This is an add-on for Rhye's and Fall for BTS which adds Ethnically Diverse Units from the mangificient Varietas Delectat mod.

It's packed as a separate mod called "RFC VD", to avoid semi-modular installation hassle. No gameplay changes.

Link:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=9825

Screenshots:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=234062&d=1257959367

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=234064&d=1257959367

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=234063&d=1257959367

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=180757&stc=1&d=1214049117

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=180756&stc=1&d=1214049117

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=180758&stc=1&d=1214049117

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=234065&d=1257959402


And a last warning, since many people have problems with the annoying mannner of zip utilities to automatically create an extra folder when unzipping - the files go to Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets, NOT to Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets\RFC VD.

does it leave unit stats changed in RFC unaltered?

Yes, it does. The only changes are the graphics changes.

Can you confirm that it works with 3.17? Love the idea.

Can you confirm that it works with 3.17?

From my limited understanding, it should work. Don't know for sure.

Love the idea.

Thanks.

Downloading now, looks awesome Lone Wolf!

Thanks for this.

Installed and played over 200 turns as China and England with no problems in 3.17

Rhye has to add this to his next update for those who might miss this.

Rhye has to add this to his next update for those who might miss this.

Why? The add-on has a very large size, which may be unpleasant for people with slow Internet connections. And maybe somebody likes standard graphics better. There's nothing wrong with this being an addon. Althrough perhaps it deserves to be stickied, 'cause it adds a very nice touch. :)

I love this mod, thanks for this.

One little thing though, in both games I've played since I downloaded this the Expansion civic was set to Despotism by default. It might not have anything to do with the mod, but I've never had the problem before. I doubt it's a big deal, my government civic still works properly and I can still switch to another Expansion civic, but I thought I'd point it out.

in both games I've played since I downloaded this the Expansion civic was set to Despotism by default.

Do you mean Subjugation? That's how things should be. Or do you mean that Despotism appears in the Expansion column?

Do you mean Subjugation? That's how things should be. Or do you mean that Despotism appears in the Expansion column?

No, that's just it, instead of subjugation it's set to Despotism, even though that's a government civic.

Ah, I understand the issue now. Here's a fix, added to the OP.

Returned the default graphics for Samurai
Fixed the absence of Child in the Dutch Settler graphics
Fixed random city lists
Subjugation civic should display correctly on civic screen

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=180892&stc=1&d=1214150946

Unzip it to Your Civ4 directory\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets. If promted, select okay to overwrite.

I can't download from Filefront :( don't know why...

Can this be used with existing saves? Or only with new games. (Sounds like a silly question)

It's all graphics, it should be okay with existing saves (then again, it did affect the civics screen :lol: ).

By the way, I found another problem: the button for the German heavy footman is using the archer icon. It could be the same with other civilizations, I haven't checked.

I'm really loving this add-on, keep up the good work. :)

By the way, I found another problem: the button for the German heavy footman is using the archer icon.

That's Varietas Delectat issue. I'll fix it.

BTW, what shall I do with Ethnically Diverse Cannons? Some of then, like the German one, are obviously meant to come in one timeframe with Riflemen, not Musketmen. And some Ethnically Diverse Musketmen are from a bit later timeframe then default Musketman.

A fix for Byzantines building settlers. Also slightly changed scales of some units.

Includes the previous fix.

Unzip it to Your Civ4 directory\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets. If promted, select okay to overwrite.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=181264&stc=1&d=1214507720

added to the wiki

great work LW :goodjob:

Love using the mod. Noticed a few things though. While playing the Japanese, the icon for the galley and the caravel are the same. They are called differently, but look the same with the same "button."

Also, while playing a game as Carthage earlier, I noticed that the Maceman holds a sword (but looks different than a swordsman which is cool) but shares the icon with the swordsman.

Not sure if this was intended.

the contrary for Persians: swordsman with maceman icon ^^

With the Germans the Maceman has an Archer icon.

Small issues I know, but we strive for perfection :)

hehe,

however I think Varietas Delectat and the original EDU brought the game to a whole new level. These guys should really be hired for Civ5.

Bump.

It should work in RFC Rand too.

I'll try it and report.

Im downloading ATM, just curious though, does it make the turns longer? like since its a MOD MOD adding in unit graphics, does it make the game have say longer waits in between turns?

Well, I dunno. Probably, they are slightly longer. But when you want to disable the mod, just place the ModularLoading switch in the *.ini file back to 0.

it works like a charm in RAND too. And no, graphics additions don't add to processing time in the interturns, that's dependent from CPU and RAM. At worse, the mod could slow the interface (scrolling, zooming, etc).

I love it! Always gonna use it now:)..need more Mods for Mods !

every civs units appears different for example..the english got their symbol on armour, as do the french..i love it!..its not just like saying euros get this look asians get that look..each nation has own look..or at least so far they seem to

Hah. No more will the Mongols look exactly like the Japanese and the Chinese?

I have to download this and try it out for myself. I have no experience on modular mods, though.:wallbash:

Great work! Now my troops will have uniforms they can be proud of as they march across the globe...

This is a great idea. I've only seen screenshots though cause I have no idea how to add modcomps.
But may I suggest the same for buildings too. Like the American palace to look like the White House.
I don't have any other ideas right now, but I hope you get the point.

I have no idea how to add modcomps.

The instructions are in the OP.

The instructions are in the OP.

I saw... but that is gibberish to me. I can't find anyplace to put it under. I see mods, but that file is blank. I'll take a screenshot in the mourning, I'm exhausted now, so maybe you can see what I can do.
Thanks

EDIT:
I've been going to load screen for this. Is there any other place to go. I mean, I have no idea where the directory is. I thought it was the load screen.

