View Full Version : Will the DS version be worth it?


Firestorm94
Jun 23, 2008, 09:15 PM
I'm wondering, should i get Civ Rev DS, it seems ok, but i don't want to throw money away. any1?

lutzj
Jun 23, 2008, 09:45 PM
Yes, you should get it. Thread done.

holiday_hawk
Jun 23, 2008, 10:11 PM
I think it will, it probably won't be as good as a consul version but if you look at games like Advance Wars, Pokemon, Dragon Warrior Monsters, etc. they prove that you can still get a hell of a good game out of a little game boy.

fishlore
Jun 24, 2008, 07:27 AM
Can't speak for anyone else, but it's a must buy for me. I have a PS3, but the sole purpose of Rev, in my eyes at least, is being able to finally play Civ on the go, anywhere in the world I happen to be. I've never been a graphics whore and that's really the only true difference for the DS version.

Viper7
Jun 24, 2008, 07:57 AM
Theres really nothing all that wrong in the main base of civilization revolution. So if its identical on how the console versions work and graphics arent all that important (why did you buy ds if it were :confused:)
I think that version of civ rev will be great.

allunderheaven
Jun 24, 2008, 11:56 AM
The whole point of CivRev for me is so that I can play Civ on long car rides, and I think that the graphics for the DS version would be more enjoyable on a long run.

PosSibley
Jun 25, 2008, 12:15 PM
I can't answer this poll until I know how Game of the Week, downloadable content, and the patch process go down for the DS (if it even does that :sad:).

I'll bet they are just won't happen for the DS, and if they do I don't wanna buy internet browser software, a GBA flash card, just to get maps/patches for CivRev. That would cost more than the console version :crazyeye:

I guess I could just get it for the portability, and screw additional content :confused:

marciv
Jun 25, 2008, 02:11 PM
Apparently the graphics are not too dissimilar from Civ 2, so early players should feel at home.

Copywriter
Jun 25, 2008, 04:01 PM
My kids (8-10) are DS fanatics.

They've been watching me playing Civ IV lately. I'm thinking of getting this to see if they get interested.

Okay, honestly, I'm thinking of buying a crimson DS for myself just for this game. I just got Civ IV for my laptop, but being able to play quick games on the DS in places where I don't want to bring the laptop is awesome (DMV anyone?).

:)

col
Jun 26, 2008, 09:41 AM
I love Age of Empires/Kings for the DS - a decent turn based version of AoE.
Really looking forward to Civ on the DS.
Whats not to like?

Copywriter
Jun 27, 2008, 01:52 PM
I love Age of Empires/Kings for the DS - a decent turn based version of AoE.


I've heard it's fun on the DS. I'm buying it next week I think.

dexters
Jul 01, 2008, 01:29 PM
DS version is built from the ground up for the DS, its not a port, but the designers insist (http://ds.ign.com/articles/848/848158p1.html) it uses the same game core as the 360/PS3 versions , just with a 2-D skin.

http://ds.ign.com/articles/848/848158p1.html
McCaul: Yes, that number is set in stone. There are 16 civs, and the game core is the same from DS to 360 and PS3, so you won't see many differences there. It's the presentation on DS that is where things really change. All the combat and city screens are defnitley at a different pace and cadence than the console versions.

I found this interesting bullet point on the DS Civ Rev website. Regarding 'Game of the Week' a downloadable weekly maps feature for the DS, it says:
"compete against players online as you play on the same map on the PS3 and 360"

Crezth
Jul 01, 2008, 01:46 PM
I found this interesting bullet point on the DS Civ Rev website. Regarding 'Game of the Week' a downloadable weekly maps feature for the DS, it says:
"compete against players online as you play on the same map on the PS3 and 360"

Well that's interesting. So I guess then all three versions will get the same GotW?

