Rules:
(Based off choxorn's rules)

-Unlimited players, the more the better.
- 1 mafia per 6-7 players.
- Sign-ups last for slightly longer then 3 days (At 1:10 A.M GMT Thursday 26 June, I will start)
- Night will last 24 hours.
- At night, the mafia send in their kill to the GM (me) (give explanation for the clue as well)
- Day will last for 48 hours.
- During the day, everybody will vote for people to lynch.
- Bold your vote. You get as many votes as there are mafia remaining.
- Mafia can send false clues, but cannot make 2 in a row.
-The mafia are all against each other. They win by being the last one standing. Each citizen group wins if their Agenda is on top at the game end and they have killed all the Mafia.
-The Innocents are divided into three, each with an Agenda- Democratic, Monarchist, or Socialist. Your policy on revealing or concealing your Agenda is your own, but your objective is to make sure your Agenda is in the majority at game end.
-You ARE allowed to lie in-game, whether innocent or mafia.
-You CAN switch agendas mid-game (OR pretend to) IF you are accepted by them through a secret majority vote. (Your own agenda switch is anonymous- PMs will be sent to everybody with that agenda saying somebody wishes to change sides, and they vote)
-You CAN P.M any other player for secret plans, alliances, lies, and so on.
-It is highly recommended you either tell me to be ambiguous or PM me about who you’re saying to whom. I would prefer the latter, personally.
-A new player can join the game with the approval of a majority of those already in it. Their real agenda is their own decision, and what agenda they are planning to join and the like comes under the rules about lies.
-RP is allowed and encouraged. To the extent possible, I will incorporate it into the update.

Introduction:
The nation of Fictionalia used to have a strong sense of unity. Under an elective monarchy (where the Council voted in monarchs for life), they managed to keep peace and order, at least.

Fictionalia still has a strong sense of unity, but foreigners have spread ideas for a Democratic or Socialist Fictionalia. Nobody wants a civil war, and the loyalty to the system of General Plot Device means that whoever gets the post of Emperor will be able to implement whatever agenda they want.

Naturally, several people are out for power- and practically all of them willing to kill to get it. Others genuinely serve one agenda or another. Who will win is another question…

Player List: (without dead players)
-Stuck in Pi
-Lightfang
-Sirtommygun
-Tasslehoff
-taillesskangaru
-Rheinmetall
-choxorn
-Pinman
-Tolis

I'm in. Hopefully nobody does any math related clues this time.

I'm in like a person who is in.

In. Interesting variant.

In. Now. Please reduce the character limit to 2 instead of 10.

Im definatly in, I need to get back to playing forum games. :)

The Ronin steps out of the shadows and . .. .. .. .. . his gun.

In like an insider on the inside.

Question, do players know who is also in their agenda? In other words, do you start off knowing who your 'teammates' are?

Not a signup.

Completely and utterly in

Question, do players know who is also in their agenda? In other words, do you start off knowing who your 'teammates' are?

Not a signup.

Yes, but some might defect mid-game.

Inn.

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Question, do players know who is also in their agenda? In other words, do you start off knowing who your 'teammates' are?

Not a signup.

Yes, but some might defect mid-game.

Would that mean that at the beginning of the game, the Democratic, Monarchist and Socialist 'teams' could all read out their list of members, and those who aren't on any of the lists are the mafia?

Each team wants to be in the majority by game end, so they want the mafia to kill off some of their opponents.

But that's a good point- maybe it would be better if nobody knows who has what agenda.

i N !

Haven't played in a year...oh well

IN

IN


And for good measure I PWNED YALLZ IN THE LAST GAME!

IN.

Time to delete some of my old Lazy-NES PM's... :p

IN

This is mafia's last chance at keeping me as a player so you better make it a good one Never! :p

in :evil:

Hey, does this looks like I'm IN ?

Well, it sure does.

I'll join.

Actually, I think I made a mixup by copying and pasting Choxorn's rules. It's adjusted now. I also made an adjustment because of school- sorry.

But that's a good point- maybe it would be better if nobody knows who has what agenda.
If noone knows who has what agenda what would be the point of having them? Wouldn't people just try to vote off the mafiosos and hope that their agenda happens to be the one in the majority?

You can use PMs and thread clues to infer people's agenda. Amongst other things, you can:
-Threaten to kill them off
-Spare or support a known mafia in exchange for them killing off your rivals
-Try to persuade people to defect to your agenda
-Use false defections to try and figure out agendas
-Try to get an agenda team together for block votes

you're going to make thread clues about people's agendas? It just seems to me that what agenda you are part of should have some impact on the game besides determining the winner at the end.

