I'm sorry this is really late but i just havent had the time. I will work on the map tonight and hope to get alot done

Cool, when you've done some work on it, upload it here.

What size map are you considering, "Huge" or something on par with Genghis Kai's "Giant Earth Map?"

I read the list of planned civs, and it occurs to me that you will need a really big map.

What if the map is made on the Rhye's principale of different tile productivity in different areas? it will help make the Europe competitive without making a very big map which will undoubtfully lead to long turns. It'll also help to avoid hard to manage overgrown states like Russia, US and Canada.

I also agree it should be made on Rhye's map because if we make it on Genghis Kai's, the turns will take too long.

I can upload rhye's map and take away the marshes.

That's not really necessary: there's an 18 civ Huge Earthmap by Rhye, which works w/patch 3.17 (no marshes). Also, I've been asked by NikNaks to do a 2008 scenario version and thought of using that map. (It's basically the same as the Amra 18 civs BtS map, which was originally done by Amra for Warlords.)

Any suggestions?:confused:

Sure, go for it! At the moment, we have some of the civs added and I've gotten rid of all the unnecessary units.

Yes, well... there are 18 civs in. Could you tell me what civs you need in - or shall I just edit it myself? (You can add me as Map Editor on your team list if you like.) I reckon you'll be using all modern units (of which there are already plenty available and still more being poured out).

Without any further suggestions I'll be posting a 0.1 version when it's done (but I can add in any requests you guys may have).;)

Try the "Civs Discussion" thread; there's a list there. And yes, tons of modern units, but you can just use generic marines, modern armor etc. for now.

OK, thx! Will do. More news later.;);)

Excellent! :D

so the map is under construction?

Yes it is. We have two maps underway now, one from JEELEN and another from Munch.

I've copied this from post #1 in the Civs thread (which, BTW, might be outdated as it hasn't been edited since first posted).

Here is a list of all the civilizations planned to be included. They are up for comment and discussion.

United States of America - controls Hawaii, Alaska, Puerto Rico, Panama, Diego Garcia (Indian ocean), Pacific Islands (Midway, Guam, Marshal Islands, Samoa, etc), Iraq, Afghanistan.
Canada
Mexico
China
North Korea
Russia
Kazakhstan
Israel
Palestine (gaza strip + west bank).
Egypt
Iran - controls Syria.
South Korea
Nigeria
Pakistan
India
Venezuela - controls Cuba, Bolivia, Ecuador, Nicaragua, Paraguay.
Colombia
Brazil
Argentina
Myanmar
Japan
Australia
Philippines
Republic of Indonesia
Saudi Arabia
Sudan
South Africa
Taiwan
European Union - Euro nations.
Permanent Neutrality - Switzerland (capital), Costa Rica, Liechtenstein Turkmenistan.
NATO (non-EU) - UK (capital)*, Turkey, Iceland, Norway, Croatia, Albania.
Independent African States - Angola (capital), Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Zimbabwe, Kenya.
African Union- all African countries that don't fall in to our "independent" or "barbarian" groups.
Failed States - Somalia, Eritrea, East Timor, Equatorial Guinea. There should also be strong hostile barbarian rebel cities in Iraq, Afghanistan, and western Sudan. Weaker barbarian groups elsewhere, maybe without cities, including in Columbia, Chechnya (Russia), Mexico, Algeria, Basque (EU) and Tibet (China).
Independent Nations - Papua New Guinea, Brunei, Singapore, Dominican republic, Peru, Chile, Vietnam

*The UK has been selected as a non-EU NATO country because of its alignment in international politics and its geographical location.

Now there's 35 civs on the list, so for an 18 civ map some have to be lumped together, included in the Independent Nations and/or represent as barbs. (I may be able to extend civs present beyond 18, but can't promise it.) Because of mapsize (Huge) some may also just be to small to be individually represented (Liechtenstein, Monaco, Dom. Rep. + Haïti on 1 isle tile, etc).

Also, what map is Munch working on? (Haven't found any reference to it.):confused:

I've downloaded Carter's 18/24/36 map (again) to see if it's usable with 3.17. If so the 36 civs map would be best, I reckon.

I should have mentioned that we already have a DLL, but use that for testing, by all means.

Where's the DLL?:confused: (I'm sure I need it, as Carter's maps are Cartermod- linked, and I know about map editing, but am a total moron on modding anything. I've got another 34 civ map listed in my Public Maps folder, but can't tell what mod it's linked to - it doesn't show up on the in-game scenario/map list.)

