I have some questions about the way Vassals behave. Thank you for helping me out.


1.- UN victory resolution. If the master is one of the 2 candidates, will they always vote for their master? Or will attitudes be the key, just as if they were not master and vassal?

2.- Same question but for AP victory resolution.

3.- Imagine I am the pop leader and I gift back a city (with the UN builting inside) to my vassal. Will we compite for the victory? Can a vassal win a Diplo victory?

4.- Same question but for AP victory resolution.

1 & 2: vassals have to always vote for you unless they are able to vote for themselves. attitude doesn't seem to affect this as newly conquered furious vassals have voted for me in the past
3 & 4: yes, the vassal will now be your opponent and could with enough votes be the winner.

Thank you, bestje!

you're welcome, just returning the favour really

Bit of a noobish question but what do you need to be eligable for a Diplomatic Victory? I mean if you don't build the UN.

Also for a Religous Victory its only the same religion as the person who built it right?

Sax.

you need to have the highest population.
the population on the victory menu doesn't always accurately reflect this, its only your population. The population of vassals doesn't count towards yours in this case

for religious victory to be eligible you have to either own the AP or be the person with the most population in cities with the AP religion. You also have to have the AP religion as your state religion if you don't own the AP

I think there are more conditions you need to meet for AP diplomatic win.

I think you need to spread your religion to at least one city in every other CIVs empire. I think there may be more conditions.

My last game i had 697 votes for AP. This was doubled as i used the AP religion. I only ever got to give a city back to their rightful owners.

Not sure all the exact conditions myself.

Rules for AP Diplomatic Victory:

1. AP religion must be present in at least one city for every player.

2. A single player must NOT have so many votes that he is assured of victory even if the rest of the world votes no. (Same rule applies to the UN)

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Basicially if you've achieved condition #1 but have a problem with #2 then you either need to spread your religion to other players to reduce the percent of the vote you control or else if you have a foreign landmass with 2+ cities, set them free. The colonies you grant independence to are treated as voluntery vasals and something like +9 or +10 relations so they'll almost assurely vote for you.

Can you still pass resolutions if you have the required number of votes yourself?

Say a resolution requires 800 votes out of 1800 to pass--and you have 1100?

Can you still pass resolutions if you have the required number of votes yourself?

Say a resolution requires 800 votes out of 1800 to pass--and you have 1100?

Yes, you can. The only exception is the Victory resolution.

If you capture the AP from a rival civ, but currently are in free religion, and that rival civ is destroyed (i.e. no longer exists) but was the former AP resident, 2 questions:

1. Who gets to be AP resident (if the vote is able to come up at all)?
2. Is it possible to win AP victory WITHOUT switching to the AP religion (since free religion means all religions are state religions)?

1. unless the AP itself is destroyed, there is a new vote
2. yes but you have to own the AP

2. Is it possible to win AP victory WITHOUT switching to the AP religion (since free religion means all religions are state religions)?

Yes, you can. It has nothing to do with FR meaning all religions: you can declare another state religion and yet, as the AP holder, you will be eligible.

Yes, you can. It has nothing to do with FR meaning all religions: you can declare another state religion and yet, as the AP holder, you will be eligible.

But you won't be able to call on the option for AP diplo victory UNLESS you own are the AP resident, and I've never seen another AP residency vote after I capture and destroy another civ that owns it (at least not in RFC).

I've never seen another AP residency vote after I capture and destroy another civ that owns it (at least not in RFC).

1. unless the AP itself is destroyed, there is a new vote



:confused:

For example, see our current succession game:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=6743599&postcount=1

We (Mongolia) have captured Laibach (the Christian AP city) after Germany (the former AP resident) collapsed. (Collapsed in RFC means that your cities become independent, and you cannot interact with these independents other than invade them). We're in free religion. The AP residency has not been voted on again, and no resolutions have come by (since Germany can't call them up).

This is important because we're trying to win by the AP vote, and I think we may have to convert to Christianity first, win the AP residency AND then be able to call up the diplo win option.

i'm not sure the RFC mod works the same as the normal game.
its not possible for a country to just collapse in bts so it may be something to do with that, i haven't played very much with RFC so I can't really say for sure how it works.

i'm fairly sure i'm right in terms of classic bts