Hi, does this also work with Rhye's and Fall MP ? Of course all players would have it installed, not just me.
As it is only graphics, it should work, am I right ?

Maybe .

That's a half 'yes'. Ok, I will try ;-)

Your mod is older than the varietas delectat for vanilla version.
Will there be an update for the RFC mod?

Is it? If it is, then there will be one soon.

Hi, does this also work with Rhye's and Fall MP ? Of course all players would have it installed, not just me.
As it is only graphics, it should work, am I right ?

actually since it's only graphics you don't need other players to install it.

actually since it's only graphics you don't need other players to install it.

There can still be some issues, I think... But it is savegame-compatible.

Well, me and my mate both installed it and it worked in Multiplayer. :goodjob:
Yeah, since it's only graphics I also think it should even work if only one person has it.

towns are really strang in this mod :sad: , by example russian have aztecs temples, a lot of buildings are black, why do not put towns of the last version of rhnic citystyle?

Ah, yeah, some nations are pretty eclectic. I think that's kinda cool, personally. And the buildings shouldn't be black, BTW.

Lonewolf, the last version of the main VD has a new, russian sopecific, city style. You should know it ;)

so...when the update will arrive?

Next week, probably.

what will be the changes excatly? will the update include the last version of ethnic citystyle?

Uploading now. Yes, there will be ethnic citystyles.

Instructions concerning them:

The CityLSystem XML file, which is responsible for the city styles, appears to have no effect when being modular. So you should place it to YourCiv4Directory\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets\XML\Buildings folder. But there already is an original Civ4CityLSystem.xml file. I recommend that you rename the original first, to prevent overwriting.

Done .

Super! How can i update my version?

Just download the file from the link on the first post, it is updated.

HEEELP when i load a game or when is stay too long on worl editor(i didn't try new game) a message say me ERROR bad emplacement or something like that! And return to windows!!!!!

"load a game" as in "Load a saved game"?

Try starting a new RFC game. Does you problem persist?

it works! only the world editor still return windows when i stay too much time on it, it's a very good mod! Soryy for the bad english, i'm french!

Hm, I installed the new version over the old one, deleted the old .fpk files though. I have no problems loading my old save games, and the World Builder works fine too.

Hi there,

and thank you very much for your work! It makes the game much more enjoyable for me. I tried modding the graphics myself, but didn't get too far. So, again, this update is very much appreciated.

Cheers

Several times, the game has crashed while trying to load images, each time with the Greeks. I'll get the specific error message next time it happens. Nonetheless, I'm still very much enjoying all the great new unit images :-)

I'm having no trouble with the modcomp, really awesome work Lone Wolf! :goodjob: It makes the mod much more enjoyable. Declaring war against some other Civ is no longer a matter of land-grabbing, this modcomp also brings the ethnical factor into play. It's much more fun playing the Prussian/French war of the 1870s if your opponent's units aren't exact replications of your own. :)

Whenever I try and load a saved game, I am now getting a "memory allocation error" that comes up when the graphics load. Also, sometimes the entire world turns brown :eek:...any ideas?

Were you playing as greece? Someone else mentioned the error when playing the greeks, and I updated the version and continued playing my saved greek game, and I get the error maybe 30% of the time I load my game.

It might be a coincidence though, and have nothing to do with the greek civ. Maybe I put extra files that didn't need to be there or something. Anyone else have trouble?

whenever I try and load a save after playing for time, I get the memory allocation error. I don't get the error when I start the game, though. I also crash when I win a game :'(

And, ya, I was playing Greeks, though I've crashed with Ethiopia also.

Try loading the save, but replacing the only non-modular XML file I mentoined with the original CityLSystem XML file.

It appears that I was dense enough to not backup the original cityLsystem, so here's to hoping that the fatal errors can be fixed :beer:

Well, it does work perfectly for me. Then again, I'm playing Spanish now.

Can you confirm if you can load a game or start a new one while you already have a saved game running?

Both of these things causes the fatal error for me.

Well, I do all that without any problems.

I'm using this patch, and I think it's a great enhancement - thanks!

But I've noticed that in the city build queue, the icon for Swordsman is now showing the Maceman icon instead? Mousing over the icon, it comes up as Swordsman, but it definitely looks like a Maceman in the mini-picture. I noticed this yesterday when I was playing as Persia.

Is this a known bug with the varietas delectat patch for RFC?

It seems to be the choice of the creators of VD.

I'm using this patch, and I think it's a great enhancement - thanks!

But I've noticed that in the city build queue, the icon for Swordsman is now showing the Maceman icon instead? Mousing over the icon, it comes up as Swordsman, but it definitely looks like a Maceman in the mini-picture. I noticed this yesterday when I was playing as Persia.

Is this a known bug with the varietas delectat patch for RFC?

England has the Redcoat portrait for both Musketman and Redcoat. Maybe it's the same case here?

3. (Concerning the update)
The CityLSystem XML file, which is responsible for the city styles, appears to have no effect when being modular. So you should place it to YourCiv4Directory\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets\XML\Buildings folder. But there already is an original Civ4CityLSystem.xml file. I recommend that you rename the original first, to prevent overwriting.

Thanks for adding that one to the opening post.

EDIT:
I don't want to triple post but is it only me who thinks the two Indias have been mixed up? I don't think any civilization around the Indus Valley had teepees or strawhuts in their cities. :p

England has the Redcoat portrait for both Musketman and Redcoat. Maybe it's the same case here?

