:nuke: :egypt: :nuke:

FINAL VERSION!
NOW YOU CAN PLAY AS ANY NATION YOU WANT (NEUTRAL NATIONS NOT RECOMENDED)
WELL WAHT CAN I SAY, IT IS THE FINAL THING, WELL THE TECHNOLOGIES MIGHT NOT BE 100% WHAT U MAY WANT, BUT IT WAS BETWEEN THAT OR BEING ABLE TO PLAY ALL CIVS.
I HOPE YOU ENJOY IT, AND IF YOU WANT TO EDIT IT AND POST IT, PLEASE E-MAIL ME AND CONTACT ME

***MARLA'S SINGERS WORLD MAP WAS USED W/ PERMISION
remember to annalyse the map on the first turn and to get contact and create embasys w/ everyone, so use those explorers in that island
SUNDAY JULY 28 2002 CENTRAL TIME :king: :scan:
REMEMBER TO COME BACK AND TELL ME WHAT U THINK ^_^:D

ALSO TRY MY ww2 EUROPEAN FRONT SCENARIO!
and if u think u are a GREAT player and the computer is simply not a challange.........try my other scenario "the campain":slay:

I"m going to download it now, is it v1.29f or v1.21f?

the map is v1.29f, sorry, i forgot to post that

all scenarios are 1.29f

just a few suggestions.

1-use all the space on the map for sumone (anyone just use it)

2-put sum sort of protection in all the major cities to begin with!!

3-maybe you could put sum ships or sumthin around people so that everyone would be able to contact eachother (one type of unit from everyone on everyones border)

4-shouldnt the europeans have canada as its in many ways part of Britain.

5-we already have smart weapons and so do the europeans as well as every other significant nation in the world

6-The arabs should be able to defend themselves!!

7-Africa should be its own undevelped country (see wut Paul Saunders did with them in this real world mod)

8-why is it that Russia only seems to own less than half its own territory??

9-did some sort of massive ocean storm come through the world and wipe out all the navies??

10-Berlin is too far South

Some Kudos...

1-I love the music (while i dont personally listen to anything similar it goes great with the atmosphere of the game (you should consider putting together a mod that would make it so that those songs are played in the normal game too!!))

2-overall its entertaining though inaccurate


Fix those probs you might be on to sumthin!!!!

this goes for Bobs lee sugestions:

1.i cant use all map, it would be hard to take every city and it would really slow the game down, i jsut used the main cities.

2.i didnt put any protection because the player must decide what kind of units he wants

3.u got me on this one, i will do that later

4.canada is not part of the european union

5. u got me on this one too

6. i did put some tanks for the arabs, but i concentrated them around iraq and iran

7. i did put some african cities, but again it would take a lont time to take every city..........well maybe a couple in south and central africa wont do bad

8.well if you notice russia has virtually no major cities in siberia

9. again i let the player chose its units

10.

i realize ur tryin to let the player decide on all those but none the less there should be units tere to begin with for accuracy purposes.

As to Siberia.....while they dont have any major cities they should still aoccupy the area....maybe designate all the tiles over there to them sumhow........i also just checked sum maps and you didnt invlude Novosibirsk or irkutsk.....you could also give them areas in all those smaller nations to the south of them, sum cities there would include Alma-Ata, Bishek, Tashkent, Dushanbe, Ashkhabad, Yerevan, Tblisi, Baku

As to the Arabs.......i realize y u put units there but Turky is also fairly advanced and does have a military.....on mine in the first turn i captured virtually everything in the middle east.

As to the map......it really needs sum fillin if only with roads and such.

As to Canada.......if ur not gonna give it to the european union then give it to the US...it has sum strong trade ties there

BTW...Berlin should be bout one tile to the north

one more point................As to it bein really hard to take every city in the world, no kiddin but thats wuts fun bout it.

mmmmh........u are right bobby lee, but i dont know how to take the scenarion out so people stop downloading it while i change the other one

hey theres a reason y i dont do my own scens u know.........maybe you could edit leave the one up there and put it in by editing that post or puttin it in a whole new post in this thread.

i know, but i am doing it so i can send it to infogrames so in a almost imposible hope it goes in the play the world add-on, thats why i post it here to get people to tell me what to change, well ill change it a lot now, well i gtg now to make it better, and oh i put a big notice on it for people not to download it

DON'T DOWNLOAD THIS SCENARIO RIGHT NOW

was that big enough??

