the backburner because in 6v6 crits are disabled anyway, so I rather practice with the airblast.

BTW, shouldn't this thread be merged with the old TF2 thread?

Wonder how quickly they will put this pack out?

BTW, shouldn't this thread be merged with the old TF2 thread?

I don't know, this is more just about what the updates are bringing, rather than gameplay and such.

I really want the heavy to have brass knuckles for one of the unlocks. For whatever replaces the shotgun, I guess they can just go crazy. I don't know what will replace the minigun, though. Maybe less HP more firepower?

The heavy is gonig to get some kind of minor self healing, at least according to the blog.

I saw a mockup of a Bofors flakgun. It'd be a nice change, the rapid firing with the large spread v.s. the slow firing weapon with large splash damange. Unless the grenades would go really fast it'd be very simiilar to the soldier's rocket launcher though.

Overall, what do you guys think of steam?

Do you think it will be around for another 10, 20, years or even longer? I wonder because there are some games I still play that are 5 years old or more and I worry that games I buy on Steam I might never get back if, for some reason, Valve shuts it down or something.

I bought Civ 4 + BTS through steam even after buying vanilla civ4 retail (I gave it to my brother after I bought the steam version) so I have put a lot of trust into Steam and I would love to see more developers and game makers take advantage of it and other outlets like it (Stardock games like Sins of a Solar Empire is a good example of this).

Anyway I didn't want to make a new thread just to hear some thoughts on that. :)

Steam is the only way I can get games at an equivalent price to the US. I sure hope it stays, with its comparitively cheap prices.

Overall, what do you guys think of steam?

I think it's good? :shrug:

It's good for downloading and the automatic updates are convinient. I mostly like it for the friend system, that makes it really easy to meet up with people in-game.

By the way, MrPopov, if you would like, you can join the CFC Steam group by posting on this thread. (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=281344)

I hope that Valve and its partners would release some kind of final patch or something that allows you to burn the copies of games you own to DVD if they ever decided (or were forced) to shut down the servers. Anyway I was reluctant to again purchase a game on steam vs buying retail box, but in the end I bought Rainbow Six Vegas on steam :)

VALVe has said they have a plan to release Steam if the company dies.

I too prefer buying the boxed copies, here at least they are on par with the US prices, although I have bought games via steam since they were cheaper and a hell of a lot easier to find. (San Andreas, Half-Life Anthology, Red Orchestra). Although the auto-update isn't always a good thing, but at least with STALKER it only updates it to 1.005 as there aren't any mods for 1.006.

The heavy update is on the way!

According to here (http://www.teamfortress.com/), along with the new Heavy weapons and unlockables will come a new game mode with five maps, a new payload map and a new community map, cp_steel. Thats seven maps in this update.

More information this week at http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy/

AWESOME DOOD :thumbsup:

Natascha and KGB, and who knows, maybe they will change the shotgun to a sandvich :p

besides, i wonder how the "deadly" taunt is going to work

I really don't like updates whaen they're first implemented. I love the game the way it was meant to be played but when my team is 8 heavies all farming achievements then the game tends to get a bit dull. Valve also has a habit of making the updates coincide with free weekends which in theory is a good idea but it doesn't really give potential players a good idea of what the game is about. I'll be happy about the update a week after it's been implemented.

I'm wondering that too, perhaps when heavy makes the gun shape with his hand, he pokes the other player so hard they die?

@Mulholland: Yeah, you can stop being Captain Obvious now. I'm getting tired of hearing people say that over and over again (although I do agree). I'm seeing this as an oppurtunity to practice sniper, spy and maybe some medic.

I'm not . .. .. .. .. .ing about the game(I love the game) but about peoples reactions to the updates. I just find the game gets really boring for a time that's it that's all.

I personally think all the modding . .. .. .. .. .. .. .. . ruined this game meself.

I personally think all the modding . .. .. .. .. .. .. .. . ruined this game meself.

How ?

medic with blautsauger > pyro with flamethrower

:crazyeye:

medic with blautsauger > pyro with flamethrower

:crazyeye:

I'm sorry I'm such an offensive medic that you got that idea. :mischief:

How ?

A lot of the servers when I quit playing had class caps in place because people couldn't handle actually having to evolve with the battlefield, so instead, they just capped. Killed it for me, been to long to care to go back now.

A lot of the servers when I quit playing had class caps in place because people couldn't handle actually having to evolve with the battlefield, so instead, they just capped. Killed it for me, been to long to care to go back now.