In VD, English Musketman has the original Redcoat animation, while English Redcoat looks like a British solider from the latter half of 19th century, just before the introduction of khaki uniforms.

The portraits, through. Well, I can look into it... Althrough I dunno, if it's worth it.

In VD, English Musketman has the original Redcoat animation, while English Redcoat looks like a British solider from the latter half of 19th century, just before the introduction of khaki uniforms.

The portraits, through. Well, I can look into it... Althrough I dunno, if it's worth it.

:D Sorry, this is right. Hadn't played until the introduction of actual Redcoats yesterday, now I know better.
So, is it done on purpose that sometimes Galleons and Caravels share the same portrait? While I think this is refreshing change, it's a little confusing sometimes.

Oh yeah, any idea how to fix the Indian ethnic city-style problem? Currently they're using the city-style of Columbus' Indians, meaning Native Americans. Not the one they should be using. But I'm guessing it's labelled as INDIAN in the files?

Mousing over the icon, it comes up as Swordsman, but it definitely looks like a Maceman in the mini-picture. I noticed this yesterday when I was playing as Persia.

Is this a known bug with the varietas delectat patch for RFC?

It seems to be the choice of the creators of VD.

It is a specific bug with the persian swordsman, already there from the previous version.

Edit: Never mind :)

will you make a new version for the new version of RFC? I hope i will be able to play with this mod!

I think that VD for Rhye's will work perfectly with the new version too.

did you try?
i have another question: is the ethnic citystyle of your mod in 1.04?

I've been playing as a Chinese for a bit, and I noticed that in the civlopedia, it looks like the varietas graphics for the more modern units (riflemen, tanks etc.) aren't being used. Is this on purpose?

will there be a new version of this very good mod?

Thanks. :) Is there a new version of VD for classic CIV? If yes, then there will.

i said that because vikings and khmer cities are a sort of mix between the other civ architecture. But i think there is a new version of ethnic citystyle who is not in the last varietas delectat mod, so it will be cool if they create a new version for normal civ.

egypt also suffers from this bug (buildings of all civs rather than its own).

Fix for the problem above described. Extract it in Assets\XML (overwrite)

thank you very much!

Hello,

I want to try this "modmod" but the download link doesn't work... it bring me to : http://www.filefront.com/

Is there an other link ? Or I miss something ?

The download link isn't working. I could possibly host the file, depending on its size, if you need permanent space.

It could be nice :) But where can you have the file?

One more file to fix missing art for improvements (towns). Uncompress it in the folder ..\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets\XML\Buildings

Oh my, it doesn't work? I'll re-upload it in today evening...

LW if you reupload you might want to include the 2 files I attached.

Oh, noez.

I accidentally deleted the file from my computer when downloading a new RFC version (since I do not use it anymore due to the fact that the new units' animations do not work well with Animations Frozen option checked).

Perhaps someone who has it can re-upload it or smthing?

Oh please I like so much varietas delectat and rhye's :P Two mods in one is just awesome.

Well, guess by the end of the week I can rewrite all that XML again.

Still,

Perhaps someone who has it can re-upload it or something? You'll need to upload only the XML stuff, since that's where all the changes for RFC compatibility are.

Here it is. At least, I think that's it, since I've lost the other files when I re-installed the pc.

Hello my first post here

I downloaded the file you uploaded Wessel and did what the first post on this topic said about the Modular XML thing

But all the custom unit graphics are now some kind of red sphere

True, these were only the XML files. I really hope Lonewolf will upload the graphic files soon:)

Whoops, I've found the mod on my computer. Uploading it now.

(buildings of all civs rather than its own).

Did you replace the CityLSystem XML file?

Uploaded again. Link:

http://files.filefront.com/RFC+VDzip/;12765123;/fileinfo.html

Udated the OP link too.

is it possible for you to make independant states in india for example looks like indian civ?

is it possible for you to make independant states in india for example looks like indian civ?

There's only two independent civs in RFC. If you want to give them, for example, Indian look, you will have to prepare to see Indian-looking independents in France, Egypt, China and Yucatán.

Lone Wolf can you explain how to install the mod? because with the upload, there is a lot of file that we don't know where to put. thank you.

Did you replace the CityLSystem XML file?

This file alone isn't enough. You need globalTypes to actually tell the computer to use the specific city sets and plotLSystem for specific improvements (pastures and towns).

This file alone isn't enough. You need globalTypes to actually tell the computer to use the specific city sets

Didn't know it, thanks. Well, I did include these files you contributed...

and can you change the installation instruction too please, with the new files it become very complicated to install the mod(there is win rar files In the principal win rar files!)?

Yeah, there are. They are Onedreamer's fixes. You just unzip them the second time. :)

Is it possible to set it up for the RFCEurope?

Is it possible to set it up for the RFCEurope?

No .

can't you just replace the old files by the new files in order to simplify the installation for noob like me?

CIV4CityLSystem.xml goes to

Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets\XML\Buildings.

The PlotLSystem (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197926&d=1229857862) goes to \Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets\XML\Buildings.

The GLobalTypes.xml (http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=197035&d=1229160988)

Goes to Rhye's and Fall of Civilization/Assets/XML.

Or you just can not bother with these files, in that case you will have normal RFC city sets.

I don't know if you want feedback, but some of the buttons are messed up. The Japanese Trireme and Galley icon both look the same, for instance.

A slightly more annoying error is the Japanese riflemen. The 'mini' image on the bottom left is all blacked out except for a sword, while the "ingame" rifleman looks fine.

