This just in - Fall from Heaven is all about... Cats!

I just came across this page (http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/6913/celtic.htm) of Celtic "Cat Names" and it's impressive how many FfH names are present.

Of course - the "Cat Names" are just from the some of the same Celtic Mythologies that FfH draws upon, but the page gives some details of those mythologies that may be of interest to some people (they were for me at least). There are a few in the "Nordic" section too.

I have to ask...were you searching for FFH names or trying to name a new cat? Some interesting reads in there, I've always been a fan of ancient mythology

I have to ask...were you searching for FFH names or trying to name a new cat? Some interesting reads in there, I've always been a fan of ancient mythology

Just looking for Celtic names. Decided on "Deirdra" (Sorrowful Wanderer) :mischief:


Actually, we may be getting a cat once we move however (which is roughly 2-3 weeks away) - I'm really quite tempted to name it Dagda ("Daggy" for short).

LUONNOTAR (loo-AHN-OH-tar; Female): Although her name sounds like it fell out of a 1950's science fiction movie, she was in all actuality the Daughter of Nature, also known as the Virgin Daughter of the Air.


If were getting a cat I'd go with that -_-

If were getting a cat I'd go with that -_-

I'd feel a bit daft stood on the back doorstep shouting "Luooey" though...

I'd feel a bit daft stood on the back doorstep shouting "Luooey" though...

My grandparents had a shih-tzu named Poopy. When it ran away, I had to drive around the neighborhood with my grandma yelling "Poooooooooopy" out the window of a Cadillac. Daft doesn't begin to describe that.

And I hope to one day have enough cats that I can name them all after FfH characters. I hope the designers realize that that is the greatest compliment I can give them.

well I prefer the great dane that was named Kitty. Now imagine calling here Kitty Kitty Kitty and everyone expects a small little fur ball and lumbering around the house a big ol 200 pound dog (40 pounds of that was slobber)...

My grandparents had a shih-tzu named Poopy. When it ran away, I had to drive around the neighborhood with my grandma yelling "Poooooooooopy" out the window of a Cadillac. Daft doesn't begin to describe that.

Geez LOL!

Naming a dog poopy sounds like a potty joke some 6 year old would do, how the hell did two adults come up with that kind of stupid name? lol..... it must have brought your grandparents some strange looks over the years.

no offense at you or your grandparents though, but I do find that really unbelieveable.

Anyways, back on topic, although Kael was using alot of celtic mythology references, there are stuff from other languages. There's several greek and latin words, and djinn has it's origns in middle eastern or north african mythology I think.

Kael once posted in a thread about his main influences. Jewish mythology is one of the more important ones he drew from. Most of the good civs derive their names from various angelic groups, many of the archangels have Jewish names, as do many of the cities, rituals, structures, and even some units, such as golems and leviathans.

Yeah, Jewish and Celtic mythology are the primary influences in FFH, with some Viking thrown in for good measure. Less Greek or Egyptian than you might expect to find.

Because that is just so well-used already. I'm thinking of naming a future dog Culpa. I'm sure he'll be getting up to enough mischief to deserve it.

Yeah, Jewish and Celtic mythology are the primary influences in FFH, with some Viking thrown in for good measure. Less Greek or Egyptian than you might expect to find.

There aren't any Egyptain references AFAIK, unless you count the great lighthouse as one which has always been based on the lighthouse at Alexandria and has been in the game since the beginning of the Civ series. I started the series with CivII, but I'm pretty sure it was in the first one.

Most of the Greek and Latin references are names with a Greek or Latin origin.

I remember seeing Kael say somewhere that he wanted to use something else besides Greek, Egyptain, and Norse references which are used all over the place. Also to give it a little more uniqueness by using less well known mythology.

Actually, one of the key sections of the Age of Ice/Age of Rebirth lore is stolen directly from Egyptian mythology, with a slightly different chain of events and different names.

Actually, one of the key sections of the Age of Ice/Age of Rebirth lore is stolen directly from Egyptian mythology, with a slightly different chain of events and different names.

Ah, that's the part where Mulcarn breaks up Sucellus into several pieces. I think.

Ah, that's the part where Mulcarn breaks up Sucellus into several pieces. I think.

Yeap, Sucellus is strongly associated with Osiris. Having been killed by an evil god and torn into pieces, being ressurected, and there is a symetry between Isis and Nantosuelta. Osiris was also significantly changed by his death and displayed both as a god of growth (what we call nature) and death.

There is also a correlation between Osiris and Jesus and on to Sucellus in our story. So there are a lot of parellels between them as well. Including the death, travel through the underworld and return to creation, bringing the power of life back into the world.

I've noticed that Mulcarn's name shows up as the FFH Mulcarn when googled. Is there any reason for his name or is it just a name you made up and like?

I've noticed that Mulcarn's name shows up as the FFH Mulcarn when googled. Is there any reason for his name or is it just a name you made up and like?

The first campaign was heavuly elemental themed. At that point I custom named all the gods (Kilmorph, Bhall, Mulcarn, Tali, Danalin). It wasnt until later that I expanded into a full mythology and decided to use celtic themed names.

Yeap, Sucellus is strongly associated with Osiris. Having been killed by an evil god and torn into pieces, being ressurected, and there is a symetry between Isis and Nantosuelta. Osiris was also significantly changed by his death and displayed both as a god of growth (what we call nature) and death.

There is also a correlation between Osiris and Jesus and on to Sucellus in our story. So there are a lot of parellels between them as well. Including the death, travel through the underworld and return to creation, bringing the power of life back into the world.

Incidently Sucellus was probably the most revered god in the D&D campaigns (as in the god the players were most likely to worship). So hes the one Im most familiar with worshiping at an individual level (though it doesnt make a very interesting religion at an empire level). Hes a god of rebirth and this is his age. Powerful healing didnt exist in the world prior to his return and his preists were able to make the blind see, make the deaf hear, and make the lame walk. In extreme situations they raised the dead.

In a world returning from destruction, where most people feel abandoned by the gods, a true priest of Sucellus gets noticed by everyone. The people flock to him, corrupt politcians fear his power, and demons want him to fall through corruption or death.

Sweet. I'm sensing necessary small events to reflect the importance of priests of Sucellus.

With suitably nasty options for evil civs, especially the Illians :nya:

Well, wouldn't priests of Sucellus fall under the domain of the Leaves religion? I know it's based on Nature, but Sucellus is the old god of Nature right, and Sucellus old archangel is now the Nature god right?

I think those two are forever allied.

Not to mention they were both key figures in bringing Mulcarn down, EVEN if Sucellus died, his death had a meaning. And the other one (cant for the love of him remember the name) made Kylorin Good and helped him and the Amurites on the path to destroy mulcarn right?

And now, in the age of rebirth, these two angels are probably the most important for Erebus recovery.

IIRC the fellowship being a new, rather uncoordinated religion worships several gods, the most common of which are Cernnunos, Sucellus & Amathaon.

The Priests of Sucellus are the Druids.

Sucellus, Amathaon, and (especially) Cernunnos are revered (but not exactly worshiped) by the Fellowship of the Leaves.

I'm not sure I'd say anyone "make Kyorlin good," but after Kyorlin had a change of heart he received guidance from Nantosuelta. Meanwhile, Cernunnos was living with and guiding the Ljosalfar.

Yeah well that was what I meant. :p