That problem can be fixed just by changing what server your on. I agree that restricting classes is generally a bad idea, but on instant spawn, goldrush/dustbowl servers, not even a good uber or two will be able to get through 3 or 4 sentries especially if there is a couple of snipers, demos, soldiers or pyros for support.

That problem can be fixed just by changing what server your on. I agree that restricting classes is generally a bad idea, but on instant spawn, goldrush/dustbowl servers, not even a good uber or two will be able to get through 3 or 4 sentries especially if there is a couple of snipers, demos, soldiers or pyros for support.

The whole balance of the game was that there was always a way through.

The whole balance of the game was that there was always a way through.

So removing respawn times removed that balance.

And that was another reason I stopped playing, so why do I have to restate myself when the reason I quit playing was pretty clearly implied?

And that was another reason I stopped playing, so why do I have to restate myself when the reason I quit playing was pretty clearly implied?

Either your problem with the game was because of the servers you played on, or you aren't making yourself clear.

Can't wait to play 12v12 all heavy matches

Can't wait to play 12v12 all heavy matches

I managed to get a team of 8 to do a heavy rush on gravel pit today. We managed to cap out faster than the pyro rush we'd just done, then held the other team to 0 caps on defense. :D

Either your problem with the game was because of the servers you played on, or you aren't making yourself clear.

My problem was with unbalancing a game that was perfectly and fine tuned balanced in the first place. At the time I quit, majority of the servers had some kind of silly unbalancing mod in place that made the game lose its appeal for me, you could argue that there are plenty of servers, and while that may be true, I don't feel like getting destroyed on a server with a ping over one-hundred. And please don't suggest that I just "get better" or some fallacy like that, I obviously opted to just leave rather than adapt to all the undermining.

I just want brass knuckles. They can do whatever they want after that.

SANDVICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i!!!!!!!!

MUST EAT LEETLE SANDVICH!

I love the support this game is getting from Valve, it's completely excellent.

Increased The Kritzkrieg's uber-charge rate bonus from 10% to 25%
Great news

You mean it might actually be useful now? :eek:

Damn stupid boxing gloves. I wanted brass knuckles. :(

WAS JUST PLAYING WITH pHILIPPE (Sacrilege) on Steel. I have a feeling when this map becomes a little more well known it will be excellent. Still haven't played the new environment or DM but am rally lookng forward to it. Phil also gave me a few needed tips on hot keying and busting out a weapon in clutch.

Seems to be a lot of chaps out there with miniguns. Fantastic times for a demoman :D

Is the update out as of yet? I'm away and can't check steam or anything.

BTW: SANDVICH = Greatest idea evar.

Yes, and I am officially the worst heavy ever :(

Damn good thing I'm on vacation. I can let some of the heavy craze tide over before I pick the game up again.

I was playing an arena game and one of my team mates was sitting up in the shadowy ramp in granary eating a sandvich. I crouched and pushed him off the egde in front of an enemy pyro :p

Spy heaven begins.

I just got 2nd highest score on my team on tc_hydro as sniper, spy and then medic. I rarely get more than half way up the score board on that server.

I havn't played heavy yet but the sound Natascha makes when firing is freaking SEXY.

Arena: lumberyard keeps making my game crash :(

I already unlocked natascha after a one-nighter. :D Natascha sounds great, like a minigun is ought to sound.

I spent my night on an achievement server to unlock everything. I don't equip the Kiling Gloves of Boxing solely because I love the POW taunt, which has surprisingly long range.

Spy heaven begins.
Spy's a heavy!!! Oh . .. .. .. ....


And in response to lumberyard crashing, it crashed once for me as welll.

Arena maps suck. It's like Sudden Death except you don't even get to play if you lose
Badwater is fun. Not sure about Steel, my team never gets past capture point B

Arena: lumberyard keeps making my game crash :(
Arena maps make my user interface randomly disappear for no reason

So afaik everyone who has Team Fortress 2 recieved a single guest pass. I'll send mine out on saturday night or sunday. Apply now.

Send it out after the free weekend IMO.

The heavy isn't really my favourite character so I probably won't get any of the new weapons for a while. Recently I've been playing a lot as the pyro on the fort map

I LOVE SANDVICH!!! I don't have it yet, but I've seen people with it. It almost makes up for no brass knuckles.

I also somewhat like arena mode for two reasons. One, the lumberyard map puts a foot into something outside of the wild west theme we've seen in all the other levels. Two, arena mode works even with only 6 or 8 people on the server.

So Foot approves of this update.