It's stable though and otherwise works great. Thanks for modulating it.

Thanks for the refresh of the download link :) Let's try !

owhh damn..mine's not working.

I unzipped it to C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets

Then i edited the .ini file.

There's no changes. There was an exception though, once I placed the CityLSystem into XML\Buildings, all the cities in the game have nothing except for a palace and barren lands.

Anyone able to help? I'm like, so disappointed now =(

Do you have *.FPK files in the zip? If yes, then it seems that modular loading was off. Are you sure you edited the ini file correctly?

I edited the ini file into
[CONFIG]

; Read Game options from XML, not .ini
ForceGameOptions = 0

; Modular XML Loading
ModularLoading = 1


Wolf by the phrase in the zip do you mean inside the zip file I downloaded or the .FPK files inside Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets\RFC VD? If it is the latter, I have CD_v1.1.FPK, EthnicCitystyles_v1.03.FPK, and VarietasDelectat_v4.0.FPK. Are they suppose to disappear after modular loading is enabled? Or am I suppose to manually delete them?

Are they suppose to disappear after modular loading is enabled? Or am I suppose to manually delete them?

No and no, they contain the graphics. I meant "if you have them, then something else is wrong".

.FPK files inside Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets\RFC VD?

Ah, I realize it now. Try moving everything in the the RFC VD folder contains one folder higher - to Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall RAND\Assets.

The content was supposed to unzip straight to the "assets" folder, the RFC VD folder was a mistake when I reuploaded the thing.

Everything's working now. Thanks Lonewolf!

Is there a version for warlords? :)

I can't seem to get it to work I'm running the 3.17 patch installed it in the right place and started a new game.

Is there a version for warlords?

No. The ability to have different graphics for units without adding new units for every graphics was added in BTS.

A lack of Ethnically Diverse units and city styles was one drawback for me of what is otherwise one of my favourite mods. Thank you for making this available to all of us, I really appreciate the work! :goodjob:

I got the units working in RAND, but when I choose my civ/leader, the choices include the invisible civs, like the Independents and Koreans and such. It appears to have no impact on gameplay other than not being able to choose which leaderhead.

Did I install it wrong?

Erm, I have a problem where the city graphics of civs that use a mix of different cultures; are basically just a jumble of random buildings (vikings had an asian palace etc) and many of the textures on the buildings also are just random (playing as india, alot of the buildings looked kinda 'slummy' which i thought was intentional, but there were really no better looking buildings so i guess not...)
So far it seems to affect the vikings, indians, I think the khmer but im not sure...

Ill post a screenshot when I get round to it...
Is there a problem with how I installed it? Does anyone else expreience something similar?

i got exactly the same problem than Arkaeyn. invisible civ and normals civ(like sumerians) are present.
And there is a new version of varietas who will be available soon, don't forget to upgrade varietas for rhye's and fall too.

It appears the file once again is no longer available. Could you please reupload it one more time?

I got the units working in RAND, but when I choose my civ/leader, the choices include the invisible civs, like the Independents and Koreans and such. It appears to have no impact on gameplay other than not being able to choose which leaderhead.

RAND may have issues. But if it has no impact on the gameplay...

It appears the file once again is no longer available.

OK, I'll do it tomorrow. I'll also try to put all that jumpled instructions on cities in one place.

Sorry for the delay, tomorrow I shall definitely upload the stuff.

I really like the idea of this mod...

But the download link only leads to filefront.com...

Where can I get the file?

varietas delectat 5.0 is here!

Uploading the mod again... It will take 2 hours.

Uploaded again. WTF with filefront deleting stuff anyway?

Thanks LW. Much appreciated.

Download works now.

Awesome mod...the only thing I'd say could be better would be installation, maybe an auto-installer would make it perfect.

Any plans to update this mod to V5.0?

I'm testing VD 5.0 right now. Today I should upload it.

Updated to 5.0 version of VD. I also removed some Cannon models that were made with the assumption that they come at Steel, not at Gunpowder, and slightly increased the size of the new units, they seemed to need it for me.

A question: what do to with the Redcoat issue, namely the classic BTS Redcoat being used for English Musketman? Since in RFC, when America spawns, England usually has Riflemen, I'm tempted to reverse that VD change back to classic, so that at the time of American spawn, England will have the "American Revolution", not the "Crimean War" Redcoats.

Im having a problem... I updated my RFC and the modules no longer work

How exactly did you update your RFC? By deleting the previous RFC folder first?

Yeah I completely destroyed the previous folder and installed the latest version

And? I'm sorry to ask, did you install RFC VD again after that?

Yeah I even downloaded it again

Twice

Did you change the Rhye's and Fall of Civilization.ini file as per OP?

If yes, then in what folder you installed the modcomp? Is there any "RFC VD" folder in Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets?

Yes to both

Oh it used to work before but the RFC was the one that came with BTS

Yes to both

So you do have a RFC VD folder, right? That's what I dislike about zips utilities - they assume that the content in them needs an extra folder and create an annoying folder by default. Maybe I should have created an automatic installer, even through they have their share of problems.

Try moving everything in the the RFC VD folder one folder higher - to Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall RAND\Assets.

I have the files inside the RFC folder in the /Assets already but I keep the RFC VD folder in the /Assets too as backup incase I do something wrong with the files

Well, I'm totally baffled, then. It works for me perfectly. :confused:

Anyone else have that problem?

Mine works fine. I think the Modern Era Expansion for Varietas Delectat would be cool for rfc. Any plans on adding that in a mod?

Im sorry to bring this up again, but is it only for me that the citysets are really weird? these include egyptian, indian, khmer, viking etc... This does not occur if you use the regular veritas delectat by itself...