During the game, people with a certain agenda are supposed to try and further it by the methods they can think of. You raise a good point though, and I'll do something about it if others support that opinion.

This sounds more like a NOTW format, so therefore I'll give it a try. I'm in.

IMMA FIRIN' MY IN!!

I'll reduce the amount of ghost comments I make, perhaps to zero.

ghost comments are for sore losers.

Or for sore winners

No cuz, winners don't die ;)

Losing is fun!

ill try i guess

STARTING UP. Introduction will go here, and emails are going out telling people what they are.

NOTE: Some of the clues may be red herrings. I won't say how many. Also, just because I give a detail doesn't mean it's a clue.

Introduction:
The Council of Fictionalia had been called. The nineteen members from the many states which made up the nation had come to session. The nation was suprisingly ancient, given that it still had a large monarchist faction in an age of nuclear weapons.

But the age of monarchy, it was said, was over. While monarchy still had a chance to survive this Council, that it would was by no means certain. Due to the many lynch mobs that threatened a canidate whichever way he voted, everybody had come under code names.

Stuck in Pi arrived at the Capital first, settling down in the palace for a good drink. Lightfang asked to join him, but was rebuffed.

Empiremaker, representative of the Capital Province, arrived next. D'Artagan 59 arrived on horseback, having lost significant money to gambling. By contrast, Sirtommygun arrived in a private plane, though it did crash.

The13thRonin sailed in from abroad, meeting Tasslehoff at the port as they headed for the capital. tailleskangaru was rumoured to be an ex-criminal who had made his wife lock up all the detectives tracking him in a castle, but these rumors was dismissed by the officials in charge.

Rheinmetall, after a holiday on the Rhine, sailed back to Fictionalia for the election. Junglecutter had wanted to join him, but had urgent buisness in the Capital. killfire had rushed by train to the capital. choxorn, the ex-mayor of Normalsville, had come by bus.

Kol.7 was already there, having just returned from his controversial tenure as American Ambassador. Perfection was late, having barely completed studies at a European university. His friend Izipo had delayed the Council until he arrived, however.

While Pinman had borrowed money to come by car, Methos had chosen instead of a car to come with a horse escort, while Stylesrj had made a point of walking. Tolis had warned him not to, and came by car instead.

Another Note
R.P is fine and welcome. To the extent I can, it will be in the update.

AT 1:40 G.M.T, WILL DO NEXT UPDATE. MAFIA, SEND IN YOUR KILLS

E-mails? ;)

Pretty sure he means PMs.

Let's all be socialists so noone but the mafia loses! :dance:

By contrast, Sirtommygun arrived in a private plane, though it did crash.


So I finally get a plane all to myself, and it crashes. This would be the kind of luck I have in real life. :lol:

NOTE: So that I can adjust clues accordingly, those who change agenda should inform me by P.M.

I think my political leaning is left-wing

The days of the Ancien Regime are way over! It is the people's turn now.

OOPS. I forgot to send some people their agendas. Doing so now.

Hey everybody! Should we all vote to determine a mayor or something? Oh, and Lightfang, I didn't give you a drink because you were .000000000089547373 cents short. Sorry.

Shouldn't we know who are in our agendas? Not knowing makes things a tad confusing.

No, it's a secret from everybody. If I were a Socialist, I wouldn't know who the other Socialists were. Same thing if I was Democratic or Monarchist. You know the political leaning of no one but yourself.

No one will guess what my political leaning is!

By the way, how long will we have the king for?

The King elected at the Conference, if he doesn't willingly abdicate, will be for life. General Plot Device will see to that.

As the sun rose, somebody was heard muttering about Methos was too old to be an elector. Tolis was seen arguing with Stuck in Pi about “the way forward”.

But all this was overshadowed by the events about to take place…

“Murder!” cried Rhinemetall. Perfection and Stylesrj were first to hear, dropping their argument and running for the scene. A detective was looking at the scene, and had already drawn a conclusion.

Junglecutter was killed by a group of Frenchmen and the Venerable Bede.

Methos and Rheinmetall were discussing plans for something or other, when they heard D'Artagan59 rush into the room. “Murder!” he cried. “I saw it happen!”

Perfection ate a poisoned pie. Two hours later, his stomach exploded.

Pinman and Kol.7 heard him cry, and rushed to the scene. choxorn came next, informing them of the first murder.

Empiremaker gathered the others together- a discussion of the murders was necessary. Pinman happened to be there already, and seemed to be imploring Lightfang about something.