anyways~~~~~

im glad ur deciden to redo it cause that needed to be fixxed....i hope it works out for ya with Firaxis, that is a tall task.

well there is the new one Bobby lee,

kool ill check it and get back to ya on it

I have one HUGE suggestion, make EVERY CIV PLAYABLE ! :p

I would love to play this scenario from all of the Civs so do you think you could allow it please :D

thanku!

being able to play every civilization? mmmh........it would be posible, ive done, but i have to make big changes since some nations like japan and india are small and would be hard to work w/, mmmh..........but maybe.................

actually thats a pretty good idea esp. if you want firaxis to take it..............i tried the new one last night, its awsome but with one defect...............theres still alot of land unused and unclaimed.

well...........where should i put more cities? and how can i make sure that all 8 nations are balanced if i let it be able to play any civilization they want?

Just one small compaint---I like it, but this kind of got rid of the WWIII feeling---why can't I see the entire world? In real life, and definetly in the future, everyone has maps of everyone else's land, and such, and I thought this was kind of annoying. The first goal is to find oil, and I can't even see it!

I like it though, it was a great idea!

cgannon64, i know, but there is no way in the Edit program thing to allow u to see all the map, is not like civilization 2 where the apollo program gave u the whole map, well in this version 2.0 i put a cuple of explorers in america and asia, so when u start the game u can start communications and u can trade maps, it is the only way

Why is Washington DC larger than Tokyo?

im not sure exactly wut u should use to fill up the map........

Do u have an atlas at home?? If u do then look through it and pick out the largest towns in the uninhabited regions and use them.

As to balanceing the game out......

I had a talk with an anonymous consultant last night and i found out that Turkey while they dont actually have the technology to build thier own modern weapons they do buy them so you could give them a few modern tanks and mech infantry......Russia probably has the tchnology that we do........China makes up for it doesnt have in tech (and its not that far behind us) with mass...........America (kinda self explanatory dont ya think)............Nuetral (oh by the way, nice touch) they buy thier stuff too im sure.........if you have the Africans in there they dont need to have any modern techs and for that matter maybe not even industrial techs but give them a very small amount of either later industrial or very very early modern.

Oh and i thought of one more thing to add.........Cruise Missiles.......give those to Europe, Russia, USA, China, Maybe one or two to Middle East.

Great job.......Keep it up

PS-as to the un revealed map thing, if ur turnin it into Firaxis im sure they're gonna edit and tweak a few things for all the scens, so wut u can do is send it with a list or sumthin of things u couldnt do for them to do.(i could be way out in left field on this, but i bet they'll fix it)

it is a great map (great enough for me) but you dont have to make all the civ balance: some civ can be hard enough for a challenge

suggestion:

can you please populate most of the land except desert, jungle and tundra? (well it is nice to see some unoccupied land)

can you please give at least 1 defender for each town and 2 for city 3 for metro?

categorize civ as follow . . .
USA + canada = NorthAmerica
Mexico + alll south america = south america
EU = EU
russia = russia
china + north korea = china
japan + south korea = japan (well this is not that accurate because korean dont really like japan/usa/china...)
south east asia = AESAN (ASEAN?)
Austriallia + Newzealand = Austriallia
Arab = as it is
Africa = Africa
(did I leave any?)

put some fortress in roads

diable settler (I don't like that computer build a city everywhere even it is just tundra area or in middle of desert) or make it cost like 1000 shield 20 populatoin (also this will make colony more important)

also, put the explorer of all nation into a island (or greenland) so they will have contact immediately.

great work :) keep working! (i like this)

tahnks for yall re-plys, i am planing to put more cities in oceania, asia africa and south america, and thats it for cities, i kind of got tired of making them :P, well as for elty those categories look nice, but i dont want more than 8 civilizations in it, i think i also did took the settler off...........did i? oh ill make sure i do that thing of an explorer in one place for every country.
as for bobby lee, russia has modern tanks, and china has lots of tanks and soldiers (not the too modern kind tough), and about turkey i think those tanks are ok, maybe ill put a couple more mech infantry tough, well keep the sugestions comming, ill finish version 3.0 by monday or tuesday at most ^_^

kool, sounds like you've got the right idea.........Cant wait to try v 1.3

ok people, this is what i have done, i have added :
5 cities in south america, 3 in africa, 3 in pacific, 1 in asia ( i dont want to keep putting more cities, i am not building more cities in siberia, sahara, the amazon, or places like that, but if i find a suitable place where there is a major city i will.
i have also make sure that all civilizations cannot build old units like warriors or or archers, and have set the worlds technologies o a better level, and i dont think i can make it posible to choce any civilization to play w/, it will be too complicated.........i think the europeans are ok.....mmmh.........but ill keep in mind that in any other possible scenarios, and i have put an explorer of every civilization in an island so contact is assured ^_^ tahnks elty :P

Version 3.0 is here ^_^ so try it.

sounds good ill try it right away

i would say, if your making all the civs playable, DONT make Japan or India bigger/better. Leave them, so for those that want a real challenge, they can play those Civs!