BTW, is the civ list still up to date?

Still don't know about IM (PM not fast enough?); I generally check CFC several times daily, just to keep updated.

Right, the DLL is stored on the SVN. I can give you a link to that directly.

The list is up to date so much as everything is right except Europe, which is still under discussion, although assume that there will be more civs rather than less (say, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Scandinavia (one civ), Eastern Europe (one civ) and a couple of others to fill the gaps).

IM just seems to be quicker to me. Even this post is 3 minutes after yours, not instant.

Right, the DLL is stored on the SVN. I can give you a link to that directly.

That'd be great. (I found the SVN, but the Tortoise linked me to several downloadable files, not telling what I needed to DL really.)

Alright, where do I get the IM? (You could also just type faster.):mischief:

Post got cut off? Anyway, here's the link (http://world2008mod.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/world2008mod/Assets/CvGameCoreDLL.dll).

No, just looking for the Tortoise - and thx!;)

Hey! My typing is perfectly fast :p

Do you have a Google account of any kind? Hotmail? Yahoo? Anything like that has an appropriate IM to go along with it.

What's the file choice for Tortoise? If in doubt, go for the latest 32-bit Windows installer.

Errr... OK, I've got the DLL in a 2008 mod folder, but there's no INI or anything... So, now what?:confused:

What other files do you normally have?

Missed a post...

Hey! My typing is perfectly fast :p

Yeah, but can you type lefthanded while eating dessert?:mischief:

Do you have a Google account of any kind? Hotmail? Yahoo? Anything like that has an appropriate IM to go along with it.

What's the file choice for Tortoise? If in doubt, go for the latest 32-bit Windows installer.

I've enabled e-mail messaging.

Thx again, BTW. (Will probably miss another post while visiting the Tortoise...)

Looks like you missed a post again...

I've added you on Google Talk. I'd remove your email from your post before it gets picked up by spam bots. :borg:

Google Talk?:confused: Alright (removed the link).

You can type fast but you didn't answer my questions. (Waiting for the Tortoise DL...):crazyeye:

Do I need all that stuff? (Just wondering, as I just want to start working on a map, y'know.):mischief:

Was still waiting for Düsseldorf to DL, so I switched to Amsterdam -> instant DL! (Weird.) Will be installing now, so you can post some more.:mischief:

PS: I've also gone undercover. ("Whooa, I'm invisible!")

Er, right. What exactly have you enabled on Google? You might need to actually log-in to chat, but I'm not sure.

Sorry,was off-line for awhile installing and loading the mod. Didn't get far, 'cause of load errors. Anyway, will be off-line again til tomorrow probably due to RL obligations.;)

Seeing as Bastian-Bux has been kind enough to create a clean GEM-map, all we need now is a bugfree World 2008 mod version. (Last time I tried, I couldn't get it to load).

Really? What errors do you get?

Several, I think they were LH-related. Want me to try again or can I load it with no LHs? :confused:

Can you post the errors?

When loading world2008mod I get this error:

Assert failed
File: \CvXMLLoadUtilitySet.ccp
Line: 1545
Expression: bSuccess
Message:

When trying to load various maps (Bastian Bux's clean GEM map, Amra 18 civs BtS, Carter32civs) various XML error messages appear (referring mostly to UNITCLASS xml errors) and the game CTDs. With the GEM map this message appeared twice:

Assert failed
File: \CvGlobals.cpp
Line: 4861
Expression: szType
Message: null info type string

Ok, I'll look into those.

An example of how Rhye's huge Earth map could be used:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=189973&stc=1&d=1222681052

around 40 civs, looks pretty balanced (unrealistic "Neutral" countries needed only in Africa and South America

Every bigger civ has at least 2 decent cities (except Israel, which can have either 1 or 2 depending on whether Syria is extended one tile south or not)

(A B C are the smaller nations, which need to be solved some way)

Afghanistan is swallowed by Iran and Pakistan

Baltic states are stuck between St. Petersburg and Kaliningrad, as they'd be too small to be a decent "real" civ

Former Yugoslavia is divided between Romania, Greece and Italy (this could use some more work)

Poles can decide whether they want to be a part of Germany or Ukraine (sorry poles, but Poland would be too small, like the Baltic states)

Israel enlarged to make them a bit more competitive against the surrounding civs, no room for Palestine but the "close borders" penalty makes most surrounding civs realistically unfriendly to them

Laos, Thailand and Cambodia gobbled by Myanmar and Vietnam

all sounds good UN patriot