OK, I'm starting to regret everything I said about citysets, it's rather hard to explain how to get them. Damn Firaxis for not allowing the modders to make citysets modular.

Bahhhhh is there something i've missed? The same problem was there when I moved that file as per point 3 on the first post. But on the latest version of this mod that file isnt in there.

What do I have to do to get the citysets right? or is it not possible because of the way the mod works?

Anyway, I will explain. You also need GlobalDefines.xml, which was very helpfully posted by Onedreamer.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7544655&postcount=85

And here's the other file, which was mentoined in point 3: http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=206628&stc=1&d=1236791373

Ahh my apologies, I should have looked through more of the thread before complaining

I almost felt there was some conspiracy against me; you know, like the one guy in a horror film who knows whats going on but everyone thinks is insane? haha

But now you've got instructions on the first post it should be much more streamlined for everyone:goodjob:

Just thought i'd mention something, I've followed the instructions and played a game as the vikings; the city set seems okay (i can't remember if the vikings get anything other than the basic medieval european cityset... but anyway thats what it is) But the towns/cottages etc don't appear at all, just a blank space on the terrain.
I tried another game as the turks and they're fine though.

Strange, because it works fine for me. Civ4PlotLSystem can definitely fix it, but I dislike the VD plot art - the change to modern roads is too abrupt, they are ugly, and the graphics for water tiles worked in medieval/renaissance eras looks like it isn't affected by FoW to the degree it should.

Hmm Lone Wolf...

If it isnt a problem... could you upload your RFC folder itself?

Lol, I can't beleve I missed this.
About a mount ago, I went and did exacly the same thing you did with WD and Ries!
Had I only been smart enough to notice this thread, it would have saved me tons of work.
Do you keep it up to date with new editions of VD?

Do you keep it up to date with new editions of VD?

Yes .


If it isnt a problem... could you upload your RFC folder itself?

That'll be too annoying. You seem to have an extremely strange problem anyway.

I have absolutely no idea what I did but I fixed the problem somehow

I will try to find out what happened though...

Just thought i'd mention something, I've followed the instructions and played a game as the vikings; the city set seems okay (i can't remember if the vikings get anything other than the basic medieval european cityset... but anyway thats what it is) But the towns/cottages etc don't appear at all, just a blank space on the terrain.
I tried another game as the turks and they're fine though.

When you played as Vikings, with CityLSystem from VD in XML/ Buildings without GlobalDefines, do you get cottages/ towns with an unpredictable mix of architectural elements? I mean, do you see your cottages/ towns with strange neighbours? Medieval European art one side, then the Egyptian art on the other side?

When you do replace Global Defines, do you get blank empty tiles for the supposed cottages/ towns?

And the same thing happens even when you downloaded another file of CityLSystem?

Cause I'm facing this problem and I've gone nuts figuring how to fix it :crazyeye:

I'll have to find a new place for hosting the file now...

Hmm... I seem to have a problem. I downloaded your Modmod to the correct place (which I think is My Documents/My Games/Beyond the Sword/MODS/Rhyes and Fall of Civilization/Assets), but I see no change in the graphics for the units. Plus after I tried that I attempted to download your city fix but that just messed up my game further. Is there something wrong with the files or installation? Cause I really want to use this modmod :D.

Could someone give me the link for the most recent update of this mod, as the one posted is old and from browsing ive noticed there has been some fixes

My Documents/My Games/Beyond the Sword/MODS/Rhyes and Fall of Civilization/Assets)

That's not the correct place. "Your Civ4 directory" means stuff like C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4.

That's not the correct place. "Your Civ4 directory" means stuff like C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4.

Oh, ok, that makes a lot more sense :D. Thanks dude!

Buuuuuuut, I installed the mod in the My Documents/BTS mods folder, not my C:/Program Files/BTS mods folder, if I install it in the C: folder, will it still affect the mod or not?

Buuuuuuut, I installed the mod in the My Documents/BTS mods folder, not my C:/Program Files/BTS mods folder, if I install it in the C: folder, will it still affect the mod or not?

I've already said that My Documents folder is not the Correct Way.

I've already said that My Documents folder is not the Correct Way.

I meant the Rhyes and Fall Mod is installed in my "My Documents" Folder. I have a Rhyes and Fall Mod in the C: folder its just an older version. What I was trying to say is that if I install it in the C: folder, with the older version, will it affect the newer version in my My Documents folder?

I meant the Rhyes and Fall Mod is installed in my "My Documents" Folder. I have a Rhyes and Fall Mod in the C: folder its just an older version. What I was trying to say is that if I install it in the C: folder, with the older version, will it affect the newer version in my My Documents folder?

You'd better just put the latest version of RFC in the C:\ folder too.

You'd better just put the latest version of RFC in the C:\ folder too.

Alright, sounds good, thanks again :D.

Edit: Hmm... my computer says it can't save the ini file, (the one in which you need to change modular loading), it says it can't create a path. I didn't have a problem when editing the My Documents folder, but for some reason this one won't let me do it.

Edit: Hmm... my computer says it can't save the ini file, (the one in which you need to change modular loading), it says it can't create a path.

So you can open it, but it doesn't allow you to save it? I'm totally baffled myself.

Here, I got a snap-shot of the error.

I'll edit Modular Loading to "1", then go and click the save button. But right after I do, this handy little error pops up.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=212677&stc=1&d=1241210957

I then proceed to click "Ok", which brings me to the "Save As" screen. Of Course, I click the save button and the same error comes up. I have no clue what the problem is :confused:

This is a vista's well known bug. Fortunately i know how tho resolve it!