I might jump back in to TF2, but I'm scared......

... scared of what?

Its been like six months man, a lot can happen.

So you won't have any of the new stuff. The achievements are pretty easy to get and most of them will come just during regular play. I wouldn't worry about it.

Can't wait until the other updates are released.

Already unlocked the Sandvich and Natascha (after dealing with another guy that I'd Rasputin him if he Rasputined me). I tried to do the crit rocket thing to another guy so I could get mine, but apparently, the other people in the room are too hair-brained to understand the request "Please don't kill me, I'm not a bot." I ended up quitting due to frustration.

I wasn't even aware I'd been bludgeoned when i got the Rasputin achievemnt :p

I like it so far, the new heavy stuff is kinda wierd though.....

I wasn't even aware I'd been bludgeoned when i got the Rasputin achievemnt :p

Rasputin is actually very easy to get, you just have to make sure you survive long enough as defender until you get backstabbed by a spy :lol:

Does anyone know anything about the alternate uniforms like in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uONQ6s6pkcI)? Are they a variable thing like party mode?

http://www.fpsbanana.com/skins/41323

Ah, OK. I thought it was built into the update or something. I had never seen it before.

Whats a good TF2 clan that I could get into?

Whats a good TF2 clan that I could get into?

Most serious clans won't let you just join and require a tryout of some kind. Either that or if they see you playing on thier server and are impressed with you in some way. Some use some kind of a system where if you put an astersik next to your name or signal in some other way, it means you are looking to join a clan.

If you really want to be a part of a group, the best thing to do is to just get together your friends who have the game and start your own. That's exactly what my [CNS] is.

There are a couple of "clans" who frequent my facourite server, sBz, DS, ECS, they are small groups of friends or players who like to play together. Nothing hardcore, although ECS and sBz have their own servers. I'm in a community as opposed to a clan, CnB, which does require you to be a liked regular before putting on the tag.

I know but Im mostly looking to build a friends list and stuff and it just seems wierd adding random people and stuff.

In that case I recommend finding a community.

Whats CnBs website?

My new Radeon HD4850 just arrived and I must say that the game looks so much sexier on maxed out settings + 8xAA 16xAF than it did on medium settings in DirectX 8 mode

BTW does anyone know what range does Heavy's instakill taunt have?

I'm not too sure, but I have noticed it's longer than I expected it to be.

Its literally touching last time I checked......

I killed someone who was a couple of feet away with it.

BTW does anyone know what range does Heavy's instakill taunt have?

According to this video, pretty damn far.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-SLe8lg9G0c

Just bumping to say I finally got the Orange Box, and TF2 rocks!

One Of Us One Of Us!

Wingo GoodGame! :D

Take care of the steam group stuff if you haven't already and get in on the next TF2 Day!

Just bumping to say I finally got the Orange Box, and TF2 rocks!

put up your steam name, so I can add you. :)

Cheers mate, welcome to the club.
I hope for you that you play better than me.

Cheers mate, welcome to the club.
I hope for you that you play better than me.
Or me. Seriously, pyro-spamming is not the way to go.

Or me. Seriously, pyro-spamming is not the way to go.

It is sometimes. Especially if you can get behind a nice big group of enemies and burn them all down. :mwaha:

so, when will the next update going to be?

so, when will the next update going to be?

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=1872

By the name of the title, I'm thinking its either Soldier or Engineer

I think for sure engineer. Besides, they went support class, offense, then defense. They'll probably continue the same order.

No idea, sounds like they have been smoking a bit too much weed while watching Predator and Road House.

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=1889

(Funny sound clips at bottom)

put up your steam name, so I can add you. :)

bootygame77

bootygame77

I totally did not expect that. :lol:

Also, we need your current nickname in order to find you.

Or you could just find me or philippe.

TheInedibleStuporMan

Equally striking. :lol:

I see you play Insurgency too! Nice. :goodjob:

It's going to be a while before I start playing Steam Games while my new laptop is in repairs while I am stuck on my old laptop :(.

I used to play Insurgency, but I removed it due to low hard rive space. I will reinstall it, now I have 600~ GB of free space. :D

I have insurgency but I havn't played it yet.

Insurgency is great if you like realistic shooters. The only thing lame about it is that the weapon selection is a bit weak for the USMC (especially engineers) and some slopes are unrealistically unclimbable. Only thing better would be if the awesome game models of the M1 and humvees could actually operate.