The Oil idea is GREAT, although I would make it slighty harder to defeat the Arabs and take control of the world's oil supply!

Great Scenario, and if you can make all the Civs playable I would expect to see it in PtW :)

-docceh

docceh, i already made it more hard to take over the arabs, try teh new version ^_^, mmmh.......u are convinsing me, maybe i should able anyone to choose the civilization, ill do it for the final version.

yea let everyone play everybody....it's oone of the ony improvements i can think of (well other than fillin the map, but you already said you weren't gonna so...ok)

I just tried it out.......jese it is alot harder to beat the arabs. Maybe too hard.....oh well i feel it's probably very accurate.

GREAT JOB!!!

(you should consider making an aftermath thing based on how you envision it to turn out.......wouldn't be that hard as all you have to do is change a few cities possession, destroy a few, destroy several units and make some more for sum...........JUST A THOUGHT (i'd enjoy it i know))

i cant find a way to allow the player to chose its civilization! ill give tht EU more units to be easier to take the arabs out, for the final version.

not too many though it's probably pretty accurate as it is.........check the arabs tech level.......i think that they're buildin thier own mech infantry but they shouldn't be able to, i can almost prove that they're draftin them.

no boby lee, they cant build it, is the few they had after they "bought them" from russsia or china, to add to raellism

docceh, it wont work, i tried to make it so u can choose any civ, at first it did worked, but when u started, lets say u choosed china, but ended up controling europe not china, so i guess it wont work, so lets jsut leave it like that k?

I know how you can change it so china doesn't end up in europe. Know the target circles for where the civs start? assign those to a player, and then go into player stats or something (you'll find it) and set a civilization to a player number, i.e. America is player one, germany is player 2. If that doesn't work, then i don't know what will.

thanks civanator, but Docceh, thinks he already figured it out

World war 3 and no Israel?
Sorry, that won't cut it ;)

I added Tel-Aviv with a few ICBM's (Israel has about 200-400 armed nuclear warheads), 3 modern armour (Israel has about 5000 modern tanks, more than Germany and Britain put together), one AEGIS to represent the entire Israeli navy and 1 marine to represent the IDF.

And it is an American division.

Originally posted by Civanator
I know how you can change it so china doesn't end up in europe. Know the target circles for where the civs start? assign those to a player, and then go into player stats or something (you'll find it) and set a civilization to a player number, i.e. America is player one, germany is player 2. If that doesn't work, then i don't know what will.

Thats who it is done currently, however since you must assign a human player, you can only assign the human to one civ in the editor, thus, only one civ can be played.

IceBlaZe i was thinking of that, but i cant put israel as one nation, maybe as part of the neutral nations, but htat wont work, so if u like ur own individual version i guess is ok, but dont post the entire thing as ur own k?

Don't worry

well i have good news, after a loooooong while, now it is posible to chose any civilization u want (neutral nations not recomended)
but i have to put all the units again, but thats kind of fast, also i was thinking of waht Iceblade told me about putting israel on the map, but i cant add more civilizations than 8, cant add it to the EU and much much less to the arab nations, sould i add it to the neutral nations?

Add it to the united states.

yea add it to the US (they basically keep israel on tha map anyway so y not)

(no offence to anyone)

was it what i suggested that worked stalin??

if so, phew! this scenario really does deserve PtW status!

and adding israel to the US would make a nice game-balancing feature IMHO.

well ill add Israel to the united states, mmmh........what city should i put ot represent israel? jerusalem? also i will add tactical nukes to india since they too have nuclear weapons, and put a city to represent north korea and put it in chinas side, well any more ideas?

Tel-Aviv should represent Israel, since it is the most advanced city in Israel.

Jerusalem doesn't have an airport or a harbour or anything, it is a more religious city and half of it is palestinian anyway (East Jerusalem).