I figure that the DS version is worth it. Despite the inferior graphics, the game apparently plays the same way as on its console counterparts. And at any rate, graphics aren't ~entirely~ important (consider that you own a DS, so you can't put too much stake in graphics on DS games).

dexters
Jul 01, 2008, 02:01 PM
For me, a portable Civ has been a holy grail of sorts. Civ3/4 on laptop comes close, but the DS is about 1/5th the size of a small laptop so its really going to be great being albe to Civ anywhere.

dshirk
Jul 01, 2008, 08:02 PM
Small clarification for those of you who are confused.

The DS gets the EXACT same game of the week situation every week as the consoles, but the DS is not ranked (no leaderboards).

And yes, it is running the same game core as the larger Consoles, only with a different presentation layer. :)

dexters
Jul 02, 2008, 02:16 AM
Small clarification for those of you who are confused.

The DS gets the EXACT same game of the week situation every week as the consoles, but the DS is not ranked (no leaderboards).

And yes, it is running the same game core as the larger Consoles, only with a different presentation layer. :)
That's fantastic!

Quick question. Why happened to the Wii version?

I heard rumours that the Wii was not powerful enough to run it, but if you guys got it working on the DS, it must be something else!

And will we ever see one for Wii?

Eio
Jul 06, 2008, 12:25 PM
Quick question. Why happened to the Wii version?


They ran out of resources. CivRev was developed in house and Firaxis didn't have enough man power to devote resources to 4 versions at the same time. They also didn't want to farm the game out so it was "delayed".

If the game is successful on the first 3 platforms I hope it will see a Wii release.

dojoboy
Jul 06, 2008, 04:42 PM
Small clarification for those of you who are confused.

The DS gets the EXACT same game of the week situation every week as the consoles, but the DS is not ranked (no leaderboards).


And, in the GotW, a DS player may choose any civ to play, unlike the XBOX360 and PS3 versions. They're locked into a Civ, because they have a leaderboard.

Also:

(1) There is no way to patch the DS version, other than producing a patched cartridge. So, those of us in North America should feel grateful on the month delay in release dates. Hopefully, the Euros did a nice job beta testing it for us.

(2) Note: the following item is conjecture. Downloadable content on the DS cannot be saved. If it could, then there would be possibilities to patch it. So, the GotW will have to be played straight through without turning off the system. I imagine there will be nights my DS remains plugged-in overnight.

(3) And, DS players will have no option to upload their GotW save. They will just have to recall their performance when they compare scores. Perhaps though, a dedicated DS GotW thread will get started here.

electric926
Jul 06, 2008, 05:30 PM
I'd rather not get the DS version. The DS Graphics are awful and gameplay with it is severely limited. I'm scared to see what Civ will look like on a DS. If given the choice, get it for the Xbox or PS3, but not the DS.

dojoboy
Jul 06, 2008, 06:41 PM
I'd rather not get the DS version. The DS Graphics are awful and gameplay with it is severely limited. I'm scared to see what Civ will look like on a DS. If given the choice, get it for the Xbox or PS3, but not the DS.

I'm certainly pleased with the chance to get CivRev for my DS. I'll be picking up my reserved copy on Wednesday. :D

Gameplay is not limited on the DS. That's the point Firaxis has been trying to make, it's the same gamecore. Only the graphics, and GotW features, are different.

Anyone with a console and a DS should buy both, if they're a "true-blue," "worth-their-salt" kind of Civ guy. ;)

Pigmerikan Mao
Jul 06, 2008, 07:14 PM
on a road trip I could see it coming in handy, yes

dojoboy
Jul 06, 2008, 07:57 PM
on a road trip I could see it coming in handy, yes

And, sitting in the den, laying in bed, relaxing on the deck, etc. ;)

emusan
Jul 06, 2008, 09:10 PM
(2) Note: the following item is conjecture. Downloadable content on the DS cannot be saved. If it could, then there would be possibilities to patch it. So, the GotW will have to be played straight through without turning off the system. I imagine there will be nights my DS remains plugged-in overnight.