I only use the Insurgency Mod for it's models in Garry's Mod :p.

insurgency? I love using the sniper rifle in that game, but then again, I suck with every other gun in that game. :lol:

insurgency? I love using the sniper rifle in that game, but then again, I suck with every other gun in that game. :lol:

That's realistic for anyone who is a newbie at firearms, they can't aim unless they have a scope. :p

I'm okay, but I prefer the good old assault rifle.

That's realistic for anyone who is a newbie at firearms, they can't aim unless they have a scope. :p

I'm okay, but I prefer the good old assault rifle.
Or like the trill of the hunt with a sniper rifle. It's like dear hunting ;).

Or like the trill of the hunt with a sniper rifle. It's like dear hunting ;).

Except they shoot back and sometimes are more intelligent than deer.

sometimes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4dfaylxz1A

:D

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b357/PrinceScamp/TF2/Pyro_icon203.jpg

Came across this video and had to share it. It's a ten minute long last stand on the final point of Goldrush, set to some over-the-top action movie style music from COD4, and it's completely epic:

http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/12/07/epic-gold-rush-last-stand/

Make sure you watch the last minute or so, the climax is the best part. :D

Came across this video and had to share it. It's a ten minute long last stand on the final point of Goldrush, set to some over-the-top action movie style music from COD4, and it's completely epic:

http://www.ubercharged.net/2008/12/07/epic-gold-rush-last-stand/

Make sure you watch the last minute or so, the climax is the best part. :D

That was an very well done video and have to admit that that was a pretty epic save at the end. I'm always amazed at what people can throw together with recording tools and source TV. :goodjob:

Awesome vid. Some very good skill all around, and pretty slick editing.
Thanks for the link.

In case you missed it the Scout update is coming next week.

You can check out the update with its new Scout weapons, achievements, and maps here (http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/)

Bonk

So now the scout is going to be more hyper with an energy drink. I thought he was already peppy enough.

Get practice killing scouts now before the rush. Because the only good scout is a dead scout. Unless it's Simon and he's on your team. :p

I've been practicing sniper for the last two weeks to be able to blow those critters out of the air.

They'll still burn. Mwahahahaha.

Anybody else think the scattergun looks a little different on the energy drink page?

I look forward to culling scouts with Natascha.

Don't care much about the two maps, junction is okay but boring for some reason, and I don't play Arena although that map looks neat.

They'll still burn. Mwahahahaha.

Oh so true :evil:

They added descriptions to all the achievements. Apparently there is a weapon called the Force-A-Nature that has a knockback. And apparently you can steal the Heavy's Sandvich. And the Scouts "Pyromancer" endurance style achievement is called Race for the Pennant, and requires you to run 25km.

Looks like you can also hit back baseballs with your bat. Possible push people with your bat too.

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/egypt.htm

I wonder if Fastlane is actually playable now

I came back from work hoping to see that today's unveiling would be a new game mode or weapon. I was quite disappointed.

I predict Monday for weapon, Tuesday for game mode.

I like this Egypt map. A bit of visual variety ftw.

I'd forgotton about Egypt, always like it :) We havn't played it in ages though. Or at least not since November/December.

I'd forgotton about Egypt, always like it :) We havn't played it in ages though. Or at least not since November/December.
This is in large part because it's a bit balanced to the defense. Played it twice yesterday I think because of people wondering about what the new map was like.

Huh, I had plenty of games of Egypt where Blue won.

Hey, look, scout update is here!

Downloading slowly but surely...

So spies can cycle what weapon they appear to be holding now, by hitting the "last disguise used" key. I wonder if it also cycles through unlocks.

Servers keep crashing.

And there are already idiots who have "earned" themselves all the unlocks. :shake:

I must admit that it is absolutely hilarious to see about half of the population of the server jumping around like morons to get the 1000 double jump achievement.

Go into achievements and set the double jump achievement to show on the hud, every tme you double jump you get a nice ping sound.

The Sniper update is coming

http://www.teamfortress.com/sniperupdate/

Schweet .

Hey, that will be fun to play around with. I can't wait to see a heavy pinned to a wall.

What the?! A Bow n Arrow!?! Meh, I perfer a crossbow personally :p.

As an improtant note, it only pins people who are dead or if it kills them.

"And even if you don't kill them, they'll carry around a certain arrow-shaped something as a living testament to your awesome archery skills and their frankly unawesome dodging skills."

"And even if you don't kill them, they'll carry around a certain arrow-shaped something as a living testament to your awesome archery skills and their frankly unawesome dodging skills."
I can already see the screenshots coming from that with an arrow smack dab in some strategic location to give it the lolz.