Can ya add Yerevan? Theres an empty spot towards the east of turkey and Yerevan would be nice there. its the capitol of armenia and armenia is part of the Europian Union. Nice job by the way.

armenia part of the European Union......? well i thik it would fit better w/ the russian federation, i need to be sure if thats true first, well iceblaze ill put Tel-aviv, i also added ho Chi min city (spelled right?) 2 cities in new zeland and a couple other cities.i am now done putting units on the EU and the russian federation. so keep those ideas comming, the final version is almost done ^_^

Civ choosing works so expect the final version to be THE mod.... and look out for it in Play The World ;)


-docceh

^_^ well someone please tell me the names of the leaders of china and japan, i really need them

BTW, Stalin006, You need to add small useless cities for every empire and give them a decent quality of culture, and also increase the culture of all of the current cities in a way that will represent todays borders.
That way if someone settles in the middle of empty space in the US or in South America it will be a decleration of war, just like it should be today.

If you don't want to do it, I'll do it when you finish the mod as an alternative version with borders. I would be delighted to do so.

Also, don't forget to include 4 Modern Armous (To represent 4000 Israeli tanks), 1 ICBM and 1 Tactical Nuke (to represent 200 nuclear war heads) and 1 AEGIS cruiser and one cruise missile (To represent the navy and the missile system) + 1 F-15 (to represent the Air force) to Tel-Aviv.

All of those units should fairly represent Israel, at least according to the current version.
If you are going to increase all of the units fairly increase them in the case of Tel-Aviv.

Cheers

iceblaze, dont worry about borders, since settlers are not allowed, so u dont have to worry about the AI building them everywehre like crazy, in tel-aviv i didnt added any ICBMs, but i put two tactical nukes (russia has only 3 ICBMs, so u can see that each ICBM represents a lot more and a tactical nuke represent like 200 nuclear warheads, i did put the AEGIES cruiser, and since is part of the US, i also added a carrier w/ stealth bombers, tel-aviv itself is protected by f-15s marines modern armor and mech infantry.
i have also adde a city in scottland, i am almost finished, i just need to put units to defend the neutral nations and i have to do testing, almost done.

final version is done!, now to do some testing anything i should add?

FINAL VERSION FINISHED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
AFTER HOURS AND HOURS IS FINALY DONE! THANKS TO ALL WHO HELPED.

I could say that if there was a war Britain would more likely be with the USA than Europe, why not put Britain on its own like Japan? Much more realistic then.

it might and it might not....i feel it would side with europe 1st due to it's trade ties there

if you feel the need to add cities in siberia and other empty places (like i've been saying you should do) then you don't have to use city names in places where there are no major cities.......like in Siberia you could have the Siberian plain as a city and other sorts of things like that all over the map

well Impresa japan is totaly different, britans ties w/ europe are growing a lot this days w/ europe, and the scenario is set in 4 years.

I dont think you understand. The people in Britain want to be independent from the USA and Europe. Politically we have strong ties with the USA and economically with Europe. I think that we will never be with Europe, culturally we are almost a world away.

that is true......... but giving it to the US might unbalance the game

Can they not be independent? I got an idea....... how about commonwealth hmmmmm actually, could it just be independent we are a pretty strong country.

england independent? but that would mess up the power balance, the EU is creating an idependent military machine from nato, and the UK is in it, also the british govt. is thinking of switching to the euro currency, so maybe in 4 years it wont be so far, and this is a scenario, please understand that if i had done taht people would come to me asking me to make south africa a new civ, etc. well i did tought of what u told me, but i am thinking of making of adifferent scenario where england is independent, and canada and australia is w/ it to even it out, waht do u think?

mmmh.......

sounds good.......

(btw, i checked out luiz's scen that was based on yours, u two should do some colaboration use his edited map and ur ability for game balance and i think that the scen could be as close to perfect as you could get it)

also...... i still think usein region names for cities could work well

black africa......? nice name, ill leave him alone, its mostly my scenario anyways, Impreaza, i got something for u

well ill let luiz alone, i dont want to interfer w/ his ideas :)

Wow, thanks, let me just say i am very grateful, oh yeah, about Europe and Britain, there will be rapid reaction force, ok? And stuff like that, well thats what they want, but the thing is the political climate is so intense in the UK, plus most people want to keep the pound so much that if there was a referendom on the euro they would vote against it and plus the conservatives could regain power as they are anti euro. But Britain and Europe is nothing more than a dream at the moment.