-Click right on your files(your text).
-Click properties(propriétés in french, i don't have an english computer)
-Click security
-Click on users(utilisateurs in french)
-click modify
-and allow you all the autorisations
- you apply
-you change the xml
-you put the autorisations as they was before.
(sorry for bad english)
And after...this is finish.

This is a vista's well known bug. Fortunately i know how tho resolve it!

-Click right on your files(your text).
-Click properties(propriétés in french, i don't have an english computer)
-Click security
-Click on users(utilisateurs in french)
-click modify
-and allow you all the autorisations
- you apply
-you change the xml
-you put the autorisations as they was before.
(sorry for bad english)
And after...this is finish.

Oh, wow thanks dude! It worked! Yay! :thanx:

btw, your English is fine :D, let me see if I can lay some French on you (my sister takes it). Comment ca va?

ça va bien!

Anyway, I will explain. You also need GlobalDefines.xml, which was very helpfully posted by Onedreamer.

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=7544655&postcount=85

And here's the other file, which was mentoined in point 3: http://forums.civfanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=206628&stc=1&d=1236791373

Is these files still compatible with the last version? I remember that when onedreammer gave to us these files, the version was based on VD 4.0. Now that your mod is based on VD5.3(who uses ethnic citystyle 1.4 instead of 1.3 who was in the the 4.0 version) does these files always compatible? And if they are compatible, do they replace the ethnic citystyle 1.4 by the 1.3?

Sorry for the bad english, but it would be very nice if you answer.

Looks like download is broken, filefront sent me to the front page and lonewolf profile is empty... :(

Anyone one can upload it somewhere? That's sth i really miss in vanilia RFC.

Lonewolf we need you!

i hope lonewolf is not dead!(VD is to 6.0 and will become 7.0 soon).

Hi, I'm a bit confused on how to install this mod? could someone please help me get the most recent version of this quite intresting mod?:)

I promise to reupload it tomorrow, after my Ancient History exam.

Re-uploading now. Two hours left. That's not a new version so far, just a reupload of the old.

Will you uplading the mod now or wait for the next version of VD(who will probably include the new ethnic citystyle that geo is making) and of RFC?
I think it should be better to wait, espacially to economize boring and unuseful work.

This is a great mod, but unfortunately VD + big map = no game for me, so I'm going to investigate a way to integrate Ethnic Citystyles alone.

The new unit stats in the latest RFC patch require an update. It's currently being done.

Updated to VD 6.1 and to the latest RFC.

I got a problem, when i tried to launch rhyes's and fall(with your mod), a message tell me

"Failed loading xml file modules/varietasdelectat/xml/unitartstyles/vd_civ4civilizationinfos.xml."

and a second message tell me the same thing except that instead of "Failed loading xml file" it says LoadXML call failed for modules ect...

OK, I'll check the problem... Fixed, uploaded the fixed version.

Where can VD version 6.1 be downloaded?

Where can VD version 6.1 be downloaded?

Apparently, it's 7.0 already. And it can be downloaded here (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=237192).

I got a proble with the english rifleman, they are represented by 3 big red bubbles...

I got a proble with the english rifleman, they are represented by 3 big red bubbles...

What era are you in?

Is this modmod compatible with the latest RFC version?

Is this modmod compatible with the latest RFC version?

Yes .

What era are you in?

I am approximately in 1600, i think that i'm in renaissance. So the english soldier must be Harquebusier.

PS: i don't want to be indiscreet, but how many times it take to you to upload the version? I ask that because VD is updated very often, so i wanted to know how much it can boredom you.

Perceval, are you talking about Musketmen or Redcoats? Since Redcoats should be OK, but I see the mistake I did with the Muskets (which shouldn't have an unique graphics). The fix is in attachment. Unzip it to Modules\Varietas Delectat\XML\UnitArtStyles&CivInfos, overwriting the previous file, and the Muskets should be back to normal.

Thanks!

Is this modmod compatible with the latest RFC version?

No offense, but it would help all modders in this little subforum if you took your time to sit down and learn the basics of modding and not ask the same question every time a new version is released. While it is helpful to remind the modders to update their work, an already updated version is always compatitable with the latest version of RFC.

Not to totally ruin your day though, I'll explain things briefly now. Civ IV uses DLL, SDK, XML and Python as its "script languages" while art files usually take form in DDS. Out of these all, Varietas Delectat adds only new art files (dds, in FPK-packing) and ties them together with XML (used as Civ IV's "backbone" to unify information together). Since RFC's updates are heavily Python, SDK and DLL related, most versions of Lone Wolf's Varietas Delectat RFC implementation should be compatitable with surprisingly large amount of RFC patches.

So there, that should be enough to help you check modcomps' compatibility with one another/different versions of RFC by yourself.

One more thing: since RFC Europe has been originally created as a mod within a mod, it is more distorted from the original Civ IV than RFC. Therefore waiting for a RFC:E compatitable VD is not going to happen anytime soon; it uses a number of entirely new civilizations and units, many of which don't have good second graphics (not to mention 17). If there ever is going to be one though, whoever does that has to do a lot of work to put it all together. Besides, Venezian Arquebusier might not be so much different from its French counterpart so that it would make a difference to make an entirely new art for it.

Have a good day.