Actually, there is a small area on every ds cartridge that allows for save data (hence the reason that you can save your game in almost every ds game). Its also just enough to store some downloadable content like maps, you just might have to keep about 5 at a time. However you are right in stating that you can't patch a ds game, due to the fact that the area for saves and the area for game "ROM's" are completely different chips, one is writable, one isn't.

Pigmerikan Mao
Jul 06, 2008, 10:22 PM
And, sitting in the den, laying in bed, relaxing on the deck, etc. ;)

well yes, of course- silly me, i forgot all of those :)

Firestorm94
Jul 09, 2008, 01:57 AM
i guess ill buy it then:king:

davhey1
Jul 09, 2008, 08:19 AM
I'm getting the 360 and DS versions, but if I could only get one it would be the DS version. Portable CIV? Yes please.

mikester
Jul 09, 2008, 09:36 AM
I think the DS version makes even more sense than the console versions. If I'm at home and want to play Civ, I'll just get on the computer and play the real deal. Being able to play Civ anywhere on the DS - that's going to be schweeeeet! I'm picking up my copy in about 2 hours, and I brought my DS to work with me. So much for having a productive afternoon. :D

KING KRAZEROK
Jul 09, 2008, 10:03 AM
My kids (8-10) are DS fanatics.

They've been watching me playing Civ IV lately. I'm thinking of getting this to see if they get interested.

Okay, honestly, I'm thinking of buying a crimson DS for myself just for this game. I just got Civ IV for my laptop, but being able to play quick games on the DS in places where I don't want to bring the laptop is awesome (DMV anyone?).

:)

Same here. My gamer kids are 4, 8 and 12 and I had to buy another DS for my wife bc they took over both of ours. My 8-yr-old son has sat next to me for some of my long runs on CivIV and has asked a lot of questions about the game. He also showed an interest in the CivRev demo for the 360 so I'm picking him a DS copy for his b-day when I pick up mine. I'll try to play his when he is sleeping!

MonRiverMonarch
Jul 09, 2008, 02:08 PM
Why couldn't they put out a PSP version? I know, I'm only one of about 10 people who have PSP....but still...I could quit playing baseball and play civ instead. How hard could it be to whip a PSP version? That's it, I'm getting the other 9 people who have PSP to petition Sid

XxtraLarGe
Jul 09, 2008, 04:14 PM
Take a look at the flip side of the game cover for a little added Civ Rev bonus artwork. I haven't seen this done with any other DS title :)

shadowplay
Jul 09, 2008, 04:14 PM
After playing the Xbox360 version, I'm hoping the DS version will offer some redemption for this game, as you wouldn't expect the best graphics on a hand-held anyways.

I find the colour-wash nauseating on the xbox.

Copywriter
Jul 09, 2008, 04:59 PM
Why couldn't they put out a PSP version? I know, I'm only one of about 10 people who have PSP....but still...I could quit playing baseball and play civ instead. How hard could it be to whip a PSP version? That's it, I'm getting the other 9 people who have PSP to petition Sid

I have a PSP (launch day), but I don't play it. I just got a DS recently (thanks Civ grrr). Anyway, I have 15 titles already and love it.

I'm thinking the PSP version wouldn't be too hard. However, there may not be any profit in it (according to their financial models).

dk1421
Jul 09, 2008, 05:44 PM
We just bought a Gameboy for my son instead of a DS. The reason being that he's only 6 and that we can get the games cheap!

However....now that Civ is out for DS.....I'm really thinking that I want a DS with Civ for my birthday. We do a LOT of traveling, when gas isn't horrible, so it's perfect for me.

SO... what I want is for people to post here AFTER playing Civ on the DS and tell me how it is! Especially compared to the Xbox version.

Man... I'm out of town now... maybe I should just go and pick one up for the flight home....

dojoboy
Jul 09, 2008, 06:20 PM
Some where I had commented that DS GotW files could not be saved, or I had alluded to it. Let me just say, I was wrong. :blush:

Bending Unit
Jul 09, 2008, 06:21 PM
Well, I haven't played the 360 version yet, though I have it and the next time I can get in front of my Xbox it's being played.

