That city has such an interesting history. By the way, Tarqunius Superbus, King of Rome, was not thrown out by the Romans, he was thrown out by the Etruscans who invaded - and defeated - Rome. That's where the Republic starts. :king:;)

I'll call it as I always heard it - the Romans did.

I'll go with the traditional historical viewpoint on any undecided matter of classical Mediterranean history, which is that the Sea People did it.

I was under the impression that since the various Rasna league leaders like Lars Porsena launched wars to get Tarquin back on the throne, they wouldn't have been the ones to remove him. Besides, since Rome was technically "Etruscan" too, the whole reason that the Clusian and other leagues invaded was to restore Rasna rule in the form of the king. Kicking out their own man doesn't make any sense at all. Where'd you dig up this tidbit?

I call it every now and then, but I don't invite it over or anything.

I currently watch it at 1:00 a.m. on the Canadian version of the History Channel.

What a great name! Tarquinius Superbus! Also, I have no idea what you're talking about.... I'm not proud of my ignorance :(

What a great name! Tarquinius Superbus! Also, I have no idea what you're talking about.... I'm not proud of my ignorance :(
I'm not too sure either, but I know he was a king from back in the days when Rome had a monarchy. And that Shakespeare liked to go on about how he was a jerk who raped some woman, but the people threw him out because of it or something. It sounds like a bit romanticised to me.

I was under the impression that since the various Rasna league leaders like Lars Porsena launched wars to get Tarquin back on the throne, they wouldn't have been the ones to remove him. Besides, since Rome was technically "Etruscan" too, the whole reason that the Clusian and other leagues invaded was to restore Rasna rule in the form of the king. Kicking out their own man doesn't make any sense at all. Where'd you dig up this tidbit?

Indeed, the OP is quite confusing. Lars Porsena (an etruscan, as is made obvious by the Lars prename) supposedely attacked and defeated the romans in an attempt to re-install the also estruscan Tarquin. According to legend, he was convinced of the virtues of the Roman Republic and left, even though he was victorious.

However we should keep in mind that history is not very clear in that period, and the distinction between Roman and Etruscan was hardly clear (though the romans were not exactly considered etruscan, at least not "traditional estruscan").

Anyway, I think the OP should clarify a little more what he means.

However we should keep in mind that history is not very clear in that period, and the distinction between Roman and Etruscan was hardly clear (though the romans were not exactly considered etruscan, at least not "traditional estruscan").
Yeah - I think that the framework for early Rome's Latin League was actually based on the Rasna league-based governments. They might have even just taken over leadership of a preexisting Rasna league.

I'll go with the traditional historical viewpoint on any undecided matter of classical Mediterranean history, which is that the Sea People did it.

That's hilarious.

That's hilarious.

It's also, quite sadly, the preferred method for classical historians.

It's also, quite sadly, the preferred method for classical historians.
You don't mean classical history there, do you? The same classical history that began a few centuries after the Sea Peoples stopped existing? :p

It's also, quite sadly, the preferred method for classical historians.

Well its quite tough to know anything about back then due to the immense lacking of substantial pieces of work. Though, many classical historians if they don't know something do tend to make it up.

edit- such as the Tarquin and Sybill story. Where he apparantly bought books prophesising the future. Unfortunatly the books in which these were housed burnt down during the decline of the republic.