So whats this new scenario gonna be like? Would it be like a Victorian era thing with Empires? ( oh yeah just something i been reading, at the turn of 20th century German ships and American ships were at a stand off in samoa in a shipsrights dispute, they were ready for war etc, the Kaiser even had drawn up plans to invade the USA, but by luck in Samoa a typhoon raged and sunk all American and German ships leaving a British ship which was watching this standoff the only one to survive. www.militaryhistory.com . I figured i would say this cos a lot of u are American hehe. cya then

sounds kool

well now i might start a imperial era scenario, like on the victorian era, mmmh...........

waht i am thinking of! i cant do taht sceanrio!, iwill take me days to do the pure research only, impreza, i thin ill do a ww2 scenario instead, cuz i dont know anything about that victorian era topic, i would do it, but i dont have the time since is only two weeks b4 school plus i think ill wait till the play the world expansion where more units and options are added k? it will be close to the other one, since UK had lots of colonies, an di know lots about WW2

Could you post some screenshots please?

of teh WW3 scenario? well i cant, just download it and play as teh european union and ull see

ok

Hmmmmmmm, i still wanna make some, that time era catches my imagination. I will start work soon.

u can work on urs, i can help u if u need any help. i started on a world war two european map, and i am making it so all of europes borders are set.

If u can help me it would be great. Right im basing it in the 1880s, i have already started and i got most of the cities up with good borders etc. It is on Kittens map which is huge, civs which are included are Ottomans, Austro Hungarians, Portugese, Spanish, Mexico, Britain, France, Germans, Chinese, Japanese, Danish and Russians, i dunno whether to add anymore civs. But it is great, i will need ur help Stalin please.

Still a lot of work to do, i have done every city except for European powers overseas empires which i will start on soon. This will be a very good standard for a mod. I also welcome any leaderhoods for civs i have mentioned in it then.

ok, well i alread y e-mailed u w/ hints

Rather than posting comments in advance I just decided to play. Had some good fun on Monarch :goodjob: :goodjob:

First how it went:
- Took all of the arab nations first, in just 3 turns iirc.
- Took India in turn 4
- Took all of Africa and the remaining Asian neutral cities in turn 5 and 6
- With all strategical resources secure I build some more Armor to take out Russia.
- Took Kursk, St. Petersburg, Moskou, Volgograd and Novgogrod (not sure about the last name) in turn 1 of the attack on Russia.
- Took Kivgorod in turn 2 and Irkutsk and Wladiwostok in turn 3.
- With that USA, Neutrals and Japan left. Still no nukes fired.
- Build 5 transports and loaded them with Armor and Mechs to sail to the St. Lawrence Seaway.
- Landed all troups and took NY and DC in turn 1 of the USA attack. Airlifted as much units as possible to NY and DC.
- Took Miami, New Orleans, Chicago, San Antonio in turn 3.
- Took Vegas, LA and Frisco in turn 5.
- Took Alaska in turn 6 and 7.
- Immed started to attack Mexico and Japan after conquest of the USA.
- Main focus on Mexico and South America where a lot of troops had to be taken out in Mexico, from there it was just advancement dictated by the terrain.
- Was more careful with Japan, yet took that with ease as well, sailing troops from Wladiwostok to Sapporo.
- Once Puerto Mont acquired it was just a matter of sailing / protecting loaded transports to Australia / New Zealand and finish the job there.
- Final city was Manila, occupied by Japan.

Had a good time, yet some observations:
- Iceland with its explorers are a good solution to open diplo.
- Don't have to bother about city building. AI however does not seem to understand they can not rebuild cities they have destroyed.
- Europe has an excellent opening position.
- Where is China? Thought this to be a major opponent in a world war!
- Only had to plan for opposition 2 times. Once between turn 1 and 2 of the Russian attack and once after the invasion of Mexico. Rest of the time resistance was rather futile with the AI most of the time just having Riflemen or Infantry. Mechs were a rare occasion as were Modern Armor.
- The initial Blitz through Asia and Africa before attacking Russia is almost to easy.
- For some reason the Neutrals made little use of all the Rubber in South America.
- All railroads in place make Blitz a good option, yet are a disadvantage for defenders.
- Airports make transportation of forces between continents easy, probably to easy.

All in all, ok scenario that can be improved imho by adding the Chinese, creating some more opposition, and helping the AI with acces to critical resources. For the Russians, one or two central Asian cities would be nice (Alma Ata and Tasjkent for example) and a Caucasian city like Baku.