Shoot everyone in the butt. I hope there's an achievement for that

I love there description things they give.

NEW UPDATE

http://www.teamfortress.com/spyupdate/

SPY!

Sniper Update, Day 4
May 15, 2009 - TF2 Team


http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/sniper_lookbehindyou

Day 4 of the Sniper update brings us... hold on, that's not...

Holy hell. All those conspiracy theorists on the TF forum couldn't have been right all along, could they? When the Pyro hears about this she'll be inconsolable.

So the spy get's two new cloak watches, a pocket watch that allows you to leave a fake corpse and are cloaked for 8 seconds, and a new watch that recharges only when you are standing still.

==

Also on the TF2 blog they removed the she'll and replaced it with 'Pyro will'.

So we're getting to class updates in one? Wow. The "she" was probably put in by one of the other classes jealous of the pyro's manliness.

So the spy gets a fake fringe death like in the classic and Fortress Forever.

I love you Valve

Valve rocks so hard.

The shield thing still sucks though.

Valve is the best troll ever. if you want a good deal of laughs just check the steam forums

Double schweet.

Well played, Valve. :D

This is gonna be good. :yup:

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/technology_and_gaming/watch/v18477238BqYGPAZN

Leaked "Meet the Spy" video. Hilarious.

:D Wonderful

Meet the spy=awesome

*meh* A Spy can't take on a Scout plus a Heavy, in hand 2 hand after decloaking.

Friendly fire is also not on in normal gameplay either. Nor is there a door code.

It seems this leak has stopped the updates, stupid VALVe!

Friendly fire is also not on in normal gameplay either. Nor is there a door code.

It seems this leak has stopped the updates, stupid VALVe!

a)They don't update on weekends
b)They tend to update in the afternoon on weekdays
c)I (and House as well, and probably lots of others) am of the belief that Valve intentionally leaked it

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b)They tend to update in the afternoon on weekdays
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I knew that, I just forgot about the weekend, Weekends don't have much of a meaning to me anymore.

Friendly fire is also not on in normal gameplay either. Nor is there a door code.

It seems this leak has stopped the updates, stupid VALVe!

I was wondering if that part was a hint of future gameplay. That was actually funny, and explained why the 'good guys' were the blue team.


It was a good screenplay overal, but I would have given it more props if the spy was the Heavy. No one suspects a heavy! I always suspect scouts since they naturally have the potential and need to run to base for a heal.

Spies cannot run faster than their base speed, so scout spies are noticibly slower than scouts.

Spies cannot run faster than their base speed, so scout spies are noticibly slower than scouts.

Which is why its so easy to dominate Dr. House

This new revolver will make my spy sniping much less frustrating.

The new sniper weapon: Jarate
http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/

Pure moonshine????

Oh no....http://www.craphound.com/images/trucker_urine_jug_poster.jpg

Woo, Jarate!

The jar filled with pee :sick:.

Well that was certainly... creative.

I suddenly see people much more interested in targeting snipers...

Digital Pee or not, nobody wants it on them

Well that was certainly... creative.
It makes sense though. When you're camping on the same spot for 6 hours you just don't have time to go to the toilet. Kind of like those hardcore MMORPG players

It makes sense though. When you're camping on the same spot for 6 hours you just don't have time to go to the toilet. Kind of like those hardcore MMORPG players

...or truckers on a long stretch of highway with no rest stop for miles.

...or truckers on a long stretch of highway with no rest stop for miles.

Side of the road man!

Good news everyone, the spy n sniper update is out.

Side of the road man!

Not if you're under the clock :p.

Good news everyone, the spy n sniper update is out.



To that I say:

http://lolblog.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/gentlemen.jpg

Any idea how large the patch is? It seemed to take quite a while to download at like 750 K/s. I paused the download because I'm soon over my download cap for the month... ugh.

How do you honestly fill up 20 gigs that quickly? Do you like download a ton of porn or is your comptuer malwared and sending out spam or something?

The update was slow for me too, but I assume that's because everyone was downloading it at once.

How do you honestly fill up 20 gigs that quickly? Do you like download a ton of porn or is your comptuer malwared and sending out spam or something?

The update was slow for me too, but I assume that's because everyone was downloading it at once.