Speaking as one of the RFC Europe team, I agree with what you've said. As there is substantially little difference between various nationalities for many European units, there is really no intention to import the whole VD package into our mod. So far we have made limited substantial differences to UUs to add flavour to each civ, like the Genoan balestrieri, and the Arab Ghazi light cavalry. Soon though, we will making more fundamental changes to the unit graphics of particular civs as a whole, starting with the Arabs, Cordobans and Ottomans. Later, we'll try to extend that to the Byzantines and Eastern civs like the Bulgarians, Kievan Rus and Moscow. So rather than import VD (as good as it is) we'll approach culturally diverse units sytematically, basically one civ at a time.:)

I enjoy the various styles quite nicely, but I seem to have a problem, my Cottages/Hamlets/Villages/Towns vanish after sometime, so far though only as Egypt. I just played a quick game as Babylon and my cottages remained as did Indian towns, but Egypt's still vanished but with a mouse over I knew they where there. Anyone else have this problem, easy fix, or is it probably something I did?

This is a well known bug, but look at the first page and you will see that lonewolf ask us to download to little files who correct the problem.

Yes, and I have downloaded those files, before I even played the first time with it, and Egypt still has vanishing villages.

You must ave done an eroor during your installation!

Let's recapitulate:

-You download the principal fies(varietas for RFC)

-You unzip it and put it contents in Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets

-You open the files Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization.ini and change the XML modular loading to 1

-You download the CityLSystem file

-you put it in Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rhye's and Fall of Civilization\Assets\XML\Buildings(you overwrite the old files)

-You download Globaltipe

-you put it in asset/XML


And you've got a perfect installation, so it should not be vanilla element, don't forget to accept to overwrite when it ask you!

I reinstalled RFC and VD fresh and still they vanish. Yes, with the other files too in their proper locations.

EDIT: I went back and found the series of posts containing the fixed GlobalTypes, there I found the fix for the towns (PlotLSystem), that wasn't linked on the first page. Going to test now, though I am sure that was all I was missing.

Yeah, i think that lonewolf should simplify all these...procedure. But the problem is that i think it is impossible.

PS for lonewolf: When will you update your excellent mod to VD 7.5?

After improving my swap file and speeding up code, this is working on my system. Great job!

Hi I'm having a bunch of problems that only happen when I install the VD modmod.

first is that when I start any game I start with no expansion civic and it just says despotism.
second is that the mercenary screen sometimes randomly goes blank .
third is that the city screen sometimes goes blank on the bottom where you tell it what to build.
and last is that once a tribal village didn't do anything when units went over it.

All of these problems seem graphic related so Im guessing they has to do with this mod. Im guessing with the tribal village that there wasn't really a tribe there because someone got it but than it stayed on the screen. but that's just a guess I really have no idea why these things are happening.

edit: Im positive these are VD related since after I reinstalled RFC without it everything worked fine.

On a tangential note, I've played as the English and I'm getting strange city names when I found them outside my standard areas, like "Fort Cambridge" in southern Brazil or "Rooker Town" in South East Africa. Is this due to the Varietas Delectat modmod, or is it in RFC 1.186?

Varietas Delectat. ;) I allowed myself some liberties here...


PS for lonewolf: When will you update your excellent mod to VD 7.5?

I don't think I will do it, because the only updated units in 7.5 are the Native Americans, Byzantines and Carthaginians, of whom only Carthaginians have an influental enough part in RFC.

Yes but the new citystyle set is amazing and your mod is not to 7.0, so there is much more units who are not present in it.

Varietas Delectat. ;) I allowed myself some liberties here...

That's great. How did you do it? I can't find it in the code.

EDIT: never mind, I found it, that's smart.

That's great. How did you do it? I can't find it in the code.

When a civ founds a city on a tile which is not is settler maps, the city names are taken from default list from Civ4CivilizationInfos.xml. Since VD uses its own Civ4CivilizationInfos (Modules\Varietas Delectat\XML\UnitArtStyles&CivInfos\VD_Civ4CivilizationInfos.xml), I can change the default list without changing the original files.

Forget about the tribal village problem I'm still having that without VD.:(

Quick bug report. (IDK if this is just the RFC version of VD or VD as a whole, but since it's fairly major I'm guessing it's RFC.)
Some city styles simply do not appear. For example, the Khmer and Egyptian cities are completely invisible. It works fine with other civs, my (Japanese) and Chinese cities are fully visible.

Which version of VD does this mod actually use?

6.2 i think...

Lonewolf, varietas is to 8.0 now, will you upload your version?

Done all the XML changes. Rar-ing and uploading.

Thank you very much!

Uploaded. Notice also that the additional files attached to the OP are also updated to the latter diverse citystyles.

I am experiencing errors. First, there is an syntax error in VD_Civ4CivilizationInfos.xml. There is a faulty FreeTechs tag on line 2409; the slash is in the wrong place. Second, this error happens:
Traceback (most recent call last):

File "CvWBInterface", line 18, in writeDesc

File "CvWBDesc", line 1533, in write

File "CvWBDesc", line 470, in write

RuntimeError: unidentifiable C++ exception
ERR: Python function writeDesc failed, module CvWBInterface


This relates to the following line in the vanilla BTS Python code:

f.write("\tArtStyle=%s\n" %(gc.getArtStyleTypes(gc.getPlayer(idx).getArtStyl eType())))


This is involved with WorldBuilder things; I don't know if it's critical to the game as usually played.

I am experiencing errors. First, there is an syntax error in VD_Civ4CivilizationInfos.xml. There is a faulty FreeTechs tag on line 2409; the slash is in the wrong place. Second, this error happens:

Sorry, I was not able to playtest the thing right now. Fix is in the CivilizationInfos attachment, put it to \Assets\Modules\Varietas Delectat\XML\UnitArtStyles&CivInfos. OK to overwrite.