However, I did just win a Domination Victory in the DS version. It's very fun. It's pretty much just what all the websites are describing it as: a very streamlined version of Civ. I had to get used to it to be honest, but it still feels very much like a Civ game. Totally worth it (in fact, I bought a DS for it myself).

Looking forward to playing the 360 version tomorrow, but at least I have a portable version to hold me over til then.

Copywriter
Jul 09, 2008, 07:25 PM
I wonder how many DS units were sold because of Civ: Rev. :D

emusan
Jul 09, 2008, 07:34 PM
I wonder how many DS units were sold because of Civ: Rev. :D
from the looks of this topic, at least two, and the game just came out today.

I just got the game now, will post when I'm done playing around a little :) might have to wait until tomorrow for that though, its late.

XxtraLarGe
Jul 09, 2008, 08:34 PM
from the looks of this topic, at least two, and the game just came out today.

I just got the game now, will post when I'm done playing around a little :) might have to wait until tomorrow for that though, its late.

Make that 3. I can honestly say if it weren't for Civ Rev, I would not have bought a Nintendo DS.

By the way, did you guys see the art on the inside cover yet? (Napoleon Poster :))

Copywriter
Jul 10, 2008, 12:56 AM
I was thinking of buying a DS for some time. Soon as I played the Civ Rev demo on the PS3 and saw it was coming to the DS, I bought one.

I haven't opened mine yet (no darn time :( ).

V. Soma
Jul 10, 2008, 02:35 AM
Guess I will buy a DS, just for this :)

Warrior of Wales
Jul 10, 2008, 03:29 AM
Ha sanyone managed to buy the DS version in Britain yet? Amazon.uk and Play.com are still quoting 29th August as the release date:mad:

Anyone in Euope having the same problem?

I see that it's available across the pond though.

Mivo
Jul 10, 2008, 04:23 AM
Yes, the European release date is August 28/29. For DS games, that's pretty close to the US release, really. Normally it takes longer than just six weeks.

Well, I played the game for a bit today. It really is simplified quite a bit and seems focused on warfare mostly. The graphics are pretty decent for DS standards. Not played enough for a real impression, but so far it's decent for what it is meant to be. Not a replacement to the PC Civs, though -- not even close.

dojoboy
Jul 10, 2008, 06:09 AM
Make that 3. I can honestly say if it weren't for Civ Rev, I would not have bought a Nintendo DS.

By the way, did you guys see the art on the inside cover yet? (Napoleon Poster :))

I bought my DS in January, because CivRev was coming out. I've enjoyed some really good DS games since then.

shadowplay
Jul 10, 2008, 11:27 AM
For me, a portable Civ has been a holy grail of sorts. Civ3/4 on laptop comes close, but the DS is about 1/5th the size of a small laptop so its really going to be great being albe to Civ anywhere.

Preach it, brother! Amen!

(1) There is no way to patch the DS version, other than producing a patched cartridge. So, those of us in North America should feel grateful on the month delay in release dates. Hopefully, the Euros did a nice job beta testing it for us.

True enough for Ps3 and Xbox360, but I don't believe the DS version is out in Europe yet. I was hearing end of August.

Capt Ajax
Jul 10, 2008, 02:00 PM
I got it yesterday and played for a few hours last night as the Aztecs. It was really great for a DS title. No complaints so far. I mean.....it is a hand held so you can only expect so much.

dexters
Jul 10, 2008, 08:09 PM
Whats amazing is they kept pretty much the game the same as the console versions.

A few things are missing here and there and the graphics are 2-D instead of 3-D but its the same game!

shadowplay
Jul 11, 2008, 01:10 AM
I wish the map wasn't so blurry on the DS version.

Cornstalk
Jul 11, 2008, 03:37 AM
My wife adores Civ on the DS. She's been playing it constantly.