Downloading only one game can be like 5-10 gigs. Spending an evening watching videos on YouTube or trailers of random stuff can quickly get you up to 1 gig for that one day. Add to this the fact that we have 2 computers on the internet and my girlfriend likes to download episodes of TV shows once in a while and you have a situation where 20 gigs is good only for like 2 weeks. I'm probably going to upgrade my internet when my contract renews... But I'll have to pay like 60-70$ per month to have something respectable like 60 gigs. Yep. I know you have that much for like 40 or some crap, but what can we do. Just get r*ped more and more.

It took me about 15 minutes to download it.

Yeah I don't care about the time it takes, I was more interested in actual file size. I find that Steam is rather unclear about this all the time. It tells you how many megs a game will take up on your hard drive but doesn't tell you the size of the download (no, they're not really equal). And for patches, at least, I don't see any obvious line anywhere about the number of megs they require me to download. I think they should really make this information obvious.

Everybodies playing spy. Im in pyro heaven rite now.

Well this is retarded, all unlockable items are now acquired compeltely at random and for absolutely no reason with no corresponding circumstances at all. You can also have multiple items in your inventory two, i got the sandman, which I had already actually EARNED without cheating on any of the achievements weeks ago.

Worst unlockable weapons system...

...ever.

I got the ubersaw which I already have and the axestinguisher which I also already have! WTG valve. At least take into account for thoes already who have it!

Im gonna take my rage out on a couple of zombies in L4D.

I hope that they will be unlockable via achievements in a week or two.

I love the new unlockable system, no more grinding for me! :D

I've gotten 3 additional sandviches so far.

I've gotten the Huntsman. You all suck. :D

hows it work?

Apparently at random.

I've gotten 3 additional sandviches so far.

Hungry, much?

So we get random upgrades by license serial number? No earning or choosing them again? If yes, sounds lame (as in CCG lame).

I don't even want to . .. .. .. .ing paly TF2 anymore, whenever you get an unlockable it immediately pops open the screen gonig "Congratu. .. .. .. .alations you've unlocked the same . .. .. .. . you worked hard for months ago".

Meh, I didn't really feel like I was working much for these achievements. I think the achievements should just be there for fun, and possibly unlock cosmetic things or I don't know what. I'm not a huge fan of achievements being tied to gameplay effects.

Neither do I, but the new system is a thousand times worse.

So far I have:
Jarate
Cloak and Dagger
Ambassador
5 Force-a-Natures

Recently, I have gotten the following (excludes the ones that I gotten though the old way):

3 Ubersaws
2 Razorbacks
1 Hat (Soldier's)
1 Axestinguisher

It gave me the Ambassador, the Backburner and the Sandman.

I wasn't the greatest fan of the achievement based unlocks, but this system actually seems worse. Apparently you can get items by sitting in spectator mode. :crazyeye:

I would vastly prefer if Valve made the following changes:

1. Weapons are unlockable only via playing the class, either through kills, time, healing, etc.
2. Achievements are left by themselves as a sort of "Gamerscore", much like Xbox Live in the sense that they're simply there to show your skills.
3. Get rid of the atrocious sin of unlocking multiples of each weapon.

I think the weapons should be unlockable via a very easy 'achievement', like the backburner, kill someone as a pyro from behind with your regular flamethrower. The ambassador, kill someone at a long distance with the regular pistol. Kritzkrieg, have someone you uber fire a critical shot.

or even better, since they want to make it easier for people to get them, just GIVE EVERYONE THE WEAPON.

Apparently VALVe is giving us multiple items because they will implement item trading.

Whoopdee . .. .. .. .ing doo.

I think the weapons should be unlockable via a very easy 'achievement', like the backburner, kill someone as a pyro from behind with your regular flamethrower. The ambassador, kill someone at a long distance with the regular pistol. Kritzkrieg, have someone you uber fire a critical shot.

or even better, since they want to make it easier for people to get them, just GIVE EVERYONE THE WEAPON.

Apparently VALVe is giving us multiple items because they will implement item trading.

Whoopdee . .. .. .. .ing doo.

Yeah, pretty much this... As for your examples of easy things to do, at least maybe do it 10 times. Kill 10 people from behind and you got the backburner. There. Basically, if you play as a pyro for a couple of hours you'll have it.

Unlocking the weapons based on class playtime or a specific achievement are great ideas! I wish they had done this instead of this meaningless gathering of equipment. I felt accomplished by getting the unlockables I got before the current update.

I got a huntsman after about an hour. Some people were saying that it took them up to 12 hours to get their first freebie. I also saw a scout running around with no hat on! That took me by surprise.

I actually kind of don't mind this new system. Yes it's cheap, but then again, I'm cheap, and I hated having to get achievements to get stuff.