With all respect for the hard work creating the scenario!

wow, noone told me they had acctually finished it b4, well i did put china in my final version, well i just posted a WW2 european scenario, if u liked this one, maybe ull like playing that one too

While Im no newbie to Civ games I am a newb at mods for them, I downloaded this WW3 scenerio and the other version from someone else, I put the bic files into the scenerio folder in the CIV3 folder and when I try to load em up I get a cant load, file is corrupt error. Anyone know what gives?

probably u dont have the newest patch 1.29, try that, all scenarios need that

I just bought the game and updated it right away, I guess the new patch came out right afterwards. Thx :goodjob:

another happy friend^_^

Really nice work ! :goodjob:

Though i don't think Japan is any kind of world power in military aspect now. ;)

Yeah, and Pervez Musarraf is the leader of the greatest enemies of India, Pakistan. I think it would upset some Indian buddies. ;)

This mod is very slow. At P3-500MHz 256RAM i cannt play due to huge lag betwen load game and game start, and between turns :(:(:(

kettyo i know tha japan is not really good in military now, but the scenario is based to be in some years, and today some people there are pushing for re-armament, are you really sure Pervez is the president of Pakistan!!!!! are you really sure? i am not sure, could u tell me the name of the leader of india?
sorry muxec, mmmh......try my "WW2 european front" the map is smaller.

stalin006,

the full name of the prime minister of India is:
Shri Atal Bihari Vajpayee

I think "Vajpayee" is enough for the game. ;)

Check out this site: http://pmindia.nic.in/

thanks kettyo, but b4 i change it, i think i shuld find other things to change cuz people might not like re-downloading it again for a simple name change, what else should i chnage.......

This map is fearfully real and RL like...

what does RL means

I found that the Neutral Nations were a little 2 powerful and they were the meanest lol, And the area where Detroit MI would be is not occupied, as far as I know Detroit is a well known key city to the US military considering its manufacturing capabilities and I believe theres a US Naval training base in MI as well. Theres a new game called SuperPowers that recognizes Detroit as one of the US's key cities.

Overall the game is fun, I didnt experience problems with lag and it was a blast getting my butt kicked by the neutrals and mounting a comeback later on by Nukin the chinese and the arab nations ultimately gaining the neutrals respect.:D

thanks Letsrock, i will do taht change in my next version in the future, i need to look for more things to chnage too.well the neutral nations were powerful maybe cus they were the largest side i bet mexico city was the hardest to take over right? well cuz its size and conection to otehr southamerican cities they were very fortified, as long as they werent too high tech.

I never took them over, its still ongoing. The Neutrals almost conquered me they took New York, destroyed Washington, stole San Antonio, and New Orleans. I negociated peace and built up my military and now Im at 1/2 their power rating, Im rated 2nd most powerful with 5 nations left.

My problem was I didnt take them seriously enough, they were above and below me. I was building wonders and trying to get nuclear capability and then they started pillaging.

well i took the arab nations first, then india, i keept peace w/ everyone else, even some alliances w/ china and US, so i made the US and china fight and lower the neutrals power

Ok, Good job, here are some suggestions

- I would make Turkey part of the European Union, looking at recent events it shows they are eager to join. I would correct some spelling errors in the intro

- I doubt Blair will be in office in 4 years time. Just make some names up for leaders.

- Change habana to havana

- Do not add Amsterdam, but Brussels to the map. Since it does have the NATO headquarters, and make it the capital.

- England, Italy and France have carriers. I couldn't find one.

- Add more cities

- Is it possible to create barbarian units and bases? Otherwise, create a couple in Columbia, Aphganistan and somalië to represent their anarchy.

- Would make Indonesia and Malaisia part of the arab coalition, since they have the largest Muslim community

-Qatar part of the US?

So, in general, a couple of errors, but try to add more cities for each race. That would also add to the difficulty level.

Cheers

thanks, ill work on it for an update sometime later. thanks ^_^

trust me, Turkey isn getting into the European Union any time soon. They are eager to join but EU rejected them many times and are very hestitant to let them join. They just rejected them recently. :)

Thanks Lord Lolig, i wasnt sure since many nations have asked to join the union, well turkey stays w/ the arabs ^_^

well anyone downloaded my scenario lately?

Great work! How did you make the cities - have you downloaded something?

