View Full Version : Can i still win this


holiday_hawk
Jun 14, 2008, 08:56 PM
I don't see a way i can still win, i don't think i can win the space race, conquest, domination, and culture are way out of the pic, and i nearly won diplo a few times, but now Peter is leading on the S.G. votes, he was only like 20 votes off winning last time. At first i saw i had about a 200 point lead on Peter so i thought i could just keep on pulling away till the end, but now Peter jumped into the lead out of no where i really don't know how he did it, and i'm not sure if victory is obtainable any more

I think it is on prince, its BTS, and earth 1000 A.D.

vanatteveldt
Jun 15, 2008, 04:13 AM
Screenshots?

bestje
Jun 15, 2008, 05:22 AM
sorry I can't open the save here, but 1000 AD is still very early so I think that at least space, military and score wins are still possible

are you more or less at tech parity, similar sizes to the AI, any chance of a few succesful wars against some weaker civs?

champ82
Jun 15, 2008, 08:46 AM
Holiday Hawk has 60+ turns left, it is 2000something.
It is on Chieftan difficulty.
He has the tech lead, is well liked by most other civs.
Peter borders him and is drastically more powerful.
Holiday Hawk, I might try to win this game and tell you more. For starters…
I think this game is winnable, if Peter doesn’t invade you. If I beat it I’ll tell you more.
…Things would be easier if you didn’t go SAM infantry crazy. Space Race is your best chance, I think, I didn’t examine diplomacy as an option. This means you want assembly plants and laboratories in many of your cities. Most of you cities don’t have this and it needs to be a priority. Which means your cities can’t produce mech infantry while producing these. You have so much money, if those SAM Infantry were regular infantry I could upgrade them to mech infantry and this would make Peter less scary.
More later.

Cleverbeans
Jun 15, 2008, 08:58 AM
sorry I can't open the save here, but 1000 AD is still very early

I believe he meant that the scenario is "Earth 1000AD". The save is at 2012AD and I think the position looks pretty bad. When I play the earth scenarios I try to control all of Europe and take out Russia so I can restrain China from getting to much land. Basically because you're territory is so small and you're a long way from space race I think you will have a lot of trouble getting to the victory conditions in time.

champ82
Jun 15, 2008, 09:30 AM
OK some other things…
…There was no reason to be in Hereditary Rule. I switched to Universal Suffrage, none of your cities became unhappy, and used all money to build forges/assembly plants/coal and hydro power plants.
…2 biggest mistakes are keeping one unit in border cities. But a bigger mistake than that is that most of your cities don’t have assembly plants. Production should always be a high priority.
…If Peter doesn’t invade, I think this is winnable by simply prioritizing all the production buildings, then laboratories, then the space ship parts. It wouldn’t be winnable on noble+, Peter would eat you, it wouldn’t even be a meal, it would be a snack. I’ve gone 4 turns in now.
More later.

holiday_hawk
Jun 15, 2008, 09:52 AM
He has the tech lead, is well liked by most other civs.
Peter borders him and is drastically more powerful.
Holiday Hawk, I might try to win this game and tell you more. For starters…
I think this game is winnable, if Peter doesn’t invade you. If I beat it I’ll tell you more.
…Things would be easier if you didn’t go SAM infantry crazy. Space Race is your best chance, I think, I didn’t examine diplomacy as an option. This means you want assembly plants and laboratories in many of your cities. Most of you cities don’t have this and it needs to be a priority. Which means your cities can’t produce mech infantry while producing these. You have so much money, if those SAM Infantry were regular infantry I could upgrade them to mech infantry and this would make Peter less scary.
More later.

The original plan was just to take out Saladin or at least vassalize him to get more votes for the U.N., since everyone likes me i thought with Saladin's votes i would have enough to win a diplo victory, i never planned on Peter getting that many votes, i couldn't believe it when i saw how evenly matched we were in votes. I didn't leave any troops at home because Ragnar was my only real threat and the Spaniards took him out a while ago, but i guess that was a mistake and won't do it next time. I went SAM and nuke crazy thinking i could just win by diplo, forgetting about production and man was that a mistake.

It is on Chieftain difficulty.
Wow i thought it was on Prince, i wanted to try to go up in difficultly its a good thing i was listing to music and not paying attention or i would have severely got my ass handed to me.