Does the Python exception crush the game?

EDIT: My apologies, one of the attachments was not necessary, it was already included.

Does it work now?

The Python exception seems to only affect WorldBuilder; I'm able to play the game fine without fixing it.

As I said before, excellent work.

Do all the city styles work?

In the post # 222 attached a new version of the bugfix that sets the Keshik as the proper UU of the Knight, not of the HA.

It works fine for me!

Do all the city styles work?

I've seen the styles from the new Cultural Citystyles patch, and lots others, so I assume so.

Can anyone post some picturesque screenshots of RFC VD in action here? I can't load Civ now, and I'd like to update the screenshots in the OP, as well as just see the results of my XML work.

How about those?

Thanks! I also didn't expect for the Leaning Tower graphic to work, but it apparently works. Nice Greek and Ethiopian empires, BTW.

I noticed the farms look like the crops are made out of paper. Is this a bug or a feature?

Apparently, a feature. I don't see them as that paperlike, however. If you are referring to them being flat, the original wheat graphics suffer from that problem also. I guess the new, more detailed texture can bring more visual attention to the crops model being two-dimensional.

It's just a retexture, I think, not a totally new model.

It's just a retexture, I think, not a totally new model.

That's what I am saying.

That's what I am saying.

Yes it is.

This mod looks great, I was just wondering if its compatible with the latest version of RFC (which is 1.186)

Of course it is compatible!

Quick question. If I just wanted to integrate the ethnic cities into the mod, what would I do? My game gets really bogged down if I use the entire mod.

(Image attached to this post)

Is this what was in mind while making this, or did I install the Citystyles module incorrectly? Because the Citystyles in the Varietas Delectat mod don't look like this. :/

EDIT: Nevermind, I finally got the buildings to work via the directions on the first post, although the last time I tried all the buildings were red spheres.

I don't know if this has been addressed but why doesn't Babylon have a unique unit Art Style? The Babylonian units look like vanilla BTS mid-east units.
Thought I don't remember if VD had a Babylonian Art Style?:confused:

Great Mod! Two questions though:
1. Is this mod still in progress, or is there no more development going into it?
2. Is it possible if you could include the modmod which changes the stonehenge into the sphinx? Please! :D

But other then that great job, and I really hope you continue to work with this, and maybe expand into new areas :goodjob:

1. Is this mod still in progress, or is there no more development going into it?

When new VD comes out, I usually plunge it sooner or later.

To the previous posters: did you went though all the messy stages correctly? Does anyone else have that problem?

Ya I have a few bugs/errors to report to you, but first what do you mean by "plunge", and will you add the sphinx modmod into your next update?

Anyways, onto the bugs:
1. The buildings in Babylon has textures from all sorts of cultures!
2. The Maceman (which should be called "heavy" swordsman) has the unit card of an archer.
3. For the Persians, if I were you I would change the Immortal unit card to the picture of the immortal (like in normal RFC) instead of having a chariot picture represent the immortal, because then it get confusing with regular chariots.
4. Same with the Riflemen, they have the unit card of a musketman

Anyways, onto the bugs:
1. The buildings in Babylon has textures from all sorts of cultures!

I was just about to report that too. Here's a screenshot if you will (attached to post). The situation is the same for the Native civilization.

Also, the game crashes from loading a game I got far in. When the game finishes loading, the game crashes. I'm sure that it has something to do with this modmod. What should I do?

The same happens to me all the time, sometimes the game even crashes when I am saving and I do not have to tell anyone that is annoying... If you post your save I guarantee someone will be able to open it up and play it. You can try loading a save from a couple of turns prior and playing past the save you cannot load? I would also like to see if anyone has advice for this. It could just be that the combination of RFC and Varietas Delectat becomes too memory intensive in the later parts of the game, colonization and onwards.

This is so frustrating, although I'm not going to blame Lone Wolf for it...

I did try to follow the instructions for installing this modmod, but it didn't work.

I use jZip, and when I tried extracting the files to assets like the first step told me to do, I ran into a bunch of errors...

Also, when I tried to change the .ini file (went a step ahead) because I can USUALLY change the configuration files, it told me that I couldn't save the change because it was in the wrong directory somehow.

Can anyone help me on this...and take into account that I'm definitely not an expert at code or editing files, and especially not creating new content. (Even though I wish that I was, because I know a lot about history)

Unfortunately, I don't have my computer which can run Civ with me now, so I can't test it all. Does everyone have that problem?

Unfortunately, I don't have my computer which can run Civ with me now, so I can't test it all. Does everyone have that problem?

It could just be the jZip programs fault. I've had problems like this with other mods...but I honestly don't know if it's jZip's fault or not.

Ya I have a few bugs/errors to report to you, but first what do you mean by "plunge", and will you add the sphinx modmod into your next update?

Anyways, onto the bugs:
1. The buildings in Babylon has textures from all sorts of cultures!
2. The Maceman (which should be called "heavy" swordsman) has the unit card of an archer.
3. For the Persians, if I were you I would change the Immortal unit card to the picture of the immortal (like in normal RFC) instead of having a chariot picture represent the immortal, because then it get confusing with regular chariots.
4. Same with the Riflemen, they have the unit card of a musketman

But currently I think the above issues are more pressing as they are probably some of the biggest bugs in this modmod. When do you think you'll be able to get your computer that supports civ? Because there is a long list of bugs and errors which really need to be fixed up. Keep up the good work :goodjob:

I'm wondering why I can't even edit the .ini file. That makes no sense to me since it's not read-only...