“So” asked killfire, “whodunit?”
“Perhaps we should leave this to the detectives?” replied Izipo.
“No way!” replied sirtommygun. “We should figure this out ourselves!”

General Plot Device slapped himself on the head, as the current sovereign of the realm began to investigate.

It is Day! Votes on who to lynch! Remember, there are three Mafias!

Wussy mafia can't handle the Perfs :smug:

Also am I dead? Cuz you can live without a stomach.

Three mafias but only two dead? :confused:

One of them forgot to send in a kill. Either that, or they're the last person (not Stylesrj) to recieve a message telling them their agenda.

hence the reason we're also short one clue?

Am I supposed to make one?

Wussy mafia can't handle the Perfs :smug:

Also am I dead? Cuz you can live without a stomach.

If someones stomach explodes, they can die in a few ways. For example YOU FREAKIN' BLEED TO DEATH GENIUS!

If someones stomach explodes, they can die in a few ways. For example YOU FREAKIN' BLEED TO DEATH GENIUS!

FYP.

Anyway, the only lead I can see, is Stuck In Pi= poisoned pie, but that seems a bit too obvious for me. Any other ideas?

Sorry, don't check for mistakes very often. :blush:

Neverwon, if they don't send a kill, you're supposed to make an easy clue pointing to them.

The "Frenchman" points to D'artagnan, but things associated with France are used far too often to point a finger at him.

Although, we could lynch him without him caring, cuz he never posts outside of RFMK 3 and Random Rants. :lol:

Lynch kill_fire. According to perfection, I'm a sore loser and kill_fire won last game, so let's lynch him!

:joke:

I dunno who I should vote for. Someone go start a bandwagon that does not involve me!

Neverwon, if they don't send a kill, you're supposed to make an easy clue pointing to them.

I'm not 100% sure I haven't made a stuffup, so I'll give it a little while.

{Gone for the weekend}

First of all, I'd like to say to the mafia that the kills were very poorly chosen. Junglecutter said he hadn't played in a year, so that's definitely not a nice welcome party. Same could be said about Perf, who had a chance, maybe, to redeem itself.

Anyway, the first clue is quite interesting but I can't pinpoint with accuracy the perpetrator.
Junglecutter was killed by a group of Frenchmen and the Venerable Bede.

Now, a quick wiki search will explain that this guy was a saint that lived in Sunderland. I'm pretty sure I've seen that somewhere, but can't find it again (a signature ? An avatar location ?). So, search your memories for that.

The second clue doesn't make any sense.

Nit-picking medieval junkey alert:
Bede was not a saint, he was the level right below one.

Well, there is a CFC poster named Bede, but to the best of my knowledge, he's never posted in Forum games.

Nit-picking medieval junkey alert:
Bede was not a saint, he was the level right below one.

Yes you're right. Still, I'm pretty sure the key point here is 'Sunderland'. So, who's from England ?

Btw, Alzheimer sucks.

If someones stomach explodes, they can die in a few ways. For example YOU FREAKIN' BLEED TO DEATH GENIUS!I DIDN'T SAY THAT YOU COULDN'T, EINSTEIN!

Now, this is getting interesting...
So, following my reasoning I searched a bit more for Sunderland. It's in Northumbria in Great Britain.
Some time ago there was a NES set in medieval times, and guess who (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=6760294&postcount=315) played Northumbria ?

Also, Catharsis' name seems to crop up A LOT when you search for 'Sunderland'.

Must mean I'm on the wrong track, but I'd like to hear what people think...

Now, this is getting interesting...
So, following my reasoning I searched a bit more for Sunderland. It's in Northumbria in Great Britain.
Some time ago there was a NES set in medieval times, and guess who (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=6760294&postcount=315) played Northumbria ?

Also, Catharsis' name seems to crop up A LOT when you search for 'Sunderland'.

Must mean I'm on the wrong track, but I'd like to hear what people think...

The cocking of Ronin's pistol can be heard behind Izipo. Time to kill brother?

Well, there is a CFC poster named Bede, but to the best of my knowledge, he's never posted in Forum games.

True, but I seem to recall an SG called the Flying Dutchmen, or something like that. Other then me, who else here has participated in SG's? Also note, it could be a throw off clue.

The cocking of Ronin's pistol can be heard behind Izipo. Time to kill brother?

Odd comment.

Time to kill brother?

:lol:
I just hope we do a better job than last time...