I find it to be a poorly made slap in the face.

Luck of the dice is intolerable and enraging in revolution. Combat wise it's like a painful return to Civ 2 with a Phalanx killing a Battleship. As far as the early parts of the game... goodie hut/barbarian camp gobbling is ridiculous. You can have such an extreme amount of good luck early on (especially if you know how to abuse it) that you can have legion armies knocking on your opponent's doors when they've barely had enough time to spit out an archer.

If I wanted that much random factor butting in to the game play, I'd go back to Mario Kart on the Wii... Yeah, I went there. :\

It's Civ... sort of. It's fun... sort of. Just like cheap beer. Somehow I'm always left with a bad taste in my mouth and an upset stomach no matter how well the party went.

a space oddity
Jul 11, 2008, 03:47 AM
[...]
Also:

(1) There is no way to patch the DS version, other than producing a patched cartridge. So, those of us in North America should feel grateful on the month delay in release dates. Hopefully, the Euros did a nice job beta testing it for us.


We'll be getting the DS version end of August, so the actual situation is reversed. :D

dojoboy
Jul 11, 2008, 06:09 AM
My wife adores Civ on the DS. She's been playing it constantly.

I find it to be a poorly made slap in the face.

Luck of the dice is intolerable and enraging in revolution. Combat wise it's like a painful return to Civ 2 with a Phalanx killing a Battleship. As far as the early parts of the game... goodie hut/barbarian camp gobbling is ridiculous. You can have such an extreme amount of good luck early on (especially if you know how to abuse it) that you can have legion armies knocking on your opponent's doors when they've barely had enough time to spit out an archer.

If I wanted that much random factor butting in to the game play, I'd go back to Mario Kart on the Wii... Yeah, I went there. :\

It's Civ... sort of. It's fun... sort of. Just like cheap beer. Somehow I'm always left with a bad taste in my mouth and an upset stomach no matter how well the party went.

I think once the bulk of us move up in difficulty after some test games, this may not be as prevalent. Those huts & barbs are designed to force the player to explore (And, when playing against a human-controlled Mongol civ, you better go get them first!). The 3 ancient artifacts play the same role, but I think they're found to easily. You meet a hut or capture a barb cap, and they tell you about an ancient civ and then it's location is shown to you. Hm, that's a bit too much information.

XxtraLarGe
Jul 11, 2008, 02:28 PM
I think once the bulk of us move up in difficulty after some test games, this may not be as prevalent. Those huts & barbs are designed to force the player to explore (And, when playing against a human-controlled Mongol civ, you better go get them first!). The 3 ancient artifacts play the same role, but I think they're found to easily. You meet a hut or capture a barb cap, and they tell you about an ancient civ and then it's location is shown to you. Hm, that's a bit too much information.

I got messages about the ancient civs being unfound until I found a hut that was close to the artifacts, then they were revealed.

Mivo
Jul 11, 2008, 03:02 PM
Well, I played some more, and I'm unhappy with the AIs. Totally war-centric, and apparently only hostile towards the players, so, all AIs against the human. I guess you could circumvent this by playing against humans only per wifi, but Civ Rev is something I'd play when I'm not around my computer (and router), so good AIs would be helpful. I'm probably spoiled by the Civ4 AIs, though. For a DS game it's still well done, but there are precious few DS games that I really enjoyed (AW, Anno, Clubhouse Games, Puzzle Quest, FF3).

It's better than nothing, but for mobile Civ it may be better to buy one of those sub-laptops (Acer Aspire One for example) and put Civ 1-3 on it. Sure, larger than a DS, and twice as expensive, but still fairly small and light (less than two pounds / one kg).

dojoboy
Jul 11, 2008, 03:09 PM
Well, I played some more, and I'm unhappy with the AIs. Totally war-centric, and apparently only hostile towards the players, so, all AIs against the human.


I'm not pleased with this either, reminds me of Civ2. However, I'm rather enjoying my current game, has me on edge a bit.