Actualy I've found how in my editor, but I cannot get it to work - the icon is gray. What do you have to enable?

mmmmh..............let me see........ok go to the place where thers a pic of a world, then theres a pic of a thunder or something, click onn it, and a screen will apear, now it will have none highlated, then below is anothe thing saying barbarians, skip it and press on where it says rome, and the gray thing will go away and now is enable, write me back if it worked or need more help :)

Yeh thanks that worked. You can also just press space to select the civ.

a little feedback would be nice.......as i ma making my "october fury" scenario

When shall October Fury be released?:D

Originally posted by Azale
When shall October Fury be released?:D

:crazyeye: In October ? ;)

well i am working on it, i have almost finished all of the euro-allied territorys.

it has been realeased!!!!!!!!!!!!!! go check it out!

This is pretty good, I have always wanted to rule the world as a democratic china whit the USA and Russia.:cool:

Canada is not at all part of the US. As a nation we have a military equal any of the middle European powers, and an economy which outdistances all but eight nations on this planet.

i dont remmeber well.....but didnt i put canada as part of the neutral nations? maybe u are confused w/ teh scenario taht was a changed form the original.

I dont know about the rest man but after looking over your .bic file, the fact that you have put "General Pervez" as India's leader doesnt speak highly about your scenario! who the hell is general pervez anyway?? and if he is who i know he is, what is he doing leading INDIA of all the nations?? Just FYI, General Pervez Musharraf is the leader of Islamic Republic of Pakistan and again FYI, Pakistan and India are NOT the same nation. Don't mean to sound rude, but perhaps you don't follow world Politics!!! Please, as an Indian, i'm appalled at your selection of Leader for India, if you can, change it!!


Shastram

Continuting on my thoughts: it reallyl doesnt make sense to make General Pervez leader of Indian Republic. SO what is the role of Indian Republic anyway.... how come its so small considering the real India is number 7 in terms of land-mass in the whole world and Israel, well Israel is just too small :-)

and your boundary of India is quite skewed.. karachi is taking over a whole province of India! In terms of power, I think one forgets that India has nuclear capabilities in today's world with extremely advance missile capabilities as well. The whole turmoil issue in Kashmir is because of the fact that the little Pakistan and India both have nuclear capabilities... an area that is very volatile and may as well lead to WWIII if push comes to shove! China is very much involved in helping Pakistan and India was involved and still is to a degree with Russia. Putin happens to be a good friend :)

And about leader of India, please once again, REMOVE PERVEZ from your scenario, it really is appalling for me as an Indian to see that (even though its just a game....). If you wanna put someone, I'll give you a good name: "Atal Behari Vajpai" . Current Prime minister of India, good man by some standards, good for India in a lot of different ways. Is somewhat defense oriented and makes India extremely diplomatic in the whole world. Smart guy who is taking good care of the country that hosts the 2nd largest population in the world!

Just a few thoughts about India.

Have fun,

Shastram

Whats up with the three star rating!? It should at least be a 4 to 4 1/2!

Stalin006 - The scenario is excellent. The neutrals are a bit much but I usually just turn them off. The load up time is acceptable, compared to other scenarios which take ten times as long. It appears that your possibly done tweaking the scenario. In the event you would like some additional feed back here is my .02 cents.

Leaders - (I'm not a designer) how hard is it to get a picture of the current leaders and put those in to the game? Russia - Vladimir Putin, USA - George W. Bush, EU - Tony Blair?, China - Hu Jintao, India - Atal Bihari Vajpayee, Pakistan - General Pervez Musharraf, Japan - Junichiro Koizumi, Arab Nations - I don't know who to pick?, Neutrals - Don't like em to powerful. If nothing else I'll email you the pictures of these individuals if you want them.

WW3 - Is most likely to happen (IMHO!) over the US and China, US and North Korea, US/Israel and Arab nations. & Pakistan and India. It would be nice if the scenario would cater to this for example. Make South Korea (Seoul) a USA City. Make North Korea (Pyongyang) with China. Consider making Tawain AKA Formosa. Another hot point in US & China relations. I think I have read somewhere that China believes that war with the USA is impossible to avoid. Do to recent news coverage I don't think it's necessary to talk about th other possible war suggestions.

China - My biggest pet peve by scenario makers. Home of the WORLDS largest armed forces. Home of the WORLDS largest population. Has anybody ever heard of a little forgotten war called Korea? Bottom line, one of the worlds super powers the USA halted by a peasant army at the 38th parralel in KOREA. Keeping in mind that this same army had just fought a civil war in its own land with millions of losses. 3 years of bloody fighting and 60,000 plus US casualties later a cease fire was signed in 1953. Why is taking China always a piece of cake.