Hard to cast the first vote, I'm not even sure Catharsis is playing...
Sure, it could be a false clue, but it rings true. Inspiring, but hard to crack and with a not-so-subtle throw off part (The Frenchman thing).
There could be a link with SGs too, so that would mean either Tasslehoff or Choxorn.

I'm afraid to vote, for fear a starting a false bandwagon, so I'll think about it some more.
My prime suspects for now :
Catharsis (seriously, is he playing ?)
LightFang
Tasslehoff
Choxorn

Perhaps we should bandwagon on Empiremaker...

:joke:

Catharsis isn't playing. Not on the list. Do a word search.

My vote is still undecided until we get more evidence (or a bandwagon)

Yes, but neither I nor Tasslehoff has been in an SG with Bede- the only ones either of us have played in SG's with are JJJSpider, Elephantium, Cyllus, Hawk Cheiftain, The Overseer, killerkid, Elear, Kraznaya, and Sk8boardbob.

Check the links in our sig if you don't believe me (and yes, there are some from the first 2 in mine that aren't on the list, but they were no-shows for most or all of the game, and even then, none of them are Bede)

Yes, but neither I nor Tasslehoff has been in an SG with Bede-

I've played in SG's with Bede. In fact, he was the one who introduced them to me back in 2005. I keep thinking I was in the very SG that I'm thinking about, which means that its either a false clue (I'm not mafia), or I'm going the wrong way with this.

Check the links in our sig if you don't believe me

Uh, your sig isn't home right now....

MID-DAY COUNT:
It would have been the middle of the night my time at the point I should have posted this, which is why I didn't. TECHNICALLY, only Stylesrj has voted for killfire.

I will give until 1:00 to vote, and apologise for the delay.

Oh, right. :lol: I forgot.

Well, search the Civ3 Succesion Games forum for:

My first SG (for newbies)
n's religously wonderful SG
Hawk01- 5CC Regent
Hawk02- The Five Sacred Cities
Hawk03- Persian Astronauts
3CC PTW AWM

I'm not very good at this stuff.

Ok, as a last-ditch effort:

kill_fire
Empiremaker
Choxorn

Sorry...

I will give until 1:00 to vote, and apologise for the delay.

Can you post and state exactly what time it is when you make that post, so the rest of us can look at your time and the posts timestamp too figure out how much time we have.

Example: At the time I posted this it's 8:13 pm.

Sorry- from my time it was 10:36.

I vote Stylesrj for random voting.

Ahh... random bandwagoning. Always bad.

choxorn.

My vote is still undecided until we get more evidence (or a bandwagon)

Looks like the bandwagon has started.....

I vote Stylesrj for random voting.

I vote Stylesrj.

Stylesrj random voting, Methos for the self-admitted link, and Izipo. Poisoned = Snake in avatar and it is could have something to do with medicine, which also relates to the avatar.

Never thought of that, Empiremaker.

Izipo is my second vote.

I'm not random voting Stylesrj, I'm voting Stylesrj because he random voted.

Oh...

Whoops.

stylesrj, then.

I withdraw my vote on Choxorn.

I vote Stylesrj, Empiremaker and D'Artagnan59.

Stylesrj because I can and Empiremaker and D'Artagnan59 for attacking the wise Izipo.

Odd comment.

No less odd than all my others.

I change my vote on choxorn to D'Artagnan59 and my vote on Empiremaker to Methos.

Now it isn't me randomly voting, I'm voting because of new evidence. But comrades, why do you believe random voters are Mafia? Instead of wasting efforts on the person who votes random, focus on the clues.

VOTING OVER. I go with the draw that on a tie everybody dies...

Stylesrj was executed by firing squad, proclaiming to the end he was innocent. As the detectives soon discovered, he was. INNOCENT.

Next, Empiremaker was caught trying to make a getaway attempt and ran over by Izipo with Methos's car. But, since General Plot Device had bugged his room, it was clear he couldn't have done it. He was INNOCENT.

Izipo's failed attempt to persuade the others he was innocent ended in failure, as he was blown up by a car bomb. While he was still suspected, in reality he was INNOCENT.

Methos, thwarted in trying to make a getaway in his own car, but was sentenced to death by endless Uwe Boll movies. But his private, hidden diary showed he must have been INNOCENT.

Finally, D’Artagan59 nearly persuaded the others he was innocent, until his own diary was found. He was shot dead, as a MAFIA.

It is NIGHT. Mafia, send in your kills!

Pre Ghost Comment: Ah crap. Oh well. But look at me! I wasn't Mafia... AGAIN!

Pre Ghost Comment: Ah crap. Oh well. But look at me! I wasn't Mafia... AGAIN!

If you're not in my agenda I don't care if you're mafia or not.

Final Ghost Comment: Well I was Socialist... Comrades! Although ghosts are not in the Socialist belief, I'm dead! Oh well!

Angel Comment: Game information is supposed to die with you. Ghost comments are only for making silly remarks. That said, I'm going to have to banish you to Hell for all eternity for your violation of the divine order.

Final Demon Comment: Again, although Angels and Demons are not Socialist ideals, well I've been promoted to a demon. Thanks Angel Perfection!

(Ok, for real, that's the last ghost-spirit comment)

Wow, our vote ties managed to get 5 people killed. That's a rarity.

Oh well, at least one of them was a mafia.

Five deaths? Wow!

Five deaths? Wow!

The Ronin rubs his hands together. Lets do it again lads :).

Screw the lot of you, and if Stylesrj's going to make anymore comments from the dead, I will report him to the mods.

Kol.7 walked around the building, wondering about affairs. Suddenly, he screamed as he split into two people.

Kol.7 was literally scared to death while being Rick-Rolled

Kol.7 is killed while attending the Fictionalia School Graduation.

Around that time, choxorn was seen arguing to tailleskangaru that Socialism, Democracy, and Monarchy were all wrong ideologies, and that a better way was needed. General Device was seen talking to himself about whether to tell Lightfang state secrets (which got out anyway), while The13thRonin and Sirtommygun were seen together trying to persuade somebody of some ideology.

It is day! Vote for lynchings!

Well, of course they're all the wrong ideas. Communism is the way to go! :cool:

I just figured out that one of us must be an anarchist.

Nineteen players. Sixteen innocents. Only innocents may have agendas. Sixteen divided three ways is fifteen and one remainder.

Henceforth I believe choxorn is the anarchist.

No, I am Communist!

:eek: Are you saying I was killed... 3 times.... this turn. Every single mafia killed me?! :lol:

I think you only died twice.

This has to be the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. The mafia killed Kol 3 times! That is super mega overkilll.

This has to be the funniest thing I have seen in a long time. The mafia killed Kol 3 times! That is super mega overkilll.

Two times. He split in two so he could be killed twice. One mafioso is dead.

"MID" Day Count
At 11:30, I will switch to NIGHT, with NO lynchings if nobody votes. I recommend people start discussions and voting.

kill fire and taillesskangaru to die.

Ronin and Taillesskangaru

NOTE: I'm even worse at this then I thought. I accidently made four Mafias rather then three, so there are three left.

To compensate the Innocents, perhaps I should do two lynching rounds? (VIEWS BY PM ONLY, to protect the Mafias)

Vote Me And Feel The Pain Brothers! :)

NOTE: I'm even worse at this then I thought. I accidently made four Mafias rather then three, so there are three left.

To compensate the Innocents, perhaps I should do two lynching rounds? (VIEWS BY PM ONLY, to protect the Mafias)I'm sure glad I'm dead and don't have to deal with this mess! :smug:

LYNCHINGS
taileskangaru was killed by leathal injection. He was INNOCENT.

Meanwhile, killfire and The13thRonin were fighting, each trying to slay the other. Stuck in Pi shot them both in the back. Judging by later evidence, killfire was MAFIA, and The13thRonin was INNOCENT.

BECAUSE I put in four Mafias instead of three by accident, there will be a second lynching round.

Yep. Weird isn't it? I was the mafia 2 times in a row. I'm amazed that I was even the mafia 2 times.

I think I made you a Mafia by accident, killfire. Anyway (yes, I'm an incompetent mod), have decided to make a second lynching round.

So another day? By the way, lethal has no A before the TH.

Umm... Did anybody graduate from school recently? It looks like nobody has a rick-roll in their sig, so no leads there...

I DECLARE THIS DEAD DUE TO MODERATOR INCOMPETENCE

I believe Stylesrj wanted to start a new Mafia game?

Shotgun! Hold on, I'll go generate one!
Although as a Mafia n00b, I might need a bit of help. I'll see what I can do though, muhahahahaha!

Alright, so who won? And who were the mafia?

Oh, wait, right, I was one of them. :p

Nobody won, as the game was dead due to Mod incompetence as I said. The Mafia were choxorn, D'Artagan59, Tasslehoff, and killfire. By the end, the Monarchist agenda was weakened and the Socialists near-exterminated, so Democratic was of the agendas most likely to win.

My clue was true.

Way back when I started, I hosted a training day SGOTM as the French. Bede was the trainer.