I suggest several armies and/or leaders be distributed to China at the beggining of the game. They should have huge populations in their cities. These cities should have great potential for power. They should need alot of "Worker" improvemnts though to simulate them growing in to the world power they will become. Roads should need to be built and they should need to start the game building factories and be behind technology wise. Except in computers as we found out the hard way here in the USA. I would suggest that the poulations be a little angry to simulate the speratist movements like Fulong gong, pro democracy movements etc. I feel that China should have substantial ammounts of "Infantry" and "Tanks" not modern mind you.

USA - Technology wise should already have recyling, synthetic fibers, ecology, and other technologies it seems silly to say that in a few years (I think you said that for the scenario) we still need to research technologies we had 20 - 30 years ago. Is it "ballanced"? Not really but the real world is not ballanced either. Hence the need to sign mutual protection pacts.

Another thing why start out with "regular units" I don't think this should be the case in Russia - Veteran, USA - Veteran, & China - Veteran. The rest maybe.

Anyway, your is one of the few scenarios I'll play did it make it to PTW?

Any chance we can put your tallents to work on a Korean or Vietnam war scenario? How about Desert Storm?

I agree with Shastram you should rectify the Indian leader name asap. That would be like making a WW2 scenario, and playing the US with Hitler as the leader. It's just not remotely accurate.

Great snenario!

Hey stalin, i have a few ' interesting ideas ' for my own ww3 scenario, so im gonna make my own (from the Civ3 supplied World map) since I just am somewhat bored. I plan to make it somewhan similar except for a few middle-sized changes.

1. the CIS (Commonwealth of independent states) I would make into a single nation as the russians have returned to bieng a considerable world power and are ready for an expansion.

2. The communist world is declining and will likely fall, A new nationalist revolution in Hong-Kong and Taiwan has begun by the Taiwanese leaders to retake their former lands they ruled in the 1920's before the commusinst civil war. Thweworld's nations are not interefering with the revolution as the Taiwanese are bieng suppled with secret financial and military aid from the US, and the newly re-built Empire of Japan.

3. After the US involvement in the middle east to disarm Saddam Hussien finished, the Muslim world decided to unify for the first time in centuries behind Saddam Hussien to create a unified
nuclear power to get vengeance on those who ' Police the world. '

4. The Empire of Japan has been allowed to re-arm after a massive wave of commusinst terrorist attacks hit the country years earlier. The US gave them permission along with the UN so that they could defend themselves. Japan Recently annexed the country of Indonesia, and a good chunk out of former French-Indochina. Japan has been continuing an economic boom, especially by the fact of the revolutions.

damn...

eh? am sorry, i havent been here for a while, ive been testing for a new kind of scenarios, ur ideas are great, i like the mid east one, but change the leaders name

I cxould understand that, Saddam isnt excatly liked, Its more of a need to keep the US out of Iraq instead of supporting saddam hussien. Perhaps a leader from a well liked nation like Saudi Arabia?

it doesnt really matter, jsut put in the story that is a great leader who believes in modernization and continued religious dominance, make up a name, he can come up from any nation

indeed, the main flaws with the muslim states is that they either modernize or they stay with religion and get their arse kicked badly like afganistan. what if a leader was religious and could move his people but also modernized? that would be interesting... either way that scenario aint coming anytime soon.

well thats my idea, have u startd on ur scenario?

yeah, I got the USA, EU, CIS, Japan, Both chinese nations and japan's cities done, but not units yet.

This is an Impressive and well-built scenario, but I had a few problems:

- The Russian Federation had far too few cities and I found myself unable to play as them very well since you cant build settlers and I am a diplomat in my games.
- The Neutrals are a bit too powerful, after a while they use the fact that they are spread out to build up and they become an enormous threat. Cutting down their production capabilities would make it a bit more realistic.
- Lastly, there are too few cities on the map, but at least it doesent take very long to load up.

Despite these setbacks, this is quite an interesting scenario to play.

well it was my first scenario, but plz try "october fury, soviet invasion of europe" or the otehr one, ull like it

im back from europe. I let sarevok make the ww3 scenario while i was gone and i think it is almost done, if not done already. :D

It is done, but i ran into a glitch so my M1's look like archers :mad: , but